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lG G4 slower than moto x first generation

Hello, i bought the LG G4 2 months ago, and I was really happy, I had the moto X 1 generation for 2 years, yesterday I use it to delete something to pass it to my mom, I noticed the moto x, faster in every single aspect (obviously no camera or heavy games) the normal use of the phone like, take it to check a mail, write notes, calendar, messaging, the launcher is faster in the moto x, changing between app is faster in the moto x, scrolling in chrome is faster in the moto x...
I have stock roms in both phones, same version. 5.1 not root or any kind of mod, no developers options, the animation speed is 1x in both phones...
The point of this post is ask, why if the moto x is an older phone with less specifications it is faster, and how can I make my LG G4 (h815p) faster like my old phone, now this think is making me crazy, why why why... >.<
If there is a problem with my English or you don't understand something ask me, English is not my native language.
Thank for the help.
I don't want to go back to the moto x, but I am really taking it in consideration...

5.1 on G4 has a lollipop memory leak famous bug
in my opinion you must try MM on G4
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Hani88 said:
5.1 on G4 has a lollipop memory leak famous bug
in my opinion you must try MM on G4
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Sadly I can't unlock the bootloader of my model :/ and I can only use stock Roms cuz I pay an insurance for hardware and software for full hardware replacement.

bathcrow said:
Sadly I can't unlock the bootloader of my model :/ and I can only use stock Roms cuz I pay an insurance for hardware and software for full hardware replacement.
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You can use LGUP to upgrade to MM and test if it feels better. Any time you need to go to the repair, you can use it again to downgrade and they will never know what you did.

Carl24 said:
You can use LGUP to upgrade to MM and test if it feels better. Any time you need to go to the repair, you can use it again to downgrade and they will never know what you did.
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yeah exactly @bathcrow
MM is totally stock dude .. And the same rom will be available for all devices via ota and lg bridge..
LGup does not require unlocked bootloader neither root
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bathcrow said:
Hello, i bought the LG G4 2 months ago, and I was really happy, I had the moto X 1 generation for 2 years, yesterday I use it to delete something to pass it to my mom, I noticed the moto x, faster in every single aspect (obviously no camera or heavy games) the normal use of the phone like, take it to check a mail, write notes, calendar, messaging, the launcher is faster in the moto x, changing between app is faster in the moto x, scrolling in chrome is faster in the moto x...
I have stock roms in both phones, same version. 5.1 not root or any kind of mod, no developers options, the animation speed is 1x in both phones...
The point of this post is ask, why if the moto x is an older phone with less specifications it is faster, and how can I make my LG G4 (h815p) faster like my old phone, now this think is making me crazy, why why why... >.<
If there is a problem with my English or you don't understand something ask me, English is not my native language.
Thank for the help.
I don't want to go back to the moto x, but I am really taking it in consideration...
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troll,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

kabirjedi said:
troll,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Please tell me why i am a troll?

Carl24 said:
You can use LGUP to upgrade to MM and test if it feels better. Any time you need to go to the repair, you can use it again to downgrade and they will never know what you did.
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i will try with lgup i didnt know that this tool didnt need to have bootloeader unlocked.

to make sure this thread works for something, after using LGUP and installing Marshmallow on my lg g4 and using it for a whole day i can say that the phone is faster than before it was a really smooth boost, swithing beteewn apps is faster, its just a tap and is open, no more lag scrolling in chrome, everything is better, the only thing i noticed maybe cuz the heavy use is that the phone was hotter than before, i will check this tomorrow.

I had a moto x 2nd gen before I got my g4. The g4 is slower in almost every aspect. I even did a side by side comparison when I first got the G4. The processor that was in the moto x 2014 seems to be superior to the 808 in the G4. Just look at Andantechs reviews of the 808 and 810. They seem to think that they are problematic and that the previous generation 805 runs much better without heat, throttling or gpu issues. It also doesn't help that the g4 has a very heavy skin on top of Android. I may go to the moto Nexus 6 myself, not sure looking at alternatives to the g4 myself.
I am sure that rooting and changing the governor may help too, but I think LGs software couple with a junky processor make this g4 slow at times.
See the following link, scroll to the bottom where it compares the frequencies of phones where the paragraph starts "Looking at the frequency..". It will give you a breakdown on how the 808 works terribly in g4, flex and nexus 5x.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9820/the-google-nexus-6p-review/4

Want to get the G3 - few questions...

Hello all G3 users [emoji4] I'm currently using a HTC One M7 running on CM12.1 & love it (mainly because of the stereo speakers), but I want to get a new phone because this one is getting old & boring for me... I'm debating between choosing the G3 & Galaxy Note 3... The biggest thing is that I don't really like screens larger than 5" but in today's standards getting a good ~5" phone, that has good developer support is getting harder & harder to do... So as I said, I'm torn between the Note 3 & G3 (my mum has a G3s, which I like). One of the reasons to get the G3 over Note 3, is that the G3 is newer than his opponent, so I could have it even longer with good ROM support from xda, which is the biggest thing for me while choosing a phone [emoji4] I've seen that there are 2 versions of the G3 with 2GB RAM/16GB ROM & 3GB RAM/32GB ROM, so I have a question to that... Is there any other big difference between them, that would make me consider choosing the 3/32 version over the 2/16 (except the storage space ofc. (will use a sdcard anyways)) Or is it the same phone with just a bit different stuff in hardware? Also, do both of them have the same model number (D855 I assume)? I have read on here, that some people have problems that have to do with LTE... Can someone explain me that? (Just need a basic explanation, not a in depth guide). Thanks for your time, by reading all of this [emoji1]

M G3 Cat.6 user

Stachura5 said:
Hello all G3 users [emoji4] I'm currently using a HTC One M7 running on CM12.1 & love it (mainly because of the stereo speakers), but I want to get a new phone because this one is getting old & boring for me... I'm debating between choosing the G3 & Galaxy Note 3... The biggest thing is that I don't really like screens larger than 5" but in today's standards getting a good ~5" phone, that has good developer support is getting harder & harder to do... So as I said, I'm torn between the Note 3 & G3 (my mum has a G3s, which I like). One of the reasons to get the G3 over Note 3, is that the G3 is newer than his opponent, so I could have it even longer with good ROM support from xda, which is the biggest thing for me while choosing a phone [emoji4] I've seen that there are 2 versions of the G3 with 2GB RAM/16GB ROM & 3GB RAM/32GB ROM, so I have a question to that... Is there any other big difference between them, that would make me consider choosing the 3/32 version over the 2/16 (except the storage space ofc. (will use a sdcard anyways)) Or is it the same phone with just a bit different stuff in hardware? Also, do both of them have the same model number (D855 I assume)? I have read on here, that some people have problems that have to do with LTE... Can someone explain me that? (Just need a basic explanation, not a in depth guide). Thanks for your time, by reading all of this [emoji1]
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Firstly, You Should Buy 32/3Gb Variant Because 2K Screen With 2Gb Ram İs Too Low (You Probably Have 800-500mb Free Ram On 2Gb, İ Dont Know İ Have 32/3 Gb One ) İ Dont Have İssues With 4G/LTE, Because No 4G/LTE İn Turkey (4.5G/LTE-A coming in April ) there is not hardware changes between 32/3 And 16/2, Just Ram İs Lower, Both İs D855 (if europan one)
Basiccaly Some G3 Variants:
->D855 Europan One
->D852 Canadian One
->D851 T-Mobile One
->D850 At&t One
->VS985 Verzion One
->LS990 Spirint One
->US990 Us One Or Anything Like This
->F400S,K,T Korean One
->F460S,K,T Korean LTE-A One (Snap 805)
->D856 Dual LTE One
->D857 Dual Sim Korean One
->D858HK Dual Sim Chinese One

Okay, thanks for clearing up the versions of it. The biggest problem for me, in getting the G3 in Poland is that I find only 2/16 versions... Hard to find the 3/32 even if it's used, which angers me a bit... Would need to search more or wait longer & see if someone puts it up on sale [emoji52]

I suggest U to take a G3. I have used Note 3 and now using G3 Cat.6 F460s. It is on Marshmallow officially.
Battery timing is same or better than note 3. But in idol mode note 3 is better.
Note 3 heats up more than g3 while player a haevy game or videos
User interface is tooooooooo much freindly customizable in G3. While U always have knox warranty issues by destroying samsung devices(Note 3 and later only) by loosing baseband and sim card signal forever when U go to customize android system in note 3.
Quick circle case is always a gr8 option to be used it keep ur device safe, beautiful in fashion, more useful even the case is closed.
Camera result is more clear than note 3 in day or light areas but in low light note 3 is lil bit fine.
Note 3 have s pen option but U can gain that option by purchasing a universal stylus at 1 or 2 US$.
Choice is urz... I wanted to explain things being nutral.
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One of my friends have note 3. He was trying to update his devide manually but being noob he flashed official lollipop not considering baseband and his device got knox 0x1 so now his device is unrecoverable and he is using it without having any sim card signal. Tried every Jtag and box every software repairing lab is visited but not useful. Cell was out of warranty to be sent back to samsung service centre
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I could send U My G3 Cat.6 but Poland is too much far from Pakistan.... being a human I wanted to help U... U should purchase through Amazon dear friend...

khurramshahzad3003 said:
Note 3 heats up more than g3 while player a haevy game or videos
While U always have knox warranty issues by destroying samsung devices(Note 3 and later only) by loosing baseband and sim card signal forever when U go to customize android system in note 3.
Quick circle case is always a gr8 option to be used it keep ur device safe, beautiful in fashion, more useful even the case is closed.
Camera result is more clear than note 3 in day or light areas but in low light note 3 is lil bit fine.
Note 3 have s pen option but U can gain that option by purchasing a universal stylus at 1 or 2 US$.
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Hmm... I always thought that the G3 heats up more because, because of the rushed 2k screen... Well, I think I was wrong then [emoji52]
Don't really care about KNOX, gonna trip it anyways by installing custom ROMs...
The Quick circle case isn't really a big deal for me. I currently have a flipcover case on my HTC, which can act as a stand for it, which I like very much [emoji1] So I would like to have the same one for the LG
I don't really care about camera, I don't use it 99% of the time, so yeah...
Well, the S-Pen has far more features than a standard pen that can only be used as a finger replacement...

Yup U are right choice is urz... But my suggestion is that. U should not trip knox... After 0x1 no custom Rom brings back signals. I have tried all possible tricks on internet and even sent to software repairing labs... They could do anything even with custom Roms

khurramshahzad3003 said:
[/COLOR]I could send U My G3 Cat.6 but Poland is too much far from Pakistan.... being a human I wanted to help U... U should purchase through Amazon dear friend...
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Haha, would rather get it myself but thanks for the effort. Also, we have 2 popular sites in Poland where there are many electronic devices like phone etc so I search both of them. Currently I'm on the hunt for the G3 & Note 3 (16GB variant in this one) so if the G3 idea fails, I gonna go for the Note 3 then...

OfCourse Choice is urz bro

khurramshahzad3003 said:
OfCourse Choice is urz bro
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Hah, yeah I know about that... Sadly I want to have them both but my budget is what I gonna get for my HTC by selling it (maybe 25€ more), so yeah... Gonna have to think hard through this... But thanks for all the info [emoji1]

U should by a G4 I think so. Or Note 5 will be a much gr8 choice.

khurramshahzad3003 said:
U should by a G4 I think so. Or Note 5 will be a much gr8 choice.
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Yeah, would like to, but my budget is very limited & I don't work so money is a big problem for me... So the best option for the money is to get a G3/Note 3 [emoji52]

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto Z2 Play, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto Z2 Play is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Superb

I love my wife and kids, but I really do like this phone!
It's slim, light, quick and battery life is MUCH better than any smartphone I've had. With the same daily use and charging in nav dock, while driving, I have from 60-100% at the end of the day. Other phones, my last DD was a Moto X Pure Edition 2015, would have 30% in the evening or sometimes need a charge for evening use.
Some nights, I don't even put it on the charger as it has above 90%, because I just got back from a drive. Between 2000 and 0500, the Z2 Play drops only 4%, sitting on my dresser.

like Pizza_Pablo above. I too upgraded from a Moto X² Pure. I am loving this phone. outstanding battery performance. perhaps because I'm almost always connected to wifi.
and the Moto Mods! particularly the super slim Turbopower Mod, something I hardly ever use but love having all the same.
i don't drive, so I'm on commuter trains a lot, in the past I would have to find a seat with a power outlet, making sure I'm topped off for the day just to read the news. Now, I don't look for outlets, and instead of news I'm playing a graphic intense game.
it's such a relief to be able to ignore the battery gage, with a nice looking phone.

Nice phone, if only it had 64 bit stock ROM...

ROM Stock
Just wanted to understand why the motorola put the system to 32 bits in the z2 play. I'm looking for a more stable ROM in the 64bit version to install on my device.

DinhoF said:
Just wanted to understand why the motorola put the system to 32 bits in the z2 play. I'm looking for a more stable ROM in the 64bit version to install on my device.
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Try a gsi rom 64bit for albus. It's very very stable right now.
i'm using Crdroid (gsi)

DinhoF said:
Just wanted to understand why the motorola put the system to 32 bits in the z2 play. I'm looking for a more stable ROM in the 64bit version to install on my device.
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You're going to be so disappointed when you find out 64bit won't make you coffee in the morning.

Average at best if you come from the original Moto Z Play. That one had ****ty software updates too, but at least it had 2 days battery life without having to worry. On Moto Z2 Play it's 1.5 days if you rarely use it.
@kewlzter I wouldn't be surprised if 32 bit is part of the reason for the incredible slow updates. Google already made it quite clear that 64 bit is the future and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same for drivers

The phone has a beautiful feel to it, but the updates and development is disappointing

Bootloader
Does anyone know how to remove the unlocked bootloader message motorola Z2 PLAY?

DinhoF said:
Does anyone know how to remove the unlocked bootloader message motorola Z2 PLAY?
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You can't remove it, you can just overlay it with a logo. There is a guide in themes and apps

Why don't have many developers for Z2 Play?

Where is AOSP Extended? RR? Viper OS?

Bunch of reasons, though the primary one that I would guess is the phone is bootloader locked for Verizon. I'm not sure how wide spread this phone is on other networks at this point that are unlockable, but the most are probably
on verizon. I stopped using the nexus line when it stopped. Moto phones are close to stock and with the projector mod, a cheap entry price deal from verizon, I took a risk and went with this phone. My most durable nexus phone was the 6, which was made by motorola. I'm loving the quality of the phone and the battery life. I even picked up a dirt cheap moto z play on craigslist and love it just as much and its even better battery.
If you really care about custom roms, you gotta do some research and follow the developers, not necessarily the other way around. I'm not sure what I am going to do in a year for my next phone, but I do liked trying out the other vendors.

I feel, there have not been many buyers of the Z2 Play, hence the community support for this smartphone is quite low.
Before the Z2 play i used to own a Galaxy S4 mini, which has great support till date, and threads for different Custom Android versions of Viper, XenonHD, RR,AOKP, AICP, are still active.
There are a lot more Custom Android versions for the s4 mini but they have got inactive only some months ago.
Even now development for Android O version for the S4 mini is going on.
The main reason according to me is, s4 mini got a lot of buyers, and the small form factor plus the removable battery made a lot of its users stick to it , and luckily a lot of them seem to have been Android developers .

Is that because phone is relative new?
I hope soon this changes!

So I guess I will keep using my rooted Droid Turbo.

I guess I wrongly assumed that since the bootloader could be unlocked, there would be developement.
Don't get me wrond. I totally appreciate what has been accomplished!
I am grateful for root and TWRP!
I find it hard to believe that Motorola/Lenovo has not posted the stock firmware for this device.
I really like having a rooted phone, mostly for the ability ot install dark themes. I really hate white backgrounds and status bar icons.
I prefer Motorola phones. I wonder what my next phone will be...
I will surely wait until stock firmware is actually available, prior to purchase.

A few days ago they (Lenovo) released the kernel source code for Oreo so that might help some devs to start developing for our device if they want.

We're not gonna see a lot of developer support for the device for one reason: not a lot of people have a z2 Play. At least, not enough for devs to actually care about supporting our device which not enough people are using it to garner enough interest.
It also helps that the z2 Play was a push in the wrong direction towards battery life and thus, most potential buyers, most of which are going to be Moto Z Play owners, are gonna stick with their current phones.

Moto G5 (XT1676) in 2020

Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.

crocodilehun said:
Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.
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If you buy an 3GB RAM model, I think you're OK.

crocodilehun said:
Hello everybody.
I'm looking to buy this phone (new) as a daily driver. I know its kinda old, so I would like to ask is it still worth it to buy this phone? I don't use much apps and use my phone for texting, browsing, reddit, calls etc...
I see that there are a lot of roms for this phone, so i would like to ask are they reliable and up-to-date? Or have they been abandoned? I would like to buy a phone and be set with it for next 5+ years.
I would like to buy a phone with removable battery so my other option is Samsung xcover 4s.
Thanks in advance.
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Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
If you can get your hands on one look at the Moto g7 play on ebay
It's updatable to stock android 10 and probably just as cheap as this device second hand or refurbished

TheFixItMan said:
Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
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If I may ask. Does this bug affect 3rd party cameras?

R1ffR4ff said:
If I may ask. Does this bug affect 3rd party cameras?
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Effects any camera app
May have slight green tint in photos
May only be be able to take a certain amount of photos before phone/app needs restarting
Video recording may not work in some apps or may not save file correctly
QR code scanning may not work correctly
The above list is a rough bug list and may vary on a device by device basis & rom version & apps being used

TheFixItMan said:
Effects any camera app
May have slight green tint in photos
May only be be able to take a certain amount of photos before phone/app needs restarting
Video recording may not work in some apps or may not save file correctly
QR code scanning may not work correctly
The above list is a rough bug list and may vary on a device by device basis & rom version & apps being used
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Thank you for the excellent reply. I'm quite happy at the moment with the Stock Oreo on my G5 which I recently got A-grade refurbished at a decent price as my old Moto G3 is getting a bit tatty. It seems that my old G3 is better supported at the moment as I'm running 3 different Android 10 Custom roms all working good(Floko/crDroid/Havoc).
It's a shame that crDroid seem to only cover the G5 Potter and Sanders
https://crdroid.net/dl.php

TheFixItMan said:
Custom 64bit roms for this device currently have a bug with the camera
If you can get your hands on one look at the Moto g7 play on ebay
It's updatable to stock android 10 and probably just as cheap as this device second hand or refurbished
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nift4 said:
If you buy an 3GB RAM model, I think you're OK.
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Thank you guys. Moto G7 is a bit too large for me as i would like something below 5.5. All the other phones that i've looked at are upgradeable to Oreo or Pie at best. Xcover 4s is upgreadable to Android 10, so i think ill go with that one. And all of the custom roms for other smartphones i've looked at, like LG G3 or G5 seem to have some bugs, or they are not up to date. I don't know is there a point in installing something like LineageOS 14, if that rom is out dated and has security holes in it.

crocodilehun said:
Thank you guys. Moto G7 is a bit too large for me as i would like something below 5.5. All the other phones that i've looked at are upgradeable to Oreo or Pie at best. Xcover 4s is upgreadable to Android 10, so i think ill go with that one. And all of the custom roms for other smartphones i've looked at, like LG G3 or G5 seem to have some bugs, or they are not up to date. I don't know is there a point in installing something like LineageOS 14, if that rom is out dated and has security holes in it.
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Moto g7 play screen is 5.7 Inch but probably worth the extra screen size compared with other options
LineageOS 14.1 for this device (along with stock rom) is only 32bit so you are limited to only arm-eabi armv7 apps as apposed to later devices which are armv8 and support arm64 (64 bit) out the box

TheFixItMan said:
Moto g7 play screen is 5.7 Inch but probably worth the extra screen size compared with other options
LineageOS 14.1 for this device (along with stock rom) is only 32bit so you are limited to only arm-eabi armv7 apps as apposed to later devices which are armv8 and support arm64 (64 bit) out the box
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I've done some research and G7 for European market does not have removable battery, and there aren't any i can buy locally. I would like to buy locally because the shipping adds to the price. What about LG G5, would you recomend it if i put some stable and official rom on it?
Thanks in advance.

crocodilehun said:
I've done some research and G7 for European market does not have removable battery, and there aren't any i can buy locally. I would like to buy locally because the shipping adds to the price. What about LG G5, would you recomend it if i put some stable and official rom on it?
Thanks in advance.
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Never used it so can't comment - have a read of reviews etc