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So after doing a lot of reading, I learned a few things.
1) Titanium back up and root doesn't seem to work (at least on Oreo) and installed Magisk
2) You really can't debloat device, without jumping through all kinds of hoops.
Question has anyone one with Sprint successfully installed any of the many roms? and which have you installed? with no issues ie: still have service etc... I want more than anything a rom that works, and is debloated of all the OEM junk, and be able to install mods of my own. Thanks.

doubledragon5 said:
So after doing a lot of reading, I learned a few things.
1) Titanium back up and root doesn't seem to work (at least on Oreo) and installed Magisk
2) You really can't debloat device, without jumping through all kinds of hoops.
Question has anyone one with Sprint successfully installed any of the many roms? and which have you installed? with no issues ie: still have service etc... I want more than anything a rom that works, and is debloated of all the OEM junk, and be able to install mods of my own. Thanks.
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I have been off of stock since Feb and haven't looked back. Almost everything works. Only service that isn't working is volte and WiFi calling.

Uzephi said:
I have been off of stock since Feb and haven't looked back. Almost everything works. Only service that isn't working is volte and WiFi calling.
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I don't mind stock so much I managed to get rid of a lot of the bloatware figured that out from another thread.I got a custom kernel in here only thing I can't seem to do is get Xposed installed.

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Wanting to remove root

Hi there
have had my P8000 for a day now and just installed my barclays banking app which i often use only to see that the phone is rooted
I'm not really bothered about having root access if i'm honest just would like my banking app to work. Does anyone know how to remove root access from this phone this is how it was shipped to me from Geekbuying
Right it would appear that my phone is not rooted using various tools to check but the barclays banking app still says it is
it might just be that the Barclays app doesn't like your Chinese hardware/software but if you really want you can try to reflash the stock rom which is now available from elephone. there are two versions, 20150719 & 20150725 I believe from here:-
http://bbs.elephone.hk/thread-6343-1-1.html#.VczX6xHbKbg
just d/l the original one then you can always update via the phone if you want the newer firmware...
Did you ever solve this? I bought the phone as it has dual Sims and I didn't want to carry around 2 phones! Without being able to use the Barclays app, I'm having to carry my old phone anyway. Any help would be appreciated
Sent from my Elephone P8000 using Tapatalk
Any idea of auxus prime p8000 how to root & flash the custom recovery...?
I've been having the same issue and here's my findings.
If you try stock rom (whatever version), Barclays apps will never work despite Root Checker says it's not rooted.
However, in another thread, I was pointed to an app called Simply Unroot and I tried it and initially it did not work.
The dev of Simply Unroot spent hours trying to figure out why Barclays app thought it was rooted but eventually, he suggested I try the FlyMe ROM.
So I put on Philz recovery, put on FlyMe, I used Simply Unroot to unroot it (since it's full-on rooted initially) and WHAM, after a reboot, the Barclays apps work fine.
I don't have enough knowledge to say why FlyMe/Philz is ok.
I don't know if it's the ROM/Recovery combo that fixes it.
I did try stock and Eragon with Philz and the Barclays apps don't work on there.
Either way, Simply Unroot app/service is fantastic.
It's a shame it's the FlyMe ROM that works since it's not very good.
Does anyone know WHY Stock ROM is seen as Rooted by Barclays whereas FlyMe is not?
I'd much rather use Stock ROM since it has the fingerprint scanner (and English UK setting....)
Stock ROM is 'pre-rooted', at least the last two or three versions have been. They just require SuperSU to get app control - hence a few posts saying they rooted the phone by simply installing SuperSu (which it doesn't).
So it would seem that FlyMe whilst based on stock ROM doesn't have this - a good option to have. Perhaps some of it is based on the earlier 'un-rooted' stock ROMs?
kevvyboy said:
Stock ROM is 'pre-rooted', at least the last two or three versions have been. They just require SuperSU to get app control - hence a few posts saying they rooted the phone by simply installing SuperSu (which it doesn't).
So it would seem that FlyMe whilst based on stock ROM doesn't have this - a good option to have. Perhaps some of it is based on the earlier 'un-rooted' stock ROMs?
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The FlyMe ROM is based on the ROM for another phone altogether... er.. Meizu was it? That's why it doesn't have any ability to use the fingerprint scanner.
It's just really annoying though... banking apps aren't the only apps that have this kind of over-zealous check... there are other enterprise apps that have it.
I don't understand why the stock ROM can't be made so it is 'fully' unrooted yet have it easy to root later on.
£130 for a phone that is super fast and does everything flagships can do but I can't use it/recommend it since it can't run apps that most people consider necessary.
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[Q] From rooted Kitkat to Lollipop

Hi!
My Z1C is rooted, has dualrecovery and is running a stock 4.4.2 (14.3.a.0.757)
I also have a lot of customizations via XPosed.
What would be the easiest way to upgrade to a Lollipop version? Someone suggested I can just upgrade and use towelroot afterwards to regain root, but I could not find any verification of that.
Is it safer to flash a pre-rooted zip and if so can anyone point to a decent source?
Also, will XPosed Framework still be functional on Lollipop? I hear there are so many headachy changes to the security layout that I am not sure of that, but right now I'Äd feel safer with a version that has Stagefright fixed...
Let me know what you think!
Thanks
Walter_White said:
Hi!
My Z1C is rooted, has dualrecovery and is running a stock 4.4.2 (14.3.a.0.757)
I also have a lot of customizations via XPosed.
What would be the easiest way to upgrade to a Lollipop version? Someone suggested I can just upgrade and use towelroot afterwards to regain root, but I could not find any verification of that.
Is it safer to flash a pre-rooted zip and if so can anyone point to a decent source?
Also, will XPosed Framework still be functional on Lollipop? I hear there are so many headachy changes to the security layout that I am not sure of that, but right now I'Äd feel safer with a version that has Stagefright fixed...
Let me know what you think!
Thanks
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AFAIK, there is currently no 'one click' root for 5.1. There is a thread about a Kingroot-to-Supersu method that I can verify works for 5.0.2. You can root 5.1, but either by fastboot, (requiring unlocked bl), or downgrade method, (which you're already on step 1 with KK). There seems to be varied reports about PRFs, but I'm sure you can find a good one by now. I think the main question is if you're hoping to save app data, Xposed settings, etc., to restore afterwards. If so, I would say it's very iffy. You could try Titanium or something, but I wouldn't be surprised if you get some glitches.
As far as Xposed, it works great on 5.0 or 5.1, and there's new developments coming steadily.
Search Z1c 'general', and 'android development' forums for downloads, etc.
Forgot to mention, BL is unlocked with dualrecovery.
Thanks for your advice so far. Root procedure for 5.1 with unlocked BL is already outlined in a thread here?
And yeah, I agree, trying to save app data / settings is bordering on impossible now, I fear TiBackup has outlived its usefulness when it comes to ROM migration. Spent half of today getting my Z1C apps to Z5C and still not nearly half done.
Damn gremlins.
Walter_White said:
Forgot to mention, BL is unlocked with dualrecovery.
Thanks for your advice so far. Root procedure for 5.1 with unlocked BL is already outlined in a thread here?
And yeah, I agree, trying to save app data / settings is bordering on impossible now, I fear TiBackup has outlived its usefulness when it comes to ROM migration. Spent half of today getting my Z1C apps to Z5C and still not nearly half done.
Damn gremlins.
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To root with unlocked bl, flash stock ROM w/ Flashtool, then flash this with fastboot -http://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/general/ub-root-init-d-support-recovery-busybox-t3202799 - done. Then you can install Xposed, custom kernel, etc..
Thanks!
Will try this as soon as I managed to migrate my stuff fully to my new Z5C. Migration without TiBackup is a real PITA
Just making sure, when using your route "flash any stock and then follow up with the mentioned file" it means I can jump straigfht from 4.4.2 into the 5 era? Or Do I have to go to 5 for some compatibility reasons. I recall there was something like this sometime back when there was a major new version.
As far my planned procedure for tmw is:
TWRP backup
CWM backup
TiBackup
copying required stuff to the computer
then flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...al/stock-14-6-0-368-ce1-dualrecovery-t3216740 as this seems to be the most recent version including updates of the recoveries, pre-rooting already combined. This saves me the step from bone stock to pre-rooted stock as I would have to make in your suggestion.
Also, I want to as well try to use the DRM Feature Fix Mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672), so I will flash the LP version of that one afterwards.
This should work, or am I missing anything significant? I can very well toss the data, the Z5C is now my main phone,, the Z1C has been given a 2nd life with a new backplate and battery I just put in so I'd hate to brick it.
Please confirm that I have a general idea of what I am doing lol... Using flashtool etc. is known to me but selecting the right ROMs remains a mystery unless you follow XDA daily...
Much appreciated
Walter_White said:
Just making sure, when using your route "flash any stock and then follow up with the mentioned file" it means I can jump straigfht from 4.4.2 into the 5 era? Or Do I have to go to 5 for some compatibility reasons. I recall there was something like this sometime back when there was a major new version.
As far my planned procedure for tmw is:
TWRP backup
CWM backup
TiBackup
copying required stuff to the computer
then flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...al/stock-14-6-0-368-ce1-dualrecovery-t3216740 as this seems to be the most recent version including updates of the recoveries, pre-rooting already combined. This saves me the step from bone stock to pre-rooted stock as I would have to make in your suggestion.
Also, I want to as well try to use the DRM Feature Fix Mod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672), so I will flash the LP version of that one afterwards.
This should work, or am I missing anything significant? I can very well toss the data, the Z5C is now my main phone,, the Z1C has been given a 2nd life with a new backplate and battery I just put in so I'd hate to brick it.
Please confirm that I have a general idea of what I am doing lol... Using flashtool etc. is known to me but selecting the right ROMs remains a mystery unless you follow XDA daily...
Much appreciated
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Sorry, not sure if you were responding to me... As far as backing up and restoring data, I can't say for sure what's best, going from kk to lp. If you're going from stock to stock, probably built-in Google backup would do the trick. 3rd party stuff is chancy when switching versions in my experience, but Titanium might do OK. I don't think you can backup any kk data in recovery, then restore it on lp. Maybe someone else can tell you otherwise. As far as root in on lp, with unlocked bl, all you need is to flash stock ROM in flash mode with Flashtool, then flash the IMG I linked. - done.

Unlock, Root, Xposed and then relock

Hi, my Mix2 arrived few days ago and I find MiUI quite nice, yet lacking few things. Those are easily available via xposed, hence I need to root. I'm also not so lucky in these matters so before I start to tinker with it I'd like to learn few things.
What are least dangerous ways to unlock and root phone? (heard sth about magisk, its quite new for me, haven't been rooting phones for couple years now) Is it good?
Suppose I succeed unlocking, rooting and flashing xposed, can I relock bootloader? I want that because ie AndroidPay needs that to work, and I haven't found any working rootcloack or similar (at least on Note2)
How reliable is 'the most official tool' for xiaomi flashing (from eu.xiaomi.com ?)? I mean can it bring back the dead or revert phone back to where I started, without any trace of tinkering?
As a new xiaomi owner are there any critical things I need to know?
Thanks!
If you flash magisk, which is the best thing ever btw, you won't have to relock bootloader to get Android pay working.
yeyeoke said:
If you flash magisk, which is the best thing ever btw, you won't have to relock bootloader to get Android pay working.
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Thanks, I read about that and intend to use it. Though, there might be some issues with magisk and different versions. What features does it have?
So far, need to wait 3 days to unlock bootloader.
Mighty_Ahti said:
Thanks, I read about that and intend to use it. Though, there might be some issues with magisk and different versions.
So far, need to wait 3 days to unlock bootloader.
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I've been using magisk on my Note 3 Pro since release and I've never had an issue. Yes, I got my mix 2 today and I'm also waiting for 3 days..
Mighty_Ahti said:
Hi, my Mix2 arrived few days ago and I find MiUI quite nice, yet lacking few things. Those are easily available via xposed, hence I need to root. I'm also not so lucky in these matters so before I start to tinker with it I'd like to learn few things.
What are least dangerous ways to unlock and root phone? (heard sth about magisk, its quite new for me, haven't been rooting phones for couple years now) Is it good?
Suppose I succeed unlocking, rooting and flashing xposed, can I relock bootloader? I want that because ie AndroidPay needs that to work, and I haven't found any working rootcloack or similar (at least on Note2)
How reliable is 'the most official tool' for xiaomi flashing (from eu.xiaomi.com ?)? I mean can it bring back the dead or revert phone back to where I started, without any trace of tinkering?
As a new xiaomi owner are there any critical things I need to know?
Thanks!
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It's generally considered to be dangerous to relock a bootloader with anything other than perfectly stock/factory firmware installed. It may be ok to do this technically but it sort of "ties your hands" in some ways after making an unofficial modification and makes it a bit harder to recover from a botched situation.
You can have an unlocked bootloader and still use Android Pay. This can be achieved either with a ROM that is built to accomplish this (Epic ROM is an example of this) or by using Magisk, which allows root without any sort of SafetyNet trip in many cases. I don't believe there's *any* way to install Xposed and also use Android Pay or any other SafetyNet apps...the best alternative if you really want Xposed is to use Magisk and then install the Xposed Magisk module...you still can't pass SafetyNet with this setup but Magisk allows you to disable Xposed if you're willing to uncheck it in the Magisk Manager app and reboot the phone, after which time SafetyNet should pass ok...at least with this setup you'll be able to kind of have your cake and eat it too, though it's not ideal as you'll have to reboot if you want to change the status of Xposed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
Thank you for detailed answer. I didn't know that.
flyer_andy said:
the best alternative if you really want Xposed is to use Magisk and then install the Xposed Magisk module...you still can't pass SafetyNet with this setup but Magisk allows you to disable Xposed
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I tried AndroidPay few times past few days and it didn't work at all. Perhaps terminals were not compatibile. So lets say I gave up on AndroidPay - can I use regular Xposed along with Magisk? Or does it have to be that module?
Mighty_Ahti said:
Thank you for detailed answer. I didn't know that.
I tried AndroidPay few times past few days and it didn't work at all. Perhaps terminals were not compatibile. So lets say I gave up on AndroidPay - can I use regular Xposed along with Magisk? Or does it have to be that module?
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Oh! I think I may be able to help you with the Android Pay issue - my phone didn't work right with Android Pay until I made sure *all* Google apps' permissions were allowed via the Apps menu in Settings (along with "Autostart" via the security app)...and also toggled the NFC setting where it lets you select between "embedded secure element" and "HCE Wallet." It probably is on "HCE Wallet" but try toggling to "embedded secure element" and then back to "HCE Wallet" a couple of times. My Mix 2 would not make a terminal connection until I did this...it would just say "card read error." Seems like a firmware bug. Let me know if that helps!
But yeah if you don't want to use Android Pay then normal Xposed should be fine...you wouldn't need Magisk I don't think. Though, I'm not sure but I think the Magisk Xposed module probably functions the same as normal Xposed so I'm not sure there's an advantage in doing so. But of course it's all about personal preference!
Whoah, I'm still new to xiaomi/android7+ policies, where each app's permissions are reduced to bare minimum (messenger not being able to show notifications for example). I will definitely try this tomorrow.
So far I just managed to unlock BL, flash recovery and install magisk. SafetyNet checks ok. Will try xposed tomorrow after some payments ;D Thanks!
HCE wallet worked for me (I had it set to SIM wallet).
If I understand correctly here is the possible solution to xposed+magisk+androidPay.
I'd need phh's su binaries for that and keep crossing fingers for it to work on 7.1
I need to learn more about that stuff before I break something
So as I was expecting I experience troubles in installing Xposed.
I followed official way as in here And got bootloop.
I removed magisk stuff in recovery and fixed bootloop, then installed v89.0 (not .1) and also bootloop.
Im using SDK25, and miui 9 - 7.1.1 so it should be ok I think
Mighty_Ahti said:
So as I was expecting I experience troubles in installing Xposed.
I followed official way as in here And got bootloop.
I removed magisk stuff in recovery and fixed bootloop, then installed v89.0 (not .1) and also bootloop.
Im using SDK25, and miui 9 - 7.1.1 so it should be ok I think
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Disable hooks from the xposed apps settings before flashing xposed
What hooks? I dont have any modules yet
Mighty_Ahti said:
What hooks? I dont have any modules yet
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It's a toggle in the settings under experimental, disable resource hooks
Boot took longer but it works. Thanks! Do I have to keep it on all the time ?
Mighty_Ahti said:
Boot took longer but it works. Thanks! Do I have to keep it on all the time ?
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Yeah, phone won't boot with it on. Don't think it makes much difference anyway
Hi @Mighty_Ahti, how much time was "longer"? it's been loading for over 5 minutes already. Thanks
Certainly below 5 minutes.

Can someone explain magisk and its relation to the m9 and android in general?

I know there is plenty of info out there. I have read about it and watched some videos.
I wanted to hear what magisk is and what people think of it from the m9 users and modders out there. I imagine it will work slightly different on most phones. especially when were modding them.
I recently updated my phone to android 7. Im using leedroid.
I noticed all the new roms use magisk and systemless root to pass androids new safety checks so i figured id try it out.
Which involved updating my firmware so i cant go back.
What im noticing is most of the things i actually used root for are not working anymore. mostly the adblockers.
When i download the magisk modules they either dont show up or just do not do anything (unified hosts).
Im not sure if this is just my phone or if we are just not caught up with the new work arounds for android.
Can we still use supersu and have all the old mods like xposed working? or are we stuck with this half a root thing?
Just some questions. But mainly just want to start a discussion about it.
Although I've never used magisk I understand it to be another supersu.
I found rooting phones is a waste of time and effort. I was like you and rooted for adblocking but then I found adguard which made root useless for me. I unrooted and updated to 7.0 and have never looked back.
People will argue that root is for custom roms etc but what they don't seem to realise is stock roms are always best, fastest and most reliable. Custom roms use improvised methods to get the hardware working.
The only reason left to root is to cheat games and that makes the games boring after 5 minutes so what's the point anymore..

ROM options?

S8+ Verizon
Android 7.0
G955USQU1AQGL
4.4.16
Looking into what my options are for roms, as I can't call iPhones until I update my phone but I'm not really interested in getting an update that might make my phone unable to be worked with in the future.
I also need to know if Safestrap can read my 64gb storage & I'm curious about any known bugs in the roms / downsides etc that I'm missing
So far I'm aware of the:
-Oreo non rooted xposed (safetynet fails with xposed activated, "DO NOT USE ENCRYPTION"?)
(And I read Oreo cannot be rooted yet? Any ideas on the permanence of this issue/if installing now would make me unable to root in the future for any reason?)
-Rooted Nougat BRB1 (80% battery bug, screen tint issues, loss of a few apps that I'm not sure I need?)
-FIRM Unbranded 3(network settings must be changed with another app, missed call notifications don't show with the default phone app) Would this also have the bugs from the other nougat ROM?
I'm also curious about what I can do with the phone/ROMs personally. Is further development feasible/Needed?
EDIT: Interested in my downgrade/ revert to stock options on each as well. I'd like to be able to go back if i make any mistakes, although. Although I probably wouldn't mind being stuck on oreo with safestrap?
Sounds like you're aware of jrkruse's ROM? It doesn't have root, yet, as the bootloader is literally locked down by Verizon, but SafetyNet apps work fine with it, some say even with Xposed. I use a 128 GB card and safestrap reads it just fine. Only downside is no root, as far as I'm concerned.

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