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3 'New' cool apps

Hey guys,
I just wanted to inform you about two apps I found recently that appear to boost performance and battery life a bit.
The one that boosts performance is a better and more efficient version of Seeder. It's called SeFix and (as opposed to Seeder) really does seem to work!
The second (the battery booster) is actually way more versatile:
It's called Greenify and it lets you disable apps to run in the background.
Eg. I set it to decline the Google Maps request to run in the background all the time; because as we all know, Maps often sucks somewhere near 7% of the battery.
(However, it needed me to root uninstall it and then install it from the play store, so it wasn't a system app anymore)
Anyway: I hope this helped and that it makes your device nicer to use (like it did for me)
Last but not least: as you are probably aware: Orange Backup is a backup app that lets you do complete (CWM or TWRP style backups) without having to go into the recovery!
Really awesome.

Re: 2 'New' cool apps
Been using greenify since the first version and agree it works well
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Been using greenify since the first version and agree it works well
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I really feel it extends my battery life. I like how it prevents Maps to run in the background.
I guess you can also set it that way for FaceBook too (if you have the app. I don't because I don't want to be tied to FB all the time) lol

Greenify!

No more envy of your friends' iPhone which never become slow and battery hungry after lots of apps installed. With Greenify, your Android device can also run almost as smooth and lasting as the first day you have it!
Greenify help you identify and put the bad behaving apps into hibernation when you are not using them, stop them from battery leeching, memory hogging and stealthy running, in an elegant and unique way! They could do nothing without your explicit launch, while still have full functionality when running in foreground. Like what iOS apps act!
The built-in App Analyzer will analyze and show apps in your device that keep running persistent services and those launch itself automatically on a regular basis (when network connectivity changes, or every time you unlock your device, install / uninstall / update your apps, etc).
ROOT is required. If you are experiencing hibernation issue, this may be caused by your root management app (e.g. "SuperUser"), please try installing "SuperSU" instead.
here is the link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify ( you can download it from attachments too !! )
There is also a donate version which lets you put system apps for hibernating as well!
Here's the link for that..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify.pro
Give it a try people and don't forget to thank the owner and me if I have helped..
OP I have removed the apk because the developer only wants it to be downloaded from the playstore (yours was the old version anyway). Here's the link Please don't do that again. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737

Cool app! Missed this one until now. I'm wondering if there any advantages/disadvantages to "Greenifying" apps compared with "Freezing" apps with Titanium Backup. It seems that Titanium's freezing requires more work on the user's part. Their widget that freezes/unfreezes and launches and app is very similar. The difference is that I have to manually REFREEZE the app when done. Is this correct? If so, this is a wonderful app. Still testing...just installed. THANK YOU!

You are correct! I used to use titanium b/u pro.. But like u say, it requires much user attention and input. I much prefer greenify, and I seem to get better battery life with it too (likely because of the automation, thus less screen-on time = better batt life). Not sure if it gives better performance, cause I don't push my phone very much, and it was already fast as hell with tbp.. I'm running soa b4 right now, previously jmt6 worked great with both. Hope this helps
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Update: just from modifying my greenify list a bit and switching to interactive governor, am now getting 5-6 hrs screen on time.
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I don't know if I'm seeing much difference with this app. I have been using it for some time already, but most of my battery hogging apps (according to the greenify app) are messaging apps, tapatalk, etc that needs to notify me when it needs to. If I greenify these, I won't get any notification from them, right? Is this correct?
If so, then i'm not sure if will see much difference in battery life anyway..

I get a full 12 hour day with 20%+ left by 10pm
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Best battery life and performance.

Hey all. Just wanted to get some input on getting the best bang for your buck when it comes to battery life. Though I've never been one for task killers and battery saver apps, recently I've been testing out a few different apps. Avast (uninstalled as I've never seen the need for anti virus on Android personally), Battery Doctor, CleanMate (I think It was called) and a few other battery saver apps. However, I cant seem to come to a conclusion on whether they help or hinder. Or if I'm even using them right.
The thing is they all seem to tell me different, conflicting info so I can't really make heads or tails out of it. They all seem to tell me different apps are running in the background and all suggest I do different things like kill apps, clear cache, free up memory, etc. What I have always used is system panel to kill a malfunctioning app if needed, cachemate, and SetCPU to underclock when the device is not in use. Now I am on a stock ROM with root and dont have a kernel that supports over/under clocking.
So I was just wondering what any of you guys to to both increase performance and save battery. Some kind of balancing act. And I don't want my experience to suffer, ex- I like my screen bright so am not going to turn it down to 30%. Stuff like that. I am kind of with the thinking that I should just use my tablet and let the system do its own thing, but then I kinda get that ocd thing going and want to have total control. So anyway, would love to hear what you guys think and use. Also, i would love love love to try out tasker but am unemployed and broke so that cant happen anytime soon. Thanks.
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Out of curiosity, how long does your Note 8.0 last?

You know, I couldn't really tell you right now. I inherited it from a friend about a week ago. He thought it was bricked and junk. I just loaded up some stock firmware, rooted it and since it's new to me I have been playing around with it lots so haven't experienced "normal use" yet. I wasn't really asking because I thought the battery was bad, but I just like to have total control and wondered what everyone was doing these days. I used to be big in the android scene, as a power user not a dev or anything, but have been out of the game for awhile. So far the battery seems to be really good when it's on standby or say if I have spotify running or netflix or playing an audiobook. But it seems to drain pretty fast when im using it more actively- emailing, switching to facebook, switching to internet etc. Again, I'm not really having battery problems, and it's a new tablet to me, but I just wanna stay ahead of the game. Sorry I can't give you any numbers right now, but I'm sure you understand.
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Do a search about battery.. there are a dozen threads in the Q&A thread.
I am a minimalist and don't like any so claimed Battery Booster, Battery Enhancer, or Battery Calibrator apps that are all over the google play apps site. Most of the time I leave power saver on, and have most all sync settings and apps set to automatically update and poll info and retrieve email. As I do not like to jump through hoops to get some thing to operate as expected.
Security 360 does a great job with antivirus and memory consumption with apps. You may think that you may not need an Antivirus, but this one thoroughly checks apps if you decide to turn off Google's app checking, or use private party apps from forums or developers linking them to sites.
I use Xposed framework, mainly because of the ability to turn off functions without needing to install a custom ROM. I have been there done that and am not impressed with custom ROM of any type, over stock.
Turning off DVFS, thumbnail cache, and leaving Boost Mode alone as it is defaulted off... Is my primary setting with Winam Xposed module.
I use the app Greenify, Substrate, and its experimental plugin to Xposed. It has some nice features to complement Security 360.
Since Google has corrected some issues with some of its apps, and a few other apps have updated recently. I get 2% drain with 12 hours of standby.
Also under normal use, I get 8 to 9% drain per hour, and 6% per hour browsing.
For speed improvements, I have a 633X SD card that has been tested around 93MB/S and 44MB/s write on my laptop, there are some rated double but are about less in real life performance.
I use TweaksterMod Pro from my past custom ROM experiences, only to boost read a head cache to double the default. This only helps with super fast SD cards, the slower the SD card or having congested internal RAM the boost must be greatly increased.
With online video and media, I get about 12% per hour drain doing both streaming and miracasting to tv.
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!

update to 4.4.2 and battery calibrate resulted in 30hr+ battery life
good to read from you andr0id23 and gooberdude. I'm a little sensitive from my battery. since I bought two n5100 for me and my sister,I compare them in many aspects like performance,physical keys (volume,home,..) quality,battery life,... first I thought there's a problem with my battery.I used to test a lot of apps (some you mentioned,battery doctor,task killer,clean master,..) on my 4.1.2 stock ROM.the result was disappointing. my note hardly lasted for 8 hours with normal use (browsing,email checking,no games).it was better on my sister's tablet.
so I updated to 4.4.2 stock rom. things were like before UNTIL i did a battery calibrate.using a method almost like this link.by deleting battery stats after full charge.
I've attached the result.
notice that i have done a full wipe before update and i don't have that tones of app from 4.1.2.only the stock bloatwares and 25 harmless apps and games.this is the best result.the battery was so stubborn to live on its last 3 percent. approximately 3 hours on 1 present and the turned off.

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gooberdude you made it nice but I just didn't get some of these thing you said.would you please explain more?
gooberdude said:
Turning off DVFS, thumbnail cache, and leaving Boost Mode alone as it is defaulted off... Is my primary setting with Winam Xposed module.
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which modules did you used and what is DVFS,boost mode
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I use the app Greenify, Substrate, and its experimental plugin to Xposed. It has some nice features to complement Security 360.
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what is substrate
gooberdude said:
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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can you link me to the safe rooting note 8 OP please?why dont u use google play and triangle away.
sorry for lots of question.I googled them before asking but I gained not a good result.some leaded to good result like RootCloak.
thanks in advance.

norits021 said:
gooberdude you made it nice but I just didn't get some of these thing you said.would you please explain more?
which modules did you used and what is DVFS,boost mode
what is substrate
can you link me to the safe rooting note 8 OP please?why dont u use google play and triangle away.
sorry for lots of question.I googled them before asking but I gained not a good result.some leaded to good result like RootCloak.
thanks in advance.
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OK, if you rooted...
I recommend getting Xposed Framework installed, then install Wanam Exposed. It has a ton of mods to adjust about anything. Though depending on model and firmware, some stuff wont work.
If you want minimal... you can get Wanam Disable DVFS... Samsung's Touchwiz has a feature to assist with games called Dynamic Voltage File System. It seems to be the root of the evil with samsung devices. Google has made it clear that battery calibration tools don't do anything to calibrate the battery. By clearing the battery stats file, all you are doing is a temporary patch. DVFS does not play well with Androids battery stats, and corrupts the data for stats, thus giving bad battery status. Once DVFS is disabled, android will properly calibrate the status of the battery. It may take a few charge cycles or manual deletion of the battery stats file and a reboot.
Again if you root, you may want to add RootCloak to allow apps from detecting root. It does it automatically once you select the troubled app. It requires Substrate and allows you to click on a link to install. Once substrate is installed it will allow rootcloak to function properly
Saferoot.zip search for it in the note 8.0 threads... I placed my copy as a file in one of the requests.
It will allow a proper root without having to flash. So no need for triangle away unless you plan on a custom ROM.
If you use saferoot, you can always upgrade to 4.4.x at a later time without having to unroot or do any trickery.
Play is messed up... never worked right on my tablet, both with stock ROM or custom ROMs
Play music does not like a large amount of media on SD storage, let alone full Mp3tags... can't handle the data or just too many files.Also music does not stop when you reboot. after some time it starts up and plays again. Gallery is messed up with image caching. So I used Wanam to disable scroll cache. I use Nokia Music Player as it is the most robust player that is small and works well on a tablet.
Freezing google music will keep battery consumption down if you have a lot of media. as I have over 4,000 files and if any one of them has an odd character in the name, the media server goes ape and cycles a lot of CPU time into trying to index. Thus sucking power like it is cheap gas.
My sig shows what a stock ROM is capable with just a few add on apps to help get things sorted out with battery power. Right now I am in a fight with Security 360... they boogered up the app with Soccer Ads in splash screens during boot and starting the app. Other wise it is an excellent app for what it does. I use it to clean out krapp that usually is not monitored by other cleaning apps, and to tweak boot blocking apps and apps that are running in background after wake up.
Greenify works fine but you may find security 360 an added app cleaner for sleep / wakeup cycles.

great user
mmm.it worthed more than a simple thanks to me.
by the way you use it in a good way.it s about 1gb of used ram on start up for me.and 970 when killed processes.
I'll try those you mentioned.seems very usefull
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OK, if you rooted...
I recommend getting Xposed Framework installed, then install Wanam Exposed. It has a ton of mods to adjust about anything. Though depending on model and firmware, some stuff wont work.
If you want minimal... you can get Wanam Disable DVFS... Samsung's Touchwiz has a feature to assist with games called Dynamic Voltage File System. It seems to be the root of the evil with samsung devices. Google has made it clear that battery calibration tools don't do anything to calibrate the battery. By clearing the battery stats file, all you are doing is a temporary patch. DVFS does not play well with Androids battery stats, and corrupts the data for stats, thus giving bad battery status. Once DVFS is disabled, android will properly calibrate the status of the battery. It may take a few charge cycles or manual deletion of the battery stats file and a reboot.
Again if you root, you may want to add RootCloak to allow apps from detecting root. It does it automatically once you select the troubled app. It requires Substrate and allows you to click on a link to install. Once substrate is installed it will allow rootcloak to function properly
Saferoot.zip search for it in the note 8.0 threads... I placed my copy as a file in one of the requests.
It will allow a proper root without having to flash. So no need for triangle away unless you plan on a custom ROM.
If you use saferoot, you can always upgrade to 4.4.x at a later time without having to unroot or do any trickery.
Play is messed up... never worked right on my tablet, both with stock ROM or custom ROMs
Play music does not like a large amount of media on SD storage, let alone full Mp3tags... can't handle the data or just too many files.Also music does not stop when you reboot. after some time it starts up and plays again. Gallery is messed up with image caching. So I used Wanam to disable scroll cache. I use Nokia Music Player as it is the most robust player that is small and works well on a tablet.
Freezing google music will keep battery consumption down if you have a lot of media. as I have over 4,000 files and if any one of them has an odd character in the name, the media server goes ape and cycles a lot of CPU time into trying to index. Thus sucking power like it is cheap gas.
My sig shows what a stock ROM is capable with just a few add on apps to help get things sorted out with battery power. Right now I am in a fight with Security 360... they boogered up the app with Soccer Ads in splash screens during boot and starting the app. Other wise it is an excellent app for what it does. I use it to clean out krapp that usually is not monitored by other cleaning apps, and to tweak boot blocking apps and apps that are running in background after wake up.
Greenify works fine but you may find security 360 an added app cleaner for sleep / wakeup cycles.
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Anyone know a comand line to run in terminal emulator for reset the fuel gauge chip battery?
I cant find the folder in sys/class/power_supply/

fuel gauge reset via terminal emulator
PauloRMag said:
Anyone know a comand line to run in terminal emulator for reset the fuel gauge chip battery?
I cant find the folder in sys/class/power_supply/
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have a look on this topic.it for galaxy tabs but I guess it works on Note 8 too,although it is on your own risk(seems no risk,nothing gets worth than current state )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2398663
additionally,as I'm searching on batteries a few days,i found that there are different fuel chips out there.so we must do fuel gauge calibration method that fits our chip.If you found that please describe it here.

[Q] RAM is at 2GB of 3GB ??

I have noticed that im using up 2gb of ram. But i have only downloaded a few apps. No games. All the stuff i had before. My old phone was a little over 1gb total. Is this normal. Does the phone uses a lot of ram out of the box. Im thinking of rooting just so i can free up some ram. Not sure if that is possible. Im coming from a galaxy and very happy with this d851 g3.
Anyone having a memory problem ? Issues? What can i do?

Android always runs while using up as much ram as possible. Thats normal, if your phone had 8gb of ram, most likely it would also be using most of it up.

Makes app switching faster.......

All that bloatware runs in the background contributing to a high ram usage

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All that bloatware runs in the background contributing to a high ram usage
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Not completely true. I disabled most of the T-Mobile and LG crap on this phone and it's still using the same amount of RAM. It's Android's memory management.

I bet if the Android team could go back in time in the early days of system development they would have probably removed the ability to see free ram. So many people get caught up in free ram when the phone is using the available ram to the best of its ability.

Windows does alot of the same as well. Even though if you go into task manager it shows free if you actually look at your system resourses it shows alot of it is taken.

Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

Not sure about the whole 2g for 3gb thing but your system need all the rams it can use to keep your phone running smoothly. If you use ram cleaner (so they are call) you will notice your phone goes through a gitter before it it can pick up again. You look 5 minute later, its like you never clean anything.
and tmobile is surely 3g

Free RAM is wasted RAM.

Android uses RAM differently from say Windows. Android will use as much ram as available and when it needs more, it will free it up as needed. This is normal.

So yea i installed greenify and it made a **** load of a difference because i have like 40 games and a load of other apps. I have less than 1.5 gigs used now. And my phones way smoother and batterylife is good again
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brolic925t said:
So yea i installed greenify and it made a **** load of a difference because i have like 40 games and a load of other apps. I have less than 1.5 gigs used now. And my phones way smoother and batterylife is good again
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Don't worry you're about to see that battery life drop like a rock. Constantly killing apps will kill your battery fast. Greenify is a nice app if you have a crap phone but your G3 was made the way it is for a reason. What you think is smooth and fast is actually hurting your phone. Don't believe me, Google it and do some research. I do not recommend anyone using any format of task killer or ram optimizer on a phone that is current with the times.

Do I think the phone has issues. yes. When using it the apps don't close when ram is needed. Only fix is a reboot or kill the app but at times that does not work

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Don't worry you're about to see that battery life drop like a rock. Constantly killing apps will kill your battery fast. Greenify is a nice app if you have a crap phone but your G3 was made the way it is for a reason. What you think is smooth and fast is actually hurting your phone. Don't believe me, Google it and do some research. I do not recommend anyone using any format of task killer or ram optimizer on a phone that is current with the times.
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Don't worry Jammol doesn't know what he is talking about. Greenify doesn't hurt battery life and performance like a task killer because isn't a task killer. It is completely different. I agree that task killers should be renamed to battery/phone performance killers but Greenify is very different.
First of all it requires your phone to be rooted. Assuming that it is, it uses special permissions from the rooted device to essentially freeze the app unless it is opened by the user. For example, I use facebook but only casually. I look at it once every other day or so but have noticed that the push notifications and messenger uses a lot of battery because it does a partial wake everytime it pushes a update which activates the internet and cpu.
The solution is to "Greenify" the app. The app still loads normally when I open it up although, because it is not in the ram, it likely takes slightly longer to load. Once it is opened, I can use it like normal and I get push notifications again until my phone's screen goes off. Once the screen goes off, facebook and all the apps that I "Greenify" are flushed from the memory and are banned/essentially frozen until I launch the respective app again. The only drawback to this is that you essentially never get push notifications for the apps but it saves a lot of battery if you pick the apps that you don't care much about/rarely use.
So greenify does work really well. Today my phone had 17% left. I it had 16+ hours of battery time total. I got 4.25 hours of SOT with sync on (with 3 email accounts getting push notifications plus other apps), GPS high accuracy, LG health automatically recording my exercise, and 1 hour of navigation with Waze. Basically I used my phone how I wanted and didn't micromanage my battery usage throughout the day at all.
I used 3 battery saving tools. 1. ART 2. Greenify and 3. Custom Kernel V002 from KAsp3rd. These three are very powerful together.
I hope that helps someone!

ART

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Don't worry Jammol doesn't know what he is talking about. Greenify doesn't hurt battery life and performance like a task killer because isn't a task killer. It is completely different. I agree that task killers should be renamed to battery/phone performance killers but Greenify is very different.
First of all it requires your phone to be rooted. Assuming that it is, it uses special permissions from the rooted device to essentially freeze the app unless it is opened by the user. For example, I use facebook but only casually. I look at it once every other day or so but have noticed that the push notifications and messenger uses a lot of battery because it does a partial wake everytime it pushes a update which activates the internet and cpu.
The solution is to "Greenify" the app. The app still loads normally when I open it up although, because it is not in the ram, it likely takes slightly longer to load. Once it is opened, I can use it like normal and I get push notifications again until my phone's screen goes off. Once the screen goes off, facebook and all the apps that I "Greenify" are flushed from the memory and are banned/essentially frozen until I launch the respective app again. The only drawback to this is that you essentially never get push notifications for the apps but it saves a lot of battery if you pick the apps that you don't care much about/rarely use.
So greenify does work really well. Today my phone had 17% left. I it had 16+ hours of battery time total. I got 4.25 hours of SOT with sync on (with 3 email accounts getting push notifications plus other apps), GPS high accuracy, LG health automatically recording my exercise, and 1 hour of navigation with Waze. Basically I used my phone how I wanted and didn't micromanage my battery usage throughout the day at all.
I used 3 battery saving tools. 1. ART 2. Greenify and 3. Custom Kernel V002 from KAsp3rd. These three are very powerful together.
I hope that helps someone!
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Out of curiosity, how are you using art with xposed? Greenify uses the xposed framework.
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Harmtan2 said:
Out of curiosity, how are you using art with xposed? Greenify uses the xposed framework.
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I am not using xposed. Greenify works just fine for me without xposed. If you want some of the more advanced and experimental features, you need xposed but the basic functionality does not require it..

CAP3r5 said:
I am not using xposed. Greenify works just fine for me without xposed. If you want some of the more advanced and experimental features, you need xposed but the basic functionality does not require it..
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Aww that man's sense. I want to ruin art, I just don't want to give up my xposed features lol.
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Aww that man's sense. I want to ruin art, I just don't want to give up my xposed features lol.
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I know what you mean! This is just the latest skirmish in the never ending war between features and battery/performance. I can't wait for Android L to come out because this particular battle will end (xposed will support android L which uses ART exclusively) but the war will rage on..

Is greenify still needed on PIE?

I still have it on from Oreo but is it needed on PIE?

Yes... I think you need it more...
My RAM after boot is 1300MB and after couple hours use the free RAM is hovering around 500-800MB... Greenify is working very hard to stop some app entering "empty app" state which just sit there, not working, eat into your available free RAM....
Android P's OOM on "empty app" is set around 318MB, which I think is too low... Without Greenify a lot of app may enter "empty app" category and just stay there... If you fire up camera app with less then 600MB free RAM, Android P will just go crazy and try to kill everything ASAP including launcher to get free RAM... (My experience is not all empty app will be killed, instead some foreground app also got killed) Greenify will prevent those app entering "empty app" at first place...
I also modify the "empty app" OOM threadhold to 500MB... Greatly reduced the chance my Nova launcher being killed when launching Camera App.

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I still have it on from Oreo but is it needed on PIE?
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No. I stopped using Greenify after nougat after performing testing on oreo. There was no statistically significant improvement using Greenify with oreo. Pie uses AI based optimization, so I definitely wouldn't tamper with its logic using a third party tool unless you had a really good reason to.