What are HTC One M9 Developer GSM/UMTS bands? (Not LTE bands). I want to know if it is fully compatible with T-Mobile USA.
Thank you in advance
HTC's band list may help (http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer/) and GSMArena's description might fill in any blanks (http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php).
There are only LTE bands on HTC website and HAMsters doesn't have UMTS bands.
I just want to know if it is fully compatible with T-Mobile
It is fully compatible with T-Mobile. The HTC link, in addition to telling the bands it uses, also tells you which carriers it's compatible with.
At the GSM Arena website, click 'expand' in the network section to see all the bands across all the technologies supported (2G/3G/4G). UMTS is a 3G technology (Google UMTS vs HSDPA vs 3G to learn more).
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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urushiol said:
Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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Really dont know about it, but as far as i know you can flash radio bands anyways, so look for it on the web or this site, i use dev with no prblems at all in mexico with LTE. =D
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Really dont know about it, but as far as i know you can flash radio bands anyways, so look for it on the web or this site, i use dev with no prblems at all in mexico with LTE. =D
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Is that really true?
I am looking into getting the HTC One M9 through AT&T but may switch to T-Mobile in the future.
As such I want a phone that fully supports both networks ...
I found a thread that it is supposedly possible to flash the AT&T phone to support developer ROMs but I can't find any information whether it is possible to also change band support. According to GSM Arena the AT&T version of the phone also supports LTE band 4 and 12 (needed for T-Mobile) but it doesn't support VoLTE on band 12, nor does it have 3G AWS (1700/2100), though of course there is a T-Mobile version of the phone WITH support for all of those.
Can I simply flash my phone so that I can (a) use CM13/AOSP roms and (b) so that the radio uses the proper AT&T or T-Mobile bands and tech?
andTab said:
Is that really true?
I am looking into getting the HTC One M9 through AT&T but may switch to T-Mobile in the future.
As such I want a phone that fully supports both networks ...
I found a thread that it is supposedly possible to flash the AT&T phone to support developer ROMs but I can't find any information whether it is possible to also change band support. According to GSM Arena the AT&T version of the phone also supports LTE band 4 and 12 (needed for T-Mobile) but it doesn't support VoLTE on band 12, nor does it have 3G AWS (1700/2100), though of course there is a T-Mobile version of the phone WITH support for all of those.
Can I simply flash my phone so that I can (a) use CM13/AOSP roms and (b) so that the radio uses the proper AT&T or T-Mobile bands and tech?
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WELL I DONT BELIVE cm13/AOSP WOULD BE BEST OPTION I FLASHED DVEELOPER 2.11 AND OVER IT VIPERONE 3.5.0 (WWE BASE 2.10) ANS WORKS FINE, AFAIK.... TELCEL BANDS (MEXICO) ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ATT, ACTUALLY I FOLLOWED IN THE HTC M9 THREAD HOW TO CHANGE MY PHONE (ATT) TO DEVELOPER EVEN WHEN I HAVE TELCEL AND IT WORKED!!! =D YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUE.
LLegion said:
WELL I DONT BELIVE cm13/AOSP WOULD BE BEST OPTION I FLASHED DVEELOPER 2.11 AND OVER IT VIPERONE 3.5.0 (WWE BASE 2.10) ANS WORKS FINE, AFAIK.... TELCEL BANDS (MEXICO) ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ATT, ACTUALLY I FOLLOWED IN THE HTC M9 THREAD HOW TO CHANGE MY PHONE (ATT) TO DEVELOPER EVEN WHEN I HAVE TELCEL AND IT WORKED!!! =D YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUE.
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What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
OHH I SEE SORRY, WELL WHATEVER, YOU CAN FLASH RADIO BANDS AS WELL AND SUPPORT OTHER CARRIERS, JUST read here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/recovery-flashable-radio-zip-t3122983
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andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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and also check it on here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32827
andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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and also check it on here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32827
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andTab said:
What I am asking is very different: AT&T and T-Mobile DO NOT use the same bands (e.g. AWS for T-Mobile) nor the same tech (VoLTE on band 12)
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and also check it on here... https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32827
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
urushiol said:
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
Google is your friend.
And in case you didn't notice: I was asking about AWS and VoLTE since LTE bands are the same.
urushiol said:
All this info is about LTE bands. I am curious about HSPA/UMTS bands. I would like to know what it supports out of the box, not what I can with mods.
Thanks!
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The T-mobile version of the M9 supports the most bands. The AT&T and Developer Edition are identical and are missing some bands needed for t-mobile LTE (Volte) support in some areas. Flashing different radios will not enable bands the phone does not have. Theirs more information in the T-mobile M9 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-1-32-617-30-dev-edition-rom-tmobile-t3078315
andTab said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
Google is your friend.
And in case you didn't notice: I was asking about AWS and VoLTE since LTE bands are the same.
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Thanks for the reply. I have checked GSM arena, plus anything else I could find on google. I don't see a listing for the unlocked/developer edition on this page. I see EMEA, Verizon, ATT and T-mobile.
And yes, sorry, I didn't realized there was an AWS for HSPA, i was just thinking about band 4 LTE on ATT which I think is AWS.
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The T-mobile version of the M9 supports the most bands. The AT&T and Developer Edition are identical and are missing some bands needed for t-mobile LTE (Volte) support in some areas. Flashing different radios will not enable bands the phone does not have. Theirs more information in the T-mobile M9 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-1-32-617-30-dev-edition-rom-tmobile-t3078315
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Thank you.
That's what I figured.
Sadly that means I won't get this phone.
Bump. Hoping someone can find a straight answer have been on the phone twice with HTC, even they can't provide a straight answer. I ever addressed them on twitter. No luck. Thanks in advance.
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Found much conflicting info on HSPA band support for the US unlocked/developer model.
htc.com says it supports 3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. But is also says it supports 4G LTE: FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,20,28, which is COMPLETELY wrong so i don't know if to trust htc.com.
Can anyone confirm the UMTS band support for this device? I am most interested in 900mhz UMTS because of trips to New Zealand where 900 mhz UMTS is often used.
Thanks!
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It's pretty difficult to find out info on band support, and I have no idea why. It should be readily available...
Anyway, have a look at this: http://wireless.fcc.gov/hac_documents/150813/9135276_21.PDF
Based on that, there are four models sold in the U.S., which are:
0PJA100 (which appears to be the AT&T version)
0PJA120 (which appears to be the TMO USA version)
0PJA200 (which appears to be the Sprint version)
0PJA300 (which appears to be the Verizon version)
The AT&T model supports the following: UMTS 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz.
Now, that said, if you look on AT&T's site, they list their model as 0PJA110, so obviously either the FCC site is wrong or the AT&T site is wrong.
I happen to have the 0PJA110 model, which is also the Rogers model (so it would make sense that the AT&T version is 0PJA110 because Rogers and AT&T generally have the same devices, and their networks are generally the same frequencies). Based on HTC Canada's site, the Rogers model supports UMTS 850MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz.
Now, for the assumption: From what I have read (but I haven't personally confirmed), the unlocked and developer models are the same as the AT&T model. If that is indeed the case, then you have your answer: No UMTS 900MHz support the unlocked and/or developer models (in fact, not UMTS support on any U.S. model).
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Anyway, have a look at this: http://wireless.fcc.gov/hac_documents/150813/9135276_21.PDF
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I know this is a delayed followup, but I wanted to say thanks for this. I finally got HTC to confirm that UMTS 850MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz are the official specs for the US unlocked edition(which, oddly, is marked 0PJA110 on the back).
I am pushing them for a refund for false advertising. I was so concerned that these specs could be wrong before I purchased the phone, that I did a chat with HTC and they assured me the correct specs were UMTS 850MHz, 900MHz, 1700MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz. Once they confirmed these specs for me, I purchased the phone. Now they confirm they told me wrong. Very frustrating experience.
I am waiting to hear back about getting a refund. I am hoping the come through, this is crazy.
Hi,
Two week ago I've ordered from Amazon US The Galaxy watch 42mm LTE version (4G LTE SM-R815UZKAXAR)
Yesturday I've noticed that the LTE bands in my country (ISRAEL) are different from the one specified on the watch US spec (Only Band 5 [850]) are supported on both the US and my country - all other bands are different).
1. Will one band only support (B5, 850) be enough to get all data & voice functionality ?
1. Is this a firmware issue only, or different zone Samsung watch have different hardware as well ?
2. Any link for an international firmware that would open other bands as well ?
Thanks a lot,
G.
galsplace said:
Hi,
Two week ago I've ordered from Amazon US The Galaxy watch 42mm LTE version (4G LTE SM-R815UZKAXAR)
Yesturday I've noticed that the LTE bands in my country (ISRAEL) are different from the one specified on the watch US spec (Only Band 5 [850]) are supported on both the US and my country - all other bands are different).
1. Will one band only support (B5, 850) be enough to get all data & voice functionality ?
1. Is this a firmware issue only, or different zone Samsung watch have different hardware as well ?
2. Any link for an international firmware that would open other bands as well ?
Thanks a lot,
G.
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Hey man
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Could someone who has this exact model please confirm whether or not the FDD LTE band configuration is as follows?
Apologies for inconveniencing members with such elementary questions, but I have very impaired vision and there are few MASSIVE screen phones that work in the USA within my price range. I contacted Motorola and posted in their forum to be sure of this purchase, but to no avail.
Meanwhile every seller in the USA who claims to carry the XT-2087-1 Odessa variant is posting the FDD-LTE Configuration for XT-2087-2 (which lacks B12, B17 and B66) in their specification.
The config I think it is supposed to have is:
FDD-LTE Bands: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12, B17, B28 and B66
If that is correct, why are Amazon sellers are stating that this phone cannot use Volte? I do understand that getting Volte to work on an international model might require using short codes and/or activating the Sim on a different phone before using it with the G9 Plus, or maybe rooting and a custom rom, but that's okay. Just want to make sure it's not hardware limited).
Is anyone here using this phone with ATT or T-Mobile or an ATT/TMO MVNO?
Thank you for your help!
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Could someone who has this exact model please confirm whether or not the FDD LTE band configuration is as follows?
Apologies for inconveniencing members with such elementary questions, but I have very impaired vision and there are few MASSIVE screen phones that work in the USA within my price range. I contacted Motorola and posted in their forum to be sure of this purchase, but to no avail.
Meanwhile every seller in the USA who claims to carry the XT-2087-1 Odessa variant is posting the FDD-LTE Configuration for XT-2087-2 (which lacks B12, B17 and B66) in their specification.
The config I think it is supposed to have is:
FDD-LTE Bands: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12, B17, B28 and B66
If that is correct, why are Amazon sellers are stating that this phone cannot use Volte? I do understand that getting Volte to work on an international model might require using short codes and/or activating the Sim on a different phone before using it with the G9 Plus, or maybe rooting and a custom rom, but that's okay. Just want to make sure it's not hardware limited).
Is anyone here using this phone with ATT or T-Mobile or an ATT/TMO MVNO?
Thank you for your help!
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I have that model but have no idea how to check that config
Thanks for replying. Are you using it in the USA and if you are can you tell me which carrier you are using and which LTE band is active? (Any Android app that checks network configuration can show the info).
How are you liking the phone?
brasscupcakes said:
Thanks for replying. Are you using it in the USA and if you are can you tell me which carrier you are using and which LTE band is active? (Any Android app that checks network configuration can show the info).
How are you liking the phone?
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No, I'm not from the US
Okay: I finally got a callback from Motorola international (who were no help at all as they referred me to the New Zealand website which is a different model).
However, the 4G LTE configuration for this exact model is listed on the Brazil website: https://www.motorola.com.br/smartphone-moto-g9-plus/p
It is as follows:
Bandas
2G - GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
4G - LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8
/B12/B17/B28/B66
This means the only major band this phone is lacking for TMO is band 71. Yes, it is increasingly important for TMO, but even without band 71, this is one of the few Motorola Dual Sim phones to include FDD LTE 12/17 & 66.
It should be fully compatible with AT&T (except that Cricket won't permit it to use Volte on the Cricket network ... AT&T MVNOs apart from Cricket seem to be fine).
I am probably going to take a chance and order this on Amazon. I will report back on how well it works with my two ATT MVNOs --- still looking for a cheap prepaid TMO MVNO sim for testing purposes, if anybody has suggestions.
brasscupcakes said:
Okay: I finally got a callback from Motorola international (who were no help at all as they referred me to the New Zealand website which is a different model).
However, the 4G LTE configuration for this exact model is listed on the Brazil website: https://www.motorola.com.br/smartphone-moto-g9-plus/p
It is as follows:
Bandas
2G - GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
4G - LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8
/B12/B17/B28/B66
This means the only major band this phone is lacking for TMO is band 71. Yes, it is increasingly important for TMO, but even without band 71, this is one of the few Motorola Dual Sim phones to include FDD LTE 12/17 & 66.
It should be fully compatible with AT&T (except that Cricket won't permit it to use Volte on the Cricket network ... AT&T MVNOs apart from Cricket seem to be fine).
I am probably going to take a chance and order this on Amazon. I will report back on how well it works with my two ATT MVNOs --- still looking for a cheap prepaid TMO MVNO sim for testing purposes, if anybody has suggestions.
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friend. save your files and try to reset it with your carrier's chip and put it later when you go into airplane mode there within 2 minutes you can take it out of airplane mode that might solve your case. Hope this helps . here always help me doing this