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Which MI to get?

Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:

Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.

domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
Sent from my ZTE ZTE A2017G using XDA Labs

nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331

I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.

Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?

Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.

Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?

This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).

I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.

domsch1988 said:
Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!

dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
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What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.

domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s

Is the Xiaomi Mi 6 Worth it?

Hey
Thanks for any help, and sorry if this isn't the proper space for it.
I've a Sprint S6 Edge, but I'm considering changing it for the new Xiami Mi 6. Is it a good deal?
Am I going to miss the 2K Amoled Screen? I'm going to feel the difference in the camera? And the IR sensor? Am I going to miss it that much?

I think MI 6maybe better than S6E, there's a 835 in it.

If u want keep on Sprint, do not purchase the Chinese brand cell phone which not sold by Sprint. Too pain.
If u can transfer to T-Mobile or AT&T, that a great phone recently.

Great phone, got it today.

i buy it today. so i waiting.

Xiaomi only uses good chipset nothing else, S6 Edge is better, dont buy xiaomi

EnesSastim said:
Xiaomi only uses good chipset nothing else, S6 Edge is better, dont buy xiaomi
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You are kidding?The world is developing everyday.

hbbxmjbb said:
You are kidding?The world is developing everyday.
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Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months

EnesSastim said:
Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months
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Xiaomi is a great company ,Lei Jun does better than Jobs ,but Samsung is a dirty company .

EnesSastim said:
Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months
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What do you mean? I'm still using a 3 years old mi 3. Had to change only once the battery. Running the latest RR rom is still better than many new phones with OEM roms.

EnesSastim said:
Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months
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Why? I have Mi5 for a year,and it shames my father S6E in almost every aspect. Only thing going for S6E is screen...,maybe...

Well, now I'm using MI 6, I got it for have a month. The hardware is good except some problems caused by SD835(such as WiFi...), but the software is not so stable at the moment, for example, in latest version of MIUI the quick charge was limited...
It will be better after a few days, anyway software problems are easy to fix.

EnesSastim said:
Xiaomi only uses good chipset nothing else, S6 Edge is better, dont buy xiaomi
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I don't think so. Used both S6 Active and S7 Active, I would say Mi 6 is better than both.
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shawk12345 said:
Well, now I'm using MI 6, I got it for have a month. The hardware is good except some problems caused by SD835(such as WiFi...), but the software is not so stable at the moment, for example, in latest version of MIUI the quick charge was limited...
It will be better after a few days, anyway software problems are easy to fix.
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Which version MIUI you have? I have no problem with both the latest stable China and Custom EU rom (based on Dev China Rom).... (I used 45W charger of Xiaomi which support both USB PD and QC 3.0)

Is Honor 8 Pro a good upgrade from one plus 3?

Hello Guys,
I have a one plus 3 now and a iPhone 7 Plus 128gb. I was thinking on moving from one plus 3 ( I Never had any issues with it ).
One plus 3 is Running on AquariOS with ElementalX Kernel on 7.1.2.. The reasons I wanted to take honor 8 pro is
1. Bigger Battery .
2. Better Screen.
3. More Space.
4. Low price Compared to one plus 5.
5. Maybe a new experience..
Suggest me pleaseeee? Pro's and Con's and if there are any better alternatives at lower price. Please let me know....thank you

obivan_jr said:
Hello Guys,
I have a one plus 3 now and a iPhone 7 Plus 128gb. I was thinking on moving from one plus 3 ( I Never had any issues with it ).
One plus 3 is Running on AquariOS with ElementalX Kernel on 7.1.2.. The reasons I wanted to take honor 8 pro is
1. Bigger Battery .
2. Better Screen.
3. More Space.
4. Low price Compared to one plus 5.
5. Maybe a new experience..
Suggest me pleaseeee? Pro's and Con's and if there are any better alternatives at lower price. Please let me know....thank you
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The only con you'll face is EMUI (compared to Oneplus's OxygenOS), everything is better on honor 8 pro.
And about EMUI, don't worry, the devs are working on Cutsom ROMs, and soon they'll be fully stable.
As for better alternatives at lower prices, I guess there's honor 9

PalakMi said:
The only con you'll face is EMUI (compared to Oneplus's OxygenOS), everything is better on honor 8 pro.
And about EMUI, don't worry, the devs are working on Cutsom ROMs, and soon they'll be fully stable.
As for better alternatives at lower prices, I guess there's honor 9
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I am using emui for the first time and really loving it. It's not like MIUI which completely changes everything.
Sent from my Honor 8 pro using Tapatalk

K.khiladi said:
I am using emui for the first time and really loving it. It's not like MIUI which completely changes everything.
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Yeah, it's great ( on marshmallow it was a little bit ugly)

PalakMi said:
The only con you'll face is EMUI (compared to Oneplus's OxygenOS), everything is better on honor 8 pro.
And about EMUI, don't worry, the devs are working on Cutsom ROMs, and soon they'll be fully stable.
As for better alternatives at lower prices, I guess there's honor 9
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Thinking of ordering one .....thank u for the reply

K.khiladi said:
I am using emui for the first time and really loving it. It's not like MIUI which completely changes everything.
Sent from my Honor 8 pro using Tapatalk
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There is a lot of scope for custom roms as well..

obivan_jr said:
Thinking of ordering one .....thank u for the reply
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I hope you enjoy your new phone

Xiaomi MI6 or Huawei P10?

I'm looking to buy new phone, now I have Redmi note 4 global edition, but I want smaller size phone. Headphone jack is not important for me.
I can get Xiaomi for about 436 $ and Huawei p10 for 500 $
I don't know what to buy.

check gsmarena for comparison hardware-wise. but i would get the p10 since they are nicer with kernel sources and its a better looking phone imo. i have the mi6 now...

consider the complain between these 2, P10 is better.
Ps. i have Mi6 , not so bad but not feel like top phone

Did anyone of you used P10 ? I'm little scared only for battery life, because miui is nicely optimised for battery consumption.

Robi959 said:
Did anyone of you used P10 ? I'm little scared only for battery life, because miui is nicely optimised for battery consumption.
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because p10 has better options for custom roms, you can flash a well-made one. You also avoid bloatware

Nouatik said:
because p10 has better options for custom roms, you can flash a well-made one. You also avoid bloatware
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P10 got custom rom? Are you serious? point me one custom rom please

As I can see there is just one custom rom xD
I will see because difference between these two phones is almost 100 €

saxmydix said:
P10 got custom rom? Are you serious? point me one custom rom please
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Robi959 said:
As I can see there is just one custom rom xD
I will see because difference between these two phones is almost 100 €
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Huawei recently released their source for kernel.
So roms should be on their way!
https://www.xda-developers.com/kernel-sources-released-for-the-huawei-mate-9-and-huawei-p10/
While we havent heard anything from Xiaomi and it has been about 6months since the release of the mi 6

Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.

NisseGurra said:
Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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all depends on the dev support, just look at honor 8 and 9.

Mi6 is better. I had P9 and huawei release kernel sources and what? One dev make lineage os which works worser than the worst custom rom on mi5. But EMUI is ok, like miui.

Had P10,overheating,bad battery life due to old CPU as well as GPU performance & throttling make Mi6 a clear winner here. Also there was no oleophobic coating and u risk getting a model with anciennt memory speeds(it's a lottery,i ended up with slow one).

NisseGurra said:
Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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Still, kirin phones don't have much dev love and popularity around developers as Snapdragon does. Xiaomi mi 6 will have by far better and more roms than any huawei phone.

The Honor 9 might be another option, since it's slightly cheaper than the P10, depending on where you are.
I have the Mi6 and love it. It's the best phone I've owned. It has the fastest SD processor, a great display, great sound, a great camera, fast charging, and a notification LED.
Since I was curious, I recently purchased a OnePlus 5. Even using the Google camera app, the OP5's photos weren't as good as the Mi6's. The Mi6's colours were far more natural and true to life, especially the skin tones and colours on trees. The OP5 felt huge, too.
The Honor 9 (and probably the P10) seems very similar to the Mi6, but it seems slightly inferior in every category. If you compare GSM Arena's reviews, the Honor's processor is slightly slower, battery charging takes longer, the battery is smaller, there's less RAM in the cheapest variant, there's no Gorilla Glass and the 1080P videos are inferior. MIUI seems to receive more updates than EMUI, too.

Yeah MIUI got more updates. Just one problem i have with MIUI, expandable notifications on lockscreen and in list, you can do it with two fingers but that's. Hope they will implement that in the future updates.

p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10

Codseus said:
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
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maybe camera but defiantly not battery!!!

Codseus said:
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
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Battery is laughable comparing to Mi6

Too many people not knowing what they re talking about are writing in this topic.
mi6 is a clear winner

P10 camera might be a little bit better... Might.
But nothing beats the Mi 6 with battery. Nothing.
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Redmi Note 7 Pro vs Mi Mix 2

Which one whould you chose and why ?
I don't care about camera, i care about performance,battery and dev support.
Thank you

In performance MIX 2 is Better a little. The battery I don't know, I saw video that the MI9 is better with smaller battery, so I think the Redmi Note 7 Pro is not much better than MIX 2. Software updates... Newer is better. But I would buy the MIX 2. becouse it has much more LTE support, and the body quality is much better. Plus the MIX2 has UFS 2.1 memory, what is much faster than the Note 7 pro's EMMC 5.1 ROM.

RootNightmareX said:
Which one whould you chose and why ?
I don't care about camera, i care about performance,battery and dev support.
Thank you
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(Mix 2) I don't like the battery... i get 4-4.5h SOT with 4G all the time and hotspot using facebook,twitter,instagram & little games like brawl stars.
The performance it's very good, i choose Mix 2.
Mix 2 will receive Android p and will stop at it., Note 7 will get Android Q... Good that there are custom roms

katolyimartin said:
In performance MIX 2 is Better a little. The battery I don't know, I saw video that the MI9 is better with smaller battery, so I think the Redmi Note 7 Pro is not much better than MIX 2. Software updates... Newer is better. But I would buy the MIX 2. becouse it has much more LTE support, and the body quality is much better. Plus the MIX2 has UFS 2.1 memory, what is much faster than the Note 7 pro's EMMC 5.1 ROM.
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Eclynoh said:
(Mix 2) I don't like the battery... i get 4-4.5h SOT with 4G all the time and hotspot using facebook,twitter,instagram & little games like brawl stars.
The performance it's very good, i choose Mix 2.
Mix 2 will receive Android p and will stop at it., Note 7 will get Android Q... Good that there are custom roms
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its sd675 at least in gaming better than a sd 820?

RootNightmareX said:
its sd675 at least in gaming better than a sd 820?
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MIX 2 has SD 835 and fully smooth during gaming.
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its sd675 at least in gaming better than a sd 820?
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MIX 2 has SD 835 and fully smooth during gaming.

get a mix2s instead, they are pretty cheap

Unless u r a heavy game player, the Rm note 7 pro is a better choice. 4000mhA battery with sd 675 will give u a great battery life. Mix2's 3500mhA and sd 835 is a wise combination too. But the newer Mi device has a better official suppose. Especially the Mi device after Mix2s.