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Hi there,
I have a network unlocked Z1C which came from o2. The bootloader unlock allowed status is No but the phone is rooted. Is there anything I can do to this to unlock it? I feel like trying CM on it
Thanks!
I have searched for answers to this but no joy...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=280903320
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Comedy- said:
Hi there,
I have a network unlocked Z1C which came from o2. The bootloader unlock allowed status is No but the phone is rooted. Is there anything I can do to this to unlock it? I feel like trying CM on it
Thanks!
I have searched for answers to this but no joy...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=280903320
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=280903428
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brilliant... ive got a z1c comping in the post today and the only reason im upgrading to it from the xperia m is so i can flash a custom kernel and get tweaking
Comedy- said:
I have a network unlocked Z1C which came from o2. The bootloader unlock allowed status is No but the phone is rooted. Is there anything I can do to this to unlock it? I feel like trying CM on it
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If your bootloader unlock allowed status is no then you will most likely never be able to unlock that phones bootloader. I think your best bet is to contact O2 and tell them you want a phone on which the bootloader is unlockable, perhaps they can give you a special key to unlock the functionality, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Oh and don't try CM on it, it'll just bootloop and you'll have to use SUS or PC Companion to restore a working OS.
...actually there is one hope, but it requires dismantling the phone. There is a test-point behind the battery which might enable you to put the device into a mode where it'll accept a command allowing bootloader unlock. But again, high risk, not sure if it's actually possible, easier to just sell the phone and buy an unlockable one if you want to run CM. Maybe you could even return the device, how long have you had it?
my z1c just turned up and ive got an bootloader unlock allowed :victory::victory::victory:
I have locked bootloader on EE in UK and have found that many of the tweaks I wanted can be achieved with Xposed modules. Give it a try but backup before you start.
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Hello there,
I was thinking about a test.
My problem is "Unlock bootloader allowed : no".
What could happen if i restore an other TA partition with "Unlock bootloader allowed : yes". I erase the old by a new one which unlockable. All i need is a TA partition build with a z1c which unlockable and the unlock code.
What do you think ?
Soory for my bad english
If you replace your ta partition it will most likely hardbrick your device.
What is a ta partition, i don't understand.
A bootloader is like a bios on motherboard.
But it is locked by a code.
The bootloader is the same on each z1c no ?
Megani said:
What is a ta partition, i don't understand.
A bootloader is like a bios on motherboard.
But it is locked by a code.
The bootloader is the same on each z1c no ?
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Flashing another phone's TA will hard brick yours, every TA is related to the phone which comes from
mindyabiznis said:
my z1c just turned up and ive got an bootloader unlock allowed :victory::victory::victory:
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How you done this??? I tried hundred and half methods and still CAN'T unlock damn bootloader............
I'm getting my T-MO G3 returned soon and would like to unlock the bootloader asap but I'm not exactly sure how. Is it just FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK or is there something else?
Boot loader is not locked
3UR0TR45H said:
I'm getting my T-MO G3 returned soon and would like to unlock the bootloader asap but I'm not exactly sure how. Is it just FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK or is there something else?
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whats the need for urgency ? there isnt a recovery even released yet.
wavrunrx said:
whats the need for urgency ? there isnt a recovery even released yet.
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Whenever I've unlocked a bootloader, it wipes the device. I'd rather do that before I set it up with my apps and accounts.
BACARDILIMON said:
Boot loader is not locked
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Correct me if I am wrong but every phone comes with a locked bootloader even the nexus line you need to unlock. We really need to stop calling encrypted bootloaders locked. So this phone isn't encrypted but surely it is locked.
Our G3 is the only one that's unlocked.
rumor has it tmobile g3 isn't locked
mgbotoe said:
rumor has it tmobile g3 isn't locked
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I'm confused I have an note 3 verizon. I am trading in my note 3 becaues of lock down bootloaders. will the G3 be easier to unlock? I have been reading that T moblie is the only one that comes unlocked.... Hmmm need some help befoere I jump Thanks
Guys. There is a difference between unlocked and unlockable. This being unlocked means there's nothing really to do. That's why it's so unusual.
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rumor has it tmobile g3 isn't locked
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I believe It's unlocked. Rooted with twrp
Unlocked, just rooted and installed twrp, nothing else to do about it.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/root-twrp-root-twrp-tmo-lg-g3-t2821005
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OK so I am going to have to return my pixel xl for a factory refurbished due to hardware issues with the camera flash. How do I relock the bootloader before taking it back?
Fastboot flashing lock? Or oem lock?
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oneandroidnut said:
Fastboot flashing lock? Or oem lock?
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It's that simple? Just run the fast lock command?
shibbnasty said:
It's that simple? Just run the fast lock command?
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I think lol it's been awhile since I locked a phone
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oneandroidnut said:
I think lol it's been awhile since I locked a phone
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I guess I should have mentioned as well it's a Verizon pixel xl and I had to use depixel8 to unlock it
shibbnasty said:
OK so I am going to have to return my pixel xl for a factory refurbished due to hardware issues with the camera flash. How do I relock the bootloader before taking it back?
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You better be absolutely sure that your device is completely stock before relocking the bootloader. Once you are sure, boot into the bootloader and type, fastboot OEM lock
lyall29 said:
You better be absolutely sure that your device is completely stock before relocking the bootloader. Once you are sure, boot into the bootloader and type, fastboot OEM lock
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All I have done is unlock it. I have not flashed any kernels or mods or anything.
shibbnasty said:
All I have done is unlock it. I have not flashed any kernels or mods or anything.
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Ok then. You should be fine. fastboot OEM lock will lock your bootloader and wipe your data at the same time.
lyall29 said:
Ok then. You should be fine. fastboot OEM lock will lock your bootloader and wipe your data at the same time.
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Thank you very much!
@shibbnasty. Actually, relocking the bootloader may not wipe data. I can't remember. Let me know if it does or not.
Yes it does.
Rank N00b here... just getting that out of the way.
Device: Verizon Pixel XL
Build: NDE63X
Bootloader: unlocked via dePixel8 (done after Nov update)
So the phone is stock and I'm not really keen on modding right now. I don't want to use a alpha build of TWRP and SuperSU seems to be in flux too. These aren't criticisms by the way; I realize this a very new handset and those kinds of tools take time to develop. Nothing happens overnight.
So, anyway, my phone is currently unlocked and I'm wondering if I'm not better off relocking it? As a stock unit, it should still get OTA's, right? Like I said, total n00b here...
@loaba,
There's absolutely no reason to relock your bootloader, unless you are annoyed by the Google bootloader unlock warning during boot, or if you are planning on returning it or selling it. Otherwise, leave it unlocked. Gives you much greater flexibility to recover if something goes wrong.
@cam30era,
Thanks for the reassurance.
loaba said:
@cam30era,
Thanks for the reassurance.
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Also, Verizon may remove unlock ability via dePixel8 in their December update.
If that happens, you might have to wait awhile to get Unlock on a VZN Pixel again.
michaelbsheldon said:
Also, Verizon may remove unlock ability via dePixel8 in their December update.
If that happens, you might have to wait awhile to get Unlock on a VZN Pixel again.
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So if I want to maintain an unlocked device I need to act now... Guess I'll see which comes first - the possibly debilitating Dec update or a stable TWRP build (and a correspondingly stable custom ROM).
loaba said:
So if I want to maintain an unlocked device I need to act now... Guess I'll see which comes first - the possibly debilitating Dec update or a stable TWRP build (and a correspondingly stable custom ROM).
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Yep, do nothing and stay unlocked. You will still receive VZN OTA's and stay up to date as long as you do not install a custom recovery or kernel.
AND since you've remained unlocked, when the time comes that you do want a custom kernel or recovery, you can get them.
If it gets messed up somehow, you can do a clean RUU install as if nothing happened. If it's locked, you can't do that as easily.
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Yep, do nothing and stay unlocked. You will still receive VZN OTA's and stay up to date as long as you do not install a custom recovery or kernel.
AND since you've remained unlocked, when the time comes that you do want a custom kernel or recovery, you can get them.
If it gets messed up somehow, you can do a clean RUU install as if nothing happened. If it's locked, you can't do that as easily.
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About the OTA's - that was my big concern for now. Cool.
OP - thread derailed... sorry, man.
You cannot use Android pay on an unlocked phone. Unless there is a workaround.
Khanusma said:
You cannot use Android pay on an unlocked phone. Unless there is a workaround.
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Most of the custom kernels fix that. Root is the hard one to hide.
I want to update everything except leave the bootloader on 7.1. Will this work?
LoliSmith said:
I want to update everything except leave the bootloader on 7.1. Will this work?
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Why would you leave the 7.1 bootloader? As long as you're unlocked, you can flash the whole factory image...
Cheers...
5.1 said:
Why would you leave the 7.1 bootloader? .
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Because Verizon. I want to be able to relock but not lose the ability to unlock again.
LoliSmith said:
Because Verizon. I want to be able to relock but not lose the ability to unlock again.
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You should do some reading. It doesn't work like that. If you ever lock your bootloader you will never be able to unlock it again. No reason to lock it anyways.
aholeinthewor1d said:
It doesn't work like that. If you ever lock your bootloader you will never be able to unlock it again. No reason to lock it anyways.
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I don't think you are correct. If you leave the bootloader on 7.1, you should be able to unlock it again using depixel8.
Where has anyone done what I am proposing to do - upgrade everything but the bootloader to 7.1.1 and leave the bootloader on 7.1? No one has done it. So no one knows.
im pretty sure you have to manually relock the bootloader,so updating to 7.1.1 shouldn't matter.
They cant relock your bootloader through software is what i was told by depilxel 8 developer.
I am updating to 7.1.1 right now just to get back to factory state need google support.
cant be reached on most custom roms.
No current stock rooted roms exist,so fresh start is needed.
LoliSmith said:
Because Verizon. I want to be able to relock but not lose the ability to unlock again.
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As soon as you update to 7.1.1 and you are locked, you will not be able to unlock again with depixel8. I don't care if you have a bootloader from 2 years ago. You probably should decide once and for all if you want the device secure and locked or unlocked. Otherwise at some point you will be in a pickle.
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There's always a way to find out. Let us know how it goes.
You should not be locking you're bootloader if it's not necessary. And depixel8 pushes stuff to system in order to enable allow oem unlocking. These things may not work on newer systems regardless of the bootloader version.
LoliSmith said:
I don't think you are correct. If you leave the bootloader on 7.1, you should be able to unlock it again using depixel8.
Where has anyone done what I am proposing to do - upgrade everything but the bootloader to 7.1.1 and leave the bootloader on 7.1? No one has done it. So no one knows.
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Your OP implies you can update everything else except the bootloader leaving you free to lock and unlock whenever you want which is 100% not true. There are new threads about this every week all the info is there. If you are on 7.1 you can unlock with dePixel8. Yea technically you could relock and unlock again ONLY while on 7.1 but there is 0 reason to. If you aren't 100% stock when locking you are going to have issues. Also if you're phone installs an OTA while you have the bootloader locked then you are 100% screwed and won't be able to unlock again. Either unlock it and never lock it again or don't bother. You're making something very simple overly complicated.
bobby janow said:
As soon as you update to 7.1.1 and you are locked, you will not be able to unlock again with depixel8.
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Has anyone done this without updating the bootloader or are you just speculating?
bobby janow said:
I don't care if you have a bootloader from 2 years ago.
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What are you basing this on? Has anyone every updated everything except the bootloader and then relocked or are you just speculating?
LoliSmith said:
Has anyone done this without updating the bootloader or are you just speculating?
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Nope, we are all waiting for you to tell us how it goes.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Your OP implies you can update everything else except the bootloader leaving you free to lock and unlock whenever you want which is 100% not true. There are new threads about this every week all the info is there. .
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So people have done this before? Updated everything but the bootloader and then relocked? Or are you just speculating?
aholeinthewor1d said:
Also if you're phone installs an OTA while you have the bootloader locked .
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I never take OTAs so that isn't an issue for me.
LoliSmith said:
So people have done this before? Updated everything but the bootloader and then relocked? Or are you just speculating?
I never take OTAs so that isn't an issue for me.
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You can't.. it doesn't work like that. Go ahead and try if you want. There are countless threads about the bootloader. With all the knowledgeable​ people here do you think they somehow just overlooked something so simple? There are 5 bootloaders total actually. Once you install 7.1.1 you will not be able to unlock again. Multiple people have told you this but you seem to not believe anyone so go ahead and prove us wrong.
aholeinthewor1d said:
You can't.. it doesn't work like that..
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So people have done this before? Updated everything but the bootloader and then relocked? Or are you just speculating?
It's a simple question. Either people have actually done this before, or you are just speculating.
aholeinthewor1d said:
There are countless threads about the bootloader. .
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But has anyone updated everything but left the bootloader on 7.1?
aholeinthewor1d said:
Once you install 7.1.1 you will not be able to unlock again.
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Again, there is a difference between updating everything to 7.1.1 and updating everything except the bootloader. Huge difference.
LoliSmith said:
So people have done this before? Updated everything but the bootloader and then relocked? Or are you just speculating?
It's a simple question. Either people have actually done this before, or you are just speculating.
But has anyone updated everything but left the bootloader on 7.1?
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Again. You can't.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Again. You can't.
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You've tried? Anyone else has tried?
So are you saying if I leave the bootloader on 7.1 and update everything else the phone won't work?
LoliSmith said:
You've tried? Anyone else has tried?
So are you saying if I leave the bootloader on 7.1 and update everything else the phone won't work?
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There is more than one bootloader which is what you are not understanding. There are 5. No one is certain exactly what 7.1.1 changed but if you flash any part of it (not just the bootloader) then you won't be able to unlock again.
aholeinthewor1d said:
There is more than one bootloader which is what you are not understanding.
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Why does that make a difference?
I am on the original bootloader, never updated anything.
If you have no plans to root the phone is there any reason to unlock the bootloader?
It would probably break Safety net and Android pay. BUT if you're unlocked, you have ability to flash factory images. That could be beneficial something goes really bad and your device won't boot up. You're also less secure with it unlocked.
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You can always lock and unlock the bootloader when you want.
I would say you should at least have the option checked on in the Developer settings.
So just in case something happened and you can't fully boot the phone. you can still get into it and unlock the bootloader and do what you need to do.
This happened to a friend of mine where something happened and couldn't fully boot and couldn't unlock bootloader cause the option was never checked.
I don't believe the unlock option stays enabled after it boots up.
I would argue why WOULDN'T you unlock the bootloader? Regardless of rooting, an unlocked bootloader is a safety net for when things go south. Phone decides to bootloop tomorrow? No big deal, flash the latest images via fastboot and start from scratch.
Sure there's the counter argument of the phone being much less secure and vulnerable in the hands of a person who is tech savvy and stole/found your device. I'm not worried about my phone being stolen so I ALWAYS unlock my bootloader.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I would argue why WOULDN'T you unlock the bootloader? Regardless of rooting, an unlocked bootloader is a safety net for when things go south. Phone decides to bootloop tomorrow? No big deal, flash the latest images via fastboot and start from scratch.
Sure there's the counter argument of the phone being much less secure and vulnerable in the hands of a person who is tech savvy and stole/found your device. I'm not worried about my phone being stolen so I ALWAYS unlock my bootloader.
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or just flash the full OTA image without an unlocked bootloader.
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You can always lock and unlock the bootloader when you want.
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Does re-locking the bootloader wipe the phone?
foosion said:
Does re-locking the bootloader wipe the phone?
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Yes, it does. That's why you should unlock or lock the bootloader when flashing factory images.
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Yes, it does.
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Thanks
mngdew said:
That's why you should unlock or lock the bootloader when flashing factory images.
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I don't understand what you mean by this.
You have to unlock the bootloader to flash a factory image and you can eliminate the w flag so that flashing the factory image won't wipe the phone.
uicnren said:
or just flash the full OTA image without an unlocked bootloader.
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Very true. If the phone goes into booploop due to a bad zip or whatever other reason you have a bricked device with no options to recover.
It's healthy for me to unlock my Bootloader ASAP on XDA!
Unlocking the bootloader was always the very first thing I did when I got a new phone. However, I use Android Pay all the time, and Google seems very determined to break AP for unlocked bootloaders with every new patch. Sure, someone usually finds a way to get it working again, but that sometimes takes time, and I simply use AP too much to deal with it. As long as AP won't work officially with an unlocked bootloader, mine stays locked unless I'm flashing an image, and even then, gets locked right after. Luckily, OTAs are posted by Google now, often at the same time as the Factory Images, so it hasn't really been an issue for me.
akenis said:
It would probably break Safety net and Android pay. BUT if you're unlocked, you have ability to flash factory images. That could be beneficial something goes really bad and your device won't boot up. You're also less secure with it unlocked.
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Thank you what actually is compromised when phone is unlocked?
uicnren said:
or just flash the full OTA image without an unlocked bootloader.
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How can you flash with a locked bootloader?
painfree said:
Thank you what actually is compromised when phone is unlocked?
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Data?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...unlocking-your-android-phones-bootloader/amp/
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If you have no plans to root the phone is there any reason to unlock the bootloader?
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If you ever contemplate going onto the Verizon network, when you first boot up after placing VZN sim into the phone,
the ability to ever unlock again is eliminated. You could relock it, but it will have the Unlock option in Developer
Option greyed out forever after that. I would unlock it maybe because of Verizon thing, but also to be able to flash factory a image in case I ever mess up the phone.
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If you ever contemplate going onto the Verizon network, when you first boot up after placing VZN sim into the phone,
the ability to ever unlock again is eliminated. You could relock it, but it will have the Unlock option in Developer
Option greyed out forever after that. I would unlock it maybe because of Verizon thing, but also to be able to flash factory a image in case I ever mess up the phone.
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As long as you have the Google version it should never grey out on you at least that's how it was with the first pixels. I have Verizon I've never had it grey out.
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Unlocking the bootloader was always the very first thing I did when I got a new phone. However, I use Android Pay all the time, and Google seems very determined to break AP for unlocked bootloaders with every new patch. Sure, someone usually finds a way to get it working again, but that sometimes takes time, and I simply use AP too much to deal with it. As long as AP won't work officially with an unlocked bootloader, mine stays locked unless I'm flashing an image, and even then, gets locked right after. Luckily, OTAs are posted by Google now, often at the same time as the Factory Images, so it hasn't really been an issue for me.
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This. Android Pay is pretty convenient and I always told myself I didn't need it compared to unlock+root. Wish Google would allow AP with unlocked bootloader but I can understand why they don't from a security standpoint.
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I don't understand what you mean by this.
You have to unlock the bootloader to flash a factory image and you can eliminate the w flag so that flashing the factory image won't wipe the phone.
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When you unlock the bootloader, phone is wiped automatically.