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SIM unlocked T-Mobile Z2 Force - on Verizon?

There are a ton of entries on XDA about sim unlocking the T-Mobile and Sprint versions of the Z2 force, but none of them confirm once unlocked if they've used it on Verizon.
T-Mobile's page confirms their version utilizes bands 2,4 and 13 - all of which are Verizon's LTE bands.
Can anyone confirm?
I'm looking to buy this to replace a work phone on Verizon. My personal account is with T-Mobile, so would be very nice if I could just flip sims whenever I'd like. Appreciate in advance the responses!

(unlock T-Mobile bootloader, sim unlock, root and put a custom rom with safety net passes)
then type this on google and try.
Unlock all bands of your Qualcomm device! Use your phone globally! No bs! by olokos
or this one
torial] Unlock ALL bands on xt907 (moto_msm8960) by umar_fia
both links you want are first ones on google
test and report back
unlock band 13 for lte
if possible
unlock band CDMA BC1 (1900 PCS) and CDMA BC0 (800)
if given an option for cdma protocols
activate
cdmaOne 2G
CDMA2000 1xRTT 3G
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0 3G
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A 3G
If you can't activate the cdma bands, you will have no 3g connection.

Oh if this works I would be so happy to switch back to VZW. Anyone attempted it yet?

I'm interested in knowing if anyone tried this too

I’m too chicken to mess with anything not official from xda on my daily driver. I’m sucking it up and waiting out the period for the device unlock app to ‘officially’ sim unlock and try. When that day comes, I’ll post here.
I think it’s ignorant having to wait for a sim unlock for a phone you bought outright.

joesee said:
I’m too chicken to mess with anything not official from xda on my daily driver. I’m sucking it up and waiting out the period for the device unlock app to ‘officially’ sim unlock and try. When that day comes, I’ll post here.
I think it’s ignorant having to wait for a sim unlock for a phone you bought outright.
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Eagerly awaiting news on this - why is there a waiting period on the sim unlock? How longs is that period? I'm about to head out to Tmobile store and buy me one too.

Verizon's LTE band 13 is exclusive to the Verizon model unfortunately. I wish it wasn't so you could use a bootloader unlocked Sprint or T-Mobile edition on Verizon. I did that with the Google Pixel - used the universal one on Verizon. I just got used to having an unrooted phone with the z2 Force. I switched to blokada after many years of always using ad away. I think most all ad blockers on unrooted phones are VPN based so it lags WiFi and mobile data a little but that's what you get to work with if you want the best moto phone running on Verizon.

Greefus said:
Verizon's LTE band 13 is exclusive to the Verizon model unfortunately.
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Could you provide your source of information on that? T-Mobile's listing of the Z2 Force lists band 13 LTE capability, and multiple sources say that the Sprint variant has band 13 too. I am just about to pull the trigger on a Z2 Force variant that is bootloader unlockable, but whichever carrier version I get has to work with Straight Talk Verizon.

I'm seeing the sprint one listed as having band 13 now everywhere actually. My bad. I don't recall seeing that back when i got it and was shopping around. Let me know if the Sprint one works for you on vz because i miss having a a rooted phone.

The only different thing on the US phone's is the oem partition. Everything else hardware and software are very similar to the point I want to say identical. (Obviously, some slight changes in /system and stuff but that's with the territory of using OEM ROMs). I have flashed a T-Mobile flashall and it worked. I flashed back to Sprint shortly after. I did it for science.

So in short, will am unlocked T-mobile Moto Z2 work on the Verizon network with a sim swap? Or does it require a root or the bootloader thing that was mentioned, I haven't done either one as I am content with factory.

So, what's the verdict? Will unlocked T-Mobile Z2 force work with Verizon?

Most likely will not work. T-Mobile variant is GSM and most likely doesn't have the CDMA bands on it or programmed into it. Only thing you can try is flash Verizon firmware and see if it works. 99% chance T-mobile firmware will not work, Verizon firmware has about a 40% chance of working. If you don't have the device, I'd suggest not investing as no one has tried it.

I tried the Verizon flash all on my TMobile z2. Didn't work.lost baseband.
The flash all looked as if everything flashed properly...but when it finished and rebooted it still had tmo splash screen. So I don't know if it really did it.
If it's worth any thing my Verizon Sim in my tmo z2 gets great data...just no calls/messages

I have an unlocked Sprint variant that I flashed to Verizon and use with Straight talk Verizon. The only issue is that so far whenever an update comes in I have to back up all the things I want to save and flash the updated flashall, because the automatic updater just keeps on failing. I don't know if this matters, but I'm bootloader unlocked (had to for sim unlock) but without TWRP or root. It's possible that if I would try relocking the bootloader that the automatic update process would work. I briefly had a Mint sim in there (T-mobile) and everything seemed to work. I didn't really try things out with the Sprint rom, but as I remember everything worked, I just didn't like the icon style plus always having a notification saying something about a non Sprint sim card

zstricky said:
I have an unlocked Sprint variant that I flashed to Verizon and use with Straight talk Verizon. The only issue is that so far whenever an update comes in I have to back up all the things I want to save and flash the updated flashall, because the automatic updater just keeps on failing. I don't know if this matters, but I'm bootloader unlocked (had to for sim unlock) but without TWRP or root. It's possible that if I would try relocking the bootloader that the automatic update process would work. I briefly had a Mint sim in there (T-mobile) and everything seemed to work. I didn't really try things out with the Sprint rom, but as I remember everything worked, I just didn't like the icon style plus always having a notification saying something about a non Sprint sim card
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Was it officially unlocked or was a modified file flashed to your phone? If you had a third party service unlock, then the hash check for that partition is incorrect and that's why updates fail.

I had a third party unlock it. Actually, it was the guy that people on this forum have talked about.

Will this work on Verizon? My tmo z2 was unlocked by TMobile not a third party

No it doesn't work... You can get data but that's it..

Uzephi said:
The only different thing on the US phone's is the oem partition. Everything else hardware and software are very similar to the point I want to say identical. (Obviously, some slight changes in /system and stuff but that's with the territory of using OEM ROMs). I have flashed a T-Mobile flashall and it worked. I flashed back to Sprint shortly after. I did it for science.
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Hi- I am wondering about being able to buy a new-in-the-box z2 Force that was originally sold for Sprint, and being able to flash the T-mobile firmware to it for use with them. Is this possible? I have done this for Galaxy S8/S9 phones, but there is a deal right now where I can get this phone with 2 of the mods for dirt cheap, but it won't really matter if I can't do the conversion. Any advice?

Unlocked vs Tmobile/Flashing Carrier

I'm curious as to what doesn't work when you purchase an unlocked version vs Tmobile branded? Im told you may have issues with wifi calling/rcs/video calling/and visual voice mail....
2. How easy would it be once you get the unlocked version to flash the carrier software to make everything work and then flash back to original if needed to be for resale or warranty
The reason im asking is that samsung is giving a bigger refund on the unlocked version...

antawnm26 said:
I'm curious as to what doesn't work when you purchase an unlocked version vs Tmobile branded? Im told you may have issues with wifi calling/rcs/video calling/and visual voice mail....
2. How easy would it be once you get the unlocked version to flash the carrier software to make everything work and then flash back to original if needed to be for resale or warranty
The reason im asking is that samsung is giving a bigger refund on the unlocked version...
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If you live in the US I think the unlocked version is just a SIM unlock. I think it is still the snapdragon version. Which means it will not be bootloader unlocked. I think you have to get the exynos version from an online retailer.

antawnm26 said:
I'm curious as to what doesn't work when you purchase an unlocked version vs Tmobile branded? Im told you may have issues with wifi calling/rcs/video calling/and visual voice mail....
2. How easy would it be once you get the unlocked version to flash the carrier software to make everything work and then flash back to original if needed to be for resale or warranty
The reason im asking is that samsung is giving a bigger refund on the unlocked version...
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Note 9 was able to do this and I did it. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't be able o do it in Note 10+ once carrier firmware become available to be downloaded.

I pre-ordered the unlocked version myself and I have AT&T so it should be as easy as waiting for the carrier firmwares to become available on SamMobile and flashing with Odin. My interest is now with DeX supported with microsoft if Odin is even neccessary to flash firmwares anymore?

from what i can see on sprint i think they are using the qualcomm chip, i could be wrong, its labeled as SDM 855 Octa-Core SDR8150 and when searching that in google qualcomm documentation on the 855 pops up

Very curious about this myself. I preordered the unlocked version because that gave me more value for my trade in. I'm curious if I get the unlocked version and flash TMobile carrier software. Will I then get tmobile updates ota?

It's been the same for years now, hardware wise phones are the same, you'll need princey odin to flash unlocked/carrier firmwares. I buy unlocked and flash the carrier unlocked firmware. No bloat but it has the carrier specific radio. I prefer the native caller Id, no bloat, and the RTT over the carrier bloat and video calling. Google duo is better anyway

black96ss said:
It's been the same for years now, hardware wise phones are the same, you'll need princey odin to flash unlocked/carrier firmwares. I buy unlocked and flash the carrier unlocked firmware. No bloat but it has the carrier specific radio. I prefer the native caller Id, no bloat, and the RTT over the carrier bloat and video calling. Google duo is better anyway
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Are you TMO or ATT? I have accounts with both.
I know WiFi Calling, which is what I really need as far as carrier goes, is usually more difficult with ATT.
If you are TMO can you get WFC to work without flashing carrier?
How long do you usually have to wait for the carrier firmware to come out?

jcrompton said:
Are you TMO or ATT? I have accounts with both.
I know WiFi Calling, which is what I really need as far as carrier goes, is usually more difficult with ATT.
If you are TMO can you get WFC to work without flashing carrier?
How long do you usually have to wait for the carrier firmware to come out?
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Wifi calling has no issues on unlocked firmware with tmo. At&t I'm not sure but if you flash the att csc and and cp files, I do believe that's all it takes. I believe you need to flash the at&T AP file.

My Note 9 is unlocked. Using on T-MOBILE with no issues with WiFi calling. I am not able to use the stock visual voicemail though which I would prefer. With T-MOBILE I'm forced to use their visual voicemail which really sucks. Does anyone else know if they're is a way to use the stock visual voicemail on T-Mobile?

MrAwesome75 said:
My Note 9 is unlocked. Using on T-MOBILE with no issues with WiFi calling. I am not able to use the stock visual voicemail though which I would prefer. With T-MOBILE I'm forced to use their visual voicemail which really sucks. Does anyone else know if they're is a way to use the stock visual voicemail on T-Mobile?
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I saw posts that allow you to do that if you flash carrier firmware
I just use Google Voice and forward unanswered calls to there

jcrompton said:
I saw posts that allow you to do that if you flash carrier firmware
I just use Google Voice and forward unanswered calls to there
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When I inserted my SIM it appeared to automatically install the T-Mo firmware, but that's the problem.; it forces me to use the T-Mo VM (which absolutely sucks) and not able to use the Samsung VM which is pretty nice. I had previously used the Note 9 on Verizon with my work SIM and I was able to use the stock VM. When I switched to T-Mo it forced me to use the T-Mo VM. I can't see a way to get back to the stock VM unless I'm missing something...

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When I inserted my SIM it appeared to automatically install the T-Mo firmware, but that's the problem.; it forces me to use the T-Mo VM (which absolutely sucks) and not able to use the Samsung VM which is pretty nice. I had previously used the Note 9 on Verizon with my work SIM and I was able to use the stock VM. When I switched to T-Mo it forced me to use the T-Mo VM. I can't see a way to get back to the stock VM unless I'm missing something...
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I go into the phone app call or SIM settings and find the call forwarding settings:
Then I do they conditional forwarding to my Google Voice number (I then, after setting up Google Voice, turn on Do Not Disturb for Google Voice, so I don't get there phone ringing twice)
Then GV serves as my VM

freebee269 said:
If you live in the US I think the unlocked version is just a SIM unlock. I think it is still the snapdragon version. Which means it will not be bootloader unlocked. I think you have to get the exynos version from an online retailer.
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^^ What he said. Do not make the mistakes I, and many others made in the past - do NOT buy a US version from T-Mo, or from Samsung USA website, unlocked or otherwise. All USA versions are snapdragon based, and will have permanently locked bootloader - no rom flashing of any kind, no custom recoveries or improved radios. What you need is SM-N975F/DS Exynos version (unless you use CDMA carrier like Verizon or Sprint). It will have the same bands supported as Snapdragon one, with the exception of band 71, which you dont really need. T-Mo's B12 serves the same function as B71 (extended range LTE), and T-Mo made the tech available only in limited number of cities anyway. In all likelihood, by the time they roll it out in your city - you're gonna be thinking about buying Note 12 or 13.
Don't worry about software features like voice calling or any other - with all the custom roms and development available for Exynos version you'll be able to find yourself a rom that has any features you like and then some.

Apo11on said:
^^ What he said. Do not make the mistakes I, and many others made in the past - do NOT buy a US version from T-Mo, or from Samsung USA website, unlocked or otherwise. All USA versions are snapdragon based, and will have permanently locked bootloader - no rom flashing of any kind, no custom recoveries or improved radios. What you need is SM-N975F/DS Exynos version (unless you use CDMA carrier like Verizon or Sprint). It will have the same bands supported as Snapdragon one, with the exception of band 71, which you dont really need. T-Mo's B12 serves the same function as B71 (extended range LTE), and T-Mo made the tech available only in limited number of cities anyway. In all likelihood, by the time they roll it out in your city - you're gonna be thinking about buying Note 12 or 13.
Don't worry about software features like voice calling or any other - with all the custom roms and development available for Exynos version you'll be able to find yourself a rom that has any features you like and then some.
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This is great advice ..... IF ..... you are looking to root and/ or do custom ROMs. But having done every release S9+/Note9/S10+ with Exynos it's NOT always that easy to get the CSC stuff right and working (and the development is often done by people who could care less about NA CSC because they don't live there).
Root / Unlocked bootloader = the Exynos device, like you said.
So what appears to be the answer (for the thread, assuming no root) after looking at all the answers in this and a couple of other threads is that the Unlocked US Samsung device is the same (or can, in worst case scenario, by Odin flashing carrier firmware, be made to do) device functionally as the carrier devices --- calling features, etc.
For me, the difference was going to be $300 bigger discount.

Apo11on said:
^^ What he said. Do not make the mistakes I, and many others made in the past - do NOT buy a US version from T-Mo, or from Samsung USA website, unlocked or otherwise. All USA versions are snapdragon based, and will have permanently locked bootloader - no rom flashing of any kind, no custom recoveries or improved radios. What you need is SM-N975F/DS Exynos version (unless you use CDMA carrier like Verizon or Sprint). It will have the same bands supported as Snapdragon one, with the exception of band 71, which you dont really need. T-Mo's B12 serves the same function as B71 (extended range LTE), and T-Mo made the tech available only in limited number of cities anyway. In all likelihood, by the time they roll it out in your city - you're gonna be thinking about buying Note 12 or 13.
Don't worry about software features like voice calling or any other - with all the custom roms and development available for Exynos version you'll be able to find yourself a rom that has any features you like and then some.
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That's only true if you want to unlock the bootloader and root. The OP was merely asking about flashing carrier firmware on the US Unlocked version, which does not require root or an unlocked bootloader.

jcrompton said:
This is great advice ..... IF ..... you are looking to root and/ or do custom ROMs. But having done every release S9+/Note9/S10+ with Exynos it's NOT always that easy to get the CSC stuff right and working (and the development is often done by people who could care less about NA CSC because they don't live there).
Root / Unlocked bootloader = the Exynos device, like you said.
So what appears to be the answer (for the thread, assuming no root) after looking at all the answers in this and a couple of other threads is that the Unlocked US Samsung device is the same (or can, in worst case scenario, by Odin flashing carrier firmware, be made to do) device functionally as the carrier devices --- calling features, etc.
For me, the difference was going to be $300 bigger discount.
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the bigger trade in value was a deciding factor as well for me...Well we weill see how it goes on the 23rd

I want to be able to root and flash TWRP on my Note 10+, but when i did this on my Note 8 i bought the N950N which was the korean exynos version and CRC support for t-mobile sucked ass, i want to make sure
A) what model do i buy for
- Rooting and stuff
- and best t-mobile network compatibility without going through all the dumb stuff

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the bigger trade in value was a deciding factor as well for me...Well we weill see how it goes on the 23rd
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Same here. When Samsung stopped hobbling the OS, and added more features I didn't need root anymore. The extra $300 was my deciding factor. I have the unlocked Note 9. The only thing I have noticed aside from slower updates is that the camera sound can't be turned off independent of the global phone sound. Everything else works fine and I haven't noticed anything useful missing.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
That's only true if you want to unlock the bootloader and root. The OP was merely asking about flashing carrier firmware on the US Unlocked version, which does not require root or an unlocked bootloader.
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I was actually giving advice to all folk, considering purchasing, not just the OP....Also, just curious - how do you Samsung's locked bootloader on the unlocked Note (I hope you know 'unlocked' means SIM unlocked only) will accept firmware, signed by T-Mobile? It's not a given Samsung original bootloader, untainted by carrier branded modifications, accepts carrier signed ROMs. You may need to be using T-Mobile version of the bootloader, for it to accept T-Mobile signed images.

Unlocked S20+ on Verizon

Anybody have a S10 series on Verizon answer a couple questions for me?
I would like to confirm if or not bot Mobile Hotspot and MMS message work properly.
and any other quirks and besides the benefits of no belote ware, I'm planning on getting a S20+ but the Verizon version is $300 more than unlocked and I don't need or want Wi-Fi calling.
Thanks in advance

Curious if there is really an advantage to unlocked vs carrier in this case beyond ease of resale?

XRSTOY1 said:
Anybody have a S10 series on Verizon answer a couple questions for me?
I would like to confirm if or not bot Mobile Hotspot and MMS message work properly.
and any other quirks and besides the benefits of no belote ware, I'm planning on getting a S20+ but the Verizon version is $300 more than unlocked and I don't need or want Wi-Fi calling.
Thanks in advance
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I've had both an Unlocked S10+ and a Verizon S10 (running Unlocked Firmware) on Verizon. Mobile Hotspot/MMS works on both, along with all other Advanced Features (including Wi-Fi calling/etc).

Thanks that's what I wanted to hear.
Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Had a similar problem on my S8 with att, flashed the att stock firmware through Odin and volte, and wifi calling worked. I have since changed over to the stock unlocked firmware to send in my phone for trade in and it doesn't work anymore. I order the unlocked 20+ as well do I'm hoping just flashing whatever carrier branded firmware for it works again.

Unlocked Version on T-Mobile and Wifi Calling

Will the unlocked S20 Ultra work with Tmobile Wifi calling?

Hi,
Not sure but here's my history:
Bought an unlocked S9Plus from Samsung, had issues with WiFi calling on tmobile, never got it working.
So when S10 Plus came out I bought the Tmobile version from Samsung, everything works great.
So I just ordered the s20Plus from Samsung but the Tmobile version to make sure all is well with WiFi
and Tmobile's 5G systems. After a month or so I call Tmobile and get it unlocked, so no problem there.
Just safer to get all the Tmobile crap on there to be safe, also no issues with voicemail to text app either.
Ken

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Will the unlocked S20 Ultra work with Tmobile Wifi calling?
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WIFI calling may not work I've been told. I just ordered a S20 + unlocked that I plan to use on Verizon. I would have gotten the carrier specific except I am buying it out right and would only get $300 trade in on my S10+ unless I used Verizon financing.
I refuse to do that so I went with the unlocked and got my $600 trade in. If I have bad problems I can always send it back and get the branded one.
My concern wasn't WIFI calling or VoLTE I had to make sure Mobile hotspot and MMS will work and I have been told they will.
I don't use the other features, so they don't matter to me.

So I have the unlocked S10 I use on TMobile work's beautiful and the s20 should as well I can even use wifi calling like you questioned which I hope carries over as well but I'm assuming it should I'll know in about 4-5 days

yeah every unlocked phone I have used on Tmobile wifi Volte has always worked, that`s why I stick with Tmobile, ATT sucked for unlocked phones....... except for the pixels, anything else wifi calling and VOLTE would`nt work.

As soon as I put my t-mobile sim in my U1 it re-starts and installs wifi calling feature. Just confirming it does work

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Working fine on my S20+

Wi-Fi calling usually works on the unlocked Samsung phones, it's the in-dialer video calling that doesn't. Also, T-Mobile's implementation of RCS in the messages app doesn't work with the unlocked phones. It's usually very easy to flash the T-Mobile firmware using Odin on the unlocked model. That way you get all the carrier specific features. Make sure to boot your phone on the unlocked firmware (with the TMO SIM inserted) before you flash over to the carrier specific firmware. It's known to cause issues if you don't.

effortless said:
Wi-Fi calling usually works on the unlocked Samsung phones, it's the in-dialer video calling that doesn't. Also, T-Mobile's implementation of RCS in the messages app doesn't work with the unlocked phones. It's usually very easy to flash the T-Mobile firmware using Odin on the unlocked model. That way you get all the carrier specific features. Make sure to boot your phone on the unlocked firmware (with the TMO SIM inserted) before you flash over to the carrier specific firmware. It's known to cause issues if you don't.
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Do you know if the same thing works for Verizon? In other words, can an unlocked Galaxy S20 be flashed with Verizon firmware in order to enjoy any Verizon specific features, but still enjoy being bootloader unlocked and rooted?

cognitivedissonance said:
Do you know if the same thing works for Verizon? In other words, can an unlocked Galaxy S20 be flashed with Verizon firmware in order to enjoy any Verizon specific features, but still enjoy being bootloader unlocked and rooted?
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You can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted since Samsung does not allow you to unlock the bootloader in the US for any carrier. If you're referring to Exynos phones, you can't flash those with the US (unlocked or carrier) firmware. For US phones, you can only flash the US unlocked to any of the US carrier firmware or the carrier phones to the US unlocked firmware.
You can find the firmware here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...g986u-g986u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054629

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Wi-Fi calling usually works on the unlocked Samsung phones, it's the in-dialer video calling that doesn't. Also, T-Mobile's implementation of RCS in the messages app doesn't work with the unlocked phones. It's usually very easy to flash the T-Mobile firmware using Odin on the unlocked model. That way you get all the carrier specific features. Make sure to boot your phone on the unlocked firmware (with the TMO SIM inserted) before you flash over to the carrier specific firmware. It's known to cause issues if you don't.
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I heard about this was thinking if I could flash T-Mobile on the unlocked version will it remain unlocked? Or should I just use Google messages RCS

Franzferdinan51 said:
I heard about this was thinking if I could flash T-Mobile on the unlocked version will it remain unlocked? Or should I just use Google messages RCS
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It's a very easy process and it will not "lock" your phone. You can flash back and forth with no issues.
T-Mobile RCS shows users who are on with a blue dot next to the contact name. It is also different than the Google RCS. If you want to use Google RCS, then everyone you message also needs to use Google Messages in order to take advantage of it. It's up to you if you choose to do it, but if you use T-Mobile and your friends and family do too, it might be worth it.
EDIT: Also if your phone is carrier SIM locked, flashing an unlocked firmware will not unlock it for use on other carriers.

Using Samsung Galaxy S8/S9 in USA (Verizon firmware) with an AT&T MVNO (UNREAL) after 3g shutdown

I have searched for hours without any luck. I have been with an AT&T MVNO (Unreal mobile) for two years. During the 3g shutdown I was unable to use VOLTE on my S8 (VERIZON FIRMWARE). I found out the only way to use my S8 on UNREAL was to have AT&T firmware. I spent countless hours trying to flash ATT firware onto the Verizon S8, but I was unable to do it by flashing, but I found another way. I put a TMOBILE SIM in my S8 and it automatically loaded the TMOBILE firmware. Once the S8 was booted up I was able to run a USSD code (*#272*IMEI#) through the dialer which allowed me to switch to ATT firmware! Problem solved!!!! But a few months later my S8 was lost and I got a S9 (Verizon Firmware). I tried the same method as I used on the S8, but it doesn't work. When I put a T-mobile sim in the S9 it does not automatically change the firmware like the S8 did. From the Verizon dialer on both the S8 and the S9 it will NOT ALLOW USSD codes. Does anyone know if there is a way to run the USSD code (*#272*IMEI#) on the Verizon S9? Does anyone know why the Verizon S9 doesn't automatically change to T-Mobile after inserting a T-Mobile sim? Are there any other sims I can insert in the S9 to change the Verizon firmware in order to run USSD codes? Flashing my S9 is not an option for me because I must be too stupid. Anyhow thanks for your help!!!!

Seem's you+I have similar problem! I have s9 verizon unlocked,but I am with consumer cellular. They went to 4g recently now no call or recieve call! They gave me new sim, still not working! Told me shorter mobile wavelength from tower's! Last update on this phone was 2018? Won't update normal procedure! Wondering since this is U.S.A version if any way to update to 4 g? I'm fine on micro-soldering but when it come's to tech,a little to old I guess!!Lol Any help appreciated!

bluegate1648 said:
I have searched for hours without any luck. I have been with an AT&T MVNO (Unreal mobile) for two years. During the 3g shutdown I was unable to use VOLTE on my S8 (VERIZON FIRMWARE). I found out the only way to use my S8 on UNREAL was to have AT&T firmware. I spent countless hours trying to flash ATT firware onto the Verizon S8, but I was unable to do it by flashing, but I found another way. I put a TMOBILE SIM in my S8 and it automatically loaded the TMOBILE firmware. Once the S8 was booted up I was able to run a USSD code (*#272*IMEI#) through the dialer which allowed me to switch to ATT firmware! Problem solved!!!! But a few months later my S8 was lost and I got a S9 (Verizon Firmware). I tried the same method as I used on the S8, but it doesn't work. When I put a T-mobile sim in the S9 it does not automatically change the firmware like the S8 did. From the Verizon dialer on both the S8 and the S9 it will NOT ALLOW USSD codes. Does anyone know if there is a way to run the USSD code (*#272*IMEI#) on the Verizon S9? Does anyone know why the Verizon S9 doesn't automatically change to T-Mobile after inserting a T-Mobile sim? Are there any other sims I can insert in the S9 to change the Verizon firmware in order to run USSD codes? Flashing my S9 is not an option for me because I must be too stupid. Anyhow thanks for your help!!!!
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In my case I had a Verizon unlocked s9 and it turns out Verizon has bloatware that prevents many MVNO's from using VolTE. After tons of research the only solution I found was using patched ODIN to flash unbranded stock firmware in order to chance my model from a U model to a a U1 model. Now the phone works perfectly. Someone should file a lawsuit against Verizon (and ATT) for circumventing federal law on unlocked phones (technically they are unlocked but you can't use them because of their bloatware). It really is a major scam.

bluegate1648 said:
In my case I had a Verizon unlocked s9 and it turns out Verizon has bloatware that prevents many MVNO's from using VolTE. After tons of research the only solution I found was using patched ODIN to flash unbranded stock firmware in order to chance my model from a U model to a a U1 model. Now the phone works perfectly. Someone should file a lawsuit against Verizon (and ATT) for circumventing federal law on unlocked phones (technically they are unlocked but you can't use them because of their bloatware). It really is a major scam.
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Is there a trhread or anyplace that will show me the step's to achieve this! Also does this remove the Verizon bloatware ect? Thank's!