Usually I let my fire tv update it self,cause I don't really care bout something going to be broken since I have no root in there..but not anymore since the last update (5.0.5)kick in,and that messed up one of my helpful app i used..Name is mouse toggle i used for the remote..uninstall tried to put it back but can't get none of the sideload apps to work with my fire tv..anyone out there kwn which one that's working or in PC..any links please? your help would be appreciate.I'm a none root user possibly will use for that purpose as well
Ths
im using this on 5.0.5 on my rooted AFTV2, my boys non rooted stick the one with the voice controller, & my AFTV stick without the voice controller & non rooted. Works on all of them, since you have installed OS5 things have changed in the settings of Firestarter which need to be changed, ADB only works with one device at a time so you have to look in your firestarter settings? try a fresh reboot? or reintall the app again?
Ok..deanr1977 I got it all figured..i now that i root, I'm waiting for a working costume recovery so I can install a nice launcher get ridded of somes bloats..thanks for your replied though
So do you own where to get the latest ADB software so I can try to block the update?
donjan3 said:
So do you own where to get the latest ADB software so I can try to block the update?
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ADB -
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-setup-adb-and-fastboot-on-a-mac-or-windows-computer/
How to connect ADB to a Stick -
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-connect-to-a-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-via-adb/
How to block updates -
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
Commands -
adb shell
su
pm disable com.amazon.device.software.ota
exit
exit
PLEASE NOTE
On the su part be sure to select “Grant” if your Fire TV prompts you for superuser access!!!!
If this helps press that thanks button
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Does anyone know what app to use to sideload to the newly released 4k fire tv stick 3rd gen all apps have problems sending apk files to the new stick now.
Do Search for either of 2 methods:
1. Using ES File Explorer and its network function
2. Use an OTG cable so you can use a USB stick to load apps using any file manager
I've found the easiest way is install apps2fire on your phone/tablet. Install the apk you want on that - then it will upload/install directly to the stick (turn on adb in dev menu on stick) - I tjhink it might require the fire tv remote app as well. it can also copy files.also, do a voice search for "downloader" on the firestick - the challenge is typing urls.
I have an old Gen 1 firestick that has latest kodi on it and an iptv service as well as some other addons, and all works fine allbeit slow sometimes, so i upgraded to the latest and great 4k version with all it's audio spying gumf, however if i remember rightly there was a "fair" bit involved in getting to the stage to allow kodi to go on and run the add ons, is this still the case with the 4k version because all the links i have seen point to something called "Aptoide TV and this seem to allow you to run kodi and stuff like that but it also seems a gateway to other add ons and i don't want that i just to root/jailbreak the stick throw kodi on and install the addons i know i like or just instal kodi and away you go which in my simple mind means no jailbreaking is needed is it that simple nowadays?
Aptoide is just a 3rd party app store
There's two ways you can get any app onto a firestick that I use
1 - adb via pc
2 - adb via app on phone
If using option one download app to pc & also get adb set up (there's loads of guides about adb so Google that)
Enable adb on the firestick in dev options
Note down the ip address of the firestick from about device section
In a command prompt on pc type
adb connect ip_of_firestick
adb devices
adb install nameofapp.apk
For option two
Download app to phone
Download apps2fire from playstore
Enable adb on firestick in dev options
Note down firestick ip addres
Enter firestick ip address in apps2fire settings
Select arrow at top to install app
Navigate to where apk is
Note that apps2fire may fail on first connection - just connect again & it should work
Hi,
I recently bought a new Fire TV 4K that came with Version 6.2.8.1 out of the Box. It also has a Serial Number containing VM in it. According to some posts here this means, that it has some efuses blown and the USB Download Mode disabled in its bootrom, which makes it impossible right now to root or downgrade it.
The reason I need to downgrade is that I need to automate some tasks on the Fire TV for example with tasker. For exmaple I need the Fire TV to switch the Input at Boot automatically. It does this only when I press the home button. Automating this with tasker however requires the Accessibility Service, which Amazon has removed in current Versions of the Firmware. So the only solution is to root it or go back to older Firmwares, and both ways seem to have been blocked by AMazon right now.
Is this the latest information or are there solutions for this device to still root it?
And are there alternative ways to automate for example Home button press without root and Acessibility Service?
And which Fire Tv Stick can still be rooted right now even with the latest Firmware installed?
Any help would be appreciated.
According to this post, only versions with "VM190 or higher" have the fuse blown.
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 4K (mantis)
NOTE: There have been multiple reports of devices with serial numbers containing VM190 or higher being shipped with DL-Mode disabled in BROM. These devices cannot be unlocked using kamakiri. These devices do not show up at all on USB when...
forum.xda-developers.com
So maybe your unit has a s/n lower then VM190.
Yeah my Serial contains *VM081* but I bought it far later than the post you mentioned. Also that post was made before Version 6.2.8.1 was released and efuses burned, which apparently does not allow downgrading anymore. And the guy who found the exploit has not posted anymore since 2019.
My understanding is that the USB Download mode being disabled and the efuses blown are two different things.
I have not yet read any comment on wether you can root a fresh out of the box device that has Version 6.2.8.1 on it.
And additionally newer devices seem to have no USB Download mode.
Is there a way to check whether my devices efuses are blown or not? And whether my device has USB Download mode before I open and short the device. RIght now I can still send back the device, but not once I have opened it. I don't wanna find out after opening the device that I can not root it.
So before I open the Fire TV, I wanna know whether it is rootable or not. Otherwise I will send it back. I wanna know wether the rooting method does also work once the device has been updated to 6.2.8.1.
ALso it would help to know wether the efuses burning only is limted to the 4K model. In that case I could get a Lite or Version 2 of the Fire TV. Unfortunately I have not found any FAQ regarding such questions.
Spamm00r said:
My understanding is that the USB Download mode being disabled and the efuses blown are two different things.
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No, it's most likely the same thing...
Spamm00r said:
Is there a way to check whether my devices efuses are blown or not?
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Yes, you can short the stick, connect usb and watch in lsusb. It will show no sign of the stick if the efuse is gone.
You can also connect an USB TTL UART Adapter, while doing the shorting. Then the log shows you that the boot-process goes to halt.
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So before I open the Fire TV, I wanna know whether it is rootable or not. Otherwise I will send it back. I wanna know wether the rooting method does also work once the device has been updated to 6.2.8.1.
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The root/unlock method based on BR DL-Mode (via shorting), will not work on any 4k stick running 6.2.8.0 or later, regardless of the serial number.
The new Lite Stick, the new fTV Stick and the newest fTV 4K-Max Stick are also BR DL-Mode disabled.
So its game over for the current Fire TV Stick Models in regards to rooting right?!
This wouldn't be such a big issue if Amazon hadn't removed accessibility services, which dramatically reduces the use of a Fire Tv Stick.
I guess we will have to search for alternative routes. WHile it is probably still possible to root the device via eMMC hardware method, this is way too complex for me.
I have already a few ideas.
My plan now is to use a raspberry pi in conjunction with the Fire TV and issue the automation commands via adb from the raspberry pi.
All I need is issue the Home key at certain points. Everything else Tasker can already do without root and accessibility services.
Also Tasker contains ADB over WIFI Plugin, and only needs a one time issue of the adb tcp command after every boot. After taht you have a adb client running on the fire tv itself to do the rest for automation.
My plan is to let the raspberry issue this adb command at every boot of the fire tv and after that Tasker will be able to do the rest via adb WIFI.
I hope that works out.
For further reference and anyone else stumbling over these issues. Before buying a Fire TV, I wasn't aware of these issues, that for example Accessibility services have been removed and Rooting is impossible right now. So Right now I think the better option is to avoid any Fire TV and buy a Raspberry 4 and run Android TV on it. That way you already have root access and can do anything you want on it.
Spamm00r said:
So its game over for the current Fire TV Stick Models in regards to rooting right?!
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That is valid for the current methods. There is still further development, but development needs time...
So it's best if you take a look into the xda forums from time to time
Spamm00r said:
So its game over for the current Fire TV Stick Models in regards to rooting right?!
This wouldn't be such a big issue if Amazon hadn't removed accessibility services, which dramatically reduces the use of a Fire Tv Stick.
I guess we will have to search for alternative routes. WHile it is probably still possible to root the device via eMMC hardware method, this is way too complex for me.
I have already a few ideas.
My plan now is to use a raspberry pi in conjunction with the Fire TV and issue the automation commands via adb from the raspberry pi.
All I need is issue the Home key at certain points. Everything else Tasker can already do without root and accessibility services.
Also Tasker contains ADB over WIFI Plugin, and only needs a one time issue of the adb tcp command after every boot. After taht you have a adb client running on the fire tv itself to do the rest for automation.
My plan is to let the raspberry issue this adb command at every boot of the fire tv and after that Tasker will be able to do the rest via adb WIFI.
I hope that works out.
For further reference and anyone else stumbling over these issues. Before buying a Fire TV, I wasn't aware of these issues, that for example Accessibility services have been removed and Rooting is impossible right now. So Right now I think the better option is to avoid any Fire TV and buy a Raspberry 4 and run Android TV on it. That way you already have root access and can do anything you want on it.
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You don't need to issue TCP command. By default, wireless adb debugging is turned on in Fire TV stick.
Shaikh Amaan FM said:
You don't need to issue TCP command. By default, wireless adb debugging is turned on in Fire TV stick.
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But the Tasker adb function needs it or how else can I make that Tasker function work?
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But the Tasker adb function needs it or how else can I make that Tasker function work?
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You might already knew this that in normal Android mobile phones, with "adb tcpip 5555" command in PC, you start the wireless adb on port 5555 in phone. But when you enable ADB Debugging in Fire TV from it's settings, the wireless ADB Debugging is by default started, so you don't need to run that TCP command as the wireless debugging is already on and then Tasker will use it to get it's work done.
Shaikh Amaan FM said:
You might already knew this that in normal Android mobile phones, with "adb tcpip 5555" command in PC, you start the wireless adb on port 5555 in phone. But when you enable ADB Debugging in Fire TV from it's settings, the wireless ADB Debugging is by default started, so you don't need to run that TCP command as the wireless debugging is already on and then Tasker will use it to get it's work done.
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Yes I agree the adb is active one the Fire Tv Stick and you can connect to it via wifi on port 5555.
But tasker still does not work with the adb function.
How did you make it work?
According to this:
https://tasker.joaoapps.com/userguide/en/help/ah_adb_wifi.html
You need to run this comamnd everytime you reboot.
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Yes I agree the adb is active one the Fire Tv Stick and you can connect to it via wifi on port 5555.
But tasker still does not work with the adb function.
How did you make it work?
According to this:
https://tasker.joaoapps.com/userguide/en/help/ah_adb_wifi.html
You need to run this comamnd everytime you reboot.
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I am not using Tasker. But as you said above that you'll use raspberry to issue adb tcip command to the stick to turn on wireless debugging, that's not needed.
As far as I think, you'll have a profile of device boot event in Tasker and in it you'll have a ADB Wifi action which will have the button press command.
If that's the case then it should work without any issue.
In ADB WiFi action, set host to 127.0.0.1 ( Just saw that this is optional as well )
If it doesn't works let me know, I'll try installing tasker in my stick and test adb wifi in it.
How do you change volume in your volume change app without root?
Maybe I can issue the command for changing hdmi input the same way.
Shaikh Amaan FM said:
I am not using Tasker. But as you said above that you'll use raspberry to issue adb tcip command to the stick to turn on wireless debugging, that's not needed.
As far as I think, you'll have a profile of device boot event in Tasker and in it you'll have a ADB Wifi action which will have the button press command.
If that's the case then it should work without any issue.
In ADB WiFi action, set host to 127.0.0.1 ( Just saw that this is optional as well )
If it doesn't works let me know, I'll try installing tasker in my stick and test adb wifi in it.
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How do you change volume in your volume change app without root?
Maybe I can issue the command for changing hdmi input the same way.
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What's the adb command to change hdmi input?
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What's the adb command to change hdmi input?
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There is no adb command to do that diretcly, but the Fire TV switches to HDMI source, if you press home button. SO I wanna issue Home key input via adb to make it switch the HDMI source to the Fire TV Stick.
"key_home": "adb shell input keyevent 3",
As far as I know you need to have root to issue CEC COmmands diretcly. Otherwiese you ahve to make a system method do that for you.
You probably bought one with a serial number of
G4N0VM081..... which is the new blown fuse version. You need to scour ebay for serial number
G070VM190..... or lower, then follow the current rooting guide. Make sure it's BRAND NEW and never been opened or else you're SOL since used sticks have probably been updated. New rootable sticks exists. I found half dozen on ebay a few months ago.
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There is no adb command to do that diretcly, but the Fire TV switches to HDMI source, if you press home button. SO I wanna issue Home key input via adb to make it switch the HDMI source to the Fire TV Stick.
"key_home": "adb shell input keyevent 3",
As far as I know you need to have root to issue CEC COmmands diretcly. Otherwiese you ahve to make a system method do that for you.
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Ok so I just installed Tasker in my stick, tested adb wifi in it, it didn't worked. But I can develop an app which can execute provided adb command on every boot. It's night in my timezone, I'll develop that app tomorrow inshaallah.
That would be awesome.
Please keep the command to execute generic, as it may be useful to also execute other commands at boot. Let the user decide what command to execute.
Shaikh Amaan FM said:
Ok so I just installed Tasker in my stick, tested adb wifi in it, it didn't worked. But I can develop an app which can execute provided adb command on every boot. It's night in my timezone, I'll develop that app tomorrow inshaallah.
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That would be awesome.
Please keep the command to execute generic, as it may be useful to also execute other commands at boot. Let the user decide what command to execute.
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[APP][NO ROOT] ADB on Boot | Run adb commands at boot automatically
How to use? 1. Enable ADB Debugging from Fire TV settings 2. In this app, add the adb commands that you want to execute on every boot 3. Set whether you want to display a Toast message on completion of command execution 4. Test the script if...
forum.xda-developers.com
I have to correct myself about adb wifi out of tasker not working.
ADB Wifi does work depending on the app that you are using. Local ADB shell does not work, while Remote ADB Wifi app does work.
The adb plugin for tasker does not work, but the adb wifi action from Tasker itself does work right away. In my earlier tests, other apps were just blocking adb wifi and I was confused and thought tasker's adb wifi is not working. But you have to properly close the abd wifi session with a "exit" command. Also the windows adb tool freezes and has to be killed in taskmanager. That is a source of error for testing adb on fire TV.
Also the adb wifi of tasker will not accept semicolon seperated commands. Shaikh Amaan FM's tool however does. In tasker You will have to create new task for every command and only issue one command. I don't know why, but thats the result of my troubleshooting.
Also you have to make sure that Tasker is properly bought, a trial version or a not genuine version won't work, as Tasker has signature checks implemented which silently brakes plugins without any obvious error messages.
Plugins however also do not work in Macrodroid.
So best thing is to use Remote ADB Shell app or Tasker's built in adb wifi task. Thatway you can mostly work around the fact that Fire TV is locked down, has no root and has accessibility services disabled.
So this is the solution to:
Solution for no Root and no Accessibility Service on Fire TV 4K Mantis on Version 6.2.8.1
Thatway I'm able to make Fire TV switch input via tasker by issuing a home button press via adb.
That's the best thing you can do under these conditions that you can't have root on Fire TV right now.
Hey guys. I have a 2nd gen fire TV. There are 518 megabytes of 5.6 GB of storage available. The software version is fire OS 5.2.9.3(684782320). I have a memory card in the back of the fire TV, and I have moved every single app to that memory card. The thing is still almost out of storage. I have no idea where I can check to see what actually makes up all of the items that are supposedly filling this storage. All we use this for is for watching TV. If you can put pictures or anything on a fire TV we certainly do not have any of that. This has been an ongoing issue for about 3 years. I usually clear the cache and I am able to get the warning messages to go away. Last week I move more apps over to the memory card so that every single app is located on it. I cleared the apps cache. Now the warning messages are coming up more and more frequently, the fire TV is rebooting more often, and it is notably slower. The issue is getting to a point where it needs to be fixed. Since I have no idea what is taking up all of the storage, I'm kind of at a loss except to factory reset the thing, and I certainly do not want to do that. How do I see what is making up all of the storage space and how do I clear it? Do I need to download a third party app?
EDIT: I finally got some hits on this issue when I started searching more and more with. "XDA" in the Google search. I also started to get some hits on Reddit. Here is a short summary of what I have read. The culprit is on Reddit
It's a file called mbcache.db that's the problem. It's located here /data/data/com.amazon.tv.launcher/ databases/mbcache.db
Do I need to root my fire TV to be able to access directories and delete files? That's a bunch of crap. Is there a work around to access this stuff today in 2022? Last mention of this issue on any forum is a few years old.
Edit #2: ES file explorer on Amazon is $9.99/month? Are they high? What could you possibly do with ES file explorer to get $9.99 /month value unless you are a developer?
You can't access that directory without root but you can clear it to delete any accumulation of data. It's completely safe (equivalent of clear storage), just run this ADB command:
Code:
pm clear com.amazon.tv.launcher
Check your available space before and after running this command to see if that's where your space has actually gone.
You might also want to download a file manager like Total Commander (free in app store) or MiXplorer and manually check the folders to make sure you don't have any junk in your Download folder, Downloader (if you use that app) folder, or any other folders left behind by old and uninstalled apps in your main storage area.
Finnzz said:
You can't access that directory without root but you can clear it to delete any accumulation of data. It's completely safe (equivalent of clear storage), just run this ADB command:
Code:
pm clear com.amazon.tv.launcher
Check your available space before and after running this command to see if that's where your space has actually gone.
You might also want to download a file manager like Total Commander (free in app store) or MiXplorer and manually check the folders to make sure you don't have any junk in your Download folder, Downloader (if you use that app) folder, or any other folders left behind by old and uninstalled apps in your main storage area.
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Thanks for the reply. So that command will clear the mbcache.db? Does mixplorer have to be adb pushed to the firetv? I'll have to look later if it's in the app store on Amazon.
Schroeder09 said:
Thanks for the reply. So that command will clear the mbcache.db? Does mixplorer have to be adb pushed to the firetv? I'll have to look later if it's in the app store on Amazon.
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Yes the clear command deletes all the user data for the Amazon Launcher (com.amazon.tv.launcher), including any database files like mbcache.db. It's not harmful so feel free to clear whenever you like, the Launcher just rebuilds/reloads it over time.
Yes MiXplorer has to be sideloaded, it's not in the Amazon App store but Total Commander is.
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Yes the clear command deletes all the user data for the Amazon Launcher (com.amazon.tv.launcher), including any database files like mbcache.db. It's not harmful so feel free to clear whenever you like, the Launcher just rebuilds/reloads it over time.
Yes MiXplorer has to be sideloaded, it's not in the Amazon App store but Total Commander is.
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I'm going to try these as commands later tonight. I'm sure I could just look this up on Google, but is issuing commands to a firetv just like issuing them to a phone?
1.) In platform tools folder issue .\adb devices, .\adb reboot bootloader, then issue your command?
Does having mixplorer help much with this particular issue or will clearing these things require root access?
Granted I haven't had time to do deep searches, the last rooting attempts I saw online for a gen 2 firetv were a couple years old with notes that the root access wouldn't persist through a reboot.
Yes the ADB command line is the same on FireTV and Android. The easiest way to run ADB commands is to install Remote ADB Shell on an Android phone/tablet, and connect to the FireTV over WiFi.
Remote ADB Shell - Apps on Google Play
Connect to ADB running on another Android device over the network
play.google.com
If you prefer you can use a computer to connect to the command line (ADB connect <IP of FireTV>)
Having a file manager app will let you see any files that user apps downloaded, or that you uploaded. You won't be able to see system app data without root, but you can still use the clear command to delete their data.
If it's the 2nd gen Stick (Tank), there's this:
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 2nd gen (tank)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 2nd gen Fire TV Stick (tank) Current relase: amonet-tank-v1.2.2.zip NOTE: Recent reports indicate a change that disables brom DL-mode The change seems to have been introduced with devices...
forum.xda-developers.com
If it's the FireTV 2 box (Sloane):
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] FireTV 2 (sloane)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 2nd gen Fire TV (sloane) Current relase: amonet-sloane-v1.1 NOTE: This process does not require you to open your device if you're already rooted or you have TWRP. NOTE: If something goes...
forum.xda-developers.com
Finnzz said:
Yes the ADB command line is the same on FireTV and Android. The easiest way to run ADB commands is to install Remote ADB Shell on an Android phone/tablet, and connect to the FireTV over WiFi.
Remote ADB Shell - Apps on Google Play
Connect to ADB running on another Android device over the network
play.google.com
If you prefer you can use a computer to connect to the command line (ADB connect <IP of FireTV>)
Having a file manager app will let you see any files that user apps downloaded, or that you uploaded. You won't be able to see system app data without root, but you can still use the clear command to delete their data.
If it's the 2nd gen Stick (Tank), there's this:
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 2nd gen (tank)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 2nd gen Fire TV Stick (tank) Current relase: amonet-tank-v1.2.2.zip NOTE: Recent reports indicate a change that disables brom DL-mode The change seems to have been introduced with devices...
forum.xda-developers.com
If it's the FireTV 2 box (Sloane):
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] FireTV 2 (sloane)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 2nd gen Fire TV (sloane) Current relase: amonet-sloane-v1.1 NOTE: This process does not require you to open your device if you're already rooted or you have TWRP. NOTE: If something goes...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I used the above advice and issued the commands from my PC. I didn't download the app to my phone. I was able to connect with ADB over wifi. Issuing your command ( with the addition of "adb PM" or something like that added to the front) gave me a message in the PowerShell that said "successful" almost immediately upon issuing the command. However, the storage didn't change by a single MB. I then downloaded file commander on the Amazon firetv and saw all the different apps' package names. I said the same command you listed for the launcher for each of these different apps. After doing 95% of the apps the storage dropped by about 100MB.
What is there left to do? File commander lets me see all the different file says even if I can't delete a lot of them, and none of them are that large. I'm at a loss on this? There are discussions about this topic all over the internet. The only thing to do is to factory reset or root and manually delete files? That seems absurd. What was Amazon thinking? Rotting kinda defeats the point of the whole investigation anyway. I didn't wanna have to wipe the fire TV and start all over. I don't have all that time. For $100-$130 I'll just get the Amazon cube TV thing. Are these gen 2 fire tvs really this unserviceable?
If you open a shell prompt you will get more output, in case there are any errors running a command. But it sounds like it ran fine.
Code:
ADB connect <fireTV IP address>
ADB shell
Now you should be at the FireTV's shell prompt.
Check your user storage
Code:
cd /sdcard
du -hs */ | sort -nr | head
This will list all your user folders and their size and give you an idea if there is any trash you can delete.
The other primary area that uses up space is /data/data where app data and cache is stored but you can't traverse that directory without root. So I'm not sure how you can see how much space is being used by system apps there.
Factory reset of course is an option.
It's getting harder to run a device on 8GB, as apps themselves grow in size as well as their cache and storage requirements.
My personal bias is that the 2nd gen Cube for $60 on sale is still the best bang for your buck. It comes with 12.9GB of usable space vs 5.6GB on the sticks. And is the fastest AndroidTV (FireOS) box you can get at that price and that can stream from all the major streaming apps.