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Turning Off Enable superuser in SuperSU

Just wondering if anyone has toggled Enable superuser off and on in SuperSU and whether there were any issues. I have a couple of apps that check for root and will not run if detected. In the past (ran rooted S3s for the past 3.5 years), I have just been able to turn it off to use the apps and then turn it back on with no issues, but like everyone else am still learning the ins and outs of the Pixel. I am running a Verizon Pixel XL and a non-XL (wife's phone). Both are bootloader unlocked and rooted running NDE63P. I have not had time to update to NDE63X or install TWRP yet, not that any of hat matter to the original question.

sliding_billy said:
Just wondering if anyone has toggled Enable superuser off and on in SuperSU and whether there were any issues. I have a couple of apps that check for root and will not run if detected. In the past (ran rooted S3s for the past 3.5 years), I have just been able to turn it off to use the apps and then turn it back on with no issues, but like everyone else am still learning the ins and outs of the Pixel. I am running a Verizon Pixel XL and a non-XL (wife's phone). Both are bootloader unlocked and rooted running NDE63P. I have not had time to update to NDE63X or install TWRP yet, not that any of hat matter to the original question.
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Are you running a custom kernel?
The reason I ask is because I havent tried the method you mentioned but if it turns out it doesnt work for you, I would suggest flashing(reflashing) a custom kernel because that will knock out root, then boot back into the bootloader and boot to root again.
On second thought I think I missed your intent though, Im thinking more in terms of like Snapchat which checks for root only at login (so if you logged in before rooting you will continue to be good after) as opposed to apps that check every time the app is ran. Disregard if this is not helpful.
I want to say the unroot option in the app didn't work but that may have only been for the earlier releases that were pixel compatible.

pcriz said:
Are you running a custom kernel?
The reason I ask is because I havent tried the method you mentioned but if it turns out it doesnt work for you, I would suggest flashing(reflashing) a custom kernel because that will knock out root, then boot back into the bootloader and boot to root again.
On second thought I think I missed your intent though, Im thinking more in terms of like Snapchat which checks for root only at login (so if you logged in before rooting you will continue to be good after) as opposed to apps that check every time the app is ran. Disregard if this is not helpful.
I want to say the unroot option in the app didn't work but that may have only been for the earlier releases that were pixel compatible.
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Your are correct in your second thought. Not a Snapchat type issue, but a check each time the app runs. FWIW though , not a custom kernel but I laughed at the thought of flashing one and re-rooting each time I needed to run the apps in question

sliding_billy said:
Your are correct in your second thought. Not a Snapchat type issue, but a check each time the app runs. FWIW though , not a custom kernel but I laughed at the thought of flashing one and re-rooting each time I needed to run the apps in question
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I'll say though if that ends up being the path you take, to unroot and root, you should look into TWRP because at least that way you won't need a computer to fastboot the boot-to-root.img, you can just flash the SU zip.

pcriz said:
I'll say though if that ends up being the path you take, to unroot and root, you should look into TWRP because at least that way you won't need a computer to fastboot the boot-to-root.img, you can just flash the SU zip.
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Oh yeah. I have been using TWRP for many years. Just waiting for the dust to settle a little on the process of getting from where I am now to using TWRP and finding a suitable custom ROM with a current base.

sliding_billy said:
Oh yeah. I have been using TWRP for many years. Just waiting for the dust to settle a little on the process of getting from where I am now to using TWRP and finding a suitable custom ROM with a current base.
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I can't see the initial process of loading it changing. Right now there are issues with restoring but if you don't make a back up it won't affect a thing but it will make flashing mods and updates to the TWRP easier.
Aside from using a tool kit, installing it seems to be spot on so long as all the steps are followed.
So once a stable build comes out I will simply flash in the TWRP I currently have.

Root & Rom Advice from the Ground Up

I need some help and I've looked all over but the information is fragmented and there is too many unfamiliar acronyms used which make it incredibly difficult for some like myself to catch up. So for the benefit of others who may be new I wanted to get some additional guidance.
I got the Pixel XL Google Version
Objectives:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
2. Native Mobile Hotspot
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc..
4. Stay close to stock if possible, but willing to explore other options as long as security is trusted, and has good
compatibility.
5. Security is a concern, I tried a rom in the past with a Galaxy S4 and swear it had a backdoor installed in the rom.
What do you guys recommend? And how do I go about doing it?
Thank you!

If security is truly a concern you will not unlock your bootloader and root your phone.
Otherwise it all depends on which version phone you have, Verizon or Google?

1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.

mikaole said:
1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
I have the Pixel XL - Google Version
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.
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My point about security really was that it's quite possible a ROM could have a backdoor. That a side..
Root is not a big security issue for me as long as the rom is trusted etc..
Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?

jadensmith said:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
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It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc.
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FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
jadensmith said:
Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?
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While reading I got the impression that I might be able to uninstall SuperSU and use the OTA update, but that didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presume something SuperSU changed or something I did with root must have caused the update to fail. I haven't read the Magisk threads as much, yet I've seen that other SuperSU users also indicate that OTA updates no longer worked for them after rooting the phone.

alluringreality said:
It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
That didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presumed that something I did with root must have caused the update to fail to install.
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Wow thanks for the great reply! It's so refreshing!
What do you mean by root one slot?

The phone has two "slots" for Android. The basic idea is that you have two copies of Android on the phone that share the same user data. On a stock phone it's intended to allow for less noticeable updates, and it also can allow the phone to fall back to the previous software version if something goes wrong with an update. On the May update my phone did automatically switch between slots, due to what is discussed in the second link below. The first link below gives some information and additional links to discussion about the slots on these phones.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-partition-changes-and-new-fastboot-commands/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606

Is it possible to keep stock or near stock and just have root with the ability to hide root, and hotspot?
That's all I really need. What would be the best way to to do this?

unlocking bootloader and rooting.

So I just got the pixel xl 128 gb from Google because my nexus 6p had the battery issue. Just got this sucker turned on and I realized it is still on April security patch with 7.1.2. Now I am Verizon but didn't get it from a Verizon store so this should be unlockable correct? Where is the easiest method to unlock and flash twrp? I used magisk systemless on the 6p. Noticed pixel is a different beast. Can someone help me or at least guide me to the correct places since everything is so buried now with android O out and stuff. Thank you!

https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/6p-refuge-pixel-xl-mail-t3670556/page2
Refugees over here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/6p-refuge-pixel-xl-mail-t3670556/page2
You should be ok with unlocked device from Google.
Magisk method doesn't work yet on PixeXL...coming soon.
We also don't have a flashable TWRP for Oreo. Guess we have to fastboot into it.
There seem to be 2 threads in this Guide form detailing unlock/root for Oreo. Haven't figured out which one to use yet.

akenis said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/6p-refuge-pixel-xl-mail-t3670556/page2
Refugees over here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/6p-refuge-pixel-xl-mail-t3670556/page2
You should be ok with unlocked device from Google.
Magisk method doesn't work yet on PixeXL...coming soon.
We also don't have a flashable TWRP for Oreo. Guess we have to fastboot into it.
There seem to be 2 threads in this Guide form detailing unlock/root for Oreo. Haven't figured out which one to use yet.
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Ya everything is much different. I'm avoiding the update as I hope I can unlock the bootloader and root on 7.1.2 thank you though!

theDK10 said:
Ya everything is much different. I'm avoiding the update as I hope I can unlock the bootloader and root on 7.1.2 thank you though!
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Just throw the switch and then do what you want. The update has nothing to do with it.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers Legacy app

theDK10 said:
So I just got the pixel xl 128 gb from Google because my nexus 6p had the battery issue. Just got this sucker turned on and I realized it is still on April security patch with 7.1.2. Now I am Verizon but didn't get it from a Verizon store so this should be unlockable correct? Where is the easiest method to unlock and flash twrp? I used magisk systemless on the 6p. Noticed pixel is a different beast. Can someone help me or at least guide me to the correct places since everything is so buried now with android O out and stuff. Thank you!
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This guide is the easiest to follow.
I am in the same boat as you and after some researching it's fairly straight forward. Don't root or flash a kernel via fastboot, that is the outdated method, use TWRP.
Follow the guide. The biggest thing is flashing RC2. Magisk isn't working, don't even bother with it until it's updated, use SuperSU for the time being. From what I've read Magisk is close to being done.
When flashing ROMs or anything via twrp, keep an eye on which slot is active (go to reboot in twrp, it will tell you which slot is active) If you flash something and it boots back to twrp, reboot into the other slot and try restarting the system.
The biggest thing is to not mess with installing/flashing stuff when you're not around a computer you can use fastboot on. You might get stuck with a non-booting phone or not have TWRP to boot into and would need to fastboot into the RC1.img

Unroot HTC 10 to Get Oreo

Hi,
My HTC 10 is rooted, S-On, SU, boot loader unlocked, and running stock Nougat 7.0. As such, it doesn't get onlver the air {OTA}. I want OREO, and I understand that requires me to unroot. How do I unroot?
I hope to do an OTA and then reroot. If I really don't have to unroot, tell me please what to do to get OREO. My main attraction to rooting is to install AdAway.
Thanks,
Ndmand

These are what I did;
1. restore my stock rom via TWRP (which I backed-up long time ago)
2. flash back stock recovery (which I found form XDA). It will replace TWRP
3. OEM relocked
By then, I could get couple OTAs until I reach to Oreo.
After that, I went all the ways again => unlock bootloader (HtcDev) => flash latest TWRP => and so on.

Ndmand said:
Hi,
My HTC 10 is rooted, S-On, SU, boot loader unlocked, and running stock Nougat 7.0. As such, it doesn't get onlver the air {OTA}. I want OREO, and I understand that requires me to unroot. How do I unroot?
I hope to do an OTA and then reroot. If I really don't have to unroot, tell me please what to do to get OREO. My main attraction to rooting is to install AdAway.
Thanks,
Ndmand
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You really only need steps 1 and 2 from bita's post. If you don't have a stock system backup you can probably find one in the Backups thread.
Else, you can flash an ruu which will take you back fully stock but will also wipe your phone in the process.

bita said:
These are what I did;
1. restore my stock rom via TWRP (which I backed-up long time ago)
2. flash back stock recovery (which I found form XDA). It will replace TWRP
3. OEM relocked
By then, I could get couple OTAs until I reach to Oreo.
After that, I went all the ways again => unlock bootloader (HtcDev) => flash latest TWRP => and so on.
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Thank You,
This is exactly what I need. I interpret "OEM relocked" to mean that after flashing, you system was relocked, and you didn't have to separately relock your bootloader. I appreciate your help.
Ndmand

Tarima said:
You really only need steps 1 and 2 from bita's post. If you don't have a stock system backup you can probably find one in the Backups thread.
Else, you can flash an ruu which will take you back fully stock but will also wipe your phone in the process.
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Great, Thank You, Tarima,
Oddly, I was hoping you'd see my post because if the great help you have given to others. I deleted my stock backup by mistake last year.
My TWRP and Titanium backups are on an SD card, so I will remove the card to protect them during the process in case things go crazy.
I noticed that SU has an unroot button, but I guess that only covers part of the process.
Thank You,
Ndmand

Ndmand said:
Great, Thank You, Tarima,
Oddly, I was hoping you'd see my post because if the great help you have given to others. I deleted my stock backup by mistake last year.
My TWRP and Titanium backups are on an SD card, so I will remove the card to protect them during the process in case things go crazy.
I noticed that SU has an unroot button, but I guess that only covers part of the process.
Thank You,
Ndmand
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No problem. Yes, once you root with superSU, your system partition will be flagged permanently as modified even if you unroot. That's why you need to flash a virgin system backup image. This is also why I root with Magisk, as it makes taking OTA much easier. You may want to consider that as well when you root again.

I don't quite understand Magisk yet, but I will look into it. Thanks for making this doable and understandable.
Ndmand

Do a RUU and update ota , no need to relock bootloader, you will lose data if you do RUU

Which RUU is the right for the Oreo OTA?
I have installed the developer version, but I haven't received it. Also I knew that HTC had removed the OTA
Enviado desde mi HTC 10 mediante Tapatalk

oxineitor said:
Which RUU is the right for the Oreo OTA?
I have installed the developer version, but I haven't received it. Also I knew that HTC had removed the OTA
Enviado desde mi HTC 10 mediante Tapatalk
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U.S Unlocked has not yet received OTA. To go to Oreo you'll have to run the RUU.
Take the RUU posted by santod on this page:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297/page254

Newbie Here
Hi guys,
For several years now I've been getting help from you people and for that I am very appreciative. This is my first, of what I hope are many more posts.
I recently purchased a Sprint HTC 10 phone here in the Dominican Republic. It was factory unlocked already. It came with stock Oreo software. Yesterday I received an Oreo update, and this immediately locked my phone sim. I couldn't use it. Now thanks to you guys, I slept like at 1 am, but finally managed to get the phone unlocked thanks to this thread.
Now I have a problem. I'm not that of a techie guy to leave the phone rooted. Is it wise to unrooted back again? My main concern is, if I unroot the phone it will revert to having the sim lock, and that's a no go. So my question is: Do I unrooted? Can I, without damaging the phone? And if the answer is no, how do I proceed with my rooted phone to get the best out of it? I saw this video on youtube, it seems nice, but it is from 2015. Do I follow those steps or do something else to take advantage of my rooted device.
I would really appreciate your help.

Yank1llaz said:
Hi guys,
For several years now I've been getting help from you people and for that I am very appreciative. This is my first, of what I hope are many more posts.
I recently purchased a Sprint HTC 10 phone here in the Dominican Republic. It was factory unlocked already. It came with stock Oreo software. Yesterday I received an Oreo update, and this immediately locked my phone sim. I couldn't use it. Now thanks to you guys, I slept like at 1 am, but finally managed to get the phone unlocked thanks to this thread.
Now I have a problem. I'm not that of a techie guy to leave the phone rooted. Is it wise to unrooted back again? My main concern is, if I unroot the phone it will revert to having the sim lock, and that's a no go. So my question is: Do I unrooted? Can I, without damaging the phone? And if the answer is no, how do I proceed with my rooted phone to get the best out of it? I saw this video on youtube, it seems nice, but it is from 2015. Do I follow those steps or do something else to take advantage of my rooted device.
I would really appreciate your help.
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The only downside to being rooted is that you won't be able to take OTA updates any longer, or use certain apps that don't work with rooted devices (mostly banking apps). I'm almost 100% sure we won't get any more OTA updates for this phone, so unless you really need to use banking apps, I would leave the device rooted. Plus there are some nice things you can do while being rooted.
If you're rooted with Magisk you can still do all of the above.

Tarima said:
The only downside to being rooted is that you won't be able to take OTA updates any longer, or use certain apps that don't work with rooted devices (mostly banking apps). I'm almost 100% sure we won't get any more OTA updates for this phone, so unless you really need to use banking apps, I would leave the device rooted. Plus there are some nice things you can do while being rooted.
If you're rooted with Magisk you can still do all of the above.
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Thx Tarima. If so, what can I do with a rooted device? What are my inmediate options to upgrade the phone. Any ideas?

I thought you could take OTA?
I am WAY out of the info as I don't take them, but I'll search a little an come back with any findings.

andybones said:
I thought you could take OTA?
I am WAY out of the info as I don't take them, but I'll search a little an come back with any findings.
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Unless you're rooted with Magisk systemless root, you can't take OTA from a rooted state until you restore a stock system image, which I'm thinking might undo the SIM unlock procedure the OP had to do on his Sprint device.
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Yank1llaz said:
Thx Tarima. If so, what can I do with a rooted device? What are my inmediate options to upgrade the phone. Any ideas?
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That's what I was saying, there will 99% for sure be no other updates for this phone, so that's a non-issue. And if there is, you can run an RUU, return to stock, take the update, then do the sim unlock procedure again.
I do with root:
- Use Titanium Backup (great app backup app)
- Use F.lux app for blue light reduction
- Use Adaway ad blocker

Tarima said:
I do with root:
- Use Titanium Backup (great app backup app)
- Use F.lux app for blue light reduction
- Use Adaway ad blocker
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Process for those. Sorry for being such a pain in the behind.

Yank1llaz said:
Process for those. Sorry for being such a pain in the behind.
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What do you mean by "process for those"? They're apps, you just install them from the play store
Actually I think Adaway needs to be downloaded from their own site

Tarima said:
What do you mean by "process for those"? They're apps, you just install them from the play store
Actually I think Adaway needs to be downloaded from their own site
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Downloaded the one for blue light. How about the adaway one? When dowloading the files within the app, it does not allow me and reads:
"copying of host file failed"

Yank1llaz said:
Downloaded the one for blue light. How about the adaway one? When dowloading the files within the app, it does not allow me and reads:
"copying of host file failed"
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Sorry not sure about that, you'll have to ask in the appropriate forum.

How to root xiaomi mi a2 lite?

Finally bought it.
Still fresh and everything, also my first Xiaomi device.
I only ever rooted an old Samsung device and an LG device (forgot their series now, haha..).
So my goals/targets:
1. Root
2. Custom Rom (if any)
3. Unlock bootloader? If it is locked by default.
I haven't looked what OS version my device have, as I haven't booted it up. Rather finish up the rooting first before putting anything inside.
Thanks for your time!

1. Unlock the bootloader.
2. Root it.
3. No custom ROMs available unless you want to try a GSI.
For 1 & 2 go here.
For 3 go here. Really read up on how to install the GSI if you decide to go this route. There are some guides within this forum.

mn1968 said:
1. Unlock the bootloader.
2. Root it.
3. No custom ROMs available unless you want to try a GSI.
For 1 & 2 go here.
For 3 go here. Really read up on how to install the GSI if you decide to go this route. There are some guides within this forum.
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I tried following the link for 1 & 2
4. Now connect the phone with your PC via USB cable, open an administrative command prompt, move to the directory where the Android platform tools are placed and unlock the bootloader with the following command:
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
Got stuck here with "waiting for any device". Do you have any insight for this?
Edit: Nvm got it fixed.
But how do I root? Finished up everything on the thread but I'm still not rooted. The thread doesn't say anything about it either.

You have to flash magisk and install the app, then you can give root acces.

ekrezem said:
But how do I root?
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Installing Magisk gives you root.

nehuy said:
You have to flash magisk and install the app, then you can give root acces.
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Installing Magisk gives you root.
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Ah okay, it seems to be the app that I wanted to test root on being the problem of me thinking root is not there (and well, older version stating its rooted)
Helium Backup doesnt seem to work with root here. Does either of you use it and knows how to use Helium Backup with root on Mi A2 Lite? Or is the only way with Helium Backup from desktop?

I have had only used titanium backup (freeware), sorry but I don't know anything about helium.
What are you trying to recover/backup, only data or entire apps?

ekrezem said:
Ah okay, it seems to be the app that I wanted to test root on being the problem of me thinking root is not there (and well, older version stating its rooted)
Helium Backup doesnt seem to work with root here. Does either of you use it and knows how to use Helium Backup with root on Mi A2 Lite? Or is the only way with Helium Backup from desktop?
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I just got my wife a new Nokia 3.1 (Oreo 8.1) and Helium wouldn't work on it. I was able to back up her old phone running KitKat, but with Oreo on the new phone it was a no go. Neither phone could be rooted so it was disappointing that Helium couldn't do the job. It appears that Helium is not compatible with Oreo.