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[Q] Anyone Heard of any Developers?

has anyone heard of any developers that have shown interest in creating Rom's for this tab? I am very interested from the spec point of view in the 8.4, but I do not like the sense UI and would want a speedy rom for it, but it does not look like much is happening on here. I know this is a new tab, but that is a sticking point for me before buying. If not this then I think I will wait for the galaxy tab 8 (rumored), the specs on it look great as well and it will have good support from google updating the base software so I think it will have a good development forum. Any thoughts?

aawshads said:
has anyone heard of any developers that have shown interest in creating Rom's for this tab? I am very interested from the spec point of view in the 8.4, but I do not like the sense UI and would want a speedy rom for it, but it does not look like much is happening on here. I know this is a new tab, but that is a sticking point for me before buying. If not this then I think I will wait for the galaxy tab 8 (rumored), the specs on it look great as well and it will have good support from google updating the base software so I think it will have a good development forum. Any thoughts?
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We just got recovery so something should happen soon if at all. Crpalmer has Cyanogenmod 11 working on this tab. It is an expensive tablet so it will not get much interest due to the price.

nrage23 said:
We just got recovery so something should happen soon if at all. Crpalmer has Cyanogenmod 11 working on this tab. It is an expensive tablet so it will not get much interest due to the price.
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It is a darn great tablet spec wise though, it looks like it could handle anything you threw at it. I am really salivating over it, I wish I was a better coder to be able to create some roms myself.

With crpalmer's CM 11, anyone wanting to develop their own AOSP ROM, or port another, should have a relatively easy time of it, since kernel is already built.
From my Pro Tab 8.4

aawshads said:
has anyone heard of any developers that have shown interest in creating Rom's for this tab? I am very interested from the spec point of view in the 8.4, but I do not like the sense UI and would want a speedy rom for it, but it does not look like much is happening on here. I know this is a new tab, but that is a sticking point for me before buying. If not this then I think I will wait for the galaxy tab 8 (rumored), the specs on it look great as well and it will have good support from google updating the base software so I think it will have a good development forum. Any thoughts?
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I'm hoping for Android Revolution HD from @mike1986.
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[Q] Any timeframe for CM11 or AOSP suppost for this tablet?

Not sure if this has been answered already, and Im very appreciative of all devs here on XDA, but ive been holding of buying this tablet because as I love samsung's HW, touchwiz is a big nono, and such a flagship does surely deserve a CM11 or AOSP support....the question is whether work has begun or not.
Cheers and thanks y'all

A CM11 port already exists. Don't hope for anything officially of course.

aquist said:
Not sure if this has been answered already, and Im very appreciative of all devs here on XDA, but ive been holding of buying this tablet because as I love samsung's HW, touchwiz is a big nono, and such a flagship does surely deserve a CM11 or AOSP support....the question is whether work has begun or not.
Cheers and thanks y'all
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Which one? The T-700 or T-800? There's a mostly working CM ROM for the T-700, the T-800 has a port of that and most things work. I fear it's going to be a while, if ever, that we get a fully working AOSP ROM for the T-800.

brando56894 said:
Which one? The T-700 or T-800? There's a mostly working CM ROM for the T-700, the T-800 has a port of that and most things work. I fear it's going to be a while, if ever, that we get a fully working AOSP ROM for the T-800.
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any idea why? sammy's hw is usually a dream to work on and unlocking bootloaders and such was easy...what happened?

and im interested in the T-800 btw

I took a gamble on getting the 10.5 and it has been a pretty mediocre experience so far. There is an awesome AOSP Rom (which may be CM11 now) for the T700, but nothing for the T800 lately, it seems to be dead in the water. Suzook took the time to port it for us T800 users, but something he was doing was against the rules on XDA so that shut it down
Using ThunderRom now, but TouchWiz ruins the device for me. Also battery is pretty bad.
It is still an ok tablet but I am curious to see what will become of development on Samsung products since they are starting to use non Snapdragon chipsets on certian products now.

Turbojugend said:
I took a gamble on getting the 10.5 and it has been a pretty mediocre experience so far. There is an awesome AOSP Rom (which may be CM11 now) for the T700, but nothing for the T800 lately, it seems to be dead in the water. Suzook took the time to port it for us T800 users, but something he was doing was against the rules on XDA so that shut it down
Using ThunderRom now, but TouchWiz ruins the device for me. Also battery is pretty bad.
It is still an ok tablet but I am curious to see what will become of development on Samsung products since they are starting to use non Snapdragon chipsets on certian products now.
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thats the reason why im holding back. I work at an electronics store and tried the tablet a few times....the software is so bloated and all those pseudo-magazine fx stuff they got going on is def not working. I really dont like how they change the overall feel of android, like placing the apps button on the bottom right, maybe intuetive but having spent 3 yrs on a CM rom, you get used to certain stuff. Also, with all this dev in HW, and touchwiz still feeling laggy, i dont see why sammy is continuing down this path

Just run Nova launcher then. No big deal.
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Zamboney said:
Just run Nova launcher then. No big deal.
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And it's pretty obvious it's not just about the launcher. Touchwiz permeates the entire OS in a way that stinks up and clogs up EVERYTHING.
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Turbojugend said:
I took a gamble on getting the 10.5 and it has been a pretty mediocre experience so far. There is an awesome AOSP Rom (which may be CM11 now) for the T700, but nothing for the T800 lately, it seems to be dead in the water. Suzook took the time to port it for us T800 users, but something he was doing was against the rules on XDA so that shut it down
Using ThunderRom now, but TouchWiz ruins the device for me. Also battery is pretty bad.
It is still an ok tablet but I am curious to see what will become of development on Samsung products since they are starting to use non Snapdragon chipsets on certian products now.
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They have been using Exynos in the past way before they caved in to Snapdragon temporarily.
My guess is they're looking to squeeze more profits by using their own SOCs.

aquist said:
any idea why? sammy's hw is usually a dream to work on and unlocking bootloaders and such was easy...what happened?
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Apparently CM doesn't like Exynos processors, which the 10.5 has, so there aren't any official CM builds just ported ROMs. It's completely possible to get CM on the 10.5, as we've seen, we just need a dedicated and knowledgeable developer to work on getting the ROM to work 100%.

At least we have root to stop or remove the crap we don't need until an overrated or fix this and break that rom comes along....until then root, pull out what you don't want, and slap Nova on it.
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Itchiee said:
At least we have root to stop or remove the crap we don't need until an overrated or fix this and break that rom comes along....until then root, pull out what you don't want, and slap Nova on it.
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That is a crutch that gives you the placebo effect of making it way faster. Bottom line it is TouchWiz that bogs this down, so until a true AOSP or CM comes out, you won't will see a major improvement.

It looks like dev is never going to happen for this tablet.

Problems solved

I finally jumped ship and bought the
iPhone 6s and never looking back.
Please call me a troll if it makes you happy but we al strive for a lag free experience hacking at android and never fully gaining what we want even with the ported not so functional MIUI based on 4.4
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Congratulations - it's good to find a device you like. May it serve you well.

jball said:
I finally jumped ship and bought the
iPhone 6s and never looking back.
Please call me a troll if it makes you happy but we al strive for a lag free experience hacking at android and never fully gaining what we want even with the ported not so functional MIUI based on 4.4
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Good luck, have fun with no control over your device, slow hardware, dodgy build quality, poor customer service and being locked into buying the same old phone over and over for the rest of your life.
We won't miss you one little tiny bit.
OO SNOW!!
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shivadow said:
Good luck, have fun with no control over your device, slow hardware, dodgy build quality, poor customer service and being locked into buying the same old phone over and over for the rest of your life.
We won't miss you one little tiny bit.
OO SNOW!!
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I used to think the same exact way until I purchased this one,now I still have my beloved Nexus 5 and my Samsung Tab S 8.4 so I'm not completely tainted.
After owning Android for over 8 years what you mention above is exactly why I have become board with Android.
I've mentioned it before in past threads how dry and plain the Roms have become sense 5.0
No one builds from complete scratch anymore,just look at the credits,commits.
Other than stock Roms Cyanogenmod is always the base witch means out the gate your Camera and sound won't work.
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It's a matter of preference and philosophy. Most of us want an excellent experience and there are trade-offs regardless of whether you run stock or unlock/root and install custom roms or hacks. In my case T-Mobile wifi calling has recently become an essential feature because of signal strength problems in my house, so I'm pretty much confined to using T-Mobile branded stock devices. Before this I always rooted and installed roms, but I can't say I miss the added control and functionality (too much, anyway). I still prefer Android to iPhone because I feel there is more feature selectivity, but I understand the OPs position and hope his iPhone serves him well. Best of luck!

elbee222 said:
It's a matter of preference and philosophy. Most of us want an excellent experience and there are trade-offs regardless of whether you run stock or unlock/root and install custom roms or hacks. In my case T-Mobile wifi calling has recently become an essential feature because of signal strength problems in my house, so I'm pretty much confined to using T-Mobile branded stock devices. Before this I always rooted and installed roms, but I can't say I miss the added control and functionality (too much, anyway). I still prefer Android to iPhone because I feel there is more feature selectivity, but I understand the OPs position and hope his iPhone serves him well. Best of luck!
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Yes sir,the iPhone definitely lacks on overall visual appeal navigating around it's system.
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jball said:
I used to think the same exact way until I purchased this one,now I still have my beloved Nexus 5 and my Samsung Tab S 8.4 so I'm not completely tainted.
After owning Android for over 8 years what you mention above is exactly why I have become board with Android.
I've mentioned it before in past threads how dry and plain the Roms have become sense 5.0
No one builds from complete scratch anymore,just look at the credits,commits.
Other than stock Roms Cyanogenmod is always the base witch means out the gate your Camera and sound won't work.
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So whom do you think will be building roms for your iPhone? wink wink. There is nothing wrong with going with what you want, but starting this thread was really pointless.

fernandezhjr said:
So whom do you think will be building roms for your iPhone? wink wink. There is nothing wrong with going with what you want, but starting this thread was really pointless.
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Not pointless really,I found a solution to most issues and felt the need to share.
No need for Roms if it runs good out of the box or people would be hacking past just teathering and the App Store
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Thinking about buying the LG G4.. how stable are the custom roms?

So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).

Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0

Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.

As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those

Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.

Overlord Yuri said:
So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg

There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...

personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.

I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!

Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.

Overlord Yuri said:
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.

Frant1c said:
Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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+1
I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.

Overlord Yuri said:
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....

Frant1c said:
if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:

Overlord Yuri said:
I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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S4 Mini: where to (re-)start after CyanogenMod 11

I just totalled my S4 Mini (i9195). The phone is alive but the LCD is totally smashed.
Been running CyanogenMod 11 for a couple of years. Once the ROM got stable I've been really happy with the hardware and software.
My question is what to do now.
Fix the phone and just carry on with CyanogenMod 11
Fix the phone and upgrade the ROM -- what's everyone using for day-to-day use; is it LineageOS? I like CyanogenMod 11 because it's not tied to Google, PrivacyGuard and LED notifications, otherwise fairly minimal. I don't want really want to go back to the unstability I remember of the early CyanogenMod 11 milestones.
Upgrade the phone to a new one. I'm not sure one is suitable; my main criteria are small size and switchable battery, custom ROM.
I'm fairly technical but new to posting on XDA. Hoping you can help me past some of the jargon and codenames. What are people using their S4 Mini day to day (not experimenting) doing?
Thanks -- Mark

wheelsofsteel said:
I just totalled my S4 Mini (i9195). The phone is alive but the LCD is totally smashed.
Been running CyanogenMod 11 for a couple of years. Once the ROM got stable I've been really happy with the hardware and software.
My question is what to do now.
Fix the phone and just carry on with CyanogenMod 11
Fix the phone and upgrade the ROM -- what's everyone using for day-to-day use; is it LineageOS? I like CyanogenMod 11 because it's not tied to Google, PrivacyGuard and LED notifications, otherwise fairly minimal. I don't want really want to go back to the unstability I remember of the early CyanogenMod 11 milestones.
Upgrade the phone to a new one. I'm not sure one is suitable; my main criteria are small size and switchable battery, custom ROM.
I'm fairly technical but new to posting on XDA. Hoping you can help me past some of the jargon and codenames. What are people using their S4 Mini day to day (not experimenting) doing?
Thanks -- Mark
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If you are going to keep your phone it sounds like CM13 would be best for you as it is very stable and you will get much newer security patches (though it looks like Arco will not be updating it any further for now). It has Privacy Guard and you can flash a smaller Open GApps package to keep Google to a minimum .....
LinageOS is already very stable but there are a few small bugs (maybe a big one with the dialer as some people have reported in last few days having no audio on calls) as you would expect on a "TEST" ROM, but some are using for daily driver with no real problems. Maybe give it a look once it's gone "official".
It's almost impossible to get a new phone with good spec and small size now especially one that has such a great custom ROM's available.

It's almost impossible to get a new phone with good spec and small size now especially one that has such a great custom ROM's available.
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I just came across the S5 Mini.. Seems like it might be the last phone that fulfill my hardware requirements and it won't cost me much more to upgrade than to repair my current phone. Did all the S4 Mini crowd move to the S5 Mini or is there good reason to stick with the old? For example, worse support for the hardware.
Thanks for the ROM tips, I will definitely try version 13 once I have a working phone just to see. If I really don't like it I can always consider going back to 11.

wheelsofsteel said:
I just came across the S5 Mini.. Seems like it might be the last phone that fulfill my hardware requirements and it won't cost me much more to upgrade than to repair my current phone. Did all the S4 Mini crowd move to the S5 Mini or is there good reason to stick with the old? For example, worse support for the hardware.
Thanks for the ROM tips, I will definitely try version 13 once I have a working phone just to see. If I really don't like it I can always consider going back to 11.
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Yes, S5 Mini will probably be a good choice, though not as much development by the looks of it, but we S4 Mini owners have been spoilt. Don't think that many people upgraded to it, but I don't really know.

IronRoo said:
but we S4 Mini owners have been spoilt.
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Yup I think I have, and until now took it for granted that most of the phones were reverse engineered to the same level.
I made a decision and ordered the parts to repair my S4 Mini, that will be my day-to-day phone. When I get it I might spin up CM13 for a test. As for a 'new' phone that will have to wait. Thanks for the advice.

wheelsofsteel said:
Yup I think I have, and until now took it for granted that most of the phones were reverse engineered to the same level.
I made a decision and ordered the parts to repair my S4 Mini, that will be my day-to-day phone. When I get it I might spin up CM13 for a test. As for a 'new' phone that will have to wait. Thanks for the advice.
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Take the Lineage OS 14.1 build from arco68. and TWRP 3.03 from neozone75 Much more performance,longer battery life,and my s4 mini boots packed with a lot apps in under 1min. when flashed, don't miss to set the preferrred network type in Mobile radio networks- if you have no LTE contract set it to 3G . good luck for repair