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Now that I have had this tab for a month. Its now starting to act up. Browser force closing, touch screen can be difficult to navigate (too sensitive) it will often open apps when swiping through screens, and overall performance is getting really slow. I have added a memory card to free up some memory but doesn't help. So I'm wondering what the community experience for us that has had the device for awhile.
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I really like my A100 overall. Three things that are starting to kill me about it are:
1: Battery life; I've attempted to remove all/some/certain apps, turn off syncing, set sync long, turn wifi/gps off, remove "bloat", turn screen brightness low etc.. For the last two weeks I've tried a lot of different methods to save battery. Still, last night I went to sleep with it at 60-70%(on my latest method to save battery) and woke up with it completely drained. Might need to exchange it I guess.
2: Viewing angles. Thought I could deal with it no problem. However, when I use it as an e-reader (or anytime is portrait) the viewing angles make it difficult to look at the screen for extended periods of time. I have to tilt the left side back more so I don't strain my eyes.
3: Live wallpapers; Many are unusable. I have 4 widgets total and only use 3 home screens. On many of the live wallpapers I use, the swiping of screens either is very laggy, or has a very obvious delay in the time I swipe to the time the screen actually moves.
Performance has started to get slightly worse, not too bad though. I have started to get force closes on some apps and the browser. May end up returning / selling this and get something else. Pity, I really like it other than the first two annoyances..I can live without live wallpaper.
Battery life is a sore point for me as I'm sure it is for everyone. The screen isn't great, but it's not bad enough to bother me much.
I haven't had any software problems fortunately, or at least not any that aren't common with the whole Honeycomb live beta that Google has been running all year. Hopefully ICS will fix a lot on the software side.
That being said, I'm coming from a Nook Color(with a Kindle Fire also considered). Since I paid in the same price range for this($189 on Black Friday) the trade offs as compared to the Nook/KF aren't too bad and at the end of the day I do like having a full tablet with out having to turn it into an ugly hack job(I'm especially looking at you Nook Color)
For $200, I'd say I got my moneys worth, and I might even say it's worth it for the $260 BestBuy is still selling them for, but anything higher, and I'd say it'd be too much to pay for this thing. It's not a high quality tablet, the screen and battery life seal the deal on that one, but it's definitely not the worst tablet I've seen out there. It's miles better than all the cheap Chinese crap tablets, but it doesn't to much to exceed the standards of the "upper crap" brands like Archos.
I'd say the thing is worth about $250.
For now, I think 7" is the sweet spot for tablets. (I previously owned a 10.1" Asus Transformer, which had great battery life and a beautiful screen but was awkwardly big/heavy).
And that said, the A100 is the best 7" tablet currently available (including the new 7" Galaxy Tab, simply because it lacks a microSD slot. I wouldn't trade my microSD slot for 3 more hours of battery life and an IPS screen, especially if the deal added $100+ bucks to the price.)
- I give the screen a B+ (I do wish it didn't solarize from the bottom viewing angle, but it's otherwise bright and clear.)
- Real world battery life, C+ (6 hours is fine enough in practice because I charge nightly, but it'd be awesome to have 12 hours--save me from bringing the charger on short trips, etc.)
- The industrial design I don't care at all about. I have it in the phenomenal Blurex leather case, so the lame blue plastic/silver swirl thing on the back is a non-issue to me.
Really, Acer made all the right compromises. My next tablet will probably be the Transformer 3 when it comes out in a year, hopefully it'll have 300 ppi screen and will dual boot Jelly Bean and Windows 8. If Windows developers embrace ARM , I think a Transformer 3 + laptop dock will mean I'll never buy another PC.
Until tablets can replace laptops (early 2013), a cheap but fullspeed 7" is a great device.
I've had mine for about 2 weeks and I have seen some slowdown when booting up and scrolling in the app drawer from time to time but most likely due to having installed so many apps. Battery has been better for me. I have my wifi to turn off when screen is off and also have a wifi toggle widget to turn off wifi when I'm playing a game or sometimes I just turn off wifi completely when I'm not using the tablet which only drains my battery about 1-2% per hour. Overall usage I would say I get the normal 5 hour mark. Viewing angle is not much an issue for me as I always look at the tablet straight on and its much sharper than my older Samsung tab 7. The only issue I still have is the screen not being responsive or some are saying too sensitive. There's a thread on this already. I'm hoping this will be fixed via software. This is my 3rd one however since my other 2 had wifi issues. I fixed one but it still had screen touch issue so I exchanged and all 3 was the same. So far I'm happy for the $248 I purchased it for. I bring this thing everywhere i go since it fits inside my jacket pocket.
Mainly battery life is the sore point for me.
The screen is more sensitive than my iDevices but nowhere as bad as my LG Evo phone was. A bit more sensitive than the Blackberry Playbook.
Disabling the capacitive home button was a must for me. I would hit it so many times when holding it in landscape view, it drove me crazy.
The screen, I agree with everyone else about the viewing angle from the bottom not being good.
Of course, there is always room for improvement. The hardware in the PB is great, especially the screen and battery life but the software is way lacking in comparison to Android.
At $250, it is a good tablet. I wouldn't pay more for it than that.
It's the perfect size and I take it almost everywhere.
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And that said, the A100 is the best 7" tablet currently available (including the new 7" Galaxy Tab, simply because it lacks a microSD slot. I wouldn't trade my microSD slot for 3 more hours of battery life and an IPS screen, especially if the deal added $100+ bucks to the price.)
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I bought one.for my daughter and have been playing with it for 2 weeks now..Rooted it as soon as.I took it out of the box and installed a few root apps like ad free to keep her from clicking on ads.
For $250 I have to say I am pretty impressed. I have loaded it up with a bunch of educational apps as well as games. So far I have not had one force close on any app. Battery life is ok and WiFi is fastest device off same router as my dinc and t60.
I am not sure what you guys expect for 250, but if you can find any Android device that doesn't need.to be charged daily, then you aren't using it.
Just my opinion
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My thoughts exactly for the price it cant be beat. Very happy with the purchase. here is a screen cap of my a100 i never turn off wifi, this was with light usage. with regular use gaming/browsing for me I still get 8hrs.
For personal use the A100 is the perfect tablet, it easily fits in the inside pocket of a jacket, and despite complaints from others that the screen and battery life is not ideal, I think the screen is adequate and after 7 weeks I once had an empty battery. It is complete with Android 3.2, HDMI (works great as HTPC), 3.5mm audio connector, GPS, dual camera (not its strongest point), micro USB slave (missing USB host), Micro SD slot, and replacable battery. Upgrade to ICS is available next month. Moreover, it is much more affordable as similar products from its competitors.
Has anyone tried to use the tablet with it lying on any surface. Recently i discovered that with it on a bed or table lying flat the touch screen is practically unusable. Using a stylus for note taking is useless, it doesn't register every stroke and writing is broken up.
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Has anyone tried to use the tablet with it lying on any surface. Recently i discovered that with it on a bed or table lying flat the touch screen is practically unusable. Using a stylus for note taking is useless, it doesn't register every stroke and writing is broken up.
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Yeah the touchscreen has some issues. If you lightly swipe the touchscreen on the browser it will zoom in I dunno why
@qhinton:
If you must use the A100 while it's lying on a table or a bed, try turning it upside-down first. There is no backlight on the bottom edge, only on the top edge. Viewing from above the top edge, or flipping the A100 upside down and viewing from below, is much better that way. Not perfect, but better.
Another remedy is to get an easel case, so you can prop the A100 at a comfortable viewing angle.
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For personal use the A100 is the perfect tablet, it easily fits in the inside pocket of a jacket, and despite complaints from others that the screen and battery life is not ideal, I think the screen is adequate and after 7 weeks I once had an empty battery. It is complete with Android 3.2, HDMI (works great as HTPC), 3.5mm audio connector, GPS, dual camera (not its strongest point), micro USB slave (missing USB host), Micro SD slot, and replacable battery. Upgrade to ICS is available next month. Moreover, it is much more affordable as similar products from its competitors.
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It has a user replaceable battery?
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@qhinton:
If you must use the A100 while it's lying on a table or a bed, try turning it upside-down first. There is no backlight on the bottom edge, only on the top edge. Viewing from above the top edge, or flipping the A100 upside down and viewing from below, is much better that way. Not perfect, but better.
Another remedy is to get an easel case, so you can prop the A100 at a comfortable viewing angle.
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Thanks I found that trick out from using a Viewsonic GTab. What I was explaining is that the tablet needs to be grounded to work properly. So basically if your not holding it the tablet struggles with registering your gestures. Whem laying it on a bed or table the tablet touch screen would be very sporadic.
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Thanks I found that trick out from using a Viewsonic GTab. What I was explaining is that the tablet needs to be grounded to work properly. So basically if your not holding it the tablet struggles with registering your gestures. Whem laying it on a bed or table the tablet touch screen would be very sporadic.
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If you have major sensitivity issues try my fix posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347123&page=6
This has mostly fixed the issue for me, still shows up every once in a while but after doing this fix there was a huge improvement for me.
WiFi keeps turning itself off every few minutes. checked all the settings and it still does it. none of my other Android devices do this, only the Tab 7"
after two months of use.
I'm very satisfied of this tab. No "problem" at all.
Battery life: is good if used well. Obviously could be better, but with a double core and a so large display is very good. It surprises me when i play HD games for long and i see almost no change in battery life.
Wifi: signal reception is good, no problem. Connection speed at my home is almost 1Mb/sec checked on tablet.
Display and touch: angle of sight is small for a tablet, but colors and luminosity is very good. Touch screen is very very sensible but i like it. With the screen saver the touch is perfect.
Performance: I'm agree with my colleagues about the live wallpaper. Sometimes they are too slow. The computing speed of this tab is very very good. Opening apps, photos and hd video is vey fast. It's definitely a fast tab
Camera: Is good enough. I've recently bought a Galaxy S 2 with a 8mp camera and I see the difference from the 5mpx of the A100 but is still capable of very high detailed photos.
Voip and VideoCalls: I use this two features a lot since I'm often away from home and both are very good. No lag at all. Video is clear and fluid, audio too. The microphone volume is low I think, but is not a problem if you can hold it closer to you.
Handling and Style: I can bring it inside a pocket and go wherever I want. Is not heavy, it doesn't need a separate bag to be kept with you. Is the perfect size in terms of mobility. The shape is cool and can be handled easily. Maybe the back of the cover would be better completely gray or black.
No problem apart from the fact that i cannot delete bloat cuz i dunno which system app will brick if i delete em, weight since i hold it in portrait mode often, FCs, lastly screen ratio. Prefer it wider and shorter.
jay_993 said:
No problem apart from the fact that i cannot delete bloat cuz i dunno which system app will brick if i delete em, weight since i hold it in portrait mode often, FCs, lastly screen ratio. Prefer it wider and shorter.
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If you mess up you should be able to just flash any of the update.zip in the rom thread to bring those files back. You will need to reroot if were already rooted.
Hello everyone!
I just aquired this phone yesterday and so far, I am amazed with the screen it has.
Although, as soon as I plugged it into the charger, the phone began heating up quite a bunch. The upper frame of the phone is where the heat comes from, almost as if it's coming from the processor or some shorted circuitry.
It's not unbearable to the touch, but it's really close to, which got me really worried.
Is it normal to heat like that on that upper frame while charging and under simple browser load? It also heats up a lot while downloading stuff from the Google Play store, even if not plugged to the charger. Oddly enough, the phone doesn't seem to have throttled down and I didn't have any lags or something. I ran a 3D Mark test when the phone was charging and got really warm, it still scored over 17.5k.
There's a screenshot below for the temperatures I am getting, those were actually low, some of those sensors appeared over 65C earlier on.
Is it faulty hardware? Should I return the product? Could anyone help me? Any help is really appreciated!
Mine never gets that hot. Only warm, as I would describe it best.
I'd try for a return/swap before it's too late and something fries.
G4 temperature testing
Keep in mind it depends on your environment of course, but unless you're living in the depths of hell I seriously doubt 48c while doing nothing much isn't a hardware (SoC thermal) problem. I'd be pushing for a replacement, where'd you buy it from?
By the way 65c? Jesus even my Oneplus 2 didn't get that hot.
hyperfriend said:
Mine never gets that hot. Only warm, as I would describe it best.
I'd try for a return/swap before it's too late and something fries.
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Yeah, I'll probably try it. I had a Xperia Z1 before and it never gave me heating problems, not to mention the battery would last an entire day with my using and watching videos. Already talked to the seller actually and the person said she'll be waiting for me to change the phone. I don't know, really; might be me and my location, it's really hot in here. Always about 30~35C+. But I still believe the phone shouldn't get that warm when charging.
I actually made a little comparison and my modem/router reaches about the same temperature as it; that is, without any cooling, the little modem gets incredibly hot to the touch.
I actually tried a few things I read around, hard/soft resetting, trying a less juicy charger (taking in consideration the one it comes with delivers 1.8 amp), tried one with 1 amp max output, still heated...
Either way, would you mind posting a screenshot like mine with your phone after some heavy usage/gaming? That'd be really helpful! Thanks in advance for replying!
Ran Antutu, midway switched to Aida and:
Do note: phone still does not feel "hot". Warm, sure. Hot, not quite :good:
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G4 temperature testing
Keep in mind it depends on your environment of course, but unless you're living in the depths of hell I seriously doubt 48c while doing nothing much isn't a hardware (SoC thermal) problem. I'd be pushing for a replacement, where'd you buy it from?
By the way 65c? Jesus even my Oneplus 2 didn't get that hot.
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Well, that's what the sensors were showing, I don't have a good way to actually measure the temperature the hardware is reaching... Does the OP2 heats up? xD
Well, Brazil isn't really far from hell, common temperatures ranging from 35-43 during the day is...pretty close, I suppose.
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Ran Antutu, midway switched to Aida and:
Do note: phone still does not feel "hot". Warm, sure. Hot, not quite :good:
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Thank you for the reference! It's strange though, my sensors reached about the same temperature, but the phone doesn't simply feel warm... As I said earlier, it really feels like a cheap-o ADSL modem on a hot day. You can hold your hand over the screen, for an example, but it becomes uncomfortable. The sides also gets really warm. I managed to figure where most of the heat came from though, it's just at the upper-left edge of the phone, close to the frontal-facing camera.
I've had 4 different Verizon g4's now and the all did the same thing , the two I have that are newest (one a couple weeks old) and they would get so hot around the modem and CPU i couldn't touch them and if even smell the chemicals in the plastic starting to release vapors (which that's not far from actual ignition) but the newest one isn't quite as bad. They all still worked through the heat without any noticeable damage, but I still have to pop the back off while using chrome plugged or not and hold it in front of a fan. This is the weirdest damn phone I've ever seen. .so picky and requires a lots of care but setup just right with a balance of what is continuously running especially how many and what kinda persistent services and it has become a real powerful toy lol
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The LG G4 is hot because of the Snapdragon 808 processor... See the link here I started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-thermal-compound-mod-t3255074#post64038221
37 and 39 ° on bms? seriously dude, thermal throttling starts at ~45°. Your phone is absolutely normal!
Don't look at tz sensors, they are components instant temperature.
dadrumgod said:
I've had 4 different Verizon g4's now and the all did the same thing , the two I have that are newest (one a couple weeks old) and they would get so hot around the modem and CPU i couldn't touch them and if even smell the chemicals in the plastic starting to release vapors (which that's not far from actual ignition) but the newest one isn't quite as bad. They all still worked through the heat without any noticeable damage, but I still have to pop the back off while using chrome plugged or not and hold it in front of a fan. This is the weirdest damn phone I've ever seen. .so picky and requires a lots of care but setup just right with a balance of what is continuously running especially how many and what kinda persistent services and it has become a real powerful toy lol
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Oh my god, I have been doing that with mine, that's hilarious! I mean, my Xperia Z1 would get really hot with some applications, but then I'd just take it under a tap and cool it off... xD
On the other hand, I really didn't know I'd need to care so much about heat under normal usage with a flagship phone. It's sad because it becomes really uncomfortable to hold.
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The LG G4 is hot because of the Snapdragon 808 processor... See the link here I started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-thermal-compound-mod-t3255074#post64038221
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Uh...okay, I will sure check that, thanks! But the last thing I want to do is to open a damn phone just to apply thermal compound. I wouldn't mind doing that to a PC every week, but doing once for a phone is kinda sad...
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37 and 39 ° on bms? seriously dude, thermal throttling starts at ~45°. Your phone is absolutely normal!
Don't look at tz sensors, they are components instant temperature.
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I kinda figured that out, the temperature they were showing is really over the head. The problem is, the upper part of the screen feels way hotter than 40C. I also did another run with the phone while heated and it showed throttling this time. Scores from Antutu and 3D mark were about 15~20% off.
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Oh my god, I have been doing that with mine, that's hilarious! I mean, my Xperia Z1 would get really hot with some applications, but then I'd just take it under a tap and cool it off... xD
On the other hand, I really didn't know I'd need to care so much about heat under normal usage with a flagship phone. It's sad because it becomes really uncomfortable to hold.
Uh...okay, I will sure check that, thanks! But the last thing I want to do is to open a damn phone just to apply thermal compound. I wouldn't mind doing that to a PC every week, but doing once for a phone is kinda sad...
I kinda figured that out, the temperature they were showing is really over the head. The problem is, the upper part of the screen feels way hotter than 40C. I also did another run with the phone while heated and it showed throttling this time. Scores from Antutu and 3D mark were about 15~20% off.
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The Xperia Z1 runs on a Snapdragon 800, not a 808 so it's not the same. That's the reason the G4 used a 808 instead of a 810 as the 808 is throttled back. As for opening the phone, it's the easiest phone to open and you only need to do it once for the thermal interface material, G3 had heating problems too. A Smartphone is still a computer as it's a entire Unix workstation that fits in your pocket. The processor is 6 cores and is 64 bit and it's located on the top part of the screen.
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The Xperia Z1 runs on a Snapdragon 800, not a 808 so it's not the same. That's the reason the G4 used a 808 instead of a 810 as the 808 is throttled back. As for opening the phone, it's the easiest phone to open and you only need to do it once for the thermal interface material, G3 had heating problems too. A Smartphone is still a computer as it's a entire Unix workstation that fits in your pocket. The processor is 6 cores and is 64 bit and it's located on the top part of the screen.
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Yeah, I know that quite well, believe me. It still makes me a bit sad about having a phone of this kind heating like a piece of plastic you find at those cheap-o stores. I would have actually bought a Xperia Z3+, but I heard so much about the thing overheating that made me really sad.
I also found one of those travel pack kits, with a battery and a external charger, is it a good idea to get one? You know, make usage of this lovely thing that swappable battery is.
Oddly enough, my own battery seems to be lasting pretty okay, fully charged yesterday, did some gaming, watched videos on YT, installed applications and such. Still going for over 24 hours right now and it has some juice left.
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Yeah, I know that quite well, believe me. It still makes me a bit sad about having a phone of this kind heating like a piece of plastic you find at those cheap-o stores. I would have actually bought a Xperia Z3+, but I heard so much about the thing overheating that made me really sad.
I also found one of those travel pack kits, with a battery and a external charger, is it a good idea to get one? You know, make usage of this lovely thing that swappable battery is.
Oddly enough, my own battery seems to be lasting pretty okay, fully charged yesterday, did some gaming, watched videos on YT, installed applications and such. Still going for over 24 hours right now and it has some juice left.
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Remember that Sony has always been known as a quality electronics brand. LG = GoldStar... until they had flat screen tv's, GoldStar was always a low end brand. It's no different than Hyundai having their new Genesis or whatever car and trying to be in the luxury market. The brand will never be the same level as the luxury brands like Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Lexus, Infiniti if you know what I mean.
No idea about the travel pack kits as I have never seen one here, depends if it's a good value or not as the battery alone is about $US30 and you really only need the battery. If you really wanted another battery, just call the wireless carrier and claim that your battery have issues, they'll send you one for free without having to send the old one back. I have over 760 apps installed including system apps and I have to greenify everything, otherwise Google Play Store won't download and install and hangs, doesn't do it on my Motorola Xoom tablet with less memory but only happens on phones even Motorola's for some reason. I noticed if I freeze Lookout, my battery life is way longer.
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Remember that Sony has always been known as a quality electronics brand. LG = GoldStar... until they had flat screen tv's, GoldStar was always a low end brand. It's no different than Hyundai having their new Genesis or whatever car and trying to be in the luxury market. The brand will never be the same level as the luxury brands like Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Lexus, Infiniti if you know what I mean.
No idea about the travel pack kits as I have never seen one here, depends if it's a good value or not as the battery alone is about $US30 and you really only need the battery. If you really wanted another battery, just call the wireless carrier and claim that your battery have issues, they'll send you one for free without having to send the old one back. I have over 760 apps installed including system apps and I have to greenify everything, otherwise Google Play Store won't download and install and hangs, doesn't do it on my Motorola Xoom tablet with less memory but only happens on phones even Motorola's for some reason. I noticed if I freeze Lookout, my battery life is way longer.
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True about the brand thing. But I really thought LG improved a lot. With their flat-screens and phones at least. I have been using LG monitors and TVs for a while now, only issue I had was with a LCD monitor, after 5 years of usage the thing won't stay on for over 5 minutes. The monitor would reboot and freeze at the LG logo.
The carrier thing isn't a choice where I live. The phone is "unlocked", so you can use with any carrier you want. My model is also the H818, dual-sim version. And yeah, it's going really cheap here, it's about 90 BRL, which is about 23 bucks. I found it in a good retail store and the product is certainly original from LG.
I also thought about getting the brand new Xperia Z5, but it's far too expensive here and it would have a smaller screen. While the Z5 premium isn't even an option because it hasn't reached the stores yet. So, the best option I had was the LG G4. Best price, swappable battery, larger screen, great camera and the best of those was the expandable storage. I own a toshiba class 10 64 gig SD, didn't want it to go to waste with a Samsung phone. ^^
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True about the brand thing. But I really thought LG improved a lot. With their flat-screens and phones at least. I have been using LG monitors and TVs for a while now, only issue I had was with a LCD monitor, after 5 years of usage the thing won't stay on for over 5 minutes. The monitor would reboot and freeze at the LG logo.
The carrier thing isn't a choice where I live. The phone is "unlocked", so you can use with any carrier you want. My model is also the H818, dual-sim version. And yeah, it's going really cheap here, it's about 90 BRL, which is about 23 bucks. I found it in a good retail store and the product is certainly original from LG.
I also thought about getting the brand new Xperia Z5, but it's far too expensive here and it would have a smaller screen. While the Z5 premium isn't even an option because it hasn't reached the stores yet. So, the best option I had was the LG G4. Best price, swappable battery, larger screen, great camera and the best of those was the expandable storage. I own a toshiba class 10 64 gig SD, didn't want it to go to waste with a Samsung phone. ^^
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It really depends on how many of the components are made by LG. Samsung makes more of the things inside their devices. As for LG, their OLED Flat Panel displays are full of problems if you look at avsforums which results into replacing panels and even sending full refunds. Panasonic sources the LG panels and then uses their own electronics and the thing is better but the Panasonic is atleast $US10k while the LG is $US5k.
I had never seen a LG monitor until recently as I'm still on a Silicon Graphics Inc 1600SW made by Mitsubishi Industrial in Japan, this is the same display used by the big CEOs on their desks including Bill Gates.
You can use the Verizon Wireless LG G4 with any carrier you want too, it's just the data part might not be 4G LTE speeds as those are all carrier dependent. Wow, 23 bucks is cheap for a phone since wouldn't it actually be cheaper buying another G4 than the so called battery kit you mentioned? The LG G4 supposedly has better reception than even Motorola phones from what I heard so not all is bad, basically they don't put 100% into a product so they can have room to introduce better models at a later date. LOL. The LG G4 is the only phone currently that has both a replaceable battery and MicroSD slot. To me, the second one is a requirement while the first one is good to have.
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It really depends on how many of the components are made by LG. Samsung makes more of the things inside their devices. As for LG, their OLED Flat Panel displays are full of problems if you look at avsforums which results into replacing panels and even sending full refunds. Panasonic sources the LG panels and then uses their own electronics and the thing is better but the Panasonic is atleast $US10k while the LG is $US5k.
I had never seen a LG monitor until recently as I'm still on a Silicon Graphics Inc 1600SW made by Mitsubishi Industrial in Japan, this is the same display used by the big CEOs on their desks including Bill Gates.
You can use the Verizon Wireless LG G4 with any carrier you want too, it's just the data part might not be 4G LTE speeds as those are all carrier dependent. Wow, 23 bucks is cheap for a phone since wouldn't it actually be cheaper buying another G4 than the so called battery kit you mentioned? The LG G4 supposedly has better reception than even Motorola phones from what I heard so not all is bad, basically they don't put 100% into a product so they can have room to introduce better models at a later date. LOL. The LG G4 is the only phone currently that has both a replaceable battery and MicroSD slot. To me, the second one is a requirement while the first one is good to have.
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Oh, sorry my english failed me there, second language and stuff, you know? I meant the charger kit is 23 bucks in here. 90 BRL converted to USD is about 23 bucks. The phone itself costed me almost 500 USD, got the one with black leather back, damn it looks great.
There's a lot of stuff about components I didn't know. Decent monitors here such as gaming ones are really expensive. LG ones manages good image quality and are also quite cheap. There is cheaper stuff in here, but the image quality on them is really bad.
Swappable battery isn't a must for me either, it's just nice to have. Now the MicroSD slot is a must, I like carrying a lot of stuff on the phone. Music, videos, games and such. Just 32 gigs wouldn't be enough for me xD
At $US23, it's still a bargain for the charger kit. I have the black leather back as well except the thread on mines is black as I basically used shoe cream on it to condition the leather after hearing some people's leather worn off.
About all monitors are cheap compared to my SGI which was $US2,500. I actually never use the internal SD because if something happens to the phone and it won't boot, you're in trouble as I have my Titanium backups on a 200GB MicroSD card which was actually cloned from my Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx HD.
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At $US23, it's still a bargain for the charger kit. I have the black leather back as well except the thread on mines is black as I basically used shoe cream on it to condition the leather after hearing some people's leather worn off.
About all monitors are cheap compared to my SGI which was $US2,500. I actually never use the internal SD because if something happens to the phone and it won't boot, you're in trouble as I have my Titanium backups on a 200GB MicroSD card which was actually cloned from my Motorola Droid RAZR Maxx HD.
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It is really cheap indeed, just ordered one. The kit's model is BCK-4800, it comes with an extra battery, a battery case and the external charger. Really great deal!
Did not know about that thing on the leather back... I do have a simple TPU case here, I haven't been using it because the phone's temperatures. It's really odd though, today isn't so hot in here (About 25-30C most) the phone is warm but it charged really quickly, it jumped from 5% to 85% in less than an hour. xD
Either way, that sounds like a really expensive monitor...Woah...
I'm using a battery pack as I still didn't get the free promotion of the battery, battery case and leather back yet as they ran out of stock. Last email from LG on October 20, 2015 was another 4-6 weeks which has came and gone, they haven't responded to my emails either. I'm using a Ringke Fusion case except it always pulls the entire leather back off when I try to take off the case.
http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-LEATHER-Back-Absorption-Protection-Customizable/dp/B00V51QOXA
When I got my monitor, it was in 2000 so it's still alive and kicking... LOL. It's basically the 17.3" version of the Apple 22" display. SGI is the big workstation manufacturer that has 500" or larger screens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_1600SW
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I'm using a battery pack as I still didn't get the free promotion of the battery, battery case and leather back yet as they ran out of stock. Last email from LG on October 20, 2015 was another 4-6 weeks which has came and gone, they haven't responded to my emails either. I'm using a Ringke Fusion case except it always pulls the entire leather back off when I try to take off the case.
http://www.amazon.com/Compatible-LEATHER-Back-Absorption-Protection-Customizable/dp/B00V51QOXA
When I got my monitor, it was in 2000 so it's still alive and kicking... LOL. It's basically the 17.3" version of the Apple 22" display. SGI is the big workstation manufacturer that has 500" or larger screens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_1600SW
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I did a quick search on it and saw that! I am actually using a old LG CRT monitor because my old 23 inch LCD one broke.
That case looks really good, but it's not shipped to Brazil... Oh well, nothing new, really.
Hey, my iPhone decided to break on me, and I've decided to go back to Android. I've been looking at phone sizes less than 5.5" and this phone is one of them. Do you think this phone is worth it or are there any other smaller sized phones? Thanks (And ples give a phone thats atleast rootable)
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Hey, my iPhone decided to break on me, and I've decided to go back to Android. I've been looking at phone sizes less than 5.5" and this phone is one of them. Do you think this phone is worth it or are there any other smaller sized phones? Thanks (And ples give a phone thats atleast rootable)
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If you can get the 32gb one for the low $230ish prices that have been going around the last couple weeks, yes.
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I got this phone 4+ months ago after being a long time Galaxy S veteran from the first one to the sixth, and honestly the only thing I regret is the snappy response times on those phones and of course in galaxy s7 micro SD card came back too, so yea!
This phone gives you a pure Google Android experience. Whether you decide to root and/or install custom ROMs is also an option you can decide based on your needs. The Google's repository always has the latest ROM available for you to download and flash away on monthly bases if like to keep up with the updates and do a clean install of a full ROM. And about the over the air updates, if you don't like to wait for the next one to pop up some time, you can also download OTA updates from Google's repository too.
The physical build quality feels more on the cost saving side for Google and LG, and it doesn't feel as the premium phones do, but the plus side is since the back is not glass, it doesn't retain as much finger prints and stays cleaner in general. And it is light in weight.
Finger print reader works marvelously. Every single time.
Performance is good for daily use, average to low for a gamer.
Battery lasts about a day for my daily activities, if I'm on a plane or use it 5-6 hours straight (heavy use with Internet and screen brightness cranked up) I would charged twice a day.
The charging port/data port is USB type C. I had a wtf moment when I opened box and saw both sides of the charging cable having the same type of interface, but oh well. I finally bought a couple of cables for car charges, and computer.
Wifi connection is not snappy. On 2.4 GHz it lags and the ping times vary. 5 GHz connection is more reliable. I've tried using 3 different routers (airport extreme, Linksys ea8500, and a stock Xfinity router) and I've had the same experience. Not a big fan of this part as I've flashed the latest ROM onto this thing just to have a fresh clean install and got the same wifi results.
The screen is HD quality on the medium side (not 4k or retina quality for you coming over from I products) and you can check out the specs too. It is OK.
I'm happy with it in general, so do I wish I waited for the S7, yes, but you can't beat the good price on Nexus 5x either.
It is really a personal choice, but here are a few things I'd to say. It is a trade-off like everything else you buy, but I in general like it.
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Commodore 64 said:
I got this phone 4+ months ago after being a long time Galaxy S veteran from the first one to the sixth, and honestly the only thing I regret is the snappy response times on those phones and of course in galaxy s7 micro SD card came back too, so yea!
This phone gives you a pure Google Android experience. Whether you decide to root and/or install custom ROMs is also an option you can decide based on your needs. The Google's repository always has the latest ROM available for you to download and flash away on monthly bases if like to keep up with the updates and do a clean install of a full ROM. And about the over the air updates, if you don't like to wait for the next one to pop up some time, you can also download OTA updates from Google's repository too.
The physical build quality feels more on the cost saving side for Google and LG, and it doesn't feel as the premium phones do, but the plus side is since the back is not glass, it doesn't retain as much finger prints and stays cleaner in general. And it is light in weight.
Finger print reader works marvelously. Every single time.
Performance is good for daily use, average to low for a gamer.
Battery lasts about a day for my daily activities, if I'm on a plane or use it 5-6 hours straight (heavy use with Internet and screen brightness cranked up) I would charged twice a day.
The charging port/data port is USB type C. I had a wtf moment when I opened box and saw both sides of the charging cable having the same type of interface, but oh well. I finally bought a couple of cables for car charges, and computer.
Wifi connection is not snappy. On 2.4 GHz it lags and the ping times vary. 5 GHz connection is more reliable. I've tried using 3 different routers (airport extreme, Linksys ea8500, and a stock Xfinity router) and I've had the same experience. Not a big fan of this part as I've flashed the latest ROM onto this thing just to have a fresh clean install and got the same wifi results.
The screen is HD quality on the medium side (not 4k or retina quality for you coming over from I products) and you can check out the specs too. It is OK.
I'm happy with it in general, so do I wish I waited for the S7, yes, but you can't beat the good price on Nexus 5x either.
It is really a personal choice, but here are a few things I'd to say. It is a trade-off like everything else you buy, but I in general like it.
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Wow, thanks, I'm also an ex-Samsung user. Had a lot of their flagships before I brought a 6S, but the S7 for me is asking for too much money, so I'm probably going to go for this phone. Also, how is the camera quality?
Very good photo quality. It is surprisingly good during low light photos. There is also a dedicated thread for photos taken with Nexus 5x, which I found useful when reading about this phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/excellent-camera-t3230797
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The screen is HD quality on the medium side (not 4k or retina quality for you coming over from I products) and you can check out the specs too. It is OK.
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Actually the 5x display is higher than retina quality (more pixels per inch) and also has more accurate colours than iPhone 6s as shown by Anandtech.
I think we can safely say the screen is better than what's used on the iPhone 6s and surpasses the "retina" base mark for pixel density.
I have now had my FNF Ifive Mini 4s, that i ordered from China, since March 7th (Shipping took only 14 days) so i think it is time for a review
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Key features
Android 6.0
7.85" 2048*1536 display
RK3288 Quad Core CPU at 1.8Ghz
Mail-T764 GPU
2 GB DDR3 RAM
32 GB Internal storage
4800mAh Li-Po battery
SD-Card slot
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4Ghz+5Ghz WIFI
Bluetooth 4.0
Disadvantages
Batterylife is only around 2 hours of screen on time with maximum brightness.
Bottom speakers instead of front-facing.
Design and build quality
I really like the bezels on this device. They are nice and small on the sides and a little bigger on the top and bottom. This makes using the tablet for media consumption really comfortable, since there is just enough space for your thumbs on each side of the tablet when it is tilted to the side.
The front of the tablet is all glass. The frame is made of metal and the back has glass in the top and bottom and plastic inbetween. This combined makes an overall sturdy tablet. The tablet has no flex at all when trying to bend it or press down on different spots, so this makes me confident it wont break on normal use.
The buttons are much better than on other tablets at this price point. They dont wobble too much and I am confident they wont fall out or get stuck. The MicroSD-slot works nicely and so does the 3.5mm headphone jack.
The dimentions are 230 x 169 x 7 mm.
Display and screen
The display on this tablet was what made me buy it in the first place. A 2048*1536 display on a 150 USD tablet seemed crazy, so i bought it to see for myself. The display is truly great and very enjoyable to look at, even for long periods of time. In the time I have had it, I have seen severeal movies on it and even read an e-book. Since the screen is 7.85" it has a pixel density of 326.11 PPI
Android 6.0.1
The tablet comes with stock Android 6.0.1. It comes with no bloatware at all which I appreciate alot and it is updated regularly. In the time I have had it, I have gotten 3 updates, which fixed the small amounts of problems it had when I first recieved it. The ROM runs smoothly with no stutters at all thanks to the RK3288 CPU and Mail-T764 GPU.
Camera
The camera is not that good, only 8MP in the rear and 2MP in thefront. I can not really see a use for a camera in a tablet anyway, since I think it is too big for that, so this does not matter to me.
Benchmarks
Antutu
Basemark OS II
Battery Life
When the brightness is set to max and the tablet is used normally I get around 2 hours of screen on time. When the screen is set to the minimum brightness I get around 5-6 hours of screen on time. The battery life is okay, but I think they should have made the device a little thicker and added a little more battery. With my use I have to charge it either every night or every other night.
Conclusion
I think the FNF Ifive Mini 4s definently is worth its price. It is a great tablet for watching movies and Youtube videos, browsing the internet and playing games (but dont expect a high framerate on titles like Grand Theft Auto). I would definently recommend buying this tablet. It is simply an amazing tablet concidering its price of only approximately 150 USD.
I rate it 8.5 out of 10
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EDIT: I just updated to 1.0.8-W, which should work on all devices, new as old, and this seems to boost perfomance nicely. To update, use this tutorial, but use this tool and img instead of the ones mentioned inside the tutorial Thanks to RVA84 for letting me know this in the comments.
Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle? Does it support automatic power off? Nothing more annoying than a tablet with a flat battery
Also, what do you use to protect it and stand it up? There doesn't seem to be much in the way of accessories for this tablet.
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Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle? Does it support automatic power off? Nothing more annoying than a tablet with a flat battery
Also, what do you use to protect it and stand it up? There doesn't seem to be much in the way of accessories for this tablet.
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It loses around 2-4% battery per day in idle. What do you mean by automatic power off? I do not have anything to protect it or stand it up. I usually sit with it in my hands in bed
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It loses around 2-4% battery per day in idle. What do you mean by automatic power off? I do not have anything to protect it or stand it up. I usually sit with it in my hands in bed
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Thanks. On MTK tablets and devices, there is a feature to power off the device automatically. It's usually in the settings. If it's not there, it doesn't support it.
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Thanks. On MTK tablets and devices, there is a feature to power off the device automatically. It's usually in the settings. If it's not there, it doesn't support it.
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Well, I can not find it.
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Well, I can not find it.
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Not too surprising considering it uses a rockchip SOC. Either way not a big deal, I usually use tasker to put it on flight mode at night
I just got this, and I found that when gaming on it (like the new Office Space idle game) the battery was getting destroyed in a huge way. We're not talking 2 hours of life at that point, it dropped almost 20% in about 10 minutes, crazy high usage.
I enabled dev mode and saw that the 'force gpu rendering for 2d' option was enabled, I disabled it and battery life has gone way up even when using games. I'm going to run some tests to determine the overall difference, but other than the battery life I agree this is a pretty great tablet.
I honestly still have my Nexus 7 2013 and still use it daily, but I can see myself switching to this pretty quickly.
Let me ask a follow up question to other owners:
My battery life is simply horrific, as in if I'm in a game with brightness halfway, I lose several percentage per minute in some cases, and the back gets noticeably warm to the touch. I have a few screenshots of the battery usage showing it drop from 60% to under 30% like nothing, but everything shows up as "miscellaneous", and it doesn't seem like there's any actual power consumption tracking going on. I installed a few different battery tracking apps, all of them claim to not be able to connect to whatever the Android stock service is that's necessary to calculate per app battery consumption, is that just how the 4s works or is there something actually broken on mine?
It's bad to the point that I can sit for 20 minutes using it continuously, bouncing between Clash of Clans and CATS and then have to consider plugging it in for a charge. My Nexus 7 or phone (Axon 7) go for hours with the same type of usage no problem :\
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Let me ask a follow up question to other owners:
My battery life is simply horrific, as in if I'm in a game with brightness halfway, I lose several percentage per minute in some cases, and the back gets noticeably warm to the touch. I have a few screenshots of the battery usage showing it drop from 60% to under 30% like nothing, but everything shows up as "miscellaneous", and it doesn't seem like there's any actual power consumption tracking going on. I installed a few different battery tracking apps, all of them claim to not be able to connect to whatever the Android stock service is that's necessary to calculate per app battery consumption, is that just how the 4s works or is there something actually broken on mine?
It's bad to the point that I can sit for 20 minutes using it continuously, bouncing between Clash of Clans and CATS and then have to consider plugging it in for a charge. My Nexus 7 or phone (Axon 7) go for hours with the same type of usage no problem :\
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I'm having the same problem with mine. Trying to figure out what the issue is. Just ticked off Force GPU rendering as per Sphexi's recommendation. We'll see if that helps.
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking?
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I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking?
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I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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Thanks for the review. Shame it has such poor battery life, but a battery pack should make that not so much of a problem. What is battery life like when it is sitting idle?
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For you and anyone else complaining about the poor battery life/battery drain:
1. First - The battery is 6700mAh and not 4800mAh as declared everywhere on web so that's should be enough for everyday usage (currently I got 4-5 SOT for web browsing and lite gaming)
2. Upgrade to the latest firmware version 1.06.
3. After upgrade wipe the system cache.
4. Disable ''Keep Wi-Fi during sleep''.
5. Turn on Android's developer mode and disable animations:
-Go to Settings > About, then tap on Build number several times to enable Android developer mode
-Go to Settings > Developer options, and scroll down to Window animation scale, Transition animation scale, and Animator duration scale.
-Tap on each of the animation options and turn them off.
6. For more speed, install a lightweight launcher (for this tablet I prefer Nova Launcher)
Hope this helps.
Hi.
Anyone can suggest a case for this tablet?
One that doesn't cover any button.
Thanks a lot!
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Hi.
Anyone can suggest a case for this tablet?
One that doesn't cover any button.
Thanks a lot!
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looking for this tok hope someone can help
i saw some bouetooth keyboard case on i think amazon search for fnf ifive keyboard case i think it is dedicated case for this device
I just got mine. Currently about $100 from gearbest and I'm sure other Chinese e-commerce sites.
I also own the Amazon Fire 8 HD tablet for those curious about a comparison. Software wise its so much better to just have vanilla Android vs the whole Fire skin and effort required to get a regular Android launcher setup. The Fire Tablet does fit seemlessly into the whole Amazon ecosystem though which can be quite nice if you use many or most of the Amazon services like Kindle, video, music and shopping. But hardware wise is where the real difference lie. Night and day. I also own the last model Amazon Fire 7 HDX. I mention that because I was shocked when I received my new Fire 8 HD. It was light, plastic-y and had an unforgettable display with much less resolution than the HDX. The buttons were loose and wiggled. Everything just screamed dirt cheap to me. Of course it was dirt cheap price wise compared to the HDX. The ifive Mini 4S is almost the complete opposite. Great screen, solid feel and a fast processor. All for just a few bucks more than the Fire 8 HD. I'd recommend it over the Amazon offering for practically anyone who wants an actual Android tablet. If you're looking for a media device then I'd say that you'll have to choose quality versus ease of integration with Amazon products and services.
Just posted the following over at TechTablets. I found that the latest version of the Google Camera app works with the front camera.
Just a quick comment. I just received my tablet today. I remembered from your YouTube review that the front camera hung the tablet if you took a picture. I agree, generally a tablet isn't a device for pictures but thought I'd see if it still was an issue. It still hangs the tablet but...
I've always preferred the Google Camera app simply because it was consistent across devices. Ever since I used it for the panorama photo feature on my Galaxy S5 phone I've been using it on everything. It takes decent photos on this tablet. Better than with the default app at least. But more importantly it doesn't hang the tablet if you use the front camera. I went to apk mirror to find the most recent arm (not arm64) architecture version that works on Android 6 since I knew the current version was just for Nougat (Android 7+) and I found the following. Name as it appears on apk mirror then link because I'm not sure if links here will work.
Google Camera 3.2.045 (2821762-30) (arm) (Android 6.0+)
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
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Suggestions about case, protection and custom rom for FNF Ifive Mini 4S?
UnknownDK said:
I just bought a iFIve Mini 4s. When it goes idle it basically dies. I have to push the Start button for several seconds and it reboots. Is that normal? It cannot be! Is there a setting or something I'm overlooking? I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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SADLY I am having the same issue. I bought this tablet for my wife and I thought she was being silly and overly dramatic since we know the battery life is not great. However I was using it and it was just on my chest resting for a few minutes with 61% charge and then I picked it up again to continue reading and the power button would not turn it back on. Generally speaking HOLDING the tablet power button for 5+ secs resets the device and it reboots back to 61% charge. This is really sad as I generally like the tablet compared to anything else in its price range, but this is wholly frustrating and hope that this is not indicative of the BRAND or overall build quality.
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I think you should contact your seller and tell them your problem. I think your device is malfunctioning.
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SADLY I am having the same issue. I bought this tablet for my wife and I thought she was being silly and overly dramatic since we know the battery life is not great. However I was using it and it was just on my chest resting for a few minutes with 61% charge and then I picked it up again to continue reading and the power button would not turn it back on. Generally speaking HOLDING the tablet power button for 5+ secs resets the device and it reboots back to 61% charge. This is really sad as I generally like the tablet compared to anything else in its price range, but this is wholly frustrating and hope that this is not indicative of the BRAND or overall build quality.
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I HAVE THIS issue as well. When the issue happens, I have tried messing with the power button.... clicking several times and I have been able to recover it a few times but not always. I don't think it is a battery issue. Maybe a hardware problem with the power switch itself? I bought mine from GEARBEST. I am going to reach out to them and see if they will do anything. Another issue I have is clicking the HOME button seems to produce a SPEAKER based clicking sound. I wonder if it is related to the HEADPHONE static issue we all are experiencing.
Was about to buy this tablet, instead of Xiaomi MiPad which is much more expensive. But the battery issues which are reported by multiple users is deal breaker
Wondering if it is more like software issues which can be fixed by some updates or more about the battery itself.
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I HAVE THIS issue as well. When the issue happens, I have tried messing with the power button.... clicking several times and I have been able to recover it a few times but not always. I don't think it is a battery issue. Maybe a hardware problem with the power switch itself? I bought mine from GEARBEST. I am going to reach out to them and see if they will do anything. Another issue I have is clicking the HOME button seems to produce a SPEAKER based clicking sound. I wonder if it is related to the HEADPHONE static issue we all are experiencing.
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Mine have the same problem. This is ridículos. The tablet shut down and still losing battery. Did anyone figure out how to solve this issue? I also bought mine from Gearbest, did anyone receive an answer from them? I just got mine tablet yesterday and already notice this problem.
TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
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Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
I will probably update to the pixel 8 pro after my 6 pro. I think even the 6 pro is worth getting for $250. I have lineage os 20 on my 6 pro and those updates should last quite a while. I'd invest in it.
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TLDR: Is Pixel 6 worth buying today considering it loses Android support on Oct 2024?
What title says. I was going to buy a Pixel 6 but it loses support on Oct 2024. What does this mean and is it still worth to buy? I assume there's a community that'll unofficially add updates to it.
Currently I have an s21+ and android support is 4 years. I like the Pixel 6 specs better too :3. What do yall think? Ebay price is around $250.
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Also, considering custom Roms and GSI, you can run anything you want. Like my backup phone, Oneplus Nord N10 5G only got android 11, and ROM support is dead for it. It is running Crdoid 2/20/2023 android 13 GSI ROM with 0 issues
Custom ROMs and GSI (Generic System Image) provide an opportunity for users to install and run a different version of the Android operating system on their devices. They are particularly useful for devices that no longer receive official software updates or have limited support from the manufacturer.
In the case mentioned, the Oneplus Nord N10 5G only had official support up to Android 11 and no longer received updates. However, the user was able to install a custom ROM called Crdoid 2/20/2023 based on Android 13 GSI, which allowed them to run the latest version of Android on their device without issues.
Custom ROMs and GSI may require some technical knowledge and effort to install, but they offer the flexibility to customize and modify the device's software to suit individual preferences. They also provide an opportunity to extend the lifespan of older devices by enabling them to run newer software.
However, it is essential to note that installing custom ROMs or GSI may void the device's warranty and can also pose some security risks if not done correctly. It is always advisable to research and follow the installation instructions carefully, and only install ROMs from trusted sources.
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Yes, last Android version will come in fall 2024 but monthly updates (mostly security) will be coming out every month approx until Oct 2025.
I think it's still worth it, considering you still have more than 2 years and P6P is a very capable camera phone with smooth OS.
All the software issues you may have heard about in the past (brightness, higher battery consumption, etc.) have been fixed. Also quarterly updates can be exciting and that's something you don't get on other phones.
Also, Pixel 7 Pro is already down 20% in some stores, so that price is also worth it.
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I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
MapzOr said:
I have tried the Pixel 6 Pro for 5 days. This is my review:
Camera (3/5):
Shooting photos and videos with this phone main camera is amazing, even in low light. It would always impress me, the stabilization is also good. The downside is the ultra wide camera. Shooting videos in low light with the ultra wide camera results in a washed out video. The quality is so bad that it is embarrassing to call this a "Pro" version. My 3 years old OP8 (OnePlus 8) shoots a way better ultra wide video in low light, and the camera is the OP's weakest point... The front camera photos are underwhelming. The telephoto is great, however, I only got to test it in good natural lighting.
Battery (1/5):
This is a 5000 mAh battery device, it should last you the whole day without any trouble. Left home with 72% charge on my OP8 and 78% on the Pixel. I used Google Maps on my OP8 for 1h34m, 30 minutes of it is probably searching for places, the rest was for navigating around the cities. On the other hand, I used the Pixel for taking a few photos and 2 short videos, not more than 5 minutes of usage. Used it for chatting for around 45 minutes. This was an 8 hours trip. The OP8 went down from 72 to 39, the pixel went down frok 78 to 32. 33% with 1h34m Maps vs 46% with 45 min of chatting and a few shots and 2 videos. I tried Anker's 30W charger, and it charged around 13% in 10 minutes – definitely not 30W, my OP8 does 20% in 9 minutes with 30W warp charging. The phone's battery did well on Wi-Fi though, so the problem might be with it cellular receiver.
Software (2/5):
Google's phones are known for their "software". I am not impressed by it, not even a little bit. The camera app would crash so frequently that it got on my nerves. I bought this phone to take photos, and it has built its image on simply doing that, but they can't program an app that functions properly. Google assistant does not work when the phone is locked. I enabled the option in the settings for the assistant to give personal data when locked, but it didn't work. The routines in the Google Assistant didn't work either. The rest of the commands worked fine.
Performance (3/5):
The phone is fast, I didn't challenge it much except with compressing some videos. It is fast, and weirdly enough, it compresses videos to smaller sizes than my OP8. It does heat up a little while compressing but that seemed normal to me. However, I noticed that it heats up with normal use (chatting a little bit, YouTube, browsing the internet). It seemed abnormal to me.
Build (4/5):
The phone looks amazing to me (highly subjective) and feels premium. The display seems hollow when I tap on it with my finger nails, comparing it to a Samsung A31, Note 5 and the OP8. I bought the white color – Google (and pretty much all companies) feels like they need to call it some weird name cloudy starlight or whatever – and it looked quite good. I hated the shiny aluminum frame, it looked like the shiny plastic frames you find on the A series from Samsung. The speakers are not good at all, but I am used to the OP8, which has one of the best speakers out there. It sounds like when you turn on the "surrounding" setting for your headphones.
Fingerprint reader (3/5):
It is fast enough when it actually tries to read your fingerprint. What does that mean? There were many cases where I lift the phone, it lights up and shows the fingerprint reader, I place my finger there and nothing happens. I lift my finger and retry, and it reads it perfectly, never missing. I guess the phone would wait for the animation to finish playing before attempting to read my fingerprint. Comparing it to the OP8, it is much slower.
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Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
skoda9635 said:
Yeah, you are pretty much correct with everything, except those software quirks are not occuring in my unit.
I am not really a heavy user of ultrawide so I don't mind. I am kinda biased towards pure Android (I hated it though before A12) and having reviewed many phones in the past professionally, I just got tired of all the custom ROMs (tried every manufacturer except Vivo and oppo...back then they were not available in my country).
Yeah, you reminded me of those modem quirks - I mean the signal strength is great (better than gf's iPhone 12), but the battery consumption is terrible. I forgot about them after year and half of usage.
Charging is slow - about 23 W or so. It takes hour and half to fully charge.
Yeah, the phone is buttery smooth and yeah it tends to run hotter than average (I don't mind it, got used to it and case lowers the heat emission to my hands). The problem is Tensor (ehm, ehm Exynos). It's also weaker in comparison to Snapdragons.
Fingerprint reader is one of the slowest, that's true. Still waiting for Face unlocking, but that's never gonna happen I guess.
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I have seen several reviews and almost no one mentioned the issues I faced, especially the battery drain on LTE and ultra wide camera.