Charger of 27w or 45w - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Anyone tried charger of 27w or 45w?
Everyvbody knows of original Google charger is 15w...maybe with 27w or 45w the charger will be fast?
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It's the same for me
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It doesn't matter how fast your charger is. The Pixel 2 is capped at 18w.

Like @PuffDaddy_d said, it won't charge faster. And it doesn't even use the 18w the whole time, as some tests showed. I own a 45W charger by myself and can tell you, it really doesn't charge faster.
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Mine charges really fast, don't understand why people are having such trouble? It's a huge battery and charges around 1:45. Haven't found a quicker charging phone, my S8+ charges about the same???
On a side note, the ifixit tear down shows that the Pixel has a Qualcomm SMB1381 Quick Charge 4 IC, which if you look it up is Quickcharge 4 chip.
"For optimal Quick Charge 4 performance, Qualcomm Technologies is introducing the newest power management ICs (PMIC), SMB1380 and SMB1381. With low impedance, up to 95% peak efficiency, and advanced fast charging features, such as battery differential sensing, SMB1380 and SMB1381 are engineered to provide the fastest battery charging from any 5V USB Type-C or high-voltage power source while supporting ultra-thin mobile devices with a charging solution profile of less than 0.8mm. SMB1380/1 is expected to be available before the end of 2016."

Jonathan-H said:
Mine charges really fast, don't understand why people are having such trouble? It's a huge battery and charges around 1:45. Haven't found a quicker charging phone, my S8+ charges about the same???
On a side note, the ifixit tear down shows that the Pixel has a Qualcomm SMB1381 Quick Charge 4 IC, which if you look it up is Quickcharge 4 chip.
"For optimal Quick Charge 4 performance, Qualcomm Technologies is introducing the newest power management ICs (PMIC), SMB1380 and SMB1381. With low impedance, up to 95% peak efficiency, and advanced fast charging features, such as battery differential sensing, SMB1380 and SMB1381 are engineered to provide the fastest battery charging from any 5V USB Type-C or high-voltage power source while supporting ultra-thin mobile devices with a charging solution profile of less than 0.8mm. SMB1380/1 is expected to be available before the end of 2016."
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Perhaps you should take a look at VOOC charging from OPPO

What I've noticed is that from about 0-60% it charges super fast, which makes sense. Then 80-100% is the slowest portion. I would say it fully charges in about 1.5 hours.
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Jonathan-H said:
Mine charges really fast, don't understand why people are having such trouble? It's a huge battery and charges around 1:45. Haven't found a quicker charging phone, my S8+ charges about the same???
On a side note, the ifixit tear down shows that the Pixel has a Qualcomm SMB1381 Quick Charge 4 IC, which if you look it up is Quickcharge 4 chip.
"For optimal Quick Charge 4 performance, Qualcomm Technologies is introducing the newest power management ICs (PMIC), SMB1380 and SMB1381. With low impedance, up to 95% peak efficiency, and advanced fast charging features, such as battery differential sensing, SMB1380 and SMB1381 are engineered to provide the fastest battery charging from any 5V USB Type-C or high-voltage power source while supporting ultra-thin mobile devices with a charging solution profile of less than 0.8mm. SMB1380/1 is expected to be available before the end of 2016."
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No one is saying it doesn't charge quickly. We're just answering the OP's question: this phone won't charge any faster, even with a faster charger.
Also, the pixel 2 is NOT compatible with any Qualcomm Quick Charge, Samsung Fast Charge, Oppo VOOC, One Plus Dash Charge, or Huawei Fast Charge versions. It only accepts the USB Power Delivery standard for fast charging.

daniel4653 said:
What I've noticed is that from about 0-60% it charges super fast, which makes sense. Then 80-100% is the slowest portion. I would say it fully charges in about 1.5 hours.
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Original charger?
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Jonathan-H said:
Mine charges really fast, don't understand why people are having such trouble? It's a huge battery and charges around 1:45.
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I would say it fully charges in about 1.5 hours.
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You've both gone 0% (or near 0%) to 100% under 2 hours? I've never heard anyone claiming that before.
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EeZeEpEe said:
You've both gone 0% (or near 0%) to 100% under 2 hours? I've never heard anyone claiming that before.
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Having the phone off works
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Having the phone off works
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LOL okay but I guess that counts? Might give that a try tomorrow just to see. This afternoon I just went from 1-100% in 2 hours and 8 minutes with phone in regular standby use, screen off, Ambient Display, WiFi and mobile network on. Would be nice if the tech sites posted something about the improved charging speed compared to the initial release. Especially when it used to take nearly 3 hours.
Oh wait, that was phone off with a higher rate PD charger right?

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Battery Charge Time

This phone has crazy fast charge time for a battery the size it has. Maybe its just me but I feel like it charges REALLY fast. Anyone agree?
Yes, the 1.8a charger came with the phone helped a lot.
Aaron from phonedog said the same, this phone charges mighty fast.
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I'm using my nexus 7 charger which is 2a. It charges a little bit faster but i hope it doesn't affect battery longevity.
qualcom
Qualcomm had been bragging about their improved charge times on S4 devices. Not sure how those things work together but they were apparently right.

[Q] Chargine speed?

Just got my G3 last night.
Loving it so far, but i noticed that the charging speed is very slow..
Also, the charger and cable that came with the phone gives me "weak power" notification even when I plug it into the wall.
So I have to use my old charger and cable...
any thoughts ?
Coming from a Note 3, this does feel slower.
Nexus ONE
I'm still using my galaxy s4 charger since its a larger cord. Charges about the same speed as my g2.
Yep coming from the note 3 I notice a difference too. It's gotta be the fact the note had usb 3.0
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Yes, coming from the Note 3, the G3 is slow as hell. Actually, very disappointed on it but it is what it is.
I haven't even used the one that came with the phone. Use the blackberry blade chargers, they'll charge at about 1% a minute or so. Best 5 bucks I ever spent.
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The charger that comes with the phone is 1.8 amps, the Note 3 comes with a 2 amp charger. Not sure how much current the G3 can pull vs the Note 3, but you could try using a Note 3 charger and see if it's any faster.
I had an old charger by my nightstand and when I plugged it in at around 20% it said it would take it 6 hours to charge haha. The included charger quoted 2 hours.
It's possible that your cable (or the charger) is damaged OP
I plugged my 2 day old G3 in yesterday at 18% and it calculated charge to 100% to only take 1hr46min. Your charger must be phuked if it is showing slow charging. All chargers I have that are over 1.5mAh charge at the faster rate.
OhioDroid80 said:
I plugged my 2 day old G3 in yesterday at 18% and it calculated charge to 100% to only take 1hr46min. Your charger must be phuked if it is showing slow charging. All chargers I have that are over 1.5mAh charge at the faster rate.
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Mine charges no slower than any other phone I've owned. I don't do Samsung, so I can't say anything about them. Charges every bit as fast as my wife's M8.
T-Fanatic said:
I haven't even used the one that came with the phone. Use the blackberry blade chargers, they'll charge at about 1% a minute or so. Best 5 bucks I ever spent.
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This ^^^. $5 on eBay for TWO of them. They're 6 feet long, and charge at 1.8A - fast as hell on my N5. I'll see how it is on the G3 when I get it. But they're honestly so good I bought 6 of them total. For $15, and how good they are, why not?
Did u try them? Do u have link from ebay?

Quick Charging?

I got an M9 today, and im trying to see if my Adaptive Fast Charging cable from my S6 would work on my M9. On my s6 it tells me if fast charging is enabled, meanwhile this M9 says nothing. Is there anyway to know if it is actually fast charging without actually watching the charge and see if its "fast"?
I have the HTC quick charger and there are no messages or indicators that fast charging is in effect. Also, the Samsung quick charger did not appear to work on my M9.
Thanks man, so im kinda guessing I just have to watch real world usage and see... What a bummer
I tried using my Nexus 6 quick charger but I don't think it really charges quickly
That's disappointing that other quick chargers don't work on the M9. You would have thought that if the charger is Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified then it should work, right?
Some do. The Motorola quick charger that came with the Nexus 6 works fine with my M9.
danengland said:
Some do. The Motorola quick charger that came with the Nexus 6 works fine with my M9.
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And vise versa?
danengland said:
Some do. The Motorola quick charger that came with the Nexus 6 works fine with my M9.
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The charger that came with my Samsung Note 4 charges my M9 fast
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toiday said:
That's disappointing that other quick chargers don't work on the M9. You would have thought that if the charger is Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 certified then it should work, right?
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that's the problem their not all "Qualcomm Certified" some chargers sold as quick chargers are the old Qualcomm Quick Charge 1.0 and only supply 1.5a at 5v and not the true 18W - 2.0a at 5v
Even the HTC rapid charge 2.0 is only listed as Output 5V at up to 12Watts/1.5A
The list of Quick Charge 2.0 devices is not that large
Quick Charge 2.0 Compatible models:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4/Edge,
Google Nexus 6,
Sony Xperia Z4, Z4 Tablet, Z3, Z3 Compact, Z3 Tablet Compact, Z2 Tablet,
Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X 2014,
HTC One M9, HTC One (M8), One Remix (Verizon Mini 2), Desire EYE,
LG G Flex2,
Xiaomi Mi3, Mi4, Mi Note, and more
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but it would be no big surprise to me if samsung didn't put something in their charger to disable the quick charge function on non samsung phones
Im using the stock HTC charger and its telling me 9 hours until fully charged, lmfao.. wtf
Just acquired a note 4 adaptive fast charger, i'll give it a test vs the htc charger with minimal apps installed, the original S5 charger with a normal cable charges the M9 very quickly, this isn't a fast charger afaik, but it does the job a lot quicker than the original M9 one does.
Will see how it goes.
Just charged from 50 to 100 in 70 mins.
2 hours 20 minutes or there about.
That is not fast charging, at least not QC2.0 speeds. You're describing something probably charging 1100-1500
QC2.0 can charge from flat to fat in about an hour and ten minutes. +1800 - +2400 - think this is the one I'm using right now: http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...9167&sr=8-1&keywords=quick+charge+2.0+charger $15, it charges in average about +2000mA.
That said, it would probably charge faster if the screen stayed off. Seems to drop down to +700mA when the screen kicks on, which it does at every notification.
dladz said:
Just charged from 50 to 100 in 70 mins.
2 hours 20 minutes or there about.
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Using nexus 6 turbo charger mine went 50 to 100 in 35mins
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That is not fast charging, at least not QC2.0 speeds. You're describing something probably charging 1100-1500
QC2.0 can charge from flat to fat in about an hour and ten minutes. +1800 - +2400 - think this is the one I'm using right now: http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...9167&sr=8-1&keywords=quick+charge+2.0+charger $15, it charges in average about +2000mA.
That said, it would probably charge faster if the screen stayed off. Seems to drop down to +700mA when the screen kicks on, which it does at every notification.
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Wasn't saying it was fast charging, 2 hours is not bad.
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v1rk said:
Using nexus 6 turbo charger mine went 50 to 100 in 35mins
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Rapid that mate
dladz said:
Wasn't saying it was fast charging, 2 hours is not bad.
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Rapid that mate
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Its great, just a shame with htc standard charger takes forever
mildlydisturbed said:
That is not fast charging, at least not QC2.0 speeds. You're describing something probably charging 1100-1500
QC2.0 can charge from flat to fat in about an hour and ten minutes. +1800 - +2400 - think this is the one I'm using right now: http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...9167&sr=8-1&keywords=quick+charge+2.0+charger $15, it charges in average about +2000mA.
That said, it would probably charge faster if the screen stayed off. Seems to drop down to +700mA when the screen kicks on, which it does at every notification.
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I have the same charger and can confirm that it does charge alot faster with QC2.0 using battery monitor widget app.
v1rk said:
Its great, just a shame with htc standard charger takes forever
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It's not too bad is it? I thought my phone charged pretty quick using that
I have an older HTC charger at work that charges fairly slow. It appears to be around +700-800mA. The charger that came with the phone is much quicker. I assume it must be around +1200mA based on charge time. If I'm near a dead battery, I can get it back up to 100% in around 2 1/2 to 3 hours.
dladz said:
It's not too bad is it? I thought my phone charged pretty quick using that
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With standard charger I found that by not touching it charges quicker, once you start using it takes time. Same with in car it annoymed the most with how long it took.

Using the supplied charger for everyday charging?

So the stock charger that comes with the phone is a quick charger. Would using this charger every night to charge my phone kill the overall lifespan of the battery? Is it bad for the battery?
I don't think there's enough data to reliably say whether it's significantly decreasing the life, but fast charging does produce more heat which will theoretically degrade your phone quicker. I personally use a normal wall plug overnight and keep the quick charger by my desk in case I need a top-up during the day.
Here's some light reading:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/12/25/speed-chargers
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/42xq9p/fast_charging_bad_for_battery_in_long_run/czegbzm
noahjk said:
I don't think there's enough data to reliably say whether it's significantly decreasing the life, but fast charging does produce more heat which will theoretically degrade your phone quicker. I personally use a normal wall plug overnight and keep the quick charger by my desk in case I need a top-up during the day.
Here's some light reading:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/12/25/speed-chargers
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/42xq9p/fast_charging_bad_for_battery_in_long_run/czegbzm
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Quadrider10 said:
So the stock charger that comes with the phone is a quick charger. Would using this charger every night to charge my phone kill the overall lifespan of the battery? Is it bad for the battery?
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QC 3.0 significantly improves charging efficiency and heat reduction. Please don't confuse fast chargers with quick charge technology.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
I've read all that and still can't really decide if it's OK to use everytime
Quadrider10 said:
I've read all that and still can't really decide if it's OK to use everytime
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Of course it's fine to use it everyday, manufacturers wouldn't ship a charger with a phone that you shouldn't use.
geoff5093 said:
Of course it's fine to use it everyday, manufacturers wouldn't ship a charger with a phone that you shouldn't use.
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Pardon my cynicism but manufacturers get paid to sell phones. Slow degradation due to heat might have you buying a new one 20% sooner than if you slow charged. Not saying this is the case, but you have to look at the flip side of your argument too.
demi9od said:
Pardon my cynicism but manufacturers get paid to sell phones. Slow degradation due to heat might have you buying a new one 20% sooner than if you slow charged. Not saying this is the case, but you have to look at the flip side of your argument too.
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It would be a fine balance between that and having to deal with warranty issues from faulty chargers.
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My moto x pure battery is still in good condition after using qc2.0 for a year. I'd say it's all gonna be fine.
I plan to have this phone for a long time. 3-4 years. That's why I've been a little worried about using it.
Try testing it for yourself.
I haven't used any charger except the QC 3 that came with the phone yet, but I have noticed it gets pretty warm.
Plenty apps available to monitor your battery temp. (Link in my sig )
Heat is definitely bad for batteries.
As far as charge rate it's hard to say. Fast charging a car or marine battery is significantly degrading it. Not sure about the batteries used in modern tech. I would assume they can handle fast charging well given the only charger included is a rapid charger.
Use the QC3 charger for everyday charging. It will be fine. Discharging the battery is going to hurt more.
If you want to maximize it:
discharge no lower than around 40-50% or so.
charge it higher than 90%.
Have fun using your device.
demi9od said:
Pardon my cynicism but manufacturers get paid to sell phones. Slow degradation due to heat might have you buying a new one 20% sooner than if you slow charged. Not saying this is the case, but you have to look at the flip side of your argument too.
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Manufacturers wouldn't have customers buying another phone of theirs if their phones don't last long.
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Best Fast charger(not wireless) for Pixel 3XL?

Hi pals,
I'm looking for a fast charger (default original one is not fast) for 3xl.
Actually how to select fast charger? What is the measure amps or watts?
And can xl can stand up to any fast charger or is it like it is only safe to use upto certain amps or so?
Thanks in advance
are you saying the OEM charger isn't fast? that'll put out as much as the pixel can handle, so no aftermarket charger will be any better. if you're just looking for a replacement, or maybe a multiport I've had very good luck with choetech products over the years. there are also the new gan chargers, which put out a ton of power from a small brick. they won't charge the pixel any faster, but if you have something like a laptop they can help
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are you saying the OEM charger isn't fast? that'll put out as much as the pixel can handle, so no aftermarket charger will be any better. if you're just looking for a replacement, or maybe a multiport I've had very good luck with choetech products over the years. there are also the new gan chargers, which put out a ton of power from a small brick. they won't charge the pixel any faster, but if you have something like a laptop they can help
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Yeah the default isn't great in fast charging especially because I migrated from OnePlus 6.
In India there are quite a many fast chargers. I stay in India. Can you please link me choetech product. Will see if it is available in India.
harigavara said:
Yeah the default isn't great in fast charging especially because I migrated from OnePlus 6.
In India there are quite a many fast chargers. I stay in India. Can you please link me choetech product. Will see if it is available in India.
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you won't find anything faster than the OEM charger. it maxes out the pixels charging capacity
kellybrf said:
you won't find anything faster than the OEM charger. it maxes out the pixels charging capacity
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That's right, go OEM charger
OEM charger it's fast charger isn't? maybe yours it’s s faulty? or not the original or something like that? There is some apps that can tell you how fast your phone it's charging, that might help
I like this charger due to its small size, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PT7XMP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anker 30W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Power Delivery USB C Charger
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
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CROrION said:
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
Look at screenshot
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Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge rate.
adaptor S20 have dynamic tech, and by default pixel 3XL have 18W but the issue from some tech reviewer have hardware same like samsung S20 (25W)
so if you using adaptor s20 is better from original...
KUSOsan said:
Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge rate.
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CROrION said:
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
Look at screenshot
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i think you wrong moment compare this adaptor... S20+ using when 28% batery and standar adaptor when 52% so its diferent moment... try same when 28% s20+ dan original... you can real the result sir...
KUSOsan said:
Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge ra
KUSOsan said:
Just so you know from those screenshots the s20 charger is charging at a higher rate because the battery life is at a lower charge (28% vs 50% from the one using the stock picture). Have you actually timed a charge from each one from start to finish? The lower the battery is the faster it will charge. There was an article on here or maybe reddit about someone who researched the behavior of fast charge. I believe 40 or 50% is roughly where it starts cutting back on the charge rate.
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I have pixel 3 XL, I tried multiple chargers (Ambrane 20w , 70w GaN charger , 18watt iPhone charger ,MI 22w powerbank ) at 28 % max speed I use to get around 2800mA .
Though he is comparing at different battery levels but more than 3400 mA is actually a great charging speed at 28%.
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CROrION said:
Hi guys just to let you know i get much faster charging with s20+ charger then with stock one.
Look at screenshot
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Thank you brother I was looking for this only
I use stock. However a colleague praised a 25w above. There is this option..
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Mini-Charger-Cable-Black/dp/B09135GHY9/ref=sr_1_24?crid=2MO29469OAWTH&keywords=ugreen+20w+usb+c+charger&qid=1654045974&sprefix=ugreen+20%2Caps%2C220&sr=8-24

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