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I have discovered my tablet suffers what seems to be a common problem with other Note models.
I have been a little disappointed with battery life and today noticed the tablet vibrating as I was walking, it was detecting the spen removal every thirty seconds or so, even with the tablet in my hand and relatively still. This turns the screen on.
It is most likely going back tomorrow, sadly for a refund as they have no stock, I've had charging issues too. On two occasions it only reached around 53% powered off charging overnight and only hit 90% one evening when powered on, that said, this has only happened a couple times early on. Maybe just the battery finding it's footing and calibrating itself?
It got me thinking though, I'm using a snugg case with a magnet on the closure. Does anyone know if the spen uses a magnet in the silo?
I do occasionally find that with the cover folded round the back that it can cause the screen to go off, so the magnet must be of a reasonable strength. Maybe it's interfering with the silo detecting the pen?
Any thoughts please?
Im pretty sure its not a magnetic sensor, maybe its a pressure sensor of some sort? (i really have no clue lol)
But I had the same problem with mine, and found that if i physically pressed down on the top of the pen when it was inside the silo,
it would temporarily resolve the problem.
if your s-pen isnt snug and can slide in/out, the tablet might not detect the pen as being inside the silo.
Got my exchanged and the s-pen is MUCH more snug, no problems whatsoever.
Im using the Poetic Slimline case (has magnets) and have been using it for over 2 months now, no problems whatsoever.
herbs28 said:
I have discovered my tablet suffers what seems to be a common problem with other Note models.
I have been a little disappointed with battery life and today noticed the tablet vibrating as I was walking, it was detecting the spen removal every thirty seconds or so, even with the tablet in my hand and relatively still. This turns the screen on.
It is most likely going back tomorrow, sadly for a refund as they have no stock, I've had charging issues too. On two occasions it only reached around 53% powered off charging overnight and only hit 90% one evening when powered on, that said, this has only happened a couple times early on. Maybe just the battery finding it's footing and calibrating itself?
It got me thinking though, I'm using a snugg case with a magnet on the closure. Does anyone know if the spen uses a magnet in the silo?
I do occasionally find that with the cover folded round the back that it can cause the screen to go off, so the magnet must be of a reasonable strength. Maybe it's interfering with the silo detecting the pen?
Any thoughts please?
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Did you go into settings and turn off pen detection? Just a suggestion. I have not had this issues nor have I heard of it before.
¿Will-it-Blend? said:
Did you go into settings and turn off pen detection? Just a suggestion. I have not had this issues nor have I heard of it before.
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That setting seems to do nothing, even after reboot. Still detects the pen in and out. Is that normal? Doesn't sound like it.
Short explanation:
"An electromagnetic field is generated from a circuit behind the screen. The S Pen picks this up and uses it to power itself and figure out its position relative to the screen. It sends this, along with information from the S Pen button and the nib at the end, back to the Note."
http://www.androidauthority.com/break-it-down-how-does-the-s-pen-work-154435/
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That setting seems to do nothing, even after reboot. Still detects the pen in and out. Is that normal? Doesn't sound like it.
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I'm sure S-pen detection is the feature where it lets you know if you walk away with your tablet without the s-pen.
My S-pen and Silo are both fine and it still vibrates and I have detection off too.
Geordie Affy said:
I'm sure S-pen detection is the feature where it lets you know if you walk away with your tablet without the s-pen.
My S-pen and Silo are both fine and it still vibrates and I have detection off too.
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From what I've read, the tablet doesn't have that walk away feature and it's limited to the note phones.
herbs28 said:
From what I've read, the tablet doesn't have that walk away feature and it's limited to the note phones.
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Oh!....then whats this feature do
Geordie Affy said:
Oh!....then whats this feature do
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As far as I can tell, nothing at all.
Geordie Affy said:
Oh!....then whats this feature do
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S-Pen detection disables the digitiser if the S-Pen is IN the holster. It save a bit of power.
I have the HM5100 Bluetooth Pen. It works like this.
With "Disable pen detection" unchecked I can use the BT spen while the note' spen is still in the holster.
With "Disable pen detection" checked the BT spen does not work util I remove the note' spen from the holder.
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S-Pen detection disables the digitiser if the S-Pen is IN the holster. It save a bit of power.
I have the HM5100 Bluetooth Pen. It works like this.
With "Disable pen detection" unchecked I can use the BT spen while the note' spen is still in the holster.
With "Disable pen detection" checked the BT spen does not work util I remove the note' spen from the holder.
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That makes sense, thanks.
I love Knock on feature but after 4 days of active phone use I find it rather annoying!
I usually carry a phone either in a back pocket of my jeans or in a shirt's pocket.
So every time there is a little pressure on the screen it turns it self on and weird/random things start to happen to home screen.
I don't use password or swipe protection, so when I wake up the phone it immediately goes to a home screen.
The knock on sensor seems a bit underdeveloped. It needs to be less sensitive to non-finger pressure.
Basically after 4 days I gave up and disabled it.
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I love Knock on feature but after 4 days of active phone use I find it rather annoying!
I usually carry a phone either in a back pocket of my jeans or in a shirt's pocket.
So every time there is a little pressure on the screen it turns it self on and weird/random things start to happen to home screen.
I don't use password or swipe protection, so when I wake up the phone it immediately goes to a home screen.
The knock on sensor seems a bit underdeveloped. It needs to be less sensitive to non-finger pressure.
Basically after 4 days I gave up and disabled it.
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I have the same problem, I disable Knock on unwillingly...
The quickcircle case prevents this issue (and looks pretty snazzy, too).
I suffer from this prolem too. The weird thing is, the first 3 Days with the phone, this problem was no problem...I don't know why, but since yesterday, it appears frequently...Maybe I wear other trousers? I don't know. The sensor on the front should prevent the phone from waking up while in the pocket, you can test iot working by cover the front sensors and then "knock on"...it won't work. That is exactly what should happen inside the pocket, but however, it does not work properly for me!
Just curious. How did you know the phone was on because of the knock on and not because the power button was accidentally depressed?
Seifer1975 said:
Just curious. How did you know the phone was on because of the knock on and not because the power button was accidentally depressed?
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Because I turn off knock on and now it's fine
Hmm, I carry my phone in my jeans pocket all the time, and this is not a problem to me. Knock on never seems to trigger when I don't want to.
I have had no false starts from using knock on at all, I even tested with lots of different materials to see if it would work.
If it is causing you such problems why don't you use a knock code?
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Hmm, I carry my phone in my jeans pocket all the time, and this is not a problem to me. Knock on never seems to trigger when I don't want to.
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Lennyuk said:
I have had no false starts from using knock on at all, I even tested with lots of different materials to see if it would work.
If it is causing you such problems why don't you use a knock code?
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Just like these two guys, I have no issues with knock-on - if anything when I take it out of my pocket I have to triple tap sometimes to get it working.
radicalisto said:
Just like these two guys, I have no issues with knock-on - if anything when I take it out of my pocket I have to triple tap sometimes to get it working.
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Same here with the triple tap
Put the phone in the pocket with the screen facing outward as a temporary solution until LG fix this issue..
atsfrnd said:
Put the phone in the pocket with the screen facing outward as a temporary solution until LG fix this issue..
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With the huge risk that you lean on something and crack the screen? No thanks (not that I am having this issue anyway )
How do you turn it of?
kirikou008 said:
Because I turn off knock on and now it's fine
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Could anyone tell me how to turn it of please - I have tried a hundred things ...
Lennyuk said:
With the huge risk that you lean on something and crack the screen? No thanks (not that I am having this issue anyway )
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It is a very risky workaround and i'm aware of that
but the thing is, even with any type of security the screen will turn on once it gets inside the pocket and it wouldnt turn off..
so theres definitely something wrong with the proximity sensor..
anyway i solved my problem by using the QC case.. and apart from this issue it's a great case overall
this happens to me too, but only with loose pockets. when i'm wearing my office attire, theres no issue. But when i'm in shorts during the weekend, it turns on by itself and it gets quite annoying. sometimes it'll open apps and start typing gibberish.
mlauesen said:
Could anyone tell me how to turn it of please - I have tried a hundred things ...
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Dial 3845*#855# then scroll down and you will see a menu to disable it.
Substitute 855 with your model number if you have a different one.
jodvova said:
Dial 3845*#855# then scroll down and you will see a menu to disable it.
Substitute 855 with your model number if you have a different one.
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It comes back saying wrong MMI
My model name is LG-D855
Dial 3845#*855# not 3845*#855#
zi0m3k said:
Dial 3845#*855# not 3845*#855#
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Perfect , thanks a million - you made my day
Protagoras said:
Hmm, I carry my phone in my jeans pocket all the time, and this is not a problem to me. Knock on never seems to trigger when I don't want to.
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Lennyuk said:
I have had no false starts from using knock on at all, I even tested with lots of different materials to see if it would work.
If it is causing you such problems why don't you use a knock code?
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Same! Never had a problem with knock-on on my G2 either!
I don't know if this has been asked before.
But is it possible to just let the Iris Scanner scans our eyes right when the screen turns on? Like, I have the cover on, then I flip the cover open, screen turns on, and Iris Scanner will do its job. RATHER than having to swipe the screen once.
And is it possible to accept phone call using Iris Scanner?
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I don't know if this has been asked before.
But is it possible to just let the Iris Scanner scans our eyes right when the screen turns on? Like, I have the cover on, then I flip the cover open, screen turns on, and Iris Scanner will do its job. RATHER than having to swipe the screen once.
And is it possible to accept phone call using Iris Scanner?
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The short answer is no but both would be welcome changes.
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jackdforme said:
The short answer is no but both would be welcome changes.
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Thanks.
And is it possible to change edge lighting when someones calling and our phone's screen is placed down?
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Thanks.
And is it possible to change edge lighting when someones calling and our phone's screen is placed down?
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Not sure what you mean by that. Edge lighting is contact color specified.
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Not sure what you mean by that. Edge lighting is contact color specified.
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Yes, that one. Thanks.
Iris scanner and Laser eye surgery
Hi Everybody,
I am new to posting but not new to following many samsung note 3,4,5 forums.
I just bought a Note 7 N930FD in Vietnam, Gold color. I would maybe have chosen another color but i didn’t have the choice. The manager at Phone Shop told me Samsung was having issues with the Black color getting to hot.
Anyway to get to my issue. It’s the iris scanner. It doesn’t give a complete successful scan of my eyes. The most it reached was 90%. Although mostly it doesn’t reach that % often mostly it fails within a minute or so.
I am wondering if anyone else is having issues getting their eyes scanned. I went back to the shop and the manager scanned his eyes, right away it was a success. He did it a second time with the same result.
So i conclude it not a issue with the phone or software.
The only 2 factors that maybe causing failed scans for me, are i had laser eye surgery many years ago. I have no idea if that is effecting it or not. Maybe if there is someone reading this who also had laser eye surgery and they used the iris scanner with success, would you please let me know. The other possibility is my eyelids don’t open enough to have the scanner complete the scan.
Beside this issue the phone is working really well. No lag, smooth scrolling. The speaker isn’t as loud as would like in comparison to my Note 5. But my note 5 was rooted with Viper/ AryaMod_Premium_Sound_Control installed, which was excellent. I don’t intend to root the Note 7 until i use the phone for 3 or 4 months, then i’ll see what is available with custom roms.
Also a side note, i didn’t have issue with using a sim card and memory card in the draw. It ejects ok when i apply slight pressure with the pin tool. The other thing was that the spring in the spen works fine, i did read someone said that theirs got stuck in the phone. I find after i eject the pen, i push back in the spring loaded top end. Then when i put it back into place i don’t need to push the spring loaded top. Just slide it into place easily till it clicks….
ljaaya1946 said:
Hi Everybody,
I am new to posting but not new to following many samsung note 3,4,5 forums.
I just bought a Note 7 N930FD in Vietnam, Gold color. I would maybe have chosen another color but i didn’t have the choice. The manager at Phone Shop told me Samsung was having issues with the Black color getting to hot.
Anyway to get to my issue. It’s the iris scanner. It doesn’t give a complete successful scan of my eyes. The most it reached was 90%. Although mostly it doesn’t reach that % often mostly it fails within a minute or so.
I am wondering if anyone else is having issues getting their eyes scanned. I went back to the shop and the manager scanned his eyes, right away it was a success. He did it a second time with the same result.
So i conclude it not a issue with the phone or software.
The only 2 factors that maybe causing failed scans for me, are i had laser eye surgery many years ago. I have no idea if that is effecting it or not. Maybe if there is someone reading this who also had laser eye surgery and they used the iris scanner with success, would you please let me know. The other possibility is my eyelids don’t open enough to have the scanner complete the scan.
Beside this issue the phone is working really well. No lag, smooth scrolling. The speaker isn’t as loud as would like in comparison to my Note 5. But my note 5 was rooted with Viper/ AryaMod_Premium_Sound_Control installed, which was excellent. I don’t intend to root the Note 7 until i use the phone for 3 or 4 months, then i’ll see what is available with custom roms.
Also a side note, i didn’t have issue with using a sim card and memory card in the draw. It ejects ok when i apply slight pressure with the pin tool. The other thing was that the spring in the spen works fine, i did read someone said that theirs got stuck in the phone. I find after i eject the pen, i push back in the spring loaded top end. Then when i put it back into place i don’t need to push the spring loaded top. Just slide it into place easily till it clicks….
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- Note 7 black color gets too hot? Just an excuse. Never heard such thing. I'm using the black one myself. Wish I got the silver one but because pre-order stock ran out after 6 hours of the first day.
- Have you tried with other device to see if it get stuck on 90% also? I've never heard of that as well. Maybe eye surgery caused that. But try it on other device first to confirm.
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- Note 7 black color gets too hot? Just an excuse. Never heard such thing. I'm using the black one myself. Wish I got the silver one but because pre-order stock ran out after 6 hours of the first day.
- Have you tried with other device to see if it get stuck on 90% also? I've never heard of that as well. Maybe eye surgery caused that. But try it on other device first to confirm.
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I am living in a small city in Vietnam. Only one shop now have Note 7 and they had 2 gold models. All in sealed box they won't open, only if you buy it. Usually they have display models. There is no display model to try what you suggest. Maybe in the next week or so i'll give it a go when they are on display. although the scanner worked fine for the shop manager, so i don't think its my phone or software. Yes i can't say if the guy is spinning a story about the black color, but it might be the case for the ones coming out of the Vietnam samsung factory that are effected!
Finally scan worked
Well I reset the phone, after was able to scan my eyes after a few attempts. End of Story for now!
I had the GS8 Plus and also currently have the Note 8. Both phones would turn off the AOD when the proximity sensor was covered. My U.S. Unlocked S9 Plus does not do this. I double checked the settings (including pocket protection) and tested it by covering the sensor with black cloth for several minutes confirms that it does not turn off.
Is this a new "feature", bug, or what? Anyone seeing different behavior on the Exynos model or carrier is models? It seems strange that Samsung would have changed this.
Edit: Figured it out, guys. I had dexterity and interaction settings on in accessibility that let me wave my hand over the proximity sensor to turn the screen on. That was the cause.
Well, that's disappointing. I thought I remember my S8 having a toggle for that.
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In my case (Exynos dual SIM) AOD turns off when the phone is face down. If I flip it very quickly I can see that it was off. I don't know what happens in my pocket, but it might take into account other sensors and turn AOD off.
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In my case (Exynos dual SIM) AOD turns off when the phone is face down. If I flip it very quickly I can see that it was off.
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Thanks. Weird, but I seem to remember the unlocked snapdragon GS8 had something like this at launch too. Maybe they'll update it.
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I had the GS8 Plus and also currently have the Note 8. Both phones would turn off the AOD when the proximity sensor was covered. My U.S. Unlocked S9 Plus does not do this. I double checked the settings (including pocket protection) and tested it by covering the sensor with black cloth for several minutes confirms that it does not turn off.
Is this a new "feature", bug, or what? Anyone seeing different behavior on the Exynos model or carrier is models? It seems strange that Samsung would have changed this.
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Mine turns off. Exynos model. I have to pick the phone up for it to reappear.
Mine turns also off (Exynos) but it need a short time (a minute?!) till it's off.
Same for me (Exynos), it turns off in about 30 seconds.
Figured it out, guys. I had dexterity and interaction settings on in accessibility that let me wave my hand over the proximity sensor to turn the screen on. That was the cause.
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Is there a knock to wake, if the AOD is off?
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Is there a knock to wake, if the AOD is off?
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That stinks. I love that on my G6. especially if my hands are messy, I can use my knuckle.
By the way have you noticed that if you choose an analog type of clock there's a seconds hand which moves... every second this was not the case with S7 Edge which i used to use. any ideas how to turn off the seconds hand?
Hello,
Before buying the Poco F3 I've never had a phone with this system without a proximity sensor, and the truth is that after using the phone for two weeks I'm sick of it. I'm even thinking of selling the phone.
Due to the fact that the problem is related to the lack of appropriate hardware, I think that a possible solution for phone calls could be that the screen would automatically lock when answering calls, and then to manipulate the screen again it would be necessary to unlock a via a slider, pattern, fingerprint, or facial recognition.
Do you know any solution or calling app that allows to do something about this? Root wouldn't be a problem.
Thank you.
I tried the recalibration but did not work. Also I am using a new tempered glass screen protector but no luck. It would be interesting to hear from someone who is using a custom ROM if the problem is solved there
you want poco f3 to go screensaver mode/ blackscreen when your calling/talking to someone?
Unfortunately, they have to use palm rejection in conjunction with the camera to get it to work but it will never be as good... I know that feeling bro... hate how when listening to audios on Instagram or whatsapp this **** doesn't even work at all
I checked the proximity sensor test in CIT and it is very inconsistent for me too. I guess this device has an ultrasonic proximity sensor instead of the infrared sensor that is generally used, and it hasn't been calibrated correctly. Maybe future updates could fix it hopefully
i use this app name "proximity service" when you cover the proximity sensor near front camera the screen would turn off while the running apps does not get shutdown i use it to stream call of duty without my phone screen running so phone don't get overheat
so is the proximity sensor actually broken on everyones device. what the hell something as simple as that they messed up.
sam00561 said:
so is the proximity sensor actually broken on everyones device. what the hell something as simple as that they messed up.
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provably intentional they sacrifice some hardware to fit its price range this explain why the phone cost $200 on some country while other have it at $400
business my friend lol
ineedroot69 said:
provably intentional they sacrifice some hardware to fit its price range this explain why the phone cost $200 on some country while other have it at $400
business my friend lol
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I think proximity sensor is an essential part of a phone during they haven't left it out. Must be software bug.
As far I know, this phone don't have any proximity sensor, I guess that this is because design reasons, don't think that the proximity sensor hardware cost more thant cents. The phone uses an ultrasonic "sensor" combined with the gyroscope, because of that, the sensor only works (when it works) with the phone in vertical.
For Whatsapp, instagram or other audios I don't think there is a solution for this, even with future updates, since the main problem is the lack of hardware and isn't possible to modify the apps.
I thought that a "solution" for phone calls could be that if when answering calls the touchscreen locks automatically (even if the sensor malfunctions and don't turn off the screen), and for unlock a slider on screen or something similar was necessary, could be a solution for misstouching the touchscreen with the face. Even using screensaver mode/blackscreen for this purpose could be a solution, but I can't figure out if this is possible with some other third party telephone app.
Are proximity sensors needed?
I am thinking about buying this phone, but this concerns me.
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Are proximity sensors needed?
I am thinking about buying this phone, but this concerns me.
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I already bought it and found out about this sensor issue after purchase the phone is on its way and i am kind of regretting the purchase because sensor is quite important so that the screen can go off when the phone is near your ear and also for some reason when playing voice note on whats app people are saying the screen turns off and doesnt come back on which is a huge flaw in my opinion. I cant think how this could possibly be fixed without the option of a physical IR proximity sensor.
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I already bought it and found out about this sensor issue after purchase the phone is on its way and i am kind of regretting the purchase because sensor is quite important so that the screen can go off when the phone is near your ear and also for some reason when playing voice note on whats app people are saying the screen turns off and doesnt come back on which is a huge flaw in my opinion. I cant think how this could possibly be fixed without the option of a physical IR proximity sensor.
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Dang, I wonder if software can fix it?
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Dang, I wonder if software ca
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CoolGuyOnTheInternet said:
Dang, I wonder if software can fix it?
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i really need to know this too. Have you got the phone yet
sam00561 said:
i really need to know this too. Have you got the phone yet
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No, I have not ordered it yes since I am in Canada.
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No, I have not ordered it yes since I am in Canada.
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Ok maybe Hold off a while until more is known
I am also experiencing this same issue. Due to this, I had sold my previous device Mi 11Lite to a friend of mine since he isn't bothered about the issue. Now in Poco F3, I am facing this issue. Sometimes it gets off and sometimes it doesn't. Initially, I first experience this issue in Redmi Note 9S but then the same issue arises in Mi 11 Lite. But in Poco F3 it does more frequently then my previous devices.
I think it's due to wired location of the proximity sensor which controls it in these thin bezels devices since the earphone grill is too small. Its driver or software should be tweaked by developers or Xiaomi in sort of patch or update.
If there is any fix or workaround for this then kindly share since it's very annoying especially listening to WhatsApp messages is a pain in the ass.
Also my f3 when I make a call and phone is upright and my face is facing it then the screen goes off. This does not happen when the phone is lying down
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Also my f3 when I make a call and phone is upright and my face is facing it then the screen goes off. This does not happen when the phone is lying down
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i thought that what supposed to happen? also forcing your proximity sensor to "always run" and detect if your phone put down on table lying down and turn off screen would eat more battery
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i thought that what supposed to happen? also forcing your proximity sensor to "always run" and detect if your phone put down on table lying down and turn off screen would eat more battery
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Yes, for example when you're lying on the bed or the couch and want to attend phone calls and hear whatsapp audios.