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Hi, I had to create this topic outta utter frustration and annoyance. Well my device was having a charging problem (it was taking long time to charge) and I submitted it to the nearest service center here (Divine Electro Solution, Calcutta, India) on 14th this month. Next day they called me and said the charger is the culprit (but they wasn't sure about that!) and they'll replace it. So I went to take my phone on last Saturday and they handed me the device with the new charging adapter (they didn't change the cable). As soon as I looked at the phone I was . The main screen had at least 6 or 7 very prominent scratches, kind of things which could be only done by keys, or razors, that if you scratch them pretty badly on the screen. I said what have you guys done to the screen? They said, they don't know! They sent the phone to head office and they might have done that. They were pretty sure that I would take the phone, but I wasn't gonna, why would I accept a scratched device while I gave them an almost brand new and shiny one? Anyway, they said I will get it back on Monday, with the front LCD replaced (or the glass maybe), so today I called them and they said there is no spare parts available and they don't know how long would it take. This annoyed me. Well it's not that I've given them a scratched one and they could take all the time on earth, it's their damn responsibility. Anyway, I asked how long could it take and said to do it asap, but they said, they can't tell me any time frame and I could take my device back as it is now and come back when the LCD/glass is available to replace it. Well I am not doing that, because I know as soon as they give me the device they will not hold any sort of interest for any further process. So I didn't take it.
I emailed this incident to the complaint section of Samsung, sent the same copy to Executive board too, and got a reply also, saying,
This is to acknowledge the receipt of your concern and also to inform that the same has been highlighted to the Executive Escalation Team( CEO's Desk).
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Well I don't know if they will do anything or not, I sent the mail on Saturday and till today they didn't contact my local SC or HO that's for sure. There isn't a helpline number in their website where I could reach them and tell my issue.
Anyway, what you guys think I should do? Should I just wait more or do something? It's been a week now they are holding the device, and don't know for how long more they have intended to!
Thanks in advance.
PS: Forgot to say how stupid these SC guys are, they told me on Sat after giving me the new charger that this phone should take 5 hours if not more to charge completely, as it has a bigger battery. I, just to make sure they were complete stupids and brainless asked, how big is the battery? They said, it has 2500 mAh battery and a 2A charger should charge it in 5 hours :laugh:
I never had a pathetic experience like this with any brand previously, be it Nokia, hTC or Apple.
Thats cos samsung are noobs stick t0 google.or.htc in my opinion although the note 2 is best on market
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jujuburi said:
Hi, I had to create this topic outta utter frustration and annoyance. Well my device was having a charging problem (it was taking long time to charge) and I submitted it to the nearest service center here (Divine Electro Solution, Calcutta, India) on 14th this month. Next day they called me and said the charger is the culprit (but they wasn't sure about that!) and they'll replace it. So I went to take my phone on last Saturday and they handed me the device with the new charging adapter (they didn't change the cable). As soon as I looked at the phone I was . The main screen had at least 6 or 7 very prominent scratches, kind of things which could be only done by keys, or razors, that if you scratch them pretty badly on the screen. I said what have you guys done to the screen? They said, they don't know! They sent the phone to head office and they might have done that. They were pretty sure that I would take the phone, but I wasn't gonna, why would I accept a scratched device while I gave them an almost brand new and shiny one? Anyway, they said I will get it back on Monday, with the front LCD replaced (or the glass maybe), so today I called them and they said there is no spare parts available and they don't know how long would it take. This annoyed me. Well it's not that I've given them a scratched one and they could take all the time on earth, it's their damn responsibility. Anyway, I asked how long could it take and said to do it asap, but they said, they can't tell me any time frame and I could take my device back as it is now and come back when the LCD/glass is available to replace it. Well I am not doing that, because I know as soon as they give me the device they will not hold any sort of interest for any further process. So I didn't take it.
I emailed this incident to the complaint section of Samsung, sent the same copy to Executive board too, and got a reply also, saying,
Well I don't know if they will do anything or not, I sent the mail on Saturday and till today they didn't contact my local SC or HO that's for sure. There isn't a helpline number in their website where I could reach them and tell my issue.
Anyway, what you guys think I should do? Should I just wait more or do something? It's been a week now they are holding the device, and don't know for how long more they have intended to!
Thanks in advance.
PS: Forgot to say how stupid these SC guys are, they told me on Sat after giving me the new charger that this phone should take 5 hours if not more to charge completely, as it has a bigger battery. I, just to make sure they were complete stupids and brainless asked, how big is the battery? They said, it has 2500 mAh battery and a 2A charger should charge it in 5 hours :laugh:
I never had a pathetic experience like this with any brand previously, be it Nokia, hTC or Apple.
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I can understand your frustration. There will be an officer for every city to check whether the service centre guys or behaving properly or not. Better get hold of that guy. Anyway you have contacted the executive section right, tell them you will accept the phone only if they provide brand new or replace the screen including glass. Otherwise you can sue them in consumer court and claim more damages more than 1 lakh. Better wait for the new piece.
chwads2k8 said:
Thats cos samsung are noobs stick t0 google.or.htc in my opinion although the note 2 is best on market
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Well Android is NOT my cup of tea, and I dislike those Nexus phones very much, I just can't stand the Stock Android feel. That's why I purchased the Note 2, but if I had known the after sales service is this terrible, then I would never buy it.
chaitanya87 said:
I can understand your frustration. There will be an officer for every city to check whether the service centre guys or behaving properly or not. Better get hold of that guy. Anyway you have contacted the executive section right, tell them you will accept the phone only if they provide brand new or replace the screen including glass. Otherwise you can sue them in consumer court and claim more damages more than 1 lakh. Better wait for the new piece.
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Well I am talking with 'that' guy from day 1 and what amuses me that a section manager knows nothing about Note 2! He keeps saying it's a new device, no one knows much about it! I mean in what earth a more than 7-8 weeks old device is 'new' device. His and his total groups lack of knowledge amaze me.
Update: At 10 am today I got a call from Samsung HO and they made a conference call and connected me with that guy with whom I was talking from very first. Same crap he said again, unknown period of time due to lack of parts availability. Nonsense.
So this is their solution, I think they just found a new feature in phones, and that is conference calling.
I am so ashamed. Ashamed on myself, that I purchased this phone.
jujuburi said:
Well Android is NOT my cup of tea, and I dislike those Nexus phones very much, I just can't stand the Stock Android feel. That's why I purchased the Note 2, but if I had known the after sales service is this terrible, then I would never buy it.
Well I am talking with 'that' guy from day 1 and what amuses me that a section manager knows nothing about Note 2! He keeps saying it's a new device, no one knows much about it! I mean in what earth a more than 7-8 weeks old device is 'new' device. His and his total groups lack of knowledge amaze me.
Update: At 10 am today I got a call from Samsung HO and they made a conference call and connected me with that guy with whom I was talking from very first. Same crap he said again, unknown period of time due to lack of parts availability. Nonsense.
So this is their solution, I think they just found a new feature in phones, and that is conference calling.
I am so ashamed. Ashamed on myself, that I purchased this phone.
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You should be asking for a replacement phone, not for repairs. It takes the whole 'we dont have parts available' issue out of the argument. This is their error, not yours. Insist on a new device.
Tell them if you don't have the parts, replace the phone.
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stoney73 said:
You should be asking for a replacement phone, not for repairs. It takes the whole 'we dont have parts available' issue out of the argument. This is their error, not yours. Insist on a new device.
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Tell them if you don't have the parts, replace the phone.
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I would DEMAND a new phone!
only iphone has a total replacement policy n thus the price:
well i had a camera issue with note 1 on the very first week,i hd rooted the phone but helpfully(xda) there was unroot,n i gave the phone to the service centre it took them 7 days to replace my front camera,but all was well,and yes availability of parts for a newly released device is hard.the person who inspected my device said front camera is only for video chatting that was the noobest reply i got,have a patient i hv a gult feeling ur problem will be solved.and as far as htc n google are concerned there have very small bussiness foot print in india,so samsung is a good choice for indians
I had huge bubbles under the gorilla glass so i gave it to sabsonic service center ( kolkata ).it was a 1 week old set with 0 scratches.they replaced the display and added more or less 5 scratches to screen and 15-20 scratches on back cover ( yeah back is ruined ) and few dents to the metal lining on sides.i asked them for an explanation,they said they dunno about it. if your issue is resolved,kindly update here.
I second you telling them to give you a new device. Either they fix it now, or they give you a new phone and you'll give back the parts. It's unacceptable that THEY mess up your phone and give it back, and then don't have the parts to change it... Fine... It's a new device, no new parts yet, but then give you a new phone to replace the busted up one!
You went in for a new CHARGER
and now you have to walk out with a NEW PHONE because THEY messed up!
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I had huge bubbles under the gorilla glass so i gave it to sabsonic service center ( kolkata ).it was a 1 week old set with 0 scratches.they replaced the display and added more or less 5 scratches to screen and 15-20 scratches on back cover ( yeah back is ruined ) and few dents to the metal lining on sides.i asked them for an explanation,they said they dunno about it. if your issue is resolved,kindly update here.
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I called them yesterday and they said come and see, we have changed the 'Gorilla Glass' (the pronunciation made me laugh hard), see if you are satisfied. I went and checked the screen thoroughly and there was NO scratch and they indeed changed the front glass. But yea, there were two or three small dents at the metallic border, and the back cover is scratched as well, but this isn't my iP5, so I didn't give a damn at that plastic.
But for the issue I submitted the device, that was long charging problem, it is NOT resolved. Device is still taking same time like before. Now I am gonna try with a different charger or cable, and if it's not good I will ask them to replace the device.
One thing I did learn, these service center guys should go back to school and learn ABCD first, but I doubt that, because I don't think they have any better IQ than Forrest Gump.
i talked with them regarding exchange, they said " sorry we don't do that, we only replace faulty parts "
Anyone know how to get rid of the annoying recall pop up on the note 7 sense it was updated it constantly keeps doing it . Idc about the recall my phone is fine never had a issue of it overheating ect. Just wanna get rid of that annoying pop up
Why not just exchange it? It's not going to cost you anything. And you will have a new phone.
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Why not just exchange it? It's not going to cost you anything. And you will have a new phone.
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Ignorance, laziness, want a pay day after it bursts :silly:
jjayzx said:
Ignorance, laziness, want a pay day after it bursts :silly:
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Neither of those that you say Just no need to go exchange it just because Mr smith says ur phone is bad doesn't mean it is .
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Why not just exchange it? It's not going to cost you anything. And you will have a new phone.
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No need to exchange it the phone is working fine , nothing wrong with it only reason they are wanting you to exchange it is because it is better to be safe and recall all then only the ones that are bad , pretty much Samsung is CTOA . I see no need for me to exchange it
There is no way to get rid of it, unless you exchange it..
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Mr Smith is saying to exchange it because it's best to exchange it.
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I have been trying to exchange mine since the recall notice. This is all I get from Verizon
"We want you to be happy with your device. The Note 7 is available now. Here's a link to get you started: http://spr.ly/6011B7vPc . Do you have any other questions?"
Problem is, I purchased mine from Costco. They still don't know when they will have them. Lesson learned, don't buy phones from Costco.
pfcland said:
Neither of those that you say Just no need to go exchange it just because Mr smith says ur phone is bad doesn't mean it is .
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pfcland said:
No need to exchange it the phone is working fine , nothing wrong with it only reason they are wanting you to exchange it is because it is better to be safe and recall all then only the ones that are bad , pretty much Samsung is CTOA . I see no need for me to exchange it
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Russian Roulette is risky.
pfcland said:
Anyone know how to get rid of the annoying recall pop up on the note 7 sense it was updated it constantly keeps doing it . Idc about the recall my phone is fine never had a issue of it overheating ect. Just wanna get rid of that annoying pop up
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Exchange it.
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pfcland said:
No need to exchange it the phone is working fine , nothing wrong with it only reason they are wanting you to exchange it is because it is better to be safe and recall all then only the ones that are bad , pretty much Samsung is CTOA . I see no need for me to exchange it
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My wife's OG Note7 and my OG Note7 have both been fine, no issues whatsoever and no explosions, fires or anything of that nature. But we're definitely exchanging both of our original Note7's for the 'safe' Note7's. There's a great chance nothings going to happen to your phone but, you run a much higher chance that something could happen with one of those Samsung SDI batteries packed inside it. Grabbing a new one with the ATL battery packed inside would be the safest thing to do as it is officially recalled now. I had Verizon FedEx 2 day me 2 brand new 'safe' Note7's and they'll be here tomorrow morning. I'm going to transfer everything to my new phones and then go to my local Verizon Corporate store and drop off both original Note7's. All the best in keeping your original Note7.
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My wife's OG Note7 and my OG Note7 have both been fine, no issues whatsoever and no explosions, fires or anything of that nature. But we're definitely exchanging both of our original Note7's for the 'safe' Note7's. There's a great chance nothings going to happen to your phone but, you run a much higher chance that something could happen with one of those Samsung SDI batteries packed inside it. Grabbing a new one with the ATL battery packed inside would be the safest thing to do as it is officially recalled now. I had Verizon FedEx 2 day me 2 brand new 'safe' Note7's and they'll be here tomorrow morning. I'm going to transfer everything to my new phines and then go to my local Verizon Corporate store and drop off both original Note7's. All the best in keeping your original Note7.
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How were you able to work out this deal? Sounds like a method I would like, but didnt know it was available. Thanks!
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How were you able to work out this deal? Sounds like a method I would like, but didnt know it was available. Thanks!
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Yeah! It was because I got into contact with the Verizon Executive Office a few weeks back. I got in touch with Tami Erwin (VP of Verizon Wireless) and one of her personal assistants listened to how annoyed and dissatisfied I was in how they were handling the recall process, as it wasn't easy for me to get a loaner, the people I dealt with were not on the same page and I was told all sorts of different answers. That's why I'm still stuck with these original Note7's. Anyhow, I told her it was going to be difficult for me to drive around from store to store once new stock got in. I knew it'd be a chore waiting in lines to try and track down a black and silver Note7 and possibly coming away with nothing after waiting in line (like some have and unfortunately walked away with nothing for their time). I got a newborn and a preschooler that I'd have to bring with me, I didn't want to get jerked around and have to travel store to store and possibly be left without both because I had a feeling it'd be the way it is now. Competing with Verizon selling to non note customers on top of those who want to exchange for the new Note7 is making this a cluster f**k. So she told me that she wanted it to be convenient for me, apologized for any inconvenience and mentioned that once the new stock comes in to call and have it shipped to me and then just bring the old Note7's to a Verizon store. I saw a few others on here the other day mentioning they had theirs shipped to them, so I was like F this and I called in to have it ordered to me too! At first they weren't wanting to do it. I mentioned they are currently selling it to all customers online and I need these recalled units out of my hands and told him about my situation and who I talked with in the executive office and that they were looking to make it as convenient as possible for me. So I was put on hold and he talked with a manager I believe and the rest was taken care of. I told them this needed to be a free of charge deal as it's been inconvenient with no real 'line' for people to sign up for in order to get their original unsafe Note7's replaced with new 'safe' Note7's. Honestly, it's messed up that new Note7 owners who don't have the recalled Notes are able to go in and purchase the new 'safe' Note7's as it's a saftey hazard for those of us who still have a recalled unit (as I tried swapping it out but wasn't successful a few times and so I gave up. Plus I don't have backup phones available to use so I wasn't going to just turn in two phones and pay for service). Once the recalled units are all returned or very close to it, that's when the general public should be able to purchase one. But right now it is a free for all, who ever can pay for one gets one. Just don't let down with them, keep on them, let them know you're a dissatisfied customer and this whole ordeal has been a mess. If you have to, tell them you want to speak with a supervisor, keep asking to work your way up if you are not satisfied.
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My wife's OG Note7 and my OG Note7 have both been fine, no issues whatsoever and no explosions, fires or anything of that nature. But we're definitely exchanging both of our original Note7's for the 'safe' Note7's. There's a great chance nothings going to happen to your phone but, you run a much higher chance that something could happen with one of those Samsung SDI batteries packed inside it. Grabbing a new one with the ATL battery packed inside would be the safest thing to do as it is officially recalled now. I had Verizon FedEx 2 day me 2 brand new 'safe' Note7's and they'll be here tomorrow morning. I'm going to transfer everything to my new phines and then go to my local Verizon Corporate store and drop off both original Note7's. All the best in keeping your original Note7.
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Justinphxaz said:
Yeah! It was because I got into contact with the Verizon Executive Office a few weeks back. I got in touch with Tami Erwin (VP of Verizon Wireless) and one of her personal assistants listened to how annoyed and dissatisfied I was in how they were handling the recall process, as it wasn't easy for me to get a loaner, the people I dealt with were not on the same page and I was told all sorts of different answers. That's why I'm still stuck with these original Note7's. Anyhow, I told her it was going to be difficult for me to drive around from store to store once new stock got in. I knew it'd be a chore waiting in lines to try and track down a black and silver Note7 and possibly coming away with nothing after waiting in line (like some have and unfortunately walked away with nothing for their time). I got a newborn and a preschooler that I'd have to bring with me, I didn't want to get jerked around and have to travel store to store and possibly be left without both because I had a feeling it'd be the way it is now. Competing with Verizon selling to non note customers on top of those who want to exchange for the new Note7 is making this a cluster f**k. So she told me that she wanted it to be convenient for me, apologized for any inconvenience and mentioned that once the new stock comes in to call and have it shipped to me and then just bring the old Note7's to a Verizon store. I saw a few others on here the other day mentioning they had theirs shipped to them, so I was like F this and I called in to have it ordered to me too! At first they weren't wanting to do it. I mentioned they are currently selling it to all customers online and I need these recalled units out of my hands and told him about my situation and who I talked with in the executive office and that they were looking to make it as convenient as possible for me. So I was put on hold and he talked with a manager I believe and the rest was taken care of. I told them this needed to be a free of charge deal as it's been inconvenient with no real 'line' for people to sign up for in order to get their original unsafe Note7's replaced with new 'safe' Note7's. Honestly, it's messed up that new Note7 owners who don't have the recalled Notes are able to go in and purchase the new 'safe' Note7's as it's a saftey hazard for those of us who still have a recalled unit (as I tried swapping it out but wasn't successful a few times and so I gave up. Plus I don't have backup phones available to use so I wasn't going to just turn in two phones and pay for service). Once the recalled units are all returned or very close to it, that's when the general public should be able to purchase one. But right now it is a free for all, who ever can pay for one gets one. Just don't let down with them, keep on them, let them know you're a dissatisfied customer and this whole ordeal has been a mess. If you have to, tell them you want to speak with a supervisor, keep asking to work your way up if you are not satisfied.
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Right on - I am in the exact same boat as you. Identical. Wife and I both have Note7's, black and silver. I did stop by a local store last night and all they had was black Note7's, so I swapped mine out. Of course they have no idea if/when they will have silver. What a cluster. May have to raise a stink and have a silver mailed to me. Thanks for the info!
Why would you NOT exchange it? The phones that exploded didn't have any issues either, until they EXPLODED lol.
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Right on - I am in the exact same boat as you. Identical. Wife and I both have Note7's, black and silver. I did stop by a local store last night and all they had was black Note7's, so I swapped mine out. Of course they have no idea if/when they will have silver. What a cluster. May have to raise a stink and have a silver mailed to me. Thanks for the info!
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Glad to hear you got yours exchanged, sucks the Mrs still has her original Note7 though, hopefully you can get a silver one for her soon. This was my concern, they never seemed to have a real game plan or mention of giving current Note7 owners first dibs to exchange for the new safe Note7's. Now you're running around trying to find silver and have to compete with people who want a Note7 on top of those who just want a new safe one. It shouldn't be this way at all. A major majority of the potentially unsafe Note7's should be exchanged first then allow new sales to the general public. But yeah if you can't find a silver one soon, call them up and try to get them to overnight you a silver one. I just got a notification that both of our Note7's are on a FedEx truck out for delivery. Should have them here in a few hours.
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Why would you NOT exchange it? The phones that exploded didn't have any issues either, until they EXPLODED lol.
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Received my two new Note7's around 11am this morning, dropped off from FedEx. So happy to have a safe Note7! Nice and new and it works just as well if not better than my original Note7. Now I just need to setup my wife's new Note7 and then go bring the original two back to a Verizon Corporate store. The piece of mind and hopefully being able to keep the old chargers, S-Pen's, tips and connectors is well worth doing an exchange and having to set everything up again. Have you or anyone you know taken advantage of the $25 bill credit? Do we just ask for it once we turn in the OG Note7's?
I purchased my Note 7 through an employee purchase plan with Verizon Wireless. I called out support line and they are shipping me a new Note 7 but not requiring me to mail in my old one. So I am going to have two Note 7s. I may just sell the new one I get because my old one is working perfectly fine. Would I be able to sell my old Note 7 anywhere if I wanted? Would I be able to continue using my old Note 7? Would it get software updates? Anyway to trick the device into thinking it is a new Note 7 by flashing the latest firmware or is there a hardware identifier that would block that? Anywhere I could exchange my old note 7 for a new note 7 even though I have already received a new one or does everywhere require a proof of purchase to process the exchange?
I personally would keep the new one
Yeah, that might be best, but what should I do with the old one?
ring samsung. If you sell it on and it hurts someone it could open the way for civil action (I think you yanks call it litigation?)
buy a new battery when they are available and then replace it.... then you have 2 note 7... one less water proof
Send it to me.
I was going to suggest replacing the battery with one of the eventual options on eBay or similar, but then I realised the firmware that limits/turns green, it might be using an IMEI check and in that case it wouldn't matter if you had a replacement battery installed..... I'd sell it 'as is' now and get as much back as possible. It's only going to decrease in value as replacements become more common place.
If you sell it knowing its an old model and it kills someone, you can go to jail for life.. I know its an exaggeration, but I'm just giving you an extreme example of what can happen.
Don't sell the phone, give it back to Samsung.
Sell it minus the battery or with the latest firmware limiting charge capacity.
I would question them on returning the old phone as the recall is meant to be an exchange they may come for it down the road.
as for how the phone works now an update went out today that makes the new phones mark up as safe with green batteries and the old phones have a lot of nagging pop ups and the charging restricted to 60% so soon the phone wont be working fully and anyone who bought it or used it would be notified o the fact it is a defective device.
I would hold off just a little on selling it, I am in the boat epp rep said to keep it but I read the OST and its because they don't have a formal word from Samsung on how to ship them back.
I would keep it and wait a reasonable time, after that, It would be good as spare parts source
In spite of my best intentions, and really attempting to remain loyal to Samsung during a decidedly rough time for the company, I am being completely abandoned by Samsung. Do they care? Not at all. Do they think the loss of one (more) customer is significant? It would appear not. That attitude is not really great, but it's understandable. If we, the consumers are in a bad way over this, and we certainly are, depending on your particular circumstances, then it's not hard to imagine how messed up thing must be for those Samsung employees that are dedicated and we rightfully proud of the N7.
It's a nightmare for all. That being said, we the living still have to work and play and go on with our lives. I sat on a fence for a week, just paralyzed - I was in denial, I realize; "this can't be... it just can. not. be...
But acceptance is one of the steps I think, and with that in mind I came up with a plan. Trading the Note 7 for an S7 or S7 Edge was not an option. I already HAVE an S7 (work phone) and an S7 Edge (personal phone that I kept when upgrading to Note 7. Besides, neither is a Note. I sold my Note 4 when I got the N7. The S7 Edge is a beautiful phone. It's just not a NOTE. Different usage case.
So I decided, with my options disappearing, that a Note 5 was the best (least worst?) option available to me, as sad as that appears. The Note 5 has the newer build methods and materials, though it's not as balanced, nor as slick as the Note 7 was/is (or as slippery) and I sure don't have to list why it's a weak substitute in this space, but it IS the closest thing to a N7 in a Note Series phone. So I decide to bite the bullet and live with half the internal memory, no water resistance, a smaller battery (but not prone to meltdown at least) etc.
Guess what? No Note 5 to be had. There's obviously SOME around since a guy posted that Verizon got him one for about $375 or so - but AT&T? Nope. Nada. They must have divested themselves of them knowing that NOBODY would want one with the N& selling alongside it. Whoopsie. Bad call. Note 5 would be more popular today than when it was new on the market.
So I tried Samsung. Thinking I would give them a really hard time and hopefully get them to GIVE me one until a new model - ANY new model phone comes out. I have gotten stuff in the past when a company is trying really hard to keep customers.
Guess what? No Note 5 to be had here either. SAMSUNG got rid of them all, at least all the ones in the sales channel. So both AT&T and Samsung can't get me ANY model note phone, including prepaid devices or refurbs (why the rep thought she could find a Prepaid Note 5 is a joke in itself.
To add (another) insult to (yet more) injury, the AT&T rep tells me "You can use the S-Pen on the S7" I kindly explain to her why that is not so, no Wacom digitizer, thus no S-Pen, but she INSISTS! Sher READ IT SOMEWHERE (therefore it MUST be true, right?) So, since I HAVE an S& and 2 S-Pens (one kept back from the 1st N7 recall) I tell okay, let's TRY IT! HEY! Guess what? (I say that a lot here, don't I?) It DOESN'Y WORK! WHAT A SURPRISE! I am SO disappointed. But she tells me (wait for it) You must be doing something wrong. My documentation says a stylus works with the Note 7. FACE PALM (when what I feel like doing is reaching through the phone line and (expletive deleted)
So yeah. Truly without a viable option. And the sad part is, I didn't even WANT the damn Note 5 very much, but was willing to make the best of it, AND stay loyal to Samsung, and buy yet ANOTHER Samsung Phone next year. They keep this up they will be competing with HTC and Motorola on phone sales again. You can't stay at the top of the tier when you a) have no product to sell at that level, and b) Give your (potentially loyal) customers no way to remain so, despite their willingness to work with you.
Based on these realizations I have to believe Samsung will reap exactly what they are sowing today which is big losses of sales, loss of market share, and loss of loyal customer base. It doesn't get much worse than that. But fret not. Even these extremes wouldn't send me over the dark side of the apple.
Note 5's for ATT are everywhere. Have you looked at Amazon lately? BH Photo?
My search was really fruitless. No Verizon Note 5's anywhere except at Verizon, where I would have to pay as much as the Note 7 costs while simultaneously losing my Upgrade status and be stuck with it for 24 months to boot.
So I feel for you but only half as much as I feel for me.
Yes but I need AT&T to GIVE the NOTE 5 to me. I dont want to buy one, lol! I would, under the right circumstances give up the NOTE 7 (sob!) but there's no way I am using up an upgrade or the GO TO on an N5. It has to just be a placeholder, not a replacement for N7.
Just to ask:
Have you tried calling Samsung's Note 7 department based in Colorado? The number is 855-291-6255 - no matter who you first speak with ask for the Note 7 department in Colorado. If you get any grief over it tell them you had called earlier (a little white lie) and you had been on hold with that department for an hour or so and got disconnected and nobody has called you back.
I know of 13 people personally that have used that method to get a full retail refund of the purchase price on their Note 7 devices: 5 of them with AT&T, 4 of them with Verizon, 3 with T-Mobile, and 1 with Sprint. How do I know? Because I gave them that number and those instructions last week after I saw the number posted over at Reddit with the same info and instructions.
Now, as of this minute Samsung might be doing things a bit differently, I don't know, but 5 (2 from AT&T, 1 from Sprint, 1 from T-Mobile, and 1 from Verizon) of those 13 people I provided the number and info too already got their refunds this week (they told me when their checks arrived). They also returned their devices to their carriers and were told to either keep them or wait for Samsung to send the return packaging.
It sure can't hurt to give 'em a call and see what happens. If you're successful and you get the refund congrats, now you'll have money to go buy whatever phone you want (given that if you were under contract with the Note 7 purchase you'd be paying that off if required, some carriers are just writing off those losses at this point).
I read the other day that the Note is only good for about one or two percent of their phone sales, so while it bites, it's probably not biting them as much as it should be, resulting in a general feel among people that they don't care. Or that's my guess at this point.
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Have you tried calling Samsung's Note 7 department based in Colorado? The number is 855-291-6255 - no matter who you first speak with ask for the Note 7 department in Colorado. If you get any grief over it tell ...
It sure can't hurt to give 'em a call and see what happens. If you're successful and you get the refund congrats, now you'll have money to go buy whatever phone you want (given that if you were under contract with the Note 7 purchase you'd be paying that off if required, some carriers are just writing off those losses at this point).
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Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate it, but I think you may have missed the entire point of my long winded tale... I don't WANT a REFUND. AT&T will give me a refund, take back the device, shut down the extra line I assigned it and all that. None of which helps me in any way. What I need is a NOTE PHONE. Having sold my perfect condition NOTE 3 and Note 4 after grabbing the Note 7, I have nothing to fall back on and no way to GET a NOTE PHONE. Having a refund leaves me without the phone I need and no reasonable replacement. Thanks anyway, though.
So you're trying to get a Note 5 for free? You think they're just going to do that? After all of this mess?
You said AT&T couldn't find one to sell you... so what is is, you are trying to get one for free, or you can't find one to buy? Apparently you CAN buy one. https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-N920C-Factory-Unlocked-Galaxy/dp/B013WACF4S?th=1
This has sucked for everyone affected. Personally I've been through two Note7's and ended up with a S7 Edge. If I wanted a S7 Edge I would have pre-ordered it when it came out. I stuck with Samsung because I use their features across all my other Samsung devices. Those devices include a NotePRO 12.2 (my laptop), Note 10.1 2014 (retired - now primarily my TiVo remote), Galaxy View (my portable home and away TV), and Gear S2. I use SideSync, S Note (including the Windows app), Scrapbook, Samsung Link, Samsung Pay, and Samsung's browser (ad free w/o root) and wasn't prepared to give those up. My non-Samsung device choices on AT&T amount to the LG V20 (too big for its screen size, not enough sizzle) or iPhone 7 (I'm not changing eco-systems). So I'm keeping the S7 Edge until the S8 comes out which will most likely be a Note7 with beefier specs and no S Pen. I'll hope for a Note8 in the fall and then I'll move from the S8 to it.
Like OP I had Note5 I was fine with. If the Note7 never came out I would have kept it and waited for what followed the S7-series. I do like the S7 Edge though and like the edge features I grew accustomed to on my time with the Note7. Since I do use S Note heavily I picked up a Tab A 8 with 4G and S Pen that I imported from Malaysia. It's a nifty small little tablet that's great for taking notes and it's on 6.0 so has the Note7's S Pen features. When I only want to carry one device I forward my calls from my S7 Edge to it and I can send and receive MMS on it using AT&T's unified messaging.
So I've exchanged phones three times, have a phone I wouldn't have chosen, and had to buy a tablet I wouldn't have needed. Sh!t happens. Samsung didn't want what happened to happen and neither did AT&T. I'm loyal to Samsung and Note devices especially so I'm just rolling with it. Of the over a dozen Samsung devices I own or owned this is the first time I've been let down. Assuming this incident has taught them humility their future products will be the best designed, best tested, and best QC'd on the market.
It is what it is.
Wow this thread truly makes my head hurt....
Let me make sure I get this right.
You are fully aware you can get a refund... for the FULL RETAIL AMOUNT of the phone, but don't want to do that, because you want AT&T or Samsung, to give you a Note 5... as a matter of principle???
There are PLENTY of Note 5 devices available for sale, at a MUCH lower price than the Note 7.
So you are UNWILLING to get a refund, and use that money to BUY a Note 5, and use the rest of the money for whatever you want.
This makes Z. E. R. O. sense. Please tell me I am missing something here, but getting around your generic rant and getting to the details was a bit difficult. End of an era? Like others have stated, the Note is a small percentage of their total sales. Until S7s and S7 edges start catching on fire, the era will continue just fine.
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I read the other day that the Note is only good for about one or two percent of their phone sales, so while it bites, it's probably not biting them as much as it should be, resulting in a general feel among people that they don't care. Or that's my guess at this point.
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I read the other day that the Earth is in fact flat and not round after all <- True story!
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I read the other day that the Earth is in fact flat and not round after all <- True story!
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Thank you for that insightful contributing post.
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Wow this thread truly makes my head hurt....
Let me make sure I get this right.
You are fully aware you can get a refund... for the FULL RETAIL AMOUNT of the phone, but don't want to do that, because you want AT&T or Samsung, to give you a Note 5... as a matter of principle???
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I can understand their point because I have gone through the same dilemma.
I had a Note 4 I was relatively happy with, but starting to get long in the tooth. I tend to get a phone every 2 versions if the new version is reasonable (so went from N2 to N4 for example). I never considered the N5 as I have a pretty full SD card and no way am I giving up running that.
So the N7 specs came out, and it was everything I wanted. Fork out the huge $1350au and pre ordered it. The rest of that chapter is well known (2 perfect Note 7s in 4 weeks).
Now, with what is assumed to be total abandonment of the Note 7 series, what are my options?
1-full refund-ok, but then I need to get a phone (N4 is now being used by my wife)
2-S7/S7E with gift card style refund ($450/$350au).
I forked out the $ to upgrade to a phone I really wanted. Now I have to still lose some of those $ to get a phone I never really wanted, nor would have considered.
The only resolution I can see is to have Samsung provide a loan device and re-release a Note/SPEN model again with SD card ASAP, or allow the cheap purchase of an inferior model and a discounted purchase of the new model when it becomes available. I will certainly be somewhat out of pocket over all this, plus not being able to use the phone I really was wanting to buy.
I have decided instead to get the closest phone to the N7, the S7E, with the Samsung offer in au it is basically getting it for $100 less, and hopefully it will have good resell value when the next N series comes out (but I haven't sold a phone in a long time now, always handy to keep older phone just in case!)
I never certainly planned to buy two new phones so soon!
I think buying the N5 at this stage is a massive compromise for most (esp with so little on board storage and no SD slot), I would think anyone taking this route now is doing it temporarily to keep them going to the next N release and thus 2 phones purchased when really they were after just 1, thus why we get all these threads. The N7 is almost perfect, anything else is a compromise until the N7 comes back into sale again (as N6+ lol).
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I will still buy another samsung phone most like the next s8. Yes, i need to return the phone twice. But i got a few valuable free gifts. And got a full refund at the end. Not even iphone will do that. If you do the math, Samsung basically just gave me a travellers charger, a wireless charge, a power bank for free. So, why not getting the s8 next year, you won't have anything to lose
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Just to ask:
Have you tried calling Samsung's Note 7 department based in Colorado? The number is 855-291-6255 - no matter who you first speak with ask for the Note 7 department in Colorado. If you get any grief over it tell them you had called earlier (a little white lie) and you had been on hold with that department for an hour or so and got disconnected and nobody has called you back.
I know of 13 people personally that have used that method to get a full retail refund of the purchase price on their Note 7 devices: 5 of them with AT&T, 4 of them with Verizon, 3 with T-Mobile, and 1 with Sprint. How do I know? Because I gave them that number and those instructions last week after I saw the number posted over at Reddit with the same info and instructions.
Now, as of this minute Samsung might be doing things a bit differently, I don't know, but 5 (2 from AT&T, 1 from Sprint, 1 from T-Mobile, and 1 from Verizon) of those 13 people I provided the number and info too already got their refunds this week (they told me when their checks arrived). They also returned their devices to their carriers and were told to either keep them or wait for Samsung to send the return packaging.
It sure can't hurt to give 'em a call and see what happens. If you're successful and you get the refund congrats, now you'll have money to go buy whatever phone you want (given that if you were under contract with the Note 7 purchase you'd be paying that off if required, some carriers are just writing off those losses at this point).
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I seen the reddit site where people were talking about this refund process. So you know people who have confirmed getting a full retail check back already? I wanted to take this route with my sprint note 7 but I didn't want them to de activate my phone once I call to get the box sent. Rather it be blacklisted once I take it off my account when I get the return box.
As stated, the 13 people I provided that info to were "OK" with getting the refund from Samsung. Since I made that post one other person got their check already as well so it seems to be the course to take. Samsung might change things as I mentioned so the only way to know is call it and see what happens.
Can't speak for any blacklisting going on, all I keep hearing are rumors and the occasional report from someone that says their device has been blacklisted but there never seems to be any way to verify those stories. If the carriers actually publish statements that they plan to blacklist the Note 7 (which is within their rights to do since it's their networks) then I'll attach some more credence to it at that time but I don't expect it anytime soon if it ever does.
Samsung has said they'll accept returns through December 31, 2016 so, after that we'll see what happens with the carriers too I guess.
Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.
I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.
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I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.
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I'm not mad? It's just kinda like really? I had two phones in the past that I bought new from Motorola and Oneplus that sent me brand new replacements. And my oneplus I owned for two MONTHS. I have had my 6 pro for 11 days I believe? It's just kinda like WOW. Haha my girlfriend and I were like no... we're not mad, but just cancel it.
Out of curiosity, for the sake of science, do you mind posting the logcat output capturing a few of these camera freeze up and reboot occurrences? Thanks
I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.
Or going by factory seconds where some did not make it out due to quality assurance checks, some phones are just born "frankenphones" at the factory itself.
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I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.
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Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.
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Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.
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True, they do label those as "refurbs" as well. Would make sense they'd be mailing those out as they probably have little to no stock of brand new phones. I wouldn't care too much if I got someone's return as long as there's no cosmetic issues or mechanical issues on the device.
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
The issue is the uncertainly on the degree of cosmetic/mechanical issues, making it a strict no from me at the retail price.
Ideal solution would be a $200 rebate on a certified refurb unit or a full refund for the inconvenience, stress, mental angst
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Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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I wouldn't accept anything but new within the first 30 days. In your case they definitely should be giving you a brand new one. You probably got a crappy rep, I would try again with another one. Easier said than done with how nonexistent support has been since launch. Within the first 14 days they're supposed to give new devices as a replacement. Good luck man!
Depending on how much I love the product, I usually try to rule out user error first because no product is bug-free or perfect, else simply I return it since it is clearly not worth my time trying to beta test their product and buy a more reputable and reliable product.
In the Android world, Samsung has excellent brand loyalty for this reason and something Google should learn from if they wish to retain their customer base and build brand loyalty.
I mean no disrespect at all to any fans of Samsung - I loved my Galaxy S3 a long time ago. But the way Samsung's software doesn't work well for my usage, and how they make some things not work as well as they do on Pixels made my wife and I return to Pixels and sell our Note 10+ after only a year and a half - and I usually keep a phone for 3 years or at least until it's no longer updated.
The Note 10+ hardware was top-notch. Couldn't stand the software, though, and my P6P is already working much better for my wife and I than the Note 10+ was.
Low inventory could result in sending refurbished one's...
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Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.
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I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the (replacement) phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch. Also, as mentioned, return window might be a deciding factor.
Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
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I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch.
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Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
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I had a couple minor quirks, but the dealbreakers for me were
a) random reboots (didn't bother me the first 1 1/2 days because they only happened in idle, but then the phone randomly rebooted whilst I used it to navigate, that was unacceptable)
b) heavy lens flicker, even with clean glass (random rays of light whenever in 70% of shot pictures against/ with the sun)
Since using the replacement device, I neither had random reboots nor any more heavy lens flicker. Its possible ofc that these were software and not hardware isses, but since I set up my P6 Pro replacement the same way that I set up the "original" p6 pro one (cable backup transfer from my previous phone), it's hard to find that out.
Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement if it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him I was a little ambiguous with my phrasing and to this day I still wonder if it was a new phone.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago...
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Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement of it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him it was a little ambiguous with my phrasing.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago
Google has been doing this for years, this is nothing new.