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I believe im having some software/driver errors (using NJ5 Retail) I don't think these are hardware errors as we both got our phones as different places and different times and it would be strange to have the same issues. I believe its a Note 4 problem.
1. Both my wifes and my Note 4 phone's seem to be having WiFi dropouts (not at the same time) ... its not a issue with any of our other WiFi devices and my daughters S5. I did wonder if it was our router (Netgear R6300v2) but its rock solid. So I tested it at local wifi and ran some heavy data and surely enough intermittently it "locks" up. So far haven't seen any issues with 4G LTE, but then again we tend to avoid heavy data usage on that.
2. Also on both of our phones Intermittently the camera will lag really bad as well, its as if im running a million apps and have no memory. Yet I have over almost 900MB of free ram and 20gigs of free space. I also have confirmed I have no apps running and so far the only fix is to reboot the phone which is a rather inconvenience when im looking to get a picture at the time it happens.
I haven't yet tried another camera app to see if the same thing happens. Which I do enjoy Google's camera app and had that on my old Note II, however again I am wondering as to why this is taking place.
A few other things noted the phone this has happened while the phone is unplugged, heat doesn't seem to be a issue atleast for the battery which sits around 30c for wife's and 26c for my mine most of the time (according to cpuz)
So is this something to wait on Lollipop for to maybe be fixed or is this possibly a real hardware issue.
We used to get dropouts too, I recently switched my router to Wireless N only and now all phones and devices get a steady 90 Mbps up and down in our house on a Verizon FIOS 75/75 plan. I've always had dropouts on phones and am surprised that Wireless N made such a difference. Still using the same 2.4ghz frequency that we did on the G network, just zero interference to cause dropouts now.
Update after more issues .. I took it back to the store and we fiddled (the store had a tech who was geeky and it was great) and sure enough we discovered how to duplicate the problem. Also after testing a few other phones it seemed to only happen with ours .. so we wondered if it had to do with our failure of Sandisk cards but who knows (which we are doing a RMA on them).
What happens is under CPU-Z (play store) we noticed even under heavy use only 1-2 cores were being used. It would never use all 4. So we tried gaming and running hard games and background things and sure enough stuff would lag real bad which then would lock up the internet and camera. Then we tried Antutu and it locked up, and score was terrible. It was then we decided the phones had bad cores in it. So Wife exchanged her's and I refunded mine and ordered a developer one .. as ive been waiting over a month for and should have stayed waiting. As for what started it all. We had a batch of the Sandisk Ultras that kept failing however I dont see how that could have been the cause. The sandisk error I guess is very common as soon as I mentioned it they knew all about it and their forums are flooded with posts about it.
So if anyone has these issues test your cores.
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Update after more issues .. I took it back to the store and we fiddled (the store had a tech who was geeky and it was great) and sure enough we discovered how to duplicate the problem. Also after testing a few other phones it seemed to only happen with ours .. so we wondered if it had to do with our failure of Sandisk cards but who knows (which we are doing a RMA on them).
What happens is under CPU-Z (play store) we noticed even under heavy use only 1-2 cores were being used. It would never use all 4. So we tried gaming and running hard games and background things and sure enough stuff would lag real bad which then would lock up the internet and camera. Then we tried Antutu and it locked up, and score was terrible. It was then we decided the phones had bad cores in it. So Wife exchanged her's and I refunded mine and ordered a developer one .. as ive been waiting over a month for and should have stayed waiting. As for what started it all. We had a batch of the Sandisk Ultras that kept failing however I dont see how that could have been the cause. The sandisk error I guess is very common as soon as I mentioned it they knew all about it and their forums are flooded with posts about it.
So if anyone has these issues test your cores.
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This is interesting o: How would one go about doing this? *-*
Is anyone having this issue, I only installed a few apps and widgets, nothing big and now when I click my phone app, it takes almost 2 seconds before the dial pad shows up, same with messages, o was hoping this phone would be the first not to have this issue but it seems like it's an android thing, I deleted most of my apps and still it's slow, which sucks because my wife's iPhone always loads apps quick, I just factory reset and now it's back to being quick but I feel like I can't download my important apps because the more I add the slower it gets
Yup. I'm definitely getting lag. Lots of it to be honest. I'm trying to overlook it, but it's gotten pretty bad today, especially while updating Google play apps in the background.
It's also getting extremely hot on the back, specifically the rear middle, towards the right side.
not much lag to complain but yes I am also facing those heating issues..
I was first told that all phones get hot if you use them while charging but then it has happened thrice now even when I am not charging it.
The heat is pretty bad right at the end of your right thumb..
My S6 was fast the first few days then starting lagging opening hangouts and G+. I closed my open apps and helped a little. I installed clean master and it's back being fast. I have no heat issues.
This supposed to be the fatest phone but it has more lag compared tomy other phone Moto x 2015 amd Htc M8 . unbelievable
Obviously something is making lag that should be able to fix considering it didn't lag out of the box. Or am I wrong? I think I saw that a factory reset fixes it. I might try it at some point but doesn't bother me that much.
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This supposed to be the fatest phone but it has more lag compared tomy other phone Moto x 2015 amd Htc M8 . unbelievable
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then something isn't right, because there is zero lag on this phone..
My S6 just all of a sudden started lagging really bad. Like I had the issue where I would take a picture and would want to check it out and click the gallery app. Man that took like a good few seconds, and it was bothering me really bad. So I decided to do a master reset, and then deal with the bs that the stock messenger would not restore messages from a back up that was done 4 hours before the reset. So yet again this phone is lagging really bad. It is rooted with Nova, and for whatever reasons apps open up slow, they switch slow, and I am irritated that my 2yr old M7 worked faster then this. I have done the developer scale back options as well as Greenify and Debloater and the lag is just unbearable on this new 2015 phone. I have a possibly 70 apps, and I am just wondering what you all have done to circumvent the lag.
I recently observed that my Note 7 have heating up episodes and eventually freeze. I suspected beta apps but I did uninstall all of them. It kept heating up and freeze so I did a full system reset and installed about 2 to 3 apps and it started to heat and freeze again.
Lately I also observed that when I use the camera heavily the phone starts to heat up again and freeze.
My note 7 is due for replacement on October 15 and I still have to suffer these problems for 19 more days.
Any solution on what to do?
Yes, do what they suggested in the recall - power it off and do not use it.
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That's exactly what happened to me. I did replace it with Note 4 until new Note 7 arrives here ( Egypt ).
I think its the battery starting to fry chips .... solution - wait to exchange! My new one is perfect now for over 2 weeks.
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I recently observed that my Note 7 have heating up episodes and eventually freeze. I suspected beta apps but I did uninstall all of them. It kept heating up and freeze so I did a full system reset and installed about 2 to 3 apps and it started to heat and freeze again.
Lately I also observed that when I use the camera heavily the phone starts to heat up again and freeze.
My note 7 is due for replacement on October 15 and I still have to suffer these problems for 19 more days.
Any solution on what to do?
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I too have been having the problems you described, intermittently, freezing mid use, getting warm etc, but it has spells where it gets much much worse.
The phone wouldnt boot, wouldnt go into recovery, would partially boot then freeze, would not "hard reset" would not go into recovery, all intermittently.
I couldnt do a factory reset (which i thought might help) as although i managed to get to recovery (after about 5 tries) it couldnt read any of the memory, maybe this is whats causing the exynos phones to lock up, memory errors?
My phone booted about twenty minutes after the photo was taken, and im writing this post on the phone i was having issues with without doing a factory reset (because it didnt work when i tried) but itll be back sure as day, and ill be very frustrated. I hope my replacement doesnt do the same.
I'm using a new note 7 now and let's see how it will go. I'll update you. According to the store my note 7 fried a few capacitors so when it overheats, it freezes.
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I too have been having the problems you described, intermittently, freezing mid use, getting warm etc, but it has spells where it gets much much worse.
The phone wouldnt boot, wouldnt go into recovery, would partially boot then freeze, would not "hard reset" would not go into recovery, all intermittently.
I couldnt do a factory reset (which i thought might help) as although i managed to get to recovery (after about 5 tries) it couldnt read any of the memory, maybe this is whats causing the exynos phones to lock up, memory errors?
My phone booted about twenty minutes after the photo was taken, and im writing this post on the phone i was having issues with without doing a factory reset (because it didnt work when i tried) but itll be back sure as day, and ill be very frustrated. I hope my replacement doesnt do the same.
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You likely have failing memory on that board. I would replace that phone.
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Been using my v2 for 5 days now. Hasn't gotten anywhere near hot or supringly even warm. I think I got lucky on this one because it's running like a champ. Unless I'm using the phone wrong?
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I have a P3XL that's roughly 1 year old. It's seriously slow and laggy and stutters like none other. If i'm in Chrome and browsing reddit, it can crash from having a long page of images open. Using simultaneous apps like Spotify and Instagram kills the phone. I was using flashlight and making a call at the same time and it crashed.
I originally used stock, that was the same. Switched to Havoc OS and it's pretty much the same. I can only guess this is from poor RAM management. Battery life is crap now too. Doesn't last me till 6:00PM on a low usage day.
Any ROM suggestions? Or is there something here i'm missing? 4GB should be enough... the P2XL was absolutely fine but this is atrocious. I frequently want to toss this device across the room.
You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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You may have a bad battery which is causing voltage/amperage problems and glitching. If you've already done a fresh clean install of the factory OS and still have issues that'd be my next guess.
Did you regularly run it below 20% or until dead?
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I guess it could be a bad battery causing voltage issues. I have done a fresh clean install of factory OS, and still have issues. I would say i'm average when it comes to running it below 20%. I don't do that often, but sometimes it does. I rarely let it die completely.
Best scenario would be to go through Google Support?
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Yeah I gotta say that sounds a battery issue or something else going on. I've been running stock Android 9 rooted with Kira kernel for about half a year now and although there is still a lot of reloading (especially when using chrome or internet browsers with lot of tabs open) it's still snappy and reloads quick. I've never had anything crash.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to test a battery for proper amperage. I know 2 ways to get an estimate on capacity with accubattery and extracting it from a bug report but I don't know if that will help with identify it or not.
It sounds almost identical to the same issue I had with my LG V20 which was a bad battery that would randomly shut down with around 15-25% capacity left when it got that low and when I changed the battery it fixed it
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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Yeah, mine is crashing hard. Hard enough that it's one of the poorest performance phones i've ever had. And that's saying a lot lol.
I'll try to use accubattery today to see what I get. It doesn't shut down at 15% thankfully.
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My V20 wouldn't always die at those ranges but it happened pretty frequently. Do you notice a difference with it plugged in?
I would definitely start from scratch if you really want to troubleshoot this. Backup everything then flash a stock system image from Google with the wipe all command and start from there and see. If it still does it then it is most likely a hardware issue.
Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
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Sounds more like a cache problem to me.....dodgy nand chip. Needs to be replaced no matter whats causing it. If you cant get rid of it after trying everything including swapping the active boot slot from a to be or vise versa
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Thanks for the suggestions and information. I'll try this. Thanks everyone else!
I'm on Android 13 and was hoping this would sort out the overheating problem I had with Android 12 (I read in a few places that it would), but it did not. The phone gets very warm when charging, and hot when streaming video, and just generally through simple use, nothing particularly demanding. I haven't rooted this phone because I did not see the need, but I would consider it if it was the only way to fix the problem. Is anyone experiencing the same, and does anyone have a solution?
I could be wrong but generally speaking in my experience, going from one major upgrade to another the phone works a bit harder to re-train itself to your use patterns. I just did my upgrade yesterday and experienced some slight to moderate heat as well. I also noticed that battery is draining a bit faster which I think again is part of the process. I'm going to give it a week or so and if I'm right it should improve.
I'm biased because I've had my Pixel 6 Pro rooted (and updated every month) since last November, and I also use Kirisakura custom kernel with its companion apps and currently have the one app set to the maximum battery savings.
So I can't really compare to 100% stock unrooted with the stock kernel, as I'm only briefly on the stock unrooted kernel each month after I manually flash the latest update.
Several others have commented, and I've experienced too, that with Android 13, we've no longer experienced as severe higher temperatures when charging. I don't remember if the others were rooted and using the same custom kernel, or if these were general Android 13 comments, so your mileage may vary. Sorry I can't give you any more concrete information.
Good luck!
Granted this is for my 4a5g but I wouln't be suprised if/when I get a 6 that its battery performance would be less than stellar after a good days use of phone and/or screen and radio/network. i.e. stock. Before I went to Lineage on my 4a5g I think my battery would cut a good 30-50+ percent each day. I put lineage on it and I poop you not, can go from a 75% to around 20% in about 5-6+ days. I tend to have my screen brightness around a little less than 1/4th on the slider bar.
When I had an HTC M8, after around 2 or so years (this was around 2016/7 or so. got phone oct '14) on the stock firmware the phone couln't keep it on for more than a day. Ran ViperRom for a bit then switched to cm/lineage and that stretched my usability of the phone another 5 years. It got to the point where the phone would shut off when it got to around %50 charge and go ding dong and turn off--without pluggin it in I had about 8 hours run time on it. My battery was beyond gone and no way would I have gotten that usability on the stock rom.
So, to answer your question, yes, trying different roms and kernels (rooting) could be to your advantage to prolong the life and performance of your phone.
Even if you choose to run the stock OS, with root, you could disble any bloat running in background. Kill any programs/services leeching CPU (and hence battery) cycles. You could definately make it run more efficient for YOU. Maybe not for the next guy who needs his facebook, twitter, ticktok apis and stuff loaded and at the ready. Everyone is different. But they tend to make the phones (they think) for everyone. in mind and as a result, device performance and lifespan become affected.
I definitely have heating issues and this is on a warranty exchange. The 2 previous P6Ps had all the same issues as this current device.
My phone was hot on A12 (41/45°) and since i clean flashed A13 and wiped it is cold (32/35°) for the same usage.
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Good topic.
I have bought this phone a day before. I'm facing device heating even under simple tasks like scrolling messengers, browsing etc.
Previously I had OnePlus 7 Pro (Snapdragon 855), that one was cold all time except while charging or playing games.
However, Pixel looks warm or even hot even upon light using.
I'm a bit confused about that.
Is it a common problem of this device? Or probably exactly my device is affected?
I haven't faced overheating or alerts about that, however, it feels hot for my hands that got used to feel a cold phone while low load.
Currently, I have about 37-38 degrees while browsing on XDA and writing this post.
Just wondering that digits you have?
I did a warranty exchange on my P6P for a different issue and I'm glad I did. My replacement device has much better thermals than my original. My original one would get quite hot while charging and restoring apps and was almost uncomfortable to hold and to the touch. Could always try a warranty exchange and see if the replacement device is better for you. Also, Kiri kernel has been reported to help with the thermals. I've seen several reports of users commenting that their device runs cooler. Good luck!
I had heating issues and battery issues when I first received my P6P. Once I got it out of the box, I set it up and restored backups, rooted it, updated to android 13 without wiping, rooted again, and then flashed the Kirisakura kernel. I decided to try and flash android 13 again but keeping the -w flag to wipe userdata and didnt restore my backups and I've had amazing battery life and no overheating. If you haven't yet, try doing a factory reset. As simple as it sounds it may very well help
My fully stock P6P (on A12) gave an overheat warning yesterday while we were having a day out, it was only 22°C although we were in and out of the sun as the clouds rolled by but the phone was showing 46°C after being sat in my pocket.
I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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I think Google have released the worlds hottest running phone, i have never owned a phone that heats up so much and so fast.
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Try OnePlus 9 Pro
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Thing is I have never experienced overheating on any phone (that i have owned) in UK before, using an Exynos as the basis of Tensor and then whacking an extra big core in it was a pretty bad idea unless you live in a fridge.