Has anyone else noticed that what the system calls 'internal', is actually external storage? And vice-versa? Any way to fix this?
Also is there any way to encrypt external and hopefully internal storage after installing Pantheon? Haqxors (and travellers) want to know...
And finally, is there some way to stop that embarrassing "HELLLO MOTO!!" on boot?
Quantumstate said:
Has anyone else noticed that what the system calls 'internal', is actually external storage? And vice-versa? Any way to fix this?
Also is there any way to encrypt external and hopefully internal storage after installing Pantheon? Haqxors (and travellers) want to know...
And finally, is there some way to stop that embarrassing "HELLLO MOTO!!" on boot?
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I don't see the issue with Storage names, what happens if you remove the sdcard?
For boot sound, go to Setting >>Sound >>Advanced and disable "Power on Sound"
I've now removed the SD and reinserted it (of course while the phone was off), and on boot the internal and SD storage are still reversed. Where it shows how much space is used it is correct, but actually looking at the files the storage is reversed, both in the X-Plore File Manager, and Root Browser.
So it's a mystery about this reversal...
And encryption, which I can't do without.
Quantumstate said:
I've now removed the SD and reinserted it (of course while the phone was off), and on boot the internal and SD storage are still reversed. Where it shows how much space is used it is correct, but actually looking at the files the storage is reversed, both in the X-Plore File Manager, and Root Browser.
So it's a mystery about this reversal...
And encryption, which I can't do without.
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Flash the correct flashall for your device (if you're on Oreo, don't flash any in the linked thread). After that you can get encryption to work again. You can downgrade on Nougat, just be sure to take OTA to update back. Oreo down to nougat isn't currently possible.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/how-to/to-stock-roms-t3672859
I did flashall Nugat. Formatted storage as instructed. But this is what I have.
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Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Hi I have been dealing with this problem for awhile now and still haven't been able to find a fix (without rooting). After I updated JB from Kies when it came out my internal and memory card folders are completely different? Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory. The internal memory folder says :sdcard0. And my memory card folder is: extSdCard? I'm not rooted. Does anyone know how to get the folders back to the regular names ext sd ect? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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That is how it they are formatted now. It's not a mistake or anything being messed up. I guess I'm just used the internal being sdcard0 and ex sd card being extsdcard. I don't use myfiles much. I use root explorer and it can displays it as storage and then inside that folder is extsdcard and sdcard. Or there is a fodler just called sdcard for the internal in the root of the file system.
What problem is it creating, other than just being different than you are used to ?
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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i'll try not to rant too hard but Kies and OTA firmware updates are a joke. you are essentially dirty flashing one rom over another with no real clearing of caches, no resetting, no way for all the programs to regroup, rebuild and run on the system hardware/software properly. the thing about dirty flashing is, it sticks well with some devices but generally not with many others. you'll see these types of issues many times among the avid flashers and those that must have the latest release of a developers rom.
i would recommend backing everything up, booting into stock recovery, wiping data/factory reset and wiping cache. if you decide to perform another update via kies in the future, i would do this procedure before AND after the update.
yes, you have to start over when you perform these sorts of actions but you have to ask yourself, are you happy with how your device is performing now (before the update)? is it worth starting over? (it might be if you're going to run on the updated OS for a year or so) and how well do you want it to perform after you install the update?
cheers
EDIT: i just assume everyone accesses recovery and download mode so i didnt post the button combo. recovery is: Volume Up + Home + Power. release just the power button when you get a vibrate.
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Also it says I only have 11.95GB total in my internal memory.
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This is normal for a 16GB SGS3. 16GB is advertised but actual formatted available space is less. 11.95GB is right on par. This is the case for just about all devices that have memory that is writable, including hard drives on a computer.
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I cannot use the Apps2sd app anymore. And basically I would just like to be like before the update.
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Any particular reason why you are using Apps2sd? $10 to $20 will land you an external memory card with huge amounts of space (32GB at least). This is plenty to store music, photos, and other misc. files. And even with a ton of apps installed to internal, you still should have ample space left over. There is just no good reason to use Apps2sd on this phone as it has so much internal memory. If this is just to keep you from losing data, then I would suggest rooting and using an app such as Titanium Backup as it makes it super easy to restore apps and the corresponding data after anything that requires a factory reset.
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Yhea, i'm having some trouble too. After the update my extCard is totally mess-up. The folders with the pictures and songs are not recognized, and the Gallery doesn't show hundreds of pictures, but i see if i use a file manager. I've synced all my songs so far, but with the pictures is a mess: seems also the format is not recognized anymore and with Kies i'm not seeing a way for put the pictures in the new folder named "Photo". It's really frustrating.
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As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
As stated by xBeerDroidx, factory reset from stock recovery. You will have to re-setup your device but it will be a one time frustration for now until the next update.
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Actually i did.
After the update, without factory reset, everything was (almost) fine… except a strange malfunction of the Gps (lock signal lost after a while) and sporadic reboot without reason. For the Gps I’ve found here the solution (NV Rebuild), but for the reboot… I wasn’t sure about it. So I decided for a factory reset. After that my ext card, with the ICS paths, was not recognized. So bucked up everything, format the ext card and let Kies sync my files and create all the folders needed from JB: Camera Photo Video for pictures, and media for the music. Now I’m let’s say 90% ready to go… I’m curios to test especially the Gps.
Is it possible to install a custom rom on my HTC 10 (bootloader unlocked, rooted) and keep the adopted storage option?
There are a distinct lack of options in TWRP when searching for zip files... I'm not sure what folder it actually shows, but in choice of location options I am given External SD (0Mb) and USB OTG (0Mb).
I couldn't get Xposed installed coz it wouldn't find the .zip file, until I took out the SD card and replaced it with one that wasn't previously used as adoptive storage. That had the .zip on, and it worked fine... I then replaced the original SD card and all seems OK, but I'm not sure this would work with a Custom ROM?
Any help/suggestions?
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Is it possible to install a custom rom on my HTC 10 (bootloader unlocked, rooted) and keep the adopted storage option?
There are a distinct lack of options in TWRP when searching for zip files... I'm not sure what folder it actually shows, but in choice of location options I am given External SD (0Mb) and USB OTG (0Mb).
I couldn't get Xposed installed coz it wouldn't find the .zip file, until I took out the SD card and replaced it with one that wasn't previously used as adoptive storage. That had the .zip on, and it worked fine... I then replaced the original SD card and all seems OK, but I'm not sure this would work with a Custom ROM?
Any help/suggestions?
Cheers
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Yes. When you boot into a freshly-installed ROM (and assuming you've wiped everything, as you should have), you'll have the option to set up adopted storage with your SD card, just as you did when you initially put it into your device.
This also assumes whatever ROM you install hasn't disabled adopted storage, but I can't think of any offhand that do.
BlueMeany68 said:
Is it possible to install a custom rom on my HTC 10 (bootloader unlocked, rooted) and keep the adopted storage option?
There are a distinct lack of options in TWRP when searching for zip files... I'm not sure what folder it actually shows, but in choice of location options I am given External SD (0Mb) and USB OTG (0Mb).
I couldn't get Xposed installed coz it wouldn't find the .zip file, until I took out the SD card and replaced it with one that wasn't previously used as adoptive storage. That had the .zip on, and it worked fine... I then replaced the original SD card and all seems OK, but I'm not sure this would work with a Custom ROM?
Any help/suggestions?
Cheers
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Was going to try this at the weekend.......in theory it becomes 1 massive internal storage, but if twrp is only giving you option for external SD or USB it sounds like it doesn't support this new feature yet. I'm going to try it this weekend I'll post here if it works for me or not
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Yes. When you boot into a freshly-installed ROM (and assuming you've wiped everything, as you should have), you'll have the option to set up adopted storage with your SD card, just as you did when you initially put it into your device.
This also assumes whatever ROM you install hasn't disabled adopted storage, but I can't think of any offhand that do.
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Thanks, that sounds helpful. The only problem I have with that is getting the phone to find/read the ROMs .zip file. I'm clicking cancel on the first 'de-encrypt' popup in TWRP but then on second, swiping to allow system to be modified but for the life of me I can't seem to get it to find .zip files (originally bluetoothed over, but then moved via Root Explorer - set to RW mode - into various folders within system)
Hi XDA,
I'm struggeling with my SD-Card after moving to lineage 14.1 (Coming from CM 13).
Installation worked just fine, but now i can not access my SD-Card from the phone and even not from PC (over the phone). I mounted it as an internal drive on CM to extend my storage.
The System recognizes the Card, but only gives me the options to format the Card and use it as internal storage or format and use it as an external storage.
Could it be, that the Card cannot be used, because it was formated as an internal storage under CM 13?
If anybody has an Idea, how i get access to the files please tell me
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Hi XDA,
I'm struggeling with my SD-Card after moving to lineage 14.1 (Coming from CM 13).
Installation worked just fine, but now i can not access my SD-Card from the phone and even not from PC (over the phone). I mounted it as an internal drive on CM to extend my storage.
The System recognizes the Card, but only gives me the options to format the Card and use it as internal storage or format and use it as an external storage.
Could it be, that the Card cannot be used, because it was formated as an internal storage under CM 13?
If anybody has an Idea, how i get access to the files please tell me
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Maybe this can help.
Decrypt_adopted_storage
Sotiris02 said:
Maybe this can help.
Decrypt_adopted_storage
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Sadly not, I wiped all Data (except SD-Card) due to install the new System. So thers no Key in "/data/misc/vold"
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Sadly not, I wiped all Data (except SD-Card) due to install the new System. So thers no Key in "/data/misc/vold"
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I think you can't do anything now..
Only formatting it via PC(using command prompt..)
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I think you can't do anything now..
Only formatting it via PC(using command prompt..)
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That would be worst case. :/
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That would be worst case. :/
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In the past while i was having a Moto G3,i got it to Marshmallow,made the SD card Internal like and about a month i got it stolen.But the good point was that i had removed the SD card.
Checked Google nothing useful.
Asked Motorola for any decryption tips,Nothing useful from Motorola.
And i couldn't stay with a encrypted SD card.. I formatted it(after making the "big choice" and it was back to factory stats..)
But the only thing that i didn't do,is that i didn't ask Google for support. Because Motorola makes pure stock Android but with some of Motorola apps and features.
As you was in AOSP based ROM (even if you was to LG's stock,Google could help) go ask Google gently for any solution(if you had important files,then surely they will help)
haha i had the same problem but the solution is very very easy just reboot into your recovery open recovery file manager and delete Android secure folder in your SD card.
thats all you need
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haha i had the same problem but the solution is very very easy just reboot into your recovery open recovery file manager and delete Android secure folder in your SD card.
thats all you need
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Deleting "Android Secure" folder (there is no such a folder even in hidden files) won't do anything.
Also a thing that you should learn.(Because it seems you don't)
When your SD card is formated as internal you can't access it via TWRP a PC or even an other phone.
Because it gets encrypted.
Have a nice day.
Sotiris02 said:
Also a thing that you should learn.(Because it seems you don't)
When your SD card is formated as internal you can't access it via TWRP a PC or even an other phone.
Because it gets encrypted.
Have a nice day.
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Yea, i did not know that. If i had, i would have made an SD Backup
But I still have not formated the SD Card, I am still hoping :fingers-crossed:
subersauger said:
Yea, i did not know that. If i had, i would have made an SD Backup
But I still have not formated the SD Card, I am still hoping :fingers-crossed:
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It cant be undone. Sorry to say. I learned this the hard way also. When you put it in lineage, you remember it asking about how you wanted to format it (movable or integrated)
You chose integrated mode. That encrypted it and counted it as device storage. No unencrypting it. Also if you blew away that lineage install, its totally not able to be read anymore. It stored the only decrypt key in the lineageOS keystore.
sad times.
Sotiris02 said:
Deleting "Android Secure" folder (there is no such a folder even in hidden files) won't do anything.
Also a thing that you should learn.(Because it seems you don't)
When your SD card is formated as internal you can't access it via TWRP a PC or even an other phone.
Because it gets encrypted.
Have a nice day.
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Ah yes u right but you can access it as internal. Recvery will ecognise it anyways and you can delete this folder...
Btw this worked for me i had the same problem. And NO there is the folder named "Android secure" definition-- Android.secure is the folder where stock froyo android moves apps to the sd card by default. If you don't use the apps presently, you can safely remove the corresponding app files from the android.secure folder.
hi folks,
So i chose the wrong SD card handling (the merged kind?) a while ago and after ejecting the card to set up a bigger one, I realise I now can't access the internal storage on the phone.
installed apps work fine
I can remove apps fine (but not reinstall!)
i can sideload apps fine (oddy!)
I cannot access e.g. photos with gallery apps
file browser apps cant access the internal space at all.
I cannot install anything from the play store, it just shows insuffucient space
apps like twitter crash.
whatsapp works (calls and text), but cant download photos sent, or attach photos.
There is loads of space free (14.65gb used of 32gb internal).
I also have an SD card with loads of space now set as portable storage.
I have the original SD card that was in before, but not in phone (still shows in storage manager).
Any ideas please?! Before i reset the phone and start again!
I have rooted it, but not sure what to fiddle with (the problem started before rooting).
nope? ok i guess i'll be wiping and hoping that fixes it!
moving to another phone for a while...
just to be clear, doing a full reset on the phone while rooted with magisk is ok? (unlocked bl). don't want to brick. android 10 up to date.
thanks, if anyone out there?
alright for the record and anyone else suffering this, i figured it out, and is slightly embarrassingly stupid.
if you set up the sd as combined storage, and still have the sd, put it back in and use the migrate data back to internal option which is hidden in the storage dot top right menu. voila.
then you can eject card, and still access the internal storage.
what you do if you've already wiped the old sd, i've no idea! you're maybe stuffed? hopefully wiping phone would fix it??
don't ever set your sd card as merged, use portable (i knew this, was a mistake).
so anyway, phone working again yay!
This post documents a method of enabling Adoptable Storage with adb commands on sony phones where previously similar solutions seem hard to find. Please link similar methods if they exist somewhere else, I am curious to read.
Personal success on SO-02K (NTT DoCoMo XZ1c ) fw version 47.2.B.5.38 Android Pie, 128G A2 card.
The method results in a fraction of the microSD Card being recognised by the system to be able to transfer apps to, and another fraction where the sd card remains external storage.
The Stock Camera will only be able to save to the mentioned external storage partition after this process, and it will fail to save to internal storage.
Some apps may not work when transferred to the sd card and have to stay in onboard storage.
Premise
I carried out the process with a freshly flashed phone, with a minimal amount of apps present in the system. I cannot guarantee same success with an almost-full phone, although in principle it should be the same. If anyone has success on a more full system please let me and others know.
ADB Debugging should be turned on in developer options and authorization of PC given in advance; root or bl unlock not necessary.
SD Card will be WIPED in the process. For your data's safety do backup everything on your phone, both internal memory and external memory before proceeding! Don't yell at me if in the end it'll have to be restored.
Process
adb shell
sm list-disks this should return two integers such as 179,0
sm partition disk:179,0 mixed xx where the 179,0 should be your result in step 2 and xx be the amount of space reserved for /sdcard ; wait until command finishes. For the mixed xx see Miscellaneous#2 for explanation. Please also reply if you know the command to revert the changes made in this step, because I'd expect it be useful in the future and I don't know what it is.
Turn on force allow apps on external in bottom of developer settings if haven't done so.
Open camera app, click on OK until warnings go away, then set save directory in SD Card. Test if it saves successfully, if not, see Miscellaneous#1.
Reboot, then try moving some apps to your sd card! Some core function apps are not movable; that is to be expected.
Miscellaneous
If your camera won't allow you to open up settings (keeps saying cannot save), then you have run into a problem I have never seen before. If you can go into camera settings but the SD Card option is greyed out, that means either you have not reserved enough space in mixed xx or the command may have gone wrong. Or the card may not be in perfect condition for Adoptable Storage. You can unplug the sd card to see if the camera works fine after that, but I haven't tried that. If anyone knows the corresponding command to revert the changes made in Process#3, please let everyone know!
The mixed xx part allows a part of the sd card to remain.... an sd card. xx% of the space in your card will be recognised as external(portable) storage by your phone, and is readable by a PC. This portion will be the place where your future photos and videos are saved in, as the camera will fail saving to internal space. Thus you may want to use the fastest card you have and set xx based on your use patterns. The other part, the (100-xx) % of space is recognised by the phone as internal storage that it can put apps in, although some apps (especially some games) will still save assets in the phone's on board storage no matter where you move the main app.
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Thanks for sharing this but in my experience it does not work. I followed the guide and It looks like it worked, however now I don't understand how to move the apps away from the internal memory to exploit the new storage space provided by the SD "internal" memory... each time I try to move an app I get a "not enough memory" error message although there are about 64Gb free, no matter what app I try moving. I also noticed that deleting an app from the phone and then re-installing the app in the phone will finally install it in the SD but several apps I tried didn't work any more once re-installed in the SD storage.
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Thanks for sharing this but in my experience it does not work. I followed the guide and It looks like it worked, however now I don't understand how to move the apps away from the internal memory to exploit the new storage space provided by the SD "internal" memory... each time I try to move an app I get a "not enough memory" error message although there are about 64Gb free, no matter what app I try moving. I also noticed that deleting an app from the phone and then re-installing the app in the phone will finally install it in the SD but several apps I tried didn't work any more once re-installed in the SD storage.
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Hi and Merry Christmas!
I do get system warnings saying the phone is full while it isn't; it seems that Android freaks out a little trying to gather disk usage info when the SD card is merged with internal space. However I can move most non-system-apps.
Did you move the app with the (Press&Hold App Icon)->App Info ->Storage->Change function? I found I didn't include this part in the original writing and might have been a source of confusion. Assuming it was done in App Info, could you tell me what apps don't work, and perhaps I can try on my phone. I also wonder how much storage did you allocate to each of the two partitions on the SD card.
Another potential source of error is the card itself, in some cases, the card may have bad blocks that Android doesn't correct for and cause read problems, as my SD card now begins to show. Sometimes I wake up to see my home screen devoid of apps, and I have to reinsert and restart the phone multiple times before the SD card gets recognized by the phone again.
Did you move the app with the (Press&Hold App Icon)->App Info ->Storage->Change function?
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yes.
Assuming it was done in App Info, could you tell me what apps don't work
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all. I was not able to move any app.
I also wonder how much storage did you allocate to each of the two partitions on the SD card
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50% of 128Gb, that is 64Gb each.
Another potential source of error is the card itself
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it doesn't seem the card, since the remaining 64Gb left for external storage, that is where the camera app is saving photos and videos and some other apps save data, still works fine.
Here it is the screenshot of how Android now sees the storage configuration (android settings > storage) after I performed the procedure described above for configuring adoptable storage (writings are in Italian but I think it should be easy to understand).
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Here it is the screenshot of how Android now sees the storage configuration (android settings > storage) after I performed the procedure described above for configuring adoptable storage (writings are in Italian but I think it should be easy to understand).
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mine looks the same. I don't know what to suggest. I'll look around on other forums to see if people have the same problem.
This post is re-written from original post in Chinese which in turn is adapted from a lost post on gfan.com.
It also turns out that googling sm partition would give a lot of information most dated back to android 6.
I've been looking around as well, but was able to find only people reporting failures in enabling odoptable storage on Sony devices. However, one difference between your phone and mine is fw version: mine has 47.2.A.11.228 (no brand) - don't know if this can make any real difference.
By the way, I'm wondering whether it could be possibile to install a rarely-used app in the internal memory, then "park" the app in the SD card's external memory by moving its files, then eventually move it back to internal memory only in the case you need opening that app. If it works, it could be a trick for keeping all the apps you want "freezed" in the phone, by taking the usually unused apps in the external memory, then moving one of them in the internal memory only in the rare circumstance you need using it. Then moving it back to the external memory if you think you won't use it any more for a long period. Obviously one could simply uninstall and reinstall those rarely-used apps on occurrence, but that would take more time, consume data traffic and lose the app existing data, so I think that >IF< this kind of trick could be feasible, I'd go for it.
indago said:
I've been looking around as well, but was able to find only people reporting failures in enabling odoptable storage on Sony devices. However, one difference between your phone and mine is fw version: mine has 47.2.A.11.228 (no brand) - don't know if this can make any real difference.
By the way, I'm wondering whether it could be possibile to install a rarely-used app in the internal memory, then "park" the app in the SD card's external memory by moving its files, then eventually move it back to internal memory only in the case you need opening that app. If it works, it could be a trick for keeping all the apps you want "freezed" in the phone, by taking the usually unused apps in the external memory, then moving one of them in the internal memory only in the rare circumstance you need using it. Then moving it back to the external memory if you think you won't use it any more for a long period. Obviously one could simply uninstall and reinstall those rarely-used apps on occurrence, but that would take more time, consume data traffic and lose the app existing data, so I think that >IF< this kind of trick could be feasible, I'd go for it.
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Striking news in the new year-- my sd doesn't work now. Yesterday I checked everything worked, but now no apps installed on my sd card open. using sm list-volumes shows both internal and portable partitions on the SD are mounted, but the apps still refuse to open.
The card looks like it's corrupted, now the two partitions can't even be recognized with my card reader, I guess I'm screwed.
at my asus max m2 .... working, camera, i can move app to sd card and they still works
butttt the only thing is at settings/storage/ information; it shows numbers that dont are correct and a option "to forget sd card " ?!?!?
well i don't know.....