First, yes I know the stuff about how they want to use digital and stuff, I understand this, thanks for assuming I have never used android before. Now, I have a nice analog dongle with a charging port and a aux fort I got for 5 bucks off amazon, I would like to use it but its analog. I have rooted my phone with magisk and am willing to take large measures to not have to pay 20 bucks for a decent dongle. It is stupid how much it costs. I assume its a kernel issue but I am not sure about that.
Long story short, it's not a kernel issue. There is no DAC hardware in the phone.
Gido5731 said:
First, yes I know the stuff about how they want to use digital and stuff, I understand this, thanks for assuming I have never used android before. Now, I have a nice analog dongle with a charging port and a aux fort I got for 5 bucks off amazon, I would like to use it but its analog. I have rooted my phone with magisk and am willing to take large measures to not have to pay 20 bucks for a decent dongle. It is stupid how much it costs. I assume its a kernel issue but I am not sure about that.
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The Google dongle is only $10
You can't use an analog single because there is no DAC inside the phone. Your dongle must include a DAC or you're just wasting your time.
PuffDaddy_d said:
The Google dongle is only $10
You can't use an analog single because there is no DAC inside the phone. Your dongle must include a DAC or you're just wasting your time.
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That sucks, I bought a five dollar usb c aux combo thing but it's analog, the digital ones are 17 bucks cheapest, there's no way to setup s virtual one?
Gido5731 said:
That sucks, I bought a five dollar usb c aux combo thing but it's analog, the digital ones are 17 bucks cheapest, there's no way to setup s virtual one?
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Like I said, you can't covert a digital signal with an analog dongle.
The pixel dongle is only $10. Just buy it
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Like I said, you can't covert a digital signal with an analog dongle.
The pixel dongle is only $10. Just buy it
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As I said before, I need the dual inputs, and my question was more related to if could have a service (or similar) be a dac on board for analog then just work. And no, I will not be shredding another 50 dollars on a super expensive, bulky adapter from Google
EDIT: TO clarify, I want to output a analog signal, emulate a DAC essdentially, and I know theres a google one, just the one with 2 ports costs 50 dollars.
Gido5731 said:
As I said before, I need the dual inputs, and my question was more related to if could have a service (or similar) be a dac on board for analog then just work. And no, I will not be shredding another 50 dollars on a super expensive, bulky adapter from Google
EDIT: TO clarify, I want to output a analog signal, emulate a DAC essdentially, and I know theres a google one, just the one with 2 ports costs 50 dollars.
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Sorry, I didn't realize you wanted the adapter that charges your phone and has a 3.5mm audio jack. That being said, the answer is that you won't find anything like that for 5, 10, 15, or even 20 dollars. Physical hardware is required to make this work and that costs money. For now, you'll just have to pay to play.
PuffDaddy_d said:
Sorry, I didn't realize you wanted the adapter that charges your phone and has a 3.5mm audio jack. That being said, the answer is that you won't find anything like that for 5, 10, 15, or even 20 dollars. Physical hardware is required to make this work and that costs money. For now, you'll just have to pay to play.
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Hmm... Well thanks anyways, if anyone makes/finds a solution message me, I really want this.
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I was wondering if i could grab a normal mini-usb to usb cable, cut the normal usb ending and sold the audio wires to a 3.5mm jack, so to use it with any audio device.
I just need to know wich of the wires inside the usb are the ones wich carry audio?
if i'm able to make it will make a tutorial although my english it's not that good
just so i don't have to break the original wire.
thanks
Not really - it can't be done
Here's the pin-out diagram
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
but you would noticed that the "miniUSB" socket on the Touch is actually a 2 in 1 device, a standard mini USB only have the bottom connection which deals with normal data traffic and charging, the top connectors carries the audio which the standard mini USB don't connect to (physically it can't).
But you can buy specially made adaptor to provide USB to audio sold on this site or elsewhere, such device make use of the more special connector to connect with the audio side.
I have 2 of such adaptor, they cost around USD15 a piece. Yes a bit more expensive than normal USB but they look neat
yeah, i wrote the post beforing having my elf, wich luckily was en ELFIN i'm really happy with it, i received it 3 hours ago
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Tranworld said:
I have 2 of such adaptor, they cost around USD15 a piece. Yes a bit more expensive than normal USB but they look neat
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I paid mine about 3/4 euros....
Have a look here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...egory=10364&tc=photo&_trksid=p1713.m153.l1262
And this is STEREO quality....
i'm from argentina so, i can't buy on ebay. The only adaptor here cost aprox U$S 35
that's expensive but it's my only choice
Just purchased my adapter from ebay and got it the other day... Works great. I have it connected to an FM transmitter so that all the audio (mp3's and gps audio) out to my car strereo.
Right after I purchased the unit I looked around and saw one with a built in microphone so I could have made it into a handsfree unit and have the audio go over the car stereo... DOH! I may do the upgrade in the next month. The adapter I got with shipping only cost 8 dollars.
cbaty said:
i'm from argentina so, i can't buy on ebay. The only adaptor here cost aprox U$S 35
that's expensive but it's my only choice
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cbaty,
i'm from brazil and i found this site about adapter http://www.expansys.com.br/p.aspx?i=149937...
i don't know if works very well and if is possible to sell to argentina...
but, you can try....
I purchased a mini usb to rca cable advertised for use with the Moto Razr phones. I know that the car charger for those phones works for my HTC. Heck, I could even charge my phone from my PS3 mini usb cables meant for charging controllers.
I received the cable today and I can't get it to work with anything.
Initially I tried it with my car's aux input. No workey.
Tried it on my home stereo. No workey.
I guess my assumption of this cable working for me was wrong. The only way I can get audio out of my HTC is with the supplied headset. Does anyone know how to convert that to RCA instead of 3.5mm?
Thanks.
The regular mini usb cables don't carry audio from the HTC Touch. That's why the earphone's they give you have a different connector, it looks like a mini USB but it's not.
It's easy to take apat the HTC earbuds and splice them to a 3.5mm jack so you can use standard earbuds. I did it and it took less than 5 min. There is another thread about it here somewhere with a step by step and everything.
i hav modified the original hands free, removed the earpieces and soldered a 3.5 mm socket into the call receive / volume adjust part. working fine so far ...
I did the same, but I broke the mic while soldering
Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the elf handsfree so I can know what I am trying to fix?
abt d port
hey.....u get d branded mini usb to 3.5mm jack in htc accessories.........jus chk it out buddy....
cbaty said:
i'm from argentina so, i can't buy on ebay. The only adaptor here cost aprox U$S 35
that's expensive but it's my only choice
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There are two types, one is a usb connector and a short cable to a earphone socket, and one is all in one...
I can get them in the UK on ebay for around $5 - add the same again for postage, and I'll get one and mail it to you - Paypal me when you get it... if you want me to, let me know and I'll work out the exact costs.
Here's some links, like I said, find one you want, I can buy it here and ship it for you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stereo-Headph...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-5mm-Headpho...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
If I am not mistaken, you can do one better - not only you get USB to 3.5, it will include the handsfree clip-on controls (mic, answer button, volume etc), allowing you to use the earphones of your choice. Which was the absolute must for me, because my ears are too small for the regular plugs. Not only that, most earphones included in the box are average quality at best, none will beat Sennheiser anyway.
I got one like that for my LG Prada, because the buggers use proprietary connector, which sucks. Paid $4.50 USD with FREE delivery to New Zealand. Can't beat that, I think. Let me see if the same seller has one for Elf.
Something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/e12M-3-5mm-Adap...39:1|66:2|65:15|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
enigma1nz said:
If I am not mistaken, you can do one better - not only you get USB to 3.5, it will include the handsfree clip-on controls (mic, answer button, volume etc), allowing you to use the earphones of your choice. Which was the absolute must for me, because my ears are too small for the regular plugs. Not only that, most earphones included in the box are average quality at best, none will beat Sennheiser anyway.
I got one like that for my LG Prada, because the buggers use proprietary connector, which sucks. Paid $4.50 USD with FREE delivery to New Zealand. Can't beat that, I think. Let me see if the same seller has one for Elf.
Something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/e12M-3-5mm-Adap...39:1|66:2|65:15|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Yes, there are a few options - I personally don't like the handsfree adaptop becasue you end up with too many wires in your packet... I use mine with some sennheiser phones with short cable, to make it neater.
I do have a set of Motorola S9 bluetooth headphones which work great, but you do get the very occasional cut out, and you have to remember to keep them charged up....
I think the all-in-one-block adaptor is the neatest for keeping everything tidy and untangled.
i got the A-200 HTC audio adapter it's gr8 ... usb (IN) and 3.5 , 2.5 , usb mini for headset and usb for charger (OUT)
it's really gr8 .. but i have a small problem ... sometimes the voice dailing work by itself !!
i mean the voice speed dail prog works and ask me to say the name to call ,,, and as the music in on or if iam talking ..the device go wiz the nearest voice tag and call !!!
and when i called the service center the told me tht may be the prob, with the adapter!!
anyone have the same prob ?
help........Who have 'iswish'
I come from China, who have the iswish this software? Is it all right to give me 1? thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
wher can I get this in india??
hey, here you are
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3141/p3300extusb.jpg
Thank you very for this one, i really need this.
I would like to be able to connect my Evo to my car so that I can listen to Pandora using the car stereo. Unfortunately my car only has an Ipod dock connector.
Would it be possible to create an adapter that will allow you to connect an HTC Evo to an Ipod dock and output audio?
I have seen something similar being done with a T-Mobile G1.
webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
Is it just as simple as getting a Ipod dock extender cable like this one:
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6828
and cutting off the male and of this cable and soldering it to a male end of microusb cable?
Any help would be appreciated.
this is a huge area where android needs improvement.
There's no audio through the Evo USB port. I was searching for the same thing last night. I have a logitech ipod speaker: (can't post links)
I also have this ipod bluetooth adapter:
What I'm thinking about doing is to hardwire the bluetooth adapter to the inside of the speaker. Then get the 5v from the dock and make a cable or adapter to go to the Evo's mini usb port. It's not the best solution, but I do have all of the parts already. If I didn't, headphones would suffice.
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
speedracerbubba said:
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
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Hence my bluetooth idea.
I did some digging around a couple weeks ago and came across this
talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
It sucks you need the 3.5 adapter, but better than letting letting a perfectly good dock sit and collect dust.
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I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
oooo ^ good find. picked up two myself.
I've been using one of these in my car for about 6 months now, originally it was to have audio from netbook. It has now been doing me good on the evo.
*correct the link and bingo... Cant post the real link because of my noobness
w w w.cablejive.com/products/Dock-Input-Cable.html
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Step 1: Buy some Sugru or ShapeLock
Step 2: Buy Cheapie $1 headphones
Step 3: Buy iPod female Dock connector and MicroUSB Male end
Step 4: Use Pinout.ru to connect the points appropriately (iPod dock connector pins are pretty small and you must work quickly or your will melt the plastic, do not forget the internal resistors if needed for your application)
Step 5: Wrap it up in Sugru or Shapelock (use hairdryer to smooth it out with your hands)
Step 6: Paint and Enjoy!
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
You could also just buy this:
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
FIPO Bluetooth
I use this in my BMW for streaming over the bluetooth to the stereo. Works great and convient to just start the car and the Evo start playing music/podcast/etc.
FIPO Amazon Sprint search will turn up the 20 dollar adapter.
Childofthehorn said:
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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Some of us do have the necessary skills, but do not want a ugly wire staring us in the face. Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components. That is the main reason we come here, because someone may already be on the job.
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears. But definitely thanks for the link.
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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now that is sweet! best solution yet!
What if we took audio out from the HDMI port?
Brutal-Force said:
Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components.
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True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
Brutal-Force said:
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears.
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I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
Brutal-Force said:
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
JoeBass said:
I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
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Great find! Just ordered one for myself
Childofthehorn said:
True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
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Well, that was a mouthfull. Thanks though, it helps a little. I did spend quite a while researching different Bluetooth headsets. But alas, as you have pointed out, although most of what is considered to be high end headsets, still only use bluetooth 2.0. The EVO also doesn't do a very good job at streaming bluetooth. Pandora and Music Player skip horribly. I was not aware that Meridian did a better job. I guess, that might have been another option.
As far as the bluetooth headsets go though, if your looking for A2DP, the selection is still limited, unless you want a dongle type headset, which IMO, you might as well use a wire. The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat. Then comes the Car audio as well as home audio into play. I use mine as a MP3 player both on the go and in the car. My car has a Audio In jack, so I am happy with that.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Well, that was a mouthful....
The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Yeah, The E5 is a decent beginner set. You may want to look at building a CMoy at some point, make sure to use slightly larger electrolytic caps and good film caps (resistors don't matter as much). If you make one with good parts and socketed chip, you can roll in to your flavor and it will take portable amps that are $100 or more to beat it. As far as kit amps go, its hard to beat a Mini3 for $100 to put together yourself.
I only say this as a person who actually owns a $450 Portable Amp and $575 Custom triple driver In-ear's. Don't even get me started about the stuff that is at home (I have way too much audio crap!)
BTW - you can make your own custom silicone ear pieces by using some Sugru or if you know an audiologist, you can get some of the Westone two part silicone that they normally use for getting impressions. As with everything, be careful and YMMV.
I wish i had the time to work on getting a USB host for the EVO so that we could use external USB DAC's (like the very small alien and grub).
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Just ordered this too. The cable I ordered from Bestofferbuy . c o m was backordered, so I canceled. I agree with you, this should do the trick, saw it on another forum and looks like it will also allow some steering wheel functionality.
I ordered two through amazon, also found it on geek . com. Searching either with "Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Reciever" will get you there.
IS there a 3.5mm/charging cable you can buy that will work with the pixel that will charge and be able to listen to headphones at the same time.
theolondon said:
IS there a 3.5mm/charging cable you can buy that will work with the pixel that will charge and be able to listen to headphones at the same time.
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It's on Google's website - Moshi USB-C to 3.5 mm Adapter/Charger ($44.95)
https://store.google.com/us/product/moshi_usb_c_headphone_adapter_charger?hl=en-US
https://store.google.com/product/moshi_usb_c_headphone_adapter_charger
not available to the uk and also nearly $50. anything similar but cheaper
theolondon said:
not available to the uk and also nearly $50. anything similar but cheaper
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Maybe this one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DISDIM-Hea...id=1507789656&sr=8-3&keywords=USB-C+to+3.5+mm
jerryhou85 said:
Maybe this one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DISDIM-Hea...id=1507789656&sr=8-3&keywords=USB-C+to+3.5+mm
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I have something similar. I tried them on my current pixel, but they do not work. Maybe they need something like the P2 in order to do so.
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Also hoping someone makes this adapter soon, charging $45 from Google store seems crazy to me.
While I agree its crazy. So is listening to headphone while tied to the wall. Lol
ggreenwood334 said:
While I agree its crazy. So is listening to headphone while tied to the wall. Lol
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Tied to wall... Or, he could be trying to charge while the aux is in his vehicle. Maybe he travels a lot and sits at the charging station at the airport. Doing work/homework and wants to listen to music. Maybe there's a side hustle and use square payment platform for hours and hours.
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i charge my phone while listening to earbuds to fall asleep at night. this isn't that crazy of a need.
Don_Perrignon said:
Tied to wall... Or, he could be trying to charge while the aux is in his vehicle. Maybe he travels a lot and sits at the charging station at the airport. Doing work/homework and wants to listen to music. Maybe there's a side hustle and use square payment platform for hours and hours.
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You forgot the "not near a car or wall charger, using an external battery/charger" scenario...
I thought about it
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princeplanet said:
I have something similar. I tried them on my current pixel, but they do not work. Maybe they need something like the P2 in order to do so.
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All the USB C audio adapters I've seen on amazon are for analog audio USB C. A key sign of this is that's for 'Moto Z' which only does USB C analog audio...
What we need is USB C 'digital' audio adapters, which in turn must have a DAC on the adapter itself. I agree with everyone that the charging+listening adapter for $40 is too much. The form factor is also too big. But I'd expect with time we'll see real cheap adapters for the Pixel 2 coming out.
im looking for type c to type c Adapter/Charger because i have JBL headset type c
ggreenwood334 said:
While I agree its crazy. So is listening to headphone while tied to the wall. Lol
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Not so crazy... As soon as I get in my car, my phone goes in the car dock and in goes the USB-C car charger and audio cable as android auto comes to life. That's an hour or two of my phone use every day so it's a critical need that I will need to resolve.
This thing is now available on the Moshi site but not the Google store, I wonder if it is the same item?
https://www.moshi.com/usb-c-digital-audio-adapter-with-charging
Or what I'm doing now - stuck on a four hour conference call.
at this point this is the only item pushing me towards the V30. Adding another $50 plus item onto an already expensive phone is just too much. Have an older car where I need to charge/headphone jack out to my radio.
The Pixel 2 XL's bluetooth has aptX HD. Get some aptX headphones and move on to the future.
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The Pixel 2 XL's bluetooth has aptX HD. Get some aptX headphones and move on to the future.
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Doesn't help those that are looking for dual charge/headphone use now does it?
Info from Ohgami_Ichiro on compatible Pixel 2 headphone adapters:
There's more options now it appears.
BASEVS $17.90 https://www.amazon.com/Basevs-Earpho...dp/B077GT9MTD/
CONMDEX $17.90 https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-CONMD...dp/B077GS8G3N/
FARACENT $17.90 https://www.amazon.com/adapter-Farac...dp/B077FJH6WT/
AirsFish $17.90 https://www.amazon.com/Upgrade-AirsF...dp/B077GVVLQZ/
These 4 appear to be the same with different brand names on them and they use a Realtek Chip compared to the Geekria one that uses a Conexant one. I don't know what the Google one uses though. Slight update it looks like the Razor one will be compatible so there's that plus the ones for the HTC U11 are as well although there is debate as to whether the one for the U11 and the U11 Ultra are the same with a new case design or us a different chip. But either way the HTC ones have a DAC in the adaptor so that makes it compatible.
So far the current list is:
Google OEM
Essential Phone PH-1 adaptor
Razor Phone Adaptor
HTC U11 https://www.htc.com/us/accessories-b...-3-5mm-htc-u11
HTC U11 Ultra Adaptor https://www.htc.com/us/accessories-b...mm-htc-u-ultra
Geekria https://www.amazon.com/Geekria-Headp...dp/B073Z47PSK/
I bought some $0.89 USB-C to 3.5mm adapters off of AliExpress, because they're dirt cheap and I know for a fact I will lose the one that comes with my phone. After receiving my Pixel 2 yesterday and plugging one into the phone, it says "Analog audio accessory detected - The attached device is not compatible with this phone. Tap to learn more."
I'm a little peeved that they decided to take the headphone jack out, make you use an adapter, and even more specifically make you use their adapter. I switched away from iOS specifically these kinds of reasons..
I assume the only way to remove this restriction would be via root?
Pixel 2 and 2 XL requires a digital adapter, which means it needs a chip inside. The one on the google play store is only $9, is a digital adapter, and also contains a DAC. There is no restriction that you can't use a 3rd party adapter, you just need to use a digital adapter.
USB c allows analog and digital audio, the pixel only does digital, your adapter is only analog (which is why it's so cheap).
https://www.androidauthority.com/3-5mm-audio-usb-type-c-701507/
This is very interesting! As is known, Google is focusing hardcore on USB C compliance. I was under the impression that since the pixel 2 does not do analog audio, it broke the spec, and was a bit confused why.
As per the error message you are receiving, it is clear the USB C port is reading the SBU pin's correctly, there is just no DAC connected on the other end. So i guess technically this is compliant...
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This is very interesting! As is known, Google is focusing hardcore on USB C compliance. I was under the impression that since the pixel 2 does not do analog audio, it broke the spec, and was a bit confused why.
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Lack of analog does not break the spec, AFAIK. The spec allows, but does not require, analog pass-through.
I wish they did allow it, so we could buy cheaper adapters. However, that would require another DAC and amplifier in the phone.
Google made the right choice
Google made the right choice here. As not all USB C devices do not do analog out it is better to only do digital out. This is so you can use your USB accessories with other devices. Not allowing it is actually more complaint in google's mind then doing analog and digital out.
I tested the adapter that came with my Essential phone in the Pixel 2 and it worked fine. It has a dac inside it as well
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I tested the adapter that came with my Essential phone in the Pixel 2 and it worked fine. It has a dac inside it as well
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Any purchase links available, especially want one with a Y splitter to charge phone and use headphones/bed speaker at the same time. Looking for something like this THIS ITEM DOES NOT WORK WITH PIXEL 2 XL - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075F5Y75L/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
No But...
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Any purchase links available, especially want one with a Y splitter to charge phone and use headphones/bed speaker at the same time. Looking for something like this THIS ITEM DOES NOT WORK WITH PIXEL 2 XL -
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I do not have anything but I can say anything that states it works for the Moto Z is not what you are looking for. The Moto Z has a USB analog audio out.
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Any purchase links available, especially want one with a Y splitter to charge phone and use headphones/bed speaker at the same time. Looking for something like this THIS ITEM DOES NOT WORK WITH PIXEL 2 XL - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075F5Y75L/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This is what you're looking for:
https://store.google.com/us/product/moshi_usb_c_headphone_adapter_charger?hl=en-US
unfortunately it's still in "Coming Soon" status.
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This is what you're looking for:
https://store.google.com/us/product/moshi_usb_c_headphone_adapter_charger?hl=en-US
unfortunately it's still in "Coming Soon" status.
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Yeah but not at that price and also something that is available now...
I tried some el cheapos that also didn't work on my Essential phone, so I went ahead and ordered 2 more from google since they dropped the price to $9 a few weeks ago. Mind as well roll that into price of the phone if you insist on wired like I do. Sucky thing is they're not slated for delivery until Nov 17 – 18.
My advice would be if you need another adapter to buy the official Google one and not a 89 cent China eBay special. You must remember that embedded DAC is solely responsible for making sure your audio doesn't sound like ****. Don't cheap out and get a quality converter
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Yeah but not at that price and also something that is available now...
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Agreed the price sucks. But I'm cautiously optimistic that Google will drop that like they did for the regular adapter right before launch. (fingers crossed)
As per usual, Google pulled a Nintendo and did not make enough of one of the most sought after accessories for their flagship phone. The adapters are out of stock and any orders placed for them while they where in stock don't even ship until mid November. Lame.
Does anyone know if the Razer Phone's adapter will work on our Pixel 2? Would be interesting to try that THX certification out if Razer were to sell this separately from their phones.
Nothing looks simple, but i have found some things like this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65201371&postcount=48
I'm using a Dragonfly Red with my Pixel 2 (via an Anker USB-C to A converter) without issue, aside from the known low volume problem with the Red (which isn't as much of an issue for me as I mostly use sensitive headphones.)
I can't personally vouch for this because I haven't got it yet... but this adapter appears to have a dac.
Its pricey, but there if you need one before Google can get them back in stock.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073Z47PSK/
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I can't personally vouch for this because I haven't got it yet... but this adapter appears to have a dac.
Its pricey, but there if you need one before Google can get them back in stock.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073Z47PSK/
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This one is good. It was referenced in the 2XL forum. A user there did testing of audio quality and his result was it was just a little bit less than the Google supplied one.
Post for reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74352935&postcount=26
I have scoured Amazon and really at this time The google one and the Geekria one are the only one at this time. As more and more companies release phones without 3.5mm there should be more options. One other option I brought up was also that the iPhone adapters also have DACs in them so there is the option to get one and get a Lighting to C adapter.
Not sure if I'm missing something. But I've been trying to get my shure se535s working with my note 10+
I first bought a type c to 3.5mm dongle which didnt work. So I then purchased a rather pricey type c to mmcx cable to replace the entire cable for my monitors. But that doesnt work either. Device just plays audio out of the speakers.
The provided headphones work just fine (be it they are runnish).
Anyone got any ideas?? I wasnt bothered about the headphone jack removal at first as I had 2 options but neither of these seem to work
I plugged in the headphones that came with the phone and the connection was horrible. I literally had to hold them in because if the phone moved it would disconnect and then my phone call would come out of the speaker not the headphones. I just think the typs C connection sucks.
I have the Shure BT cable and I use BT most of the time. I purchased it off of Amazon. Works great. I also suggest getting Comply replacement foam tips.
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You have to get a certain kind. Some brands of adapters don't have a built in DAC. Go get a Samsung branded one from Best buy and see if it works. That's what I had to do.
Isn't there a DAC inside the phone?
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Have to have an adapter with a DAC. my $10 one off amazon works fine.
I use this one and it works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MC3DSZ7
I’m using apples version..7 bux amazon
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I use this one and it works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MC3DSZ7
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Does fast charge also work with it?
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Isn't there a DAC inside the phone?
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Apparently not. I asked the same question on reddit and people said the same thing. Samsung didnt put an in built dac to convert the signals over. So cheap dongles dont work. And nor does my over prices $90 shure cable... but a few people recommended the google branded one used for the pixel. And amazon reviewers confirmed it worked with the note 10+
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I can't comment on that one, but since I've dealt with this issue from my Pixel 2XL, there are adapters with both the DAC and a power in, but with both ports on the end of the box. That side mounted power input looks awkward to use.
I bought this one, but I'm trying to find it to test with the Note 10+. So I can't confirm it works just yet. But anyway, having both connections on the end is much easier to work with.
There are also others with slightly smaller "boxes" or different shaped boxes, so pay attention to that as well. When I find this one and test, I'll update.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFSV1RY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edit: I confirmed the one I linked above works with PD, or at least it says fast charger connected and estimates 34 minutes to fully charge from 79%. So far, all the adapters and headsets I tried that I bought for the Pixel 2XL have worked with the Note 10+. So I think when shopping on Amazon, things that are compatible with the Pixel 2XL are compatible with the Note 10+.
I personally hate that they do this. They have to convert the audio for the speakers and then they just got cheap on not doing the same straight pass through connection for the USB C connector. Those USB C adapters are dirt cheap, though the ones with a DAC chip have come way down from when the only major phones that needed them were the Pixel 2's and the Essential phone or whatever that thing is called.
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I'm assuming it does. I usually get a "weak charging" message when I use non-fast charging-compatible chargers. I've not seen that appear on my 10+ yet.
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I can't comment on that one, but since I've dealt with this issue from my Pixel 2XL, there are adapters with both the DAC and a power in, but with both ports on the end of the box. That side mounted power input looks awkward to use.
I bought this one, but I'm trying to find it to test with the Note 10+. So I can't confirm it works just yet. But anyway, having both connections on the end is much easier to work with.
There are also others with slightly smaller "boxes" or different shaped boxes, so pay attention to that as well. When I find this one and test, I'll update.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFSV1RY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edit: I confirmed the one I linked above works with PD, or at least it says fast charger connected and estimates 34 minutes to fully charge from 79%. So far, all the adapters and headsets I tried that I bought for the Pixel 2XL have worked with the Note 10+. So I think when shopping on Amazon, things that are compatible with the Pixel 2XL are compatible with the Note 10+.
I personally hate that they do this. They have to convert the audio for the speakers and then they just got cheap on not doing the same straight pass through connection for the USB C connector. Those USB C adapters are dirt cheap, though the ones with a DAC chip have come way down from when the only major phones that needed them were the Pixel 2's and the Essential phone or whatever that thing is called.
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I received the dongle you linked to, today. Fast charging works when you don't listen to music at the same time when charging. It doesn't bother me though. I'm very happy with it ?
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Tried a a few cheap adapters. All won't work. I found one Basues adapter that worked but the sound either dies or becomes mono when you touch the metal parts of the adapter.
I have this 3.5mm to usb c dongle from galaxy tab s5e.
Surprisingly, it doesn't work with note 10+. Only works with s5e.
Not sure why.
Anyway, the usb c headphone works in both device. So I only carry one.
I guess people will need to buy dongle from samsung as usual dongle not working, even the only from samsung for s5e.
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I plugged in the headphones that came with the phone and the connection was horrible. I literally had to hold them in because if the phone moved it would disconnect and then my phone call would come out of the speaker not the headphones. I just think the typs C connection sucks.
I have the Shure BT cable and I use BT most of the time. I purchased it off of Amazon. Works great. I also suggest getting Comply replacement foam tips.
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The connection is firm for me. You should get an exchange or something.
again use apples dongle. its working for me no issues and its 7 bux.
If you go on ebay you can find the razer phone adapter. That seriously has a punch twice as loud as other adapters and powers bigger headphones way better. The 24 bit DAC is awesome.
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again use apples dongle. its working for me no issues and its 7 bux.
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Where I am, all stores are out of stock...
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If you go on ebay you can find the razer phone adapter. That seriously has a punch twice as loud as other adapters and powers bigger headphones way better. The 24 bit DAC is awesome.
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Can u ou supply a link also will it work for a microphone only?
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Can u ou supply a link also will it work for a microphone only?
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You can get it from the razer site. I'm in UK so here's the link for the UK site. I'm sure it's available on other regional sites
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/mobile/razer-phone-audio-adapter
You can also find it on ebay for cheaper.
I've tested on note 10 plus 5g, one plus 7 Pro and mate 20 Pro and mic and volume buttons work fine