Incase anyone out there is interested apparently there are 2 models of Mini PC's that are out/coming out that run Android 4.0, they are about the same size as a flash drive, and have an HDMI out port on them.
http://liliputing.com/2012/08/89-android-mini-pc-with-1-6-ghz-arm-cortex-a9-cpu.html
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...mputer-is-slightly-larger-than-a-thumb-drive/
Thoughts?
Khilbron said:
Incase anyone out there is interested apparently there are 2 models of Mini PC's that are out/coming out that run Android 4.0, they are about the same size as a flash drive, and have an HDMI out port on them.
http://liliputing.com/2012/08/89-android-mini-pc-with-1-6-ghz-arm-cortex-a9-cpu.html
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...mputer-is-slightly-larger-than-a-thumb-drive/
Thoughts?
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I love new gadgets, i want one
So basically it seems like a linux live disk, where you can select the boot on startup and boot into android?
It seems interesting. On this flashdrive it will be interesting, because about ~2 years ago there was a way to actually make your cpu OS android [gingerbread] at the time.
Seems like it could work nice with the ubuntu for android project.
Hello everyone! I just saw some news about this phone releasing tomorrow, and the Intel Atom processor caught my attention, as it has a 64-bit processor. I remember, long ago in the days of the very first Galaxy S, there was a way to run Windows 98 through emulation using QEMU and Bochs, however it was PAINFULLY slow since it was emulating the x86 architecture from ARM. Since this phone will not have that step to go through, does that mean it would be possible to run a fully-featured version of Windows on it, such as Windows 7? (or XP, 8, or 8.1, I just stated 7 for reference) I used to have one of the even older Sony Vaio UMPCs when they were cool, but they're quite slow for any modern tasks. I've dreamed of any kind of successor to it, so that I could have a device running the full Windows experience in my pocket (versus in my bookbag with a laptop or tablet).
Thanks in advance for the replies!
I am a current owner and hoping for the same thing. It does have the 64 bit Atom in it, so in theory, it should be possible!
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in theory its possible.. except you won't have any driver support from asus whatsoever
so... basically everything wouldn't work properly..
i.e. EMMC storage
touchscreen
sensorhub
gps
cellular radio
you get the idea
Couldn't we write the drivers ourselves? I know it isn't an easy task, but it seems as though it should be possible.
Hydrocharged said:
Couldn't we write the drivers ourselves? I know it isn't an easy task, but it seems as though it should be possible.
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Everything is possible and doable, question is: what for?
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Everything is possible and doable, question is: what for?
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For installing steam and play CS GO on my phone x'D
well.. may be it would be nice to have a working linux chroot with a working X server (with audio also) so we can use native linux programs on our little diamond. I know also that it has hdmi out, so we can use it like a pc with bt keyboard\mouse or microUSB with usb keyboard\mouse and hdmi out
I did that on my old htc ONE m7, working debian chroot on hdmi monitor, but the problem is always the X Server.. i was using VNC and it doesn't support audio
sorry for bad english
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Everything is possible and doable, question is: what for?
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To have a way to run a full Windows installation that can fit in the pocket, without purchasing legacy UMPCs such as the: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-UX280P-4-5-inch-Laptop-Processor/dp/B000IALP88
I'm honestly pretty sad that they discontinued the UMPC concept, I wish it would have stayed.
tbh, I'm interested in seeing if we can get Wine compiled for a chroot'd linux on these beasties. If we can get that working, I could see fully working XP applications at some point.
There's a really good X Server already, XServer-XSDL, that's free on the Play store & plenty of chroot linux builds out there too.
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tbh, I'm interested in seeing if we can get Wine compiled for a chroot'd linux on these beasties. If we can get that working, I could see fully working XP applications at some point.
There's a really good X Server already, XServer-XSDL, that's free on the Play store & plenty of chroot linux builds out there too.
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About how fast is XServer as far as realtime applications go? Since it uses tunneling it seems like there would be some kind of delay, but I have no experience in such areas. If not, then getting Wine to run could open up a lot of possibilities!
XServer-XSDL is real-time since there's no tunneling. I've used it on a couple of my phones. Start up the chroot'd linux on the phone, start up XServer-XSDL, ssh into the chroot'd linux, export DISPLAY=:0 & start up your favorite windows manager. I like lxde or fvwm, personally.
I'm waiting for root so I can install backtrack.
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It is only a matter of time. Hope it is sooner than later. I'm interested in having Windows 10 on here.
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I'm waiting for root so I can install backtrack.
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Rooted versions of the Asus roms are available already... You just need to find them, herer...-https://mega.co.nz/#F!k4MHiAgL!dVuOKeH3eokcwPSNI79ffw
Big thanks to shakalaca for maintaining the rooted images...
Yeah but I'll wait for an official way to root it with an unlocked boot loader.
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So far have xserver-xsdl installed as the X server, installed debian Jessie to my sd card's 20 ish gig ext 4 partition using Linux deploy. Apt-get wine. Follow wine setup for first boot. I'll test some executables tomorrow.
Another thing is cpuinfo shows the vmx extension, so we could probably run qemu-kvm as well.
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Edit:
Wine works fine and starts up applications okay and is pretty snappy. BUT it looks like OpenGL in Jessie may be messed up, so either need to see if Mesa has been fixed and recompile or go back to an older distro.
Edit 2:
We may not be able to get hardware accelerated wine with the proprietary powervr video card. Mesa glx shows no support and es2_info shows support but es2 gears won't run.
Well that's not looking good :/
Hi all,
Been trying to get Half life 2 to run on my HTC 10 (great game from back in the day which would run perfectly on the 10)
The game is from the catalogue allowed only by nvidia devices like the shield, Half life 2 has been ported over.
GL Tools allows certain games to run by spoofing certain parts of your android version afaik.
In the past you should be able to simply install the APK and the data which would normally reside in Android/Data/Obb but this no longer works as it used to.
I've bought the app by logging into my friends shield and buying it (£9.95 ) so now my phone when opening it does actually see that it's licensed but the game continues to fall flat.
My friend who has an S7 on Marshmallow with the same settings has it working perfectly.
Has anyone used this before? GLTools? OR have any insight as to what settings would best suit our phones?
I'm running Viper Rom 5.9.0 which is Nougat, I may try to roll back to see if it works but if anyone knows of a way around that i'd love to know.
Spoke with the dev who's advised me that android version shouldn't matter but i can't see any other difference between our phones besides hardware, I've changed pretty much every setting, the dev also provided me with a script but that didn't help.
Any advice or experience would help.
Thanks
Bump, I am also trying to do the same but I am trying with a stock rooted nougat rom. Will do anything to make this game work on this device. Any advice?
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Bump, I am also trying to do the same but I am trying with a stock rooted nougat rom. Will do anything to make this game work on this device. Any advice?
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If you'll do anything then rollback to marshmallow..It'll work. Nougat just does not like half life 2. Simply put.
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Hi,
Google disabled the HDMI alt mode in the bootloader/kernel on the Google Pixel 6 Pro, which means that you cannot share your device screen by mirroring to an external screen using HDMI. You cannot either use the built in desktop mode in Android and use the Samsung DEX like desktop experience.
How can this be solved?
1) Is it possible to unlock the bootloader / root the phone, and change the kernel to allow desktop mode / HDMI out from the phone?
2) Is it possible to unlock HDMI out by flashing a custom ROM, such as Lineage OS?
3) Is it possible to force the Google Pixel to use the desktop mode even without HDMI, and use the desktop mode by sharing the screen to a Chromecast?
4) Is it possible to use a Displaylink external GPU to not only mirror, but also force the Pixel to start desktop mode and share this through Displaylink to an external display? (Displaylink disables Netflix etc)
5) I also tried Sentio Desktop / Taskbar, but it wouldn't allow me to open several windows in freeform mode. Only one at a time, and the application would never by default open in freeform mode by using the launcher, they had to be manually converted to freeform. Sentio Desktop could also not be open in the background while a freeform application was open in the foreground, which sorta makes it useless.
X) i tried this command through adb to force the phone into desktop mode, but it wouldn't work. Anyone tried it? adb shell am start -n “com.android.launcher3/com.android.launcher3.SecondaryDisplayLauncher”
I understand that we can share and mirror the screen to an external screen by using Chromecast, but this requires it to be setup to Wifi, and doesn't really work that good on a hotel. It is also possible to mirror the screen with a Displaylink adapter, but this disables any streaming services to the external tv, and does not allow desktop mode.
I would think that some of you awesome developers have looked into this either on the Google Pixel 6, or the 4 or the 5, which all have hardware support for HDMI out.
Thanks!
This video shows a Google Pixel 4 running a desktop mode Interface through a custom rom. Should be possible with the Google Pixel 6 right?
Multi-Display support for Android over USB - DisplayLink Forum
Multi-Display support for Android over USB General Discussion
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The extended desktop requires Android OS changes to handle mouse and launching applications to different displays.
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These changes are available to phone manufacturers who would like to make their device a productivity one. As some products start to appear in the market, then we can hope the interest will increase... We've just been ready early.
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As far as I am aware, Android natively only does one device in clone at a max resolution of 1080p.
There's a presenter mode on some applications like PowerPoint to display something different without user interaction possible on that external display as there's no way with stock Android to handle mouse across displays or select which screen the app should be launched on.
We've done it to show it's possible, creating a specific ROM for that. The OS can be modified to do extended desktop with mouse support.
The Android device needs to support being a USB host (USB On The Go).
DisplayLink DL-1x5, DL-3000, DL-5000 and DL-6900 series all work.
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7) create a feedback form to Google / talk to a Google Rep, asking them if they are aware of this "issue" and ask them to fix it
It's a shame that Tensor lost a lot of basic abilities (just think about the people that have problems with DACs or hearing aid tools). Hopefully Google can bring these features back with future software updates, but of course they won't if people don't directly tell them "We want this, go fix it!".
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7) create a feedback form to Google / talk to a Google Rep, asking them if they are aware of this "issue" and ask them to fix it
It's a shame that Tensor lost a lot of basic abilities (just think about the people that have problems with DACs or hearing aid tools). Hopefully Google can bring these features back with future software updates, but of course they won't if people don't directly tell them "We want this, go fix it!".
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Yeah, that's an option. I can definitely look into that. It's just that I sorta don't expect them to do anything about it. (Sadly)
Google have purposely disabled this feature, so they must have a reason for it. I'm hoping it's because they want the desktop mode to be perfect before it's released, so that noone can say that Samsung did it better. Some people believe it is because they want everyone to buy a Chromecast. (Already have 2 and it doesn't help me, so I'm hoping that's not it.)
I don't know, but when a company manually disables a feature which is by default enabled, then I believe hacking the **** out of the device, and enabling it yourself is the only option.
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Yeah, that's an option. I can definitely look into that. It's just that I sorta don't expect them to do anything about it. (Sadly)
Google have purposely disabled this feature, so they must have a reason for it. I'm hoping it's because they want the desktop mode to be perfect before it's released, so that noone can say that Samsung did it better. Some people believe it is because they want everyone to buy a Chromecast. (Already have 2 and it doesn't help me, so I'm hoping that's not it.)
I don't know, but when a company manually disables a feature which is by default enabled, then I believe hacking the **** out of the device, and enabling it yourself is the only option.
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Pixels have never had support for HDMI out (not talking about modifications). They support DisplayLink using a $200 Dock (Google support documentation verifies this for previous pixels).
Sure make your voice heard. I'm all for that. But be realistic. 99% of the featureset is locked 18 months before release of the product. If they didn't have a huge stake in Chromecast, I think things might be different.
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4) Is it possible to use a Displaylink external GPU to not only mirror, but also force the Pixel to start desktop mode and share this through Displaylink to an external display? (Displaylink disables Netflix etc)
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Well no, because display link uses non-public protocols and has no open source implementation, however, Linux supports GUD (generic USB display) for which you can use something like a $5 raspberry pi zero as the adapter. I doubt that GUD is compiled into the p6p's kernel, but it would be easy to add.
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Well no, because display link uses non-public protocols and has no open source implementation, however, Linux supports GUD (generic USB display) for which you can use something like a $5 raspberry pi zero as the adapter. I doubt that GUD is compiled into the p6p's kernel, but it would be easy to add.
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That sounds very interesting, and actually sounds like an option that may work! I would love to give that a try. Just need one of our kernel developers to add the code.
The Generic USB Display Driver Taking Shape For Linux 5.9~5.10 - Phoronix
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Generic USB Display driver
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Generic-USB-Display Interesting news. If I understand this correctly, this could potentially enable external displays for convergence even for phones without display out on USB and should be more m...
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Please support my request and maybe it will helps:
Pixel 6 screen expanding (not mirroring). HDMI Alt Mode - Google Pixel Community
HDMI Alt Mode is unlikely to happen as it's a very exotic (and not officially supported by the USB-C spec). DisplayPort Alt Mode (which is used by nearly ALL the USB-C to HDMI cables) on the other hand, should be possible as long as the USB-C controller can receive video signal from the SoC.
DisplayLink kinda goes around this, and although the available documentation is quite limited, my main guess would be that it employs something similar to the aforementioned GUD drivers, providing display out purely over USB protocol (instead of switching the USB-C port into alt modes).
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HDMI Alt Mode is unlikely to happen as it's a very exotic (and not officially supported by the USB-C spec). DisplayPort Alt Mode (which is used by nearly ALL the USB-C to HDMI cables) on the other hand, should be possible as long as the USB-C controller can receive video signal from the SoC.
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Thanks for this response. I think this is how it works on all of the Samsung phones. When I still had my S21U, I just used a USB-C to HDMI adapter and could connect my phone to any display - it was great!
Now, of course, I understand the desire for Google to follow Apple's decisions and force their users to grab a Chromecast, however, the Chromecast just doesn't work as well for me when compared to wired connections. I'm hoping that they allow for this in the future as the current audio/video desync is pretty rough when I'm streaming content to my Chromecast =/.
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Thanks for this response. I think this is how it works on all of the Samsung phones. When I still had my S21U, I just used a USB-C to HDMI adapter and could connect my phone to any display - it was great!
Now, of course, I understand the desire for Google to follow Apple's decisions and force their users to grab a Chromecast, however, the Chromecast just doesn't work as well for me when compared to wired connections. I'm hoping that they allow for this in the future as the current audio/video desync is pretty rough when I'm streaming content to my Chromecast =/.
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That's the funny thing here - anyone can implement AirPlay, there's even software that allows using Chromecast devices as AirPlay targets! Apple is really cool about it, and I'm surprised no Android app implements it as of now.
Google is really stuck on their ChromeCast ecosystem, which, to be frank, works quite well for most purposes - the app deep linking it achieves with e.g. YouTube is pretty dope. But Google shouldn't be ignoring the other protocols that work better for certain scenarios. It's like Google actively wants to reduce the experience on Pixel devices.
Does the google pixel 6 pro come bootloader unlocked?
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Does the google pixel 6 pro come bootloader unlocked?
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This isn't the place for your question. Also, it takes literally two seconds to Google an answer.
But to help you out: no, the bootlaoder is NOT unlocked by default, but can be easily done (by enabling OEM Unlocking in Developer Options, then unlocking through fastboot)
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Does the google pixel 6 pro come bootloader unlocked?
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No it doesn't. However, you may be able to unlock the bootloader depending on what model/variant you get. If you get a Verizon model/variant you will not be able to unlock your bootloader.
This is really the wrong thread to ask this question though. This topic has been discussed many times in several other threads.
Hi, On the GrapheneOS website this is stated
"Display Port
The Qualcomm chipsets in Pixel phones supports Display Port which outputs HDMI. This is however not enabled on Pixel phones. It is somewhat likely to be trivial to enable this though "
Wonder if it is possible to tweak the kernel and enable it?
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Hi, On the GrapheneOS website this is stated
"Display Port
The Qualcomm chipsets in Pixel phones supports Display Port which outputs HDMI. This is however not enabled on Pixel phones. It is somewhat likely to be trivial to enable this though "
Wonder if it is possible to tweak the kernel and enable it?
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Pixel 6/7 is not qualcomm. Its exynos.
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Pixel 6/7 is not qualcomm. Its exynos.
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Thanks for clearing that up.. Does that make it less possible?
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Thanks for clearing that up.. Does that make it less possible?
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Maybe, maybe not. I don't know much about how these are wired up or what their capabilities are.
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Maybe, maybe not. I don't know much about how these are wired up or what their capabilities are.
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Difficult what to do.. I run Graphene OS and it works great.. But the p6p has much more to offer, like a desktop mode.. The hardware is there but it is blocked (by kernel) Too bad.. (for now). Hope there will be a solution soonish... Thanks for the reply..
so is there any way to do HDMI/Display out through the USB port of any Pixel phone?