Root or not to root? - OnePlus 5T Questions & Answers

What are your top reasons for rooting?

Number one for me is Magisk Modules, namely Injected YouTube Background Playback. Then Adaway, Titanium Backup, and Substratum (although you can still theme without root).

Same here...magisk, titanium backup and afwall+
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Titanium, Adaway, Greenify, Root browser

First of all Magisk: Stock System with all preferences of root,
Titanium Backup, Firewall, Tasker & AutoTools, AdAway, Greenify, Oxygen Updater, SD Maid, Cerberuss, Terminal Emulator, File Explorer, Better Battery Stats

It should be illegal not to root this phone.

Magisk, Root browser, Adaway, Titanium Backup, AFWall+ and Lucky Patcher are my reasons to root. Oh and iYTBP black themed youtube. I dont like non root version of that.

Same question LOL just got the device today, coming from Op2.
I think I can live without root for now.

Well, my top reason for rooting has always been, because I can.
But after that, all the above reasons same for me. I just like the customization and modding that comes with rooting. You can make a great phone even greater and completely in your vision and interface. I like trying different ROMs and kernels. Also, I need the kernel kcal functionality to adjust my screen colors as I'm very picky about it.
It's not about owning and using a device for me. It's one of my few hobbies as well. :good:

I've been spoiled by Viper4Android and what it can do to make my music sound so much better, so I can't live without that.
Titanium Backup, Magisk Modules and some advanced automations through Tasker are nice to haves, because I can do it. They aren't too essential, in my opinion, and rooting for me is making it mine. I would probably jailbreak my iPhone if I owned one as well.

Thanks for all your replies!

rysx said:
I've been spoiled by Viper4Android and what it can do to make my music sound so much better, so I can't live without that.
Titanium Backup, Magisk Modules and some advanced automations through Tasker are nice to haves, because I can do it. They aren't too essential, in my opinion, and rooting for me is making it mine. I would probably jailbreak my iPhone if I owned one as well.
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I'm curious about why so many people use Viper4android. Does it make all your music sound that much better, or do u need HiFi audio files? I'm not really an audiophile, so I've never bothered with it, but maybe I'll give it a try.

Honestly?
Literally just Substratum.
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Airwolf79 said:
I'm curious about why so many people use Viper4android. Does it make all your music sound that much better, or do u need HiFi audio files? I'm not really an audiophile, so I've never bothered with it, but maybe I'll give it a try.
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You don't really need HiFi FLACs, but most of my library is a mix of Spotify downloads (in extreme quality) and 320k MP3s. Set up right (in my case, using the DDC profile of earpods, of all things, and maxing out Spectrum Extension) it can bring a notable improvement. But it takes time to find the perfect settings for your music styles and preference. I can't say for others, but the difference is there for me.

Airwolf79 said:
Number one for me is Magisk Modules, namely Injected YouTube Background Playback. Then Adaway, Titanium Backup, and Substratum (although you can still theme without root).
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What is difference between rooted and unrooted version for injected youtube
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MsuatafaKhatab said:
What is difference between rooted and unrooted version for injected youtube
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Never tried the unrooted version.

Airwolf79 said:
Never tried the unrooted version.
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I think the difference on unrooted version you must install micro apk
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Does anyone have an issue connecting to a hotel wifi on a rooted phone where it opens a new web page where you need to enter your room number and surname to sign into the wifi?
I used to face this issue on rooted nexus 6p

rrohanjs said:
Does anyone have an issue connecting to a hotel wifi on a rooted phone where it opens a new web page where you need to enter your room number and surname to sign into the wifi?
I used to face this issue on rooted nexus 6p
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That issue has nothing to do with rooting...
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Tasker, Titanium Backup, Greenify, AdAway, Substratum, Root Explorer. Currently not using Xposed but I do use it on some ROMs.
Tasker:
1) Double tap home screen to lock screen. Status bar is too far away to reach one handed.
2) Disable Heads-up when screen is on and enable it when screen is off. This is to trigger Ambient Display notifications while screen is off but leaving Heads-up turned off when screen is on as I find it too intrusive. I prefer the good old notification ticker on some custom ROMs
Titanium Backup: Backup and restore apps and settings easily on a new ROM. I.e. Good Vibrations for seamless transition between ROMs without having to reset the vibration settings every time.
Greenify: Root mode works so much better. More functions are unlocked with Xposed, but battery life is so good on the OP5T that I really have had no reason to do so.
AdAway: Remove Ads
Substratum: For a black theme to take advantage of the Amoled display and save battery.
Root Explorer: My favourite file explorer so far!

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Best root apps

Ive not delved into rooting since my old phone on kitkat so am a bit out of touch on what the best apps are, planning to finally root DP4 next week.
I have titanium backup pro, flashfire, adaway lined up ready.
Is greenify still worth using as I have the paid version of that on my account.
Anything else for general system improvements etc?
Oblox said:
Ive not delved into rooting since my old phone on kitkat so am a bit out of touch on what the best apps are, planning to finally root DP4 next week.
I have titanium backup pro, flashfire, adaway lined up ready.
Is greenify still worth using as I have the paid version of that on my account.
Anything else for general system improvements etc?
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depending on your likes and needs i'd add a decent filemanager with root capabilities. ForceDoze may be to your liking aswell http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-forcedoze-force-doze-mode-screen-t3377694
Broken303 said:
depending on your likes and needs i'd add a decent filemanager with root capabilities. ForceDoze may be to your liking aswell http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-forcedoze-force-doze-mode-screen-t3377694
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Have solid explorer for that which is very nice.
Force doze looks ok, but is that a no to greenify?
Oblox said:
Have solid explorer for that which is very nice.
Force doze looks ok, but is that a no to greenify?
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i agree on solid explorer. i can't say much on the topic of greenify since i never used it. for my case i have found ForceDoze to be sufficient and most of all efficient and easy to set up.
I like greenify still. I also recommend cf.lumen for night time browsing on your phone.
I have to say flashify, ES file explorer, and nandroid manager are a few.
Thanks for all the sueggestions, running Adaway, Titanium, Greenify (aggresive doze disabled), Force Doze (really nice app!) Solid Explorer and Flashfire and all running really well.
Amazing how good things are for rooting now!
Just a question if anyone can answer as i'm a little unsure. Systemless root, is it standard now via cf-auto-root etc? just curious as I wasn't sure if i could try android pay when my bank finally supports it. Ive done the systemless adaway flash

Anyone go back to stock from rooted?

I have been finding myself only using Magisk for EmojiOne, but noticing I don't use Emoji like I used to anymore and am thinking since I only use Substratum with a Center Clock mod and have stopped using it for Dark theming, maybe going back to a stock based setup would be fine. I can use the Andromeda thing with Substratum which is an extra step but can do my center clock and possibly emoji one via substratum... not sure what else I would want root for... Updating is a touch of a pain for me. What do yo guys think, and have any of you gone back to stock?
I went back to stock just because I didn't want to have the uncertainty of being rooted.
Nothing wrong with rooting but I love this phone the way it is.
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For myself Rooting was a necessity. The devices sold in the past had so much Crapware.
It was nice to get the latest and greatest ROM and tweak the device to run faster because at that time they were just plain old slow.
Today, depending on where you bought a device devices are very fast. It seems to me that every ROM has an issue that influences the character of the device.
If your device comes from a carrier such as Verizon you should Root it to get rid of their crapware.
It seems their attitude is you only have the right to buy their device not the ability to control, I mean really you think you own it or something? ( yes I'm a VZW hater)
What was the question?
kdkinc said:
For myself Rooting was a necessity. The devices sold in the past had so much Crapware.
It was nice to get the latest and greatest ROM and tweak the device to run faster because at that time they were just plain old slow.
Today, depending on where you bought a device devices are very fast. It seems to me that every ROM has an issue that influences the character of the device.
If your device comes from a carrier such as Verizon you should Root it to get rid of their crapware.
It seems their attitude is you only have the right to buy their device not the ability to control, I mean really you think you own it or something? ( yes I'm a VZW hater)
What was the question?
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Lol, I agree 100%. I can simply disable gMail and Calculator, the only 2 APPs pre-installed on my Pixel 2 XL that I don't need. I use Inbox by Google for eMails and a Calculator Widget for that. Aside from the EmojiOne and CenterClock, I don't even dark-theme anymore, especially not on this device with the "black crush" all the OLEDs have an issue with. I was rooted fro KCal, but am finding the Boosted setting works just fine and oddly my Blue Tint has weakened since my first few days where it was really bad. Almost like the display is wearing in and getting better? It's still there, but just not as much as that first fresh opening, so warming up the display isn't needed much for me now either.
I like to see where people's heads are at with each device, and this is one the extra input is nice to read.
I'm actually on the fence about rooting. Just received my phone this weekend and I can't decide. Going to unlock bootloader before fully setting up, but I have been playing with it a little. I've always rooted and ran custom ROMs as well as adaway. With PureNexus on my N6 I stopped flashing for over a year except the occasional ROM update. I simply like Android in it's simplest form.
I will always root, no matter what. The only downside is like you said, having to mess with getting OTAs in an unnatural way. However, seeing as how I flash all factory images, I get them sooner than those waiting on an OTA to hit their phone. Plus once you have all the tools ready to go, it literally only takes a few minutes to flash an update.
I always root because I usually run stock. And while stock on a Pixel 2 XL is damn near close to perfection, it will never be what "I" consider perfect. Which means I have to mess with the /system files to get things "perfect." I've modded the stock launcher, which I couldn't do if I was rooted. I've switched out fonts. I've changed the navbar, status bar, and quick settings. And of course, there's always AdAway which requires root. Granted some of those things can be achieved with third party apps, but I'd rather get it done "internally" whenever possible.
I used to have it for years, then more and more companies (Google and banks) made their apps check for root, and I tired of the cat and mouse game with SuperSU and Magisk. So I unrooted over a year ago. Didn't miss it at all until yesterday, when I wanted to do something with Tasker that requires root. But what I wanted to do falls into the category of "it would be nice" as opposed to "I have/need to do this", so I remain unrooted. I haven't really missed it much.
I am stuck without root since I have the Verizon model which was given to me free from work so I cannot complain too much. I have always rooted and messed with ROMs. The only thing I would need root for with the 2 XL is ad blocking with Chrome. I am trying the Samsung browser and ABP which work pretty well together.
If I didn't have the noise cancellation mic issue on my 6P I think I would have given up root a long time ago...
I rotate between stock and rooted daily lol
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I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
Ruraltech said:
I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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If you like it the way it is, then I'd just leave it. It's a great device on stock. However, having root, AdAway, TiBu, kernels, and mods, is a lot of fun as well. As long as you know adb and fastboot fairly well, rooting and flashing monthly updates is pretty easy :good:
I was rooted from the get go!!
I'm going to try to live without root for a bit but already hating not having AdAway. I just know I won't keep up with updates if I have to do them. I sure wish AdAway didn't need root
Ruraltech said:
I am sort of glad I found this thread. I'm not a XDA regular but I've been following root guides from here since my Razr Mazz HD. I chose the Pixel in part for the ease of getting root and for Project Fi. Now that I have the phone, I'm not sure I want to root. I've never had a phone with quick updates before. I LOVE AdAway, but is it really worth the tradeoff? AdGuard is just as good if you don't use your VPN slot but if you DO use a VPN and need it.... not rooting forces me to choose between PIA and AdGuard. But do I even need a VPN anymore with Project Fi? Probably... Firefox with uBlock works pretty well too but doesn't work on apps. Oh the decisions.
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I'm not regretting going back to stock from rooted as the only things I no longer have is center clock and emojione, which I 'could' get using Andromeda / Substratum but heard you have to reconnect to the computer anytime you reboot the phone and decided that's just not worth it for me. I am interested in ad blocking if possible without Root for Chrome. Only Ads that get in my way are via "News" and articles I touch from the Google Feed. Sadly many lately are blatant click-bait, page-hopping crap and slideshows that I refuse to go past the first page on.
Edit: Well, just ran across something known as DNS66 and have that up and running without Root and sure enough, it's blocking Ads on everything, even in Chrome without issue.
sharkie405 said:
I will always root, no matter what. The only downside is like you said, having to mess with getting OTAs in an unnatural way. However, seeing as how I flash all factory images, I get them sooner than those waiting on an OTA to hit their phone. Plus once you have all the tools ready to go, it literally only takes a few minutes to flash an update.
I always root because I usually run stock. And while stock on a Pixel 2 XL is damn near close to perfection, it will never be what "I" consider perfect. Which means I have to mess with the /system files to get things "perfect." I've modded the stock launcher, which I couldn't do if I was rooted. I've switched out fonts. I've changed the navbar, status bar, and quick settings. And of course, there's always AdAway which requires root. Granted some of those things can be achieved with third party apps, but I'd rather get it done "internally" whenever possible.
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Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
plisskenn said:
Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
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Flash without wiping data.
plisskenn said:
Whats your few minute process? Do you only have a few apps to restore with data?
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See below. ?
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Flash without wiping data.
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First thing I did with my unlocked XL 2 was to unlock the bootloader. I then rooted once Magisk was available. I root so I can do pain-free full TiBu of my apps and for AdAway. Even though I have corporate email on my phone, the Magisk Hide bypasses their restrictions in the email app.
I'm actually kind of shocked we don't have more ROMs for this phone, though I'm not a Dev and don't know how complex it may be. If more Devs release custom ROMs, I'll be trying some out for sure.
I never buy android phone unless it's bootloader-unlockable and root-able
Too many handicap applied without root.
I hate dns/vpn based adblock, it cluttering my status bar and notification. So, yes, i need root for adaway,
Google limit Tethering frequency option for my country (No 5Ghz) so, yes, i need root to enable it,
I like the ability to background play youtube, and see youtube without ads, so yes, i root my phone for that. Sure, no root option is available, but lot of problem with google account cant sign in, and this and that.
I like the ability to use Brevent, Edge Sense Plus, Greenify etc without the need of plugging my phone to PC and do adb command. So, yes, i rooted my phone for that.
The phone will never be 100% yours, unless you have total control over anything inside it
So,
There's no way am back to stock. Especially with xposed working so well right now.
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I like the ability to background play youtube, and see youtube without ads, so yes, i root my phone for that. Sure, no root option is available, but lot of problem with google account cant sign in, and this and that.
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Assuming you are using Magisk, how did you get YouTube Red without subscribing? (You can PM me if you don't want to hijack this thread...)

Should I root?

HI All,
So I've have my 7T for about a month now and are very happy coming from a P 2xl.
Now I'm thinking should I or should I not root. When I had my Note 4 I rooted all the time but now that I think of it, even though it was kind of fun, I don't miss the bugs. On the positive side , due to so much bloat from Samsung, I liked the ability to delete and clean out the phone. Moving on the P 2 XL I didn't root because it was so clean and Google lets you delete practically everything you don't want. Now I'm with the 7T which seems to be another "clean" phone.
At this point , I'm looking for suggestions:
What are the pros and cons?
Happy Holidays
Rich
It's more like what you want to achieve with root.
It's a bit more complicated since there is no TWRP. And it case something goes wrong, it might be a bit tricky to get restore everything, but you should be fine since there's are plenty of instructions.
I've heard some banking apps does not work, but haven't experienced that.
Unlocking the bootloader makes the widevine Level L3, so you are limited to 720p Netflix.
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I don't think it is necessary to root because you can debloat with adb commands. If you root the banking apps won't work for example and because of rooting you expose yourself to a security risk
I tried it, didn't end up working well, had to use the OnePlus recovery tool
Also as for banking apps stopping working, use magisk hide, may also work on Netflix but not sure
I'm usually a big fan of rooting, but have been using my 7t for a week without it and don't miss it. Brave browser and adb debloat has accomplished most of what I need root for.
In my case answer was simple. Titaniumbackup requires root. Not all apps have import/export settings or do so completely. Adaway, Vpn hotspot (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnhotspot&hl=en_US), and some other apps I use also require root. Hell, I could of gotten a samdung product (on promotion) for a few bucks more. Root or bust !!!
Reasons to root:
Adaway
Reasons not to:
I rooted the phone a month or so back to use a custom kernel, install AdAway and even tried out OmniROM which was quite buggy and essentially a step down from OxygenOS. More importantly, it wasn't worth it because of losing Widevine L1 which is needed in my case for Netflix and Prime Video, as I occasionally connect it to other display devices over Type-C. Banking apps mostly worked with Magisk Hide but then some of them were a bit glitchy.
Moreover, it was a bit of a pain to restore OxygenOS as the fastboot roms fail the integrity check and the only option is to do a factory flash. I eventually settled on debloating through adb and using Blokada for adblocking which more or less serves its purpose.
I root on the first day. Mainly for adaway , viper4android and theming. Its just way easier to achieve these with root .
pbman1953 said:
HI All,
So I've have my 7T for about a month now and are very happy coming from a P 2xl.
Now I'm thinking should I or should I not root. When I had my Note 4 I rooted all the time but now that I think of it, even though it was kind of fun, I don't miss the bugs. On the positive side , due to so much bloat from Samsung, I liked the ability to delete and clean out the phone. Moving on the P 2 XL I didn't root because it was so clean and Google lets you delete practically everything you don't want. Now I'm with the 7T which seems to be another "clean" phone.
At this point , I'm looking for suggestions:
What are the pros and cons?
Happy Holidays
Rich
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Adaway is essential.
Root provides you with control.
YouTube without ads.
TB
Full tasker control.
Nobrainer.
Kirahvi said:
Reasons to root:
Adaway
Reasons not to:
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Was just coming on to post exactly the same point. I rooted no issues and my banking apps work if I use Magisk Hide so its all good
Hi!
Wich one is the best guide to unlock bootloader and root Without any problem?
Thanks!
paulo_snower said:
Hi!
Wich one is the best guide to unlock bootloader and root Without any problem?
Thanks!
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Check the guides section
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surdustef said:
I don't think it is necessary to root because you can debloat with adb commands. If you root the banking apps won't work for example and because of rooting you expose yourself to a security risk
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I tend to agree with you. Please explain " adb commands". I've heard of them but have no idea how to use them. Plus what is the bloat in this phone? What items should be gone?
Thanks
mikefnz said:
Adaway is essential.
Root provides you with control.
YouTube without ads.
TB
Full tasker control.
Nobrainer.
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It's actually possible to install Vanced YouTube apk without rooting
pbman1953 said:
I tend to agree with you. Please explain " adb commands". I've heard of them but have no idea how to use them. Plus what is the bloat in this phone? What items should be gone?
Thanks
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You can check my post https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/debloat-via-adb-root-t4018801 about debloat apps

For the Millions of Pixel 4a's sold , not much going on here.

I would have expected more activity here......
seems like people are happy with their devices out of the box... so there isn't much need for mods, custom ROMs and stuff like this?!
I think the modding scene died as stock Android progressively chipped away at the best major features of custom ROMs. Better privacy controls, power savings, night & dark modes, quick tiles. Those were pretty much the biggest selling points for me. The only other custom ROM features people liked were PIE controls and and silly animations.
And with the Pixel you'd lose so many of the Pixel extras if you flash a custom ROM. (recognizing music, probably live transcribe, the nifty Live Wallpapers, etc.
I've been occasionaly racking my brain to figure out if there are any value-added features left to pursue. Say, for LineageOS- they could replace all of the stock audio files with some high quality and very unique sounds, get some interesting wallpapers (a fresh coat of paint.), improve the stock launcher, bundle F-Droid, and offer Google Cloud Messaging and location svcs alternatives. They did/are add(ing) an online backup solution called SeedVault.
It's a difficult thing to think of any original ideas. I also have this per-app fuzzy location idea I submitted to Google issue tracker (which iPhone also came up with recently. I think they call it Approximate Location.)
It used to be more exciting to be a flashaholic but every time I look at the custom ROMs these days they don't "do anything" for me. More minuses than pluses.
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And with the Pixel you'd lose so many of the Pixel extras if you flash a custom ROM. (recognizing music, probably live transcribe, the nifty Live Wallpapers, etc.
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I have all these working on derpfest but I generally agree with your point. Im mostly modded for some personal QoL changes that might not be worth having SafetyNet broken, im weighing it atm
I rooted for about 2 weeks until a security update happened. It's such a pain to update without TWRP, I went back to stock. Only thing I miss with root is backing up data with Swift BU. There are a few other things that are nice with root, but not necessary (mainly custom accent colors, and fonts). I know I'd love to be back on Derpfest, but until a stable TWRP is available, sticking with stock.
Just got mine. Love it. Going to enjoy the stock pixel before playing around with root and roms.
Bought the Pixel 4a precisely to avoid all this root and modding stress. And I was not disappointed, everything runs perfectly.
My last 2 phones ran stock with root. This phone is no exception. I'd be on a custom ROM if the stock wasn't AOSP (eg. Samsung, MIUI, etc). Magisk fixes up any annoyances.
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I rooted for about 2 weeks until a security update happened. It's such a pain to update without TWRP, I went back to stock. Only thing I miss with root is backing up data with Swift BU. There are a few other things that are nice with root, but not necessary (mainly custom accent colors, and fonts). I know I'd love to be back on Derpfest, but until a stable TWRP is available, sticking with stock.
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Hi,
I just bought a Pixel 4a, downgraded it to A10 and install Magisk and TWRP.
It seems to be running fine so far (1 week).
But I am concerned with your comment above about a security update breaking your root.
Is this right?
If so, then is there a way to stop auto-security updates?
JohnC said:
Hi,
I just bought a Pixel 4a, downgraded it to A10 and install Magisk and TWRP.
It seems to be running fine so far (1 week).
But I am concerned with your comment above about a security update breaking your root.
Is this right?
If so, then is there a way to stop auto-security updates?
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Yes it is recommended to turn off auto updates. Go to developers settings > turn off automatic system updates
Royalfox said:
Yes it is recommended to turn off auto updates. Go to developers settings > turn off automatic system updates
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Will do. Thank you.
a1291762 said:
Magisk fixes up any annoyances.
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What Magisk modules would you recommend?
I am coming from a Samsung S4 and I liked that the built-in Samsung apps each had a different material color header (Phone - green, Email - blue, SMS - Yellow), but the phone app and message app are just mainly all-white screen apps. But this gripe is theme related.
What other non-theme issues have you used magisk to fix?
I would still root for privacy and security reasons, but I can see why the regular schmegular joe wouldnt need to care. Pixel4a is a great phone stock or modded.
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I am coming from a Samsung S4
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I think you and I have different ideas about what needs to be fixed. Adding busybox, updated tz files, removing system from apps so they can be suspended in the background. That's the kind of stuff I have.
a1291762 said:
I think you and I have different ideas about what needs to be fixed. Adding busybox, updated tz files, removing system from apps so they can be suspended in the background. That's the kind of stuff I have.
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I meant like what modules/apps do you find indispensable?
I am using XprivacyLUA, +AFwall Titanium Backup, Autostarts and Gravitybox to keep privacy up and to keep running apps to a minimum.
I'm pretty happy that I was able to find a phone that I could install the apps needed to get the control over it as I wanted.
a1291762 said:
removing system from apps so they can be suspended in the background.
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I know how to freeze apps using TB, which totally disables them. But it sounds like you are just removing their background running permission, but still let them run when you want.
How do you do that?
JohnC said:
I know how to freeze apps using TB, which totally disables them. But it sounds like you are just removing their background running permission, but still let them run when you want.
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Android has the ability to block any app from running in the background. It's a battery saving feature. But you can't do it to system apps. The primary system app I've seen abusing this inability to block it is Google maps. It works just fine as a user-installed app. Magisk debloat apps (I used terminal debloater) remove system apps (without actually having to modify /system) allowing you to install them as user apps.
Another easy way is to grab the system app apk from /system/app or priv-app and copy it somewhere, delete original folder, reinstall the apk, this time it will be a user app with the original your phone used rather than an online dl
JohnC said:
I know how to freeze apps using TB, which totally disables them. But it sounds like you are just removing their background running permission, but still let them run when you want.
How do you do that?
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jawz101 said:
I think the modding scene died as stock Android progressively chipped away at the best major features of custom ROMs. Better privacy controls, power savings, night & dark modes, quick tiles. Those were pretty much the biggest selling points for me. The only other custom ROM features people liked were PIE controls and and silly animations.
And with the Pixel you'd lose so many of the Pixel extras if you flash a custom ROM. (recognizing music, probably live transcribe, the nifty Live Wallpapers, etc.
I've been occasionaly racking my brain to figure out if there are any value-added features left to pursue. Say, for LineageOS- they could replace all of the stock audio files with some high quality and very unique sounds, get some interesting wallpapers (a fresh coat of paint.), improve the stock launcher, bundle F-Droid, and offer Google Cloud Messaging and location svcs alternatives. They did/are add(ing) an online backup solution called SeedVault.
It's a difficult thing to think of any original ideas. I also have this per-app fuzzy location idea I submitted to Google issue tracker (which iPhone also came up with recently. I think they call it Approximate Location.)
It used to be more exciting to be a flashaholic but every time I look at the custom ROMs these days they don't "do anything" for me. More minuses than pluses.
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Great post,cause i was thinking the same
I just picked up Pixel 4a this month and I am really wondering if I wanna be rooting or not. I previously have always rooted my devices (had Essential Phone as my last one). Root gets me AdAway (adblock), Swift Theme Installer and YouTube Vanced working but thats all really. Trying to weigh up if its really worth it with the Pixel 4a... original plan was to run it stock with root but now not so sure.

Question Best Rooted Apps for Oneplus 9 Pro!

Hello guys! This thread is for all the rooted people out here who have rooted their oneplus 9 Pro. What are the root apps you are using and what apps you think can be used later as they might cause any brick! Love to hear from you!
My go to APKs are Root Explorer and Titanium Backup. Have had them since the golden days and still use them to this day!
Root Call SMS Manager
Root Explorer, Swift Backup for backup/restore of apps (with data) updated regularly, rather than Titanium Backup which is basically been dumped, Root Essentials
luckylui said:
My go to APKs are Root Explorer and Titanium Backup. Have had them since the golden days and still use them to this day!
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Amen and likewise
AdAway, Vanced, and Naptime
Titanium Backup Pro, Battery Charger Limit (doesn´t seem to work on Android 11), Franco Kernel Manager, Youtube Vanced, AdAway, SD Maid, High Brightness Mode, Swift Backup and some Magisk Modules....
Flying Fox said:
Titanium Backup Pro, Battery Charger Limit (doesn´t seem to work on Android 11), Franco Kernel Manager, Youtube Vanced, AdAway, SD Maid, High Brightness Mode, Swift Backup and some Magisk Modules....
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SD Maid? This has been known for years to actually not do anything whatsoever for performance. In fact probably malware.
Yup, for me is Titanium Backup Pro, AdAway, Magisk, Root Explorer... bunch of other stuff, but those are the top ones for me.
Having root is just having the flexibility of being able to hack stuff and customize the phone to your own liking.
Access settings and config files usually you'd not be able to access without root.
Burt Squirtz said:
SD Maid? This has been known for years to actually not do anything whatsoever for performance. In fact probably malware.
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I would love some sources on any of this. While SD Maid isnt as useful on A11 compared to 10 or 9 due to how A11 works, I have never seen nor heard anyone suggest anything of the sort (unless they are downloading a pirated pro variant)
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Root Explorer, Swift Backup for backup/restore of apps (with data) updated regularly, rather than Titanium Backup which is basically been dumped, Root Essentials
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swift looks great but wish it was on fdroid too. OAndBackupX has finally been updated to work on A11 and works perfectly. My only judgement of it is its dependency to use documents.ui to function, instead of allowing any competent file manager.
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Thinking of completely de-googling my phone and using fdroid also. But the adjustment of non-google apps is where I get stuck. Might get me another phone for both worlds
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de-googling, while always something i consider and work towards, is hard. in fact, id say its almost impossible with the OP9 on A11 at this time (unless you're a developer with great skills, ok with extremely minimal use and sub optimal security)
thankfully, i enjoy browsing fdroid repos and seeing what new offerings are out there. aurora droid has a fantastic list of pre installed repos available.its lack of anti-feature control in the options (like f-droid) made me just export its precompiled list into fdroid itself.
I have Magisk root for Titanium Backup, AdAway, Solid Explorer, Franco Manager, Nova, SD Maid, and customizing.
Button mapper... I forgot..
Total commander, opfp fingerprint changer, ex kernel manager, substratum light, edexposed, sai installer, rboard theme manager, and tasker
toolhas4degrees said:
Total commander, opfp fingerprint changer, ex kernel manager, substratum light, edexposed, sai installer, rboard theme manager, and tasker
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what tasked options do you utilize?
I always have a real lack of problem solving and originality when it comes to task scripting
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what tasked options do you utilize?
I always have a real lack of problem solving and originality when it comes to task scripting
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Qs tiles for applications that don't have them. Display modes ex brightness and screen timeout. Schedules for when wifi and NFC turn on and off.
Burt Squirtz said:
SD Maid? This has been known for years to actually not do anything whatsoever for performance. In fact probably malware.
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wtf are you writing? Why should it speed up your phone?
Its pretty much the best app for cleaning the storage on your phone.
Nobody ever said it should speed up the device...

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