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ok so this is awkward.... seems google has released the new Google Search and Google Experience Launcher for all handsets running 4.1 and higher..... with Google ripping the forefront of KitKat out why move to it?
Lets get a list going as to what KitKat brings to the table behind the scenes....
1)better memory managment
2)Smoother UI experience(butter+)
3)built in printer support API!!! I love printing from my phone now!
For those that want to try the new Search and Google Experience Launcher here are the links.
Download Google Search 3.1.8 APK
Download Google Experience Launcher APK
yes this turns on "Ok Google" from the launcher and also allows Google Search to talk/ask questions back to you.
I still think we need KitKat as I have been running it and it is very smooth and seems to be snappier than the stock rom.
FYI the launcher will NOT work on our stock roms!!!
It is working on other phones with 4.1 but not our phone and stock rom(with stock kernel). You can use some modded 4.1 stock roms that replace the kernel. As I believe it is a kernel based issue there will likely never be a fix as no-one is going to put in the time or effort.
Well, the Launcher still needs to be side loaded even after the Search App updates, so it is a little different there. I like having hangouts handle sms. I also like the little things like the touch sounds and such. All of these things can be emulated, but it still takes work and a little knowledge to get a kit kat experience on a different stock rom.
Androidawg said:
Well, the Launcher still needs to be side loaded even after the Search App updates, so it is a little different there. I like having hangouts handle sms. I also like the little things like the touch sounds and such. All of these things can be emulated, but it still takes work and a little knowledge to get a kit kat experience on a different stock rom.
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This is true but the launcher will be on the play store and it has been reported that a card in now will popup asking if you want it.
For a stock rom you get the stability over most other roms but I must say KK on ours has been a really big surprise.
I sideloaded the new now on KK and the feedback is pretty sweet, no more hunting to find the right number to txt or call it will ask you and you simply talk back.
For me it's all about consistency in the experience. It drives me crazy to see a stock dialer or stock messaging app when I am trying to create an AOSP experience. That's why I generally go for AOSP based ROMS. It's just jarring to have the settings menu come up with a white background. OCD
reddragon72 said:
ok so this is awkward.... seems google has released the new Google Search and Google Experience Launcher for all handsets running 4.1 and higher..... with Google ripping the forefront of KitKat out why move to it?
Lets get a list going as to what KitKat brings to the table behind the scenes....
1)better memory managment
2)Smoother UI experience(butter+)
For those that want to try the new Search and Google Experience Launcher here are the links.
Download Google Search 3.1.8 APK
Download Google Experience Launcher APK
yes this turns on "Ok Google" from the launcher and also allows Google Search to talk/ask questions back to you.
I still think we need KitKat as I have been running it and it is very smooth and seems to be snappier than the stock rom.
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Were you (or anybody) able to get this to work properly on ZVC? Tried the above, plus looking to get a potential lib, keep getting "Google Search" FC.
roguejam said:
Were you (or anybody) able to get this to work properly on ZVC? Tried the above, plus looking to get a potential lib, keep getting "Google Search" FC.
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opppsss forgot to add that blurb. The launcher doesn't work on the LG OG stock roms. other 4.1 roms do work so it has something to do with the stock rom.
I'll add that in. The new Google search(Google Now) should be fine.
OP updated!!!!
Launcher didn't work for me on optimus 4.6 the OK Google feature worked but when I tried to add the search widget, OK Google went away. I don't know how to get it back yet either
Edit: turns out it went away cause I switched the language. OK Google command now works again
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bowhunt2005 said:
Launcher didn't work for me on optimus 4.6 the OK Google feature worked but when I tried to add the search widget, OK Google went away. I don't know how to get it back yet either
Edit: turns out it went away cause I switched the language. OK Google command now works again
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Just seen that there is an update for the english language pack that needs to be installed.
slid left to Google Now
scroll to the bottom
hit the three dots
select settings
select voice
select offline speech recognition
for those in the US ensure that English shows up and it is vers 28. For all others ensure you have downloaded your language.
BTW KitKat ROM users... this is NOT for you as it is all setup!
reddragon72 said:
Just seen that there is an update for the english language pack that needs to be installed.
slid left to Google Now
scroll to the bottom
hit the three dots
select settings
select voice
select offline speech recognition
for those in the US ensure that English shows up and it is vers 28. For all others ensure you have downloaded your language.
BTW KitKat ROM users... this is NOT for you as it is all setup!
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Yeah this worked for me thanks
Not sure if we can link sites but this site shows new update coming to fire phone.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/12/17/amazon-fire-phone-update
VPN support
translation abilities
New message settings
the ability to block numbers
custom ringtones
improved camera ui
updates to improve battery life
Lock screen info which adds music controls and new notification options
I can't wait!
Hopefully with this new update we can still use google play.
Might have to take mine out of the box and upgrade.
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Might have to take mine out of the box and upgrade.
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Everything I can find that gives a version number says that the "new" upgrade is 3.6.8. If you recently purchased a new fire phone, you already HAVE 3.6.8. So, for those of us who got in on the $199 deal, we already have the update and we're getting nothing new at this time. I got all excited, but I already have 3.6.8.
You CAN sideload google apps (I can't get google photos, but I think that is a function of the underlying android os being 4.2.2). If anyone has an apk for google photos, I'd appreciate it. I couldn't find it on the play store.
ractar28 said:
Everything I can find that gives a version number says that the "new" upgrade is 3.6.8. If you recently purchased a new fire phone, you already HAVE 3.6.8. So, for those of us who got in on the $199 deal, we already have the update and we're getting nothing new at this time. I got all excited, but I already have 3.6.8.
You CAN sideload google apps (I can't get google photos, but I think that is a function of the underlying android os being 4.2.2). If anyone has an apk for google photos, I'd appreciate it. I couldn't find it on the play store.
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In my experience, Photos comes along for the ride when you install Google+. If you haven't done that yet, try installing it; if you have, then chances are the Fire Phone isn't going to display it as a separate app (unless you use a custom launcher).
So Google rolled out the Google Assistant feature for our HTC 10, and I've got to be honest, I don't particularly care for it, seems to have less functionality compared to Now On Tap.
Anybody else have any opinions or commentary regarding the new Assistant rollout or know how to switch back to Now On Tap?
Cheers
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So Google rolled out the Google Assistant feature for our HTC 10, and I've got to be honest, I don't particularly care for it, seems to have less functionality compared to Now On Tap.
Anybody else have any opinions or commentary regarding the new Assistant rollout or know how to switch back to Now On Tap?
Cheers
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If the Now On Tap you're referring to is the old function (press and hold then Google page pops up) then that's what i want
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I like the new one better. never used old one much to be honest. new one seems to do more though, on the old one when I told it to open a app or something else, most the time it would just bring up google search. assistant actually will open and close the app.
I think you can go back by uninstalling google update?
There's a build.prop option you can change to revert to Now on tap...
ro.opa.eligible_device=true (Change to false to disable Google assistant)
ronsan13 said:
If the Now On Tap you're referring to is the old function (press and hold then Google page pops up) then that's what i want
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You might be thinking of the previous Google Now, like back in the KK days?
I use Nova Launcher, and I custom mapped a swipe up gesture on the homescreen to pull up Google Now. Seems to be an easy workaround for the functionality in the "good old days" lol.
afuller42 said:
I like the new one better. never used old one much to be honest. new one seems to do more though, on the old one when I told it to open a app or something else, most the time it would just bring up google search. assistant actually will open and close the app.
I think you can go back by uninstalling google update?
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It may take me some getting used to. My biggest criticism, is now having to talk to your phone "Siri style".
I personally found the contextual screen scanning function in Tap to be very useful, a major step forward, as opposed to now having to talk to, and ask your phone questions.
Byakko Custom said:
There's a build.prop option you can change to revert to Now on tap...
ro.opa.eligible_device=true (Change to false to disable Google assistant)
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I tried looking for that build.prop value and could not seem to find it in there. I'll scan it again more thoroughly and will report back
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threetwentyfizzle said:
I tried looking for that build.prop value and could not seem to find it in there. I'll scan it again more thoroughly and will report back
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It was in the RR nougat rom I was using.
Used it for a while now too...
You could try adding that line to it in hopes that it still works.
If anything, try setting main language to English (US Virgin Islands)
Use flar2 button mapper and have both assistant and now on tap.
I would like to know if there's a way for us 10 users to get the U Ultra sense companion
I saw somewhere that soon it will be available, but dont know where....
I can't stand the assistant. I use google now all the time to search for things by typing them in. I'm also a big fan of the cards showing me weather, travel, sports, stocks and news all on one screen. The assistant that replaced it only allows you to interact with your voice, which is something I have zero interest in doing. The most I ever used the Now on tap voice controls was to set alarms or reminders.
I uninstalled all updates to the Google app and it returned to the classic Google Now functionality. If they ever try to force the assistant on me more than they already have I might seriously consider an iPhone.
Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
jeradjohnso said:
Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
Jerky_san said:
This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
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You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
antiochasylum said:
You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
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#_# Thank god.. for a little there I was scared lol. Never bought a china phone before but this phone looks absolutely amazing.. Have a friend coming back from China tmrw so asked them to pick it up for me before they left and they got me the last one in the store that was 8/256gb. Honestly I'm really hoping for a bootloader unlock and linage OS.. I've come to really love their flavor.
Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. Yes there may be a few things you will need to do, because in China they have banned Google and Google Play. These things will need to be installed manually. Hopefully with Android 9 they've made it easier, not harder than previous years.
After installing the Play Store are you good to go then in terms of being able to install whatever you want (Google suite, traditional apps, etc.)?
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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I had just talk with italian store that sell the chinese version and there are these problems written above
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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piskr said:
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
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https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu/index.aspx?pageid=1748191&prodid=19236868
(I could be wrong) ... but the shop does not look very reputable,
and it's only 20 euros cheaper than Cect-shop.com
Speaking from my own experience. Usually I installed the Google suite from their brands own app store
They have a specific application that installs the framework, Google contact, play services, play store and maybe a couple more services.
After that pretty much everything works. I'll update more when I got my phone.
I can tell you from my experience that when I bought the Huawei Honor Note 8 it was the china version, and had absolutely no issues with it here in the US. Everything I installed worked, the only thing I did have issues with was I couldnt get HiVoice to work in English (Couldnt find any eng version that would work), Ok Google couldnt work due to Hivoice being the default. The other thing I had to tweak was permissions to getting Google voice to work correctly with Android Auto. All the banking and credit card apps worked fine, obviously the wallet program or other things built in didnt work, but wasnt a deal breaker.
mimmog said:
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
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Thank you for the store contact, after considering pros and cons I've just ordered the phone from this store. What drives my decision are few simple facts:
I talked to the seller and he assured me that there is no problem with Gapps and payment systems (like GPay). As I'd had a Chinese phone before I was confident in his assurance.
I'm fully aware of problems with G Assistant but I use it primarily as phone tool with Android Auto and I believe that I could manage to use voice in that restricted purpose.
I don't use voice with the keyboard, health or fitness apps at all. So any misconduct regarding those apps doesn't worry me. It's the same with whatsapp and telegram - don't use them.
Far more annoying is the integration of lousy swift keyboard and ms translate into the system and connecting those applications with primary functionality (camera, AR..). They are really far behind Gboard and G Translate and therefore not only pretty useless but rather the disturbance in the system. But they are integrated into the global rom as well and you can't get rid of them in any region. So tolerate them and suffer or don't have Huawei at all.
But what really prevail in my decision is the fact that I'm buying the phone from a European seller. This not only abolishes any additional taxes and duties on the set price but also gives me an enforceable European warranty and delivery claims.
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
stestesteste said:
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
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Yes but the problem is that not work "ok google", google assistent, gboard with vocal dictate and other (services not application)
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What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
mimmog said:
What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
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First I thought why people hate on this os, I can deal with it, I love stock android but I have also used miui in the past so color os should be fine, but thinking that was a big mistake.
It doesn't support basic android 9 pie features like swipping right to clear banner notifications, a screen on time chart (leave alone digital wellbeing), dark mode of atleast some sort (all flashy white colours, cannot even take the amoled's advantage) and many more. Even a redmi phone with android 6 or 7 with miui 10 has all android 9 features and here's color os lacking even at the basics.
And even its own features are incompliant. You can only create dual apps for select 2-3 apps, unlike in miui where you could clone any app. Also what is this thing with the call menu when you receive a call, its of 2 kinds, one in which you have to swipe up/down to take/end a call and other being you just have to click the call pick/end button. They need to show their customisation skills there, wow.
And though the phone supports L1 liscence and has a hdr capable display it still doesn't support hdr content on netflix or amazon prime. Their answer to that is an osie vision effect feature in settings>display>osie vision effect, which btw to use you have to also enable smart slidebar(in convinience aid) and then go the supported app>pull out smart slidebar and then enable osie effect. All this then only to see that it says 'not supported in current app'.
Now the main reason for my frustration being not able to download files when the phone is locked. I put anything on download, may it be a video in youtube app or a file in chrome or any download manager app, it downloads only till 1-2 mins after the phone is locked. I come after an hour or so and the download is stuck there. How can one not be frustrated then.
So conclusion is to hell with color os, just waiting for a stable custom rom(pixel experience rom for that matter).
prashant2198 said:
First I thought why people hate on this os, I can deal with it, I love stock android but I have also used miui in the past so color os should be fine, but thinking that was a big mistake.
It doesn't support basic android 9 pie features like swipping right to clear banner notifications, a screen on time chart (leave alone digital wellbeing), dark mode of atleast some sort (all flashy white colours, cannot even take the amoled's advantage) and many more. Even a redmi phone with android 6 or 7 with miui 10 has all android 9 features and here's color os lacking even at the basics.
And even its own features are incompliant. You can only create dual apps for select 2-3 apps, unlike in miui where you could clone any app. Also what is this thing with the call menu when you receive a call, its of 2 kinds, one in which you have to swipe up/down to take/end a call and other being you just have to click the call pick/end button. They need to show their customisation skills there, wow.
And though the phone supports L1 liscence and has a hdr capable display it still doesn't support hdr content on netflix or amazon prime. Their answer to that is an osie vision effect feature in settings>display>osie vision effect, which btw to use you have to also enable smart slidebar(in convinience aid) and then go the supported app>pull out smart slidebar and then enable osie effect. All this then only to see that it says 'not supported in current app'.
Now the main reason for my frustration being not able to download files when the phone is locked. I put anything on download, may it be a video in youtube app or a file in chrome or any download manager app, it downloads only till 1-2 mins after the phone is locked. I come after an hour or so and the download is stuck there. How can one not be frustrated then.
So conclusion is to hell with color os, just waiting for a stable custom rom(pixel experience rom for that matter).
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I'm on the same boat too waiting for custom ROMs to arrive. About sot problem i have installed bbs using adb and that works fine.i too can't stand the everything White ui,i had bought many substaratum themes and they're useless as of now.about download thing Allow running in the background for those apps and disable sleep standby optimization in battery menu.realme ceo said dark mode will be available in November last week and dual apps problems too.hope for the best.
vickystarboy said:
I'm on the same boat too waiting for custom ROMs to arrive. About sot problem i have installed bbs using adb and that works fine.i too can't stand the everything White ui,i had bought many substaratum themes and they're useless as of now.about download thing Allow running in the background for those apps and disable sleep standby optimization in battery menu.realme ceo said dark mode will be available in November last week and dual apps problems too.hope for the best.
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Yeah I know few development for this os in the process. For sot I use actiondash. Substratum works mostly on stock android so no use trying them. And yes about the background downloading I tried locking the apps, turning off battery optimizations for them but didn't try turning off sleep mode, will do. Thanks.
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Oppo vivo realme the os that shipped with their devices is cr*p.
Don't know whether the new stock OS realme OS be improved...
Damn, I was thinking of buying this but didnt know the stock ROM was so bad, is it stable at least? snappy?
Also any odds we get an officially supported custom ROM anytime soon?
MGREX said:
Damn, I was thinking of buying this but didnt know the stock ROM was so bad, is it stable at least? snappy?
Also any odds we get an officially supported custom ROM anytime soon?
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There are already stable custom ROMs and more coming very soon.out of India developers got their devices recently.
vickystarboy said:
There are already stable custom ROMs and more coming very soon.out of India developers got their devices recently.
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Really? which? are they official ports or unofficial?
BTW its getting 10 in february right? what are the odds it wont suck this time?
MGREX said:
BTW its getting 10 in february right? what are the odds it wont suck this time?
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I guess so too. Because they don't have much time to deeply modify the OS.
I'm facing a weird issue on my Realme X. After updating an app on Play Store, I don't see "app updated" confirmation on notification panel. I need to open Play store to check if the app is updated or not. My play store version is 17.8.14. All other notification working like when an update is available, when I install a new app etc. Only I don't get notification confirmation after updating an existing app.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I'm facing a weird issue on my Realme X. After updating an app on Play Store, I don't see "app updated" confirmation on notification panel. I need to open Play store to check if the app is updated or not. My play store version is 17.8.14. All other notification working like when an update is available, when I install a new app etc. Only I don't get notification confirmation after updating an existing app.
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Clear data of play store & play services, reboot and let those update itself, then update your apps. Also check for if any specific notification is disabled for play store.
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Clear data of play store & play services, reboot and let those update itself, then update your apps. Also check for if any specific notification is disabled for play store.
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This doesn't help. I know all these workarounds and tried already. I have created a post on Google Community and it seems like most people are facing this bug starting from 17.8.14 update. And after 17.9.17 update, it's even worse. There is no notification from Play Store whatsoever (no notification when an update is available, when an update is completed, when a new app is installed successfully). Google has screwed the notification function on Play Store.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
This doesn't help. I know all these workarounds and tried already. I have created a post on Google Community and it seems like most people are facing this bug starting from 17.8.14 update. And after 17.9.17 update, it's even worse. There is no notification from Play Store whatsoever (no notification when an update is available, when an update is completed, when a new app is installed successfully). Google has screwed the notification function on Play Store.
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Well can't say. No issues here.