Hi everyone. I haven't seen the related kinds of thread so I decided to post it. My device model is G3223.
tl;dr: It's too bright at minimum brightness during nighttime.
So during daytime the screen looks perfectly fine, no problem reading under the sunlight. But when night comes the problem arises because the phone can't go dimer, which means that the phone is still quite bright compare to my other devices when I am trying to read in bed even though the brightness is set at minimum.
Does anyone also facing this issue? Or if it's device model related?
I have the G3221 and I have the same issues. But I found 2 solutions to the problem. (well kind of) if you disable automatic brightness ? setting it will be way too bright. After enabling the auto brightness you can lower it even further. But if it still feels too bright, you can change the white balance settings to 255 which will lower the brightness even further without actually affecting anything. I hope it helps a little. ?
decron04 said:
I have the G3221 and I have the same issues. But I found 2 solutions to the problem. (well kind of) if you disable automatic brightness ? setting it will be way too bright. After enabling the auto brightness you can lower it even further. But if it still feels too bright, you can change the white balance settings to 255 which will lower the brightness even further without actually affecting anything. I hope it helps a little. ?
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Problem solved. Thanks a lot. I don't know why Sony doesn't allow us to change the brightness to the real minimum point without using automatic brightness.
For white balance I set my phone to a warm colour. For (255,255,255) [r,g,b] the screen looks too cold though, and it can also lower the brightness. I am currently using (255,147,0) so it's at least better than the original setting (0,0,0)
Speaking of warm tones, sony also hides the blue light filter in the actions section which is almost invisible and many people don't even go there. You cannot enable it otherwise. They need work on their stuff.
You can use the Twilight app to use the phone at night without stressing your eyes. It works for me when I'm reading things. ?
And of course you can use this to lower the intensity of the screen's light if not the overall brightness.
Hope this helps.
xperia.sp.lbl.rr said:
You can use the Twilight app to use the phone at night without stressing your eyes. It works for me when I'm reading things.
And of course you can use this to lower the intensity of the screen's light if not the overall brightness.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for your advice. As far as I know, apps such as twilight only draw an overlay on the screen, which means it actually doesn't affect the brightness in any ways. It just seems to be darker.
In contrast, decron04's solution can actually decrease the brightness. Don't know why Sony doesn't allow users to minimize brightness without using auto brightness.
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Hi Guys,
So I finally got the desire after being with an iPhone for the past 18 months. Lovely phone so far, even if it feels a little 'work in progress' in some depts.
Anyways!
Have any of you with the phone enabled auto brightness? Does it work? When I jump into the settings to enable it it seems to kick in (once i tick the auto brightness checkbox) but once I actually hit OK to save the changes the screen brightness shoots up again and then doesnt seem to react to ambient light.
weird.
I am running the t-mobile android (uk)
Yep, I have the same thing, glad it's not just me then!
I don't think I've seen it adjust by itself at all...
It works for me and I have seen it adjust.
im not sure really if it works because it always seems the same? i have changed it to 30% now which is just acceptable and we ll see if it gives any battery boost
cez10 said:
im not sure really if it works because it always seems the same? i have changed it to 30% now which is just acceptable and we ll see if it gives any battery boost
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That's the idea, auto brightness adjusts so that the screen looks the same brightness to your eye at any light level. When it's dark the brightness decreases and when it's light the brightness increases thus you see it as thee same due to the way your eye is already adjusted.
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im not sure really if it works because it always seems the same? i have changed it to 30% now which is just acceptable and we ll see if it gives any battery boost
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EroThraX said:
That's the idea, auto brightness adjusts so that the screen looks the same brightness to your eye at any light level. When it's dark the brightness decreases and when it's light the brightness increases thus you see it as thee same due to the way your eye is already adjusted.
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yeah Lol exactly, thats the whole point of auto screen adjustment. if you are indoors all (or most of) the time like me than keep it manual to 30-50%. otherwise leave it auto
Mine works a treat the only thing i do is when i go out the house i turn the brightness to manual and put it on full, as this is the only bad side to this phone the led does suffer in direct sun so full brightness is required.
I haven't seen any change in my screen brightness, whether in full sunlight or middle of the night in a dark room!
Is a bit annoying, would like to know if it can be fixed or we're waiting for the next firmware...
Where's the sensor ? With the Hero, placing a finger over the top part of the phone tricked the sensor but it doesn't seem to on the Desire. Interestingly though, there must be something there, the way the screen flashes up when you remove the phone from your ear
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I am running the t-mobile android (uk)
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Works fine here
It seems that on my Desire the only time the automatic brightness actually tests the light is when I unlock my screen.
I can actually see the brightness change then, but if I switch lights on/off while it's already unlocked it doesn't automaticly adapt to the light.
I only checked it through the Android SDK using Dalvik Debug Monitor and the phone certainly did continuously check and correct screen brightness according to it. Visually, it was too difficult to discern what was happening and when due to my own visual limitations when the amount of light changed.
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I've seen a couple posts about delays with adaptive brightness, but this is a different item. I'm seeing that the adaptive brightness alters the brightness a little too dramatically. In a somewhat dark room (not pitch black) the brightness will be at absolute minimum even when the brightness is about 1/3 up on the slider. In a moderately bright room that same brightness setting will be near maximum.
Does anyone else notice this as an issue? I'm just wondering if it's normal (ie, software calibration issue) or if the brightness sensor might not be seated correctly.
It's normal. Or at least it sounds like it is working the same way mine is. And yes, IMO it is a little too sensitive. The Lux app works beautifully if you want an alternative. Also, the goog is known for tweaking this feature over time with updates.
I've noticed this too. The biggest thing for me is walking down the street at dusk (so not dark out yet) I can't read the screen as it turns it all the way down, then, when I walk under a street light, it turns it all the way up to full! It's one extreme or the other, there seems to be no middle ground.
In other words "adaptive brightness has mind of its own!"
This is why I have always kept this setting off. The brightness just changing on its own always annoyed me.
When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
jbdan said:
When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
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I agree. I have it set to maybe around 15-20% (centered over the WiFi symbol below it) and I never need to touch it. Gets dark enough for night driving and bright enough to read outside. Never found it stuck on one or the other when it shouldn't be.
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If you buy the app Lux you can customize how it adapts your brightness. The free version is good to but you have to use mostly default settings. By default it only adapts brightness when the screen turns on.
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the OnePlus 3T's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
i feel that they need to dim it more, it's still annoying
One thing I noticed is that the phone offers EXTREME fine tune-ing of the lower brightness end.....when I adjust the adaptive brightness, if I click and drag the setting towards the bottom end, there is tons of adjustability available to the user to find exactly how much brightness you want. Having said that, the lowest settings appears quite dim to me (but not 'dangerously' dim)
The lowest setting for me seems to be extremely bright still, for night usage at least. Every other phone I've used has been able to get far more dim.
Anyone know of any way to lower it further actually?
Chipaton said:
The lowest setting for me seems to be extremely bright still, for night usage at least. Every other phone I've used has been able to get far more dim.
Anyone know of any way to lower it further actually?
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root it and with the help of xposed (or without) you can edit the parameters to make it even dimmer.
vikingsail said:
root it and with the help of xposed (or without) you can edit the parameters to make it even dimmer.
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What do I edit? I'm rooted with Xposed.
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What do I edit? I'm rooted with Xposed.
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check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367412
This phone is love
OnePlus 3T is just an amazing phone, I loved it
Got the device for a few weeks and there are already burn ins on the left side
If you don't want the hassle of rooting and running xposed you could just install an app from play store, I use lower brightness by Nu-Kob, nothing fancy but it does the job
I'm using rr with magisk (if any of that even matters when it comes to brightness). When the lights are off and I have the brightness all the way up I can barely look at it. But when I turn the brightness all the way down with the lights off it is perfect and I can see everything very clearly and my girlfriend or has an s6 and she is always jealous that when she turns her brightness down it's still blinding. So I think it's great.
Try Velis Auto Brightness https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.velis.auto.brightness&hl=en
no ads and it works great, tons of parameter to adjust as well.
At night, the brightness is way too much. Observing the display, f.e. playing PoGo in a park at night, you almost get night blind. If you switch automatic brightness off, there is one more step down, but this one is way too dark and without any contrast. Compared to my previous device, it's really bad. I hope, it gets fixed, if possible by the hardware at all.
I also think that the minimum brightness is not dim enough.
I rectify this using an app called Twilight - no root required - which allows to dim + apply red filter
It's usually okay for me, however I use Dimly if I need to go even lower.
With adaptive brightness on my screen frequently (every 20 seconds or so) changes brightness slightly even when the ambient light isn't changing. It's very annoying when reading and most noticeable with light backgrounds.
Is this a common issue or does it sound like I have a defective sensor?
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With adaptive brightness on my screen frequently (every 20 seconds or so) changes brightness slightly even when the ambient light isn't changing. It's very annoying when reading and most noticeable with light backgrounds.
Is this a common issue or does it sound like I have a defective sensor?
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Same here.
So annoying I had to turn adaptive off.
Seems to be when I move, probably changing sensor and it's too sensitive. My head mush change/reflect light on sensor
Anyway it's so distracting that I can't use adaptive brightness, except when pitch dark I can set to 0% adaptive to have lowest light output
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Yep, reminds me of a disco strobe light!
No issues here. I actually think the brightness swing is much better than the OG Pixel XL. I can just leave the setting at 50%. On the OG XL I'd have to turn the brightness down in the living room with lighting from 1 lamp and a tv because it'd be burning my retinas.
I installed Lux Dash and disabled "adaptive brightness" and let Lux handle it. You can go into the profile editor for Lux and setup different presets for different levels of light, you can also adjust the min and max allowed brightness and even setup how you want it to adjust brightness (fade, only set on unlock, dynamic, etc)
It has really made this screen amazing and even helps with battery because most the day my screen doesn't go above 15-20%
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No issues here. I actually think the brightness swing is much better than the OG Pixel XL. I can just leave the setting at 50%. On the OG XL I'd have to turn the brightness down in the living room with lighting from 1 lamp and a tv because it'd be burning my retinas.
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I've been fine here with the Adaptive Brightness too. Doesn't change too often at all for me.
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I installed Lux also and that did the trick. I assume the sensor is fine since Lux uses it with no problem. It's odd that some of us are having problems and others aren't but it doesn't seem to be a sensor issue.
Having this same issue any solution?
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Having this same issue any solution?
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I'm curious but how exactly is it reacting for you? Are you just sitting in bed with the lights on and it's still adjusting up and down the brightness? Cause that's what I'm doing right now and it hasn't fluctuated at all. If I put it on the bedside table it'll brighten up and when I pick it up it dims but that's it.
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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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I'm curious to hear what the tell you. Lux has helped me a lot bit I still notice it. To be fair I think I only notice in a dim or dark room with the TV on but this is the first phone I've used where it's noticeable to me. I'm also wondering if this is how it's supposed to work or if there's something wrong with my phone.
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Yeah that's too much fluctuations don't you think I mean on my iPhone x or any other iPhone that I have have used so far I never could tell that the adaptive brightness was on but this device does it in an obvious way and way too frequently that im not sure anymore if this is what it's supposed to do I chatted with a Google agent and they forced quit ambient service thing from system apps and I think that still didn't resolve the issue. I will pop up in a vz store tomorrow and check out if their display devices are doing the same
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What I described was too much? Sounds appropriate to me. If there's extra light on the phone, I want it to get brighter. If that light goes away, I want it to get dimmer. Now if it was happening with no light changing then I would be annoyed. I keep it at 29% with Adaptive Brightness on and it's not too dark in outside light and not too bright in pitch dark.
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I'm having the same issue. I'm on my second Pixel 2 XL so I don't think it's a sensor problem. I only notice it in lower lighting but it's really annoying when it happens. Haven't seen this issue on any other phone. Im trying out Lux now and set it to only adjust when waking up. There were similar issues when Lux was set to Dynamic.
Ever since Google thought they knew better than everyone else and got rid of auto brightness for adaptive brightness, it's been trash for me. I CONSTANTLY have to raise it in dark rooms and lower it in bright rooms. AKA, I might as well turn it off because I'm manually adjusting it every time anyway.
All in all, it's terrible.
Hobox10 said:
Ever since Google thought they knew better than everyone else and got rid of auto brightness for adaptive brightness, it's been trash for me. I CONSTANTLY have to raise it in dark rooms and lower it in bright rooms. AKA, I might as well turn it off because I'm manually adjusting it every time anyway.
All in all, it's terrible.
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You know Adaptive Brightness is a mix of manual and auto brightness right? I remember auto brightness actually having the issues you're describing because there was no way to adjust it if it was set. If you have Adaptive Brightness on high enough, it should be bright enough in dark and bright situations. I believe people's issues are that it adjusts too often or the opposite, it's too dark in light rooms and too bright in dark rooms.
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You know Adaptive Brightness is a mix of manual and auto brightness right? I remember auto brightness actually having the issues you're describing because there was no way to adjust it if it was set. If you have Adaptive Brightness on high enough, it should be bright enough in dark and bright situations. I believe people's issues are that it adjusts too often or the opposite, it's too dark in light rooms and too bright in dark rooms.
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Yeah I know it's supposed to be a mix somewhat. It's supposed to match the setting you set to whatever the surrounding brightness is relative to your brightness setting.
That's exactly WHY it's trash in my opinion though. It's a flawed methodology. I don't want it matching my setting relative to anything. I want it low in the dark and bright in bright rooms or the sun to be legible and not more. It tries to do some meet-you-in-the-middle garbage and it just doesn't work well.
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Yeah I know it's supposed to be a mix somewhat. It's supposed to match the setting you set to whatever the surrounding brightness is relative to your brightness setting.
That's exactly WHY it's trash in my opinion though. It's a flawed methodology. I don't want it matching my setting relative to anything. I want it low in the dark and bright in bright rooms or the sun. It tries to do some meet-you-in-the-middle garbage and it just doesn't work well.
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I found the threshold for the lowest brightness in pitch dark with Adaptive Brightness on to be 29%. That should be dark enough in dark rooms and outdoors it's readable to me. What percentages have you been trying?
Mines doing the same thing. Did anyone work out whether it was hardware?
I used a sensor app to see what light was reporting, and it was stable. I can only assume it's a bug.
For those who aren't sure - if the screen is on, and not moving, without any changes to ambient or direct light, every 20 or so seconds the screen will dim to a warmer colour, and then 20 seconds later will brighten to a whiter colour.
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Mines doing the same thing. Did anyone work out whether it was hardware?
I used a sensor app to see what light was reporting, and it was stable. I can only assume it's a bug.
For those who aren't sure - if the screen is on, and not moving, without any changes to ambient or direct light, every 20 or so seconds the screen will dim to a warmer colour, and then 20 seconds later will brighten to a whiter colour.
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Yeah I had a feeling that's what people might be experiencing.
To add on to this thread, this is also occuring on my gen 1 Pixel.
Ever since I upgraded to 8.1 the adaptive display will brighten/darken while the phone is sitting still in a constantly lit room.
I also appear to have lost much of the granularity in the brightness selecting bar. The first 25% or so is as dim as it goes, and only after that does it begin to alter the brightness. Previously it would begin around 10% on the bar.
Additionally, the logic behind adaptive brightness seems to have gotten worse. I previously left my brightness setting always in the same place, and no matter where I was it was either dim enough (at night) or bright enough (during the day).
Real unhappy with this update.
Worked Perfectly fine on Oreo but ever since the update when unlocking the screen Display Brightness goes to 0 if i have adaptive brightness on.
anyone else having the issue? so far only solution is to turn that feature off
jasonx3 said:
Worked Perfectly fine on Oreo but ever since the update when unlocking the screen Display Brightness goes to 0 if i have adaptive brightness on.
anyone else having the issue? so far only solution is to turn that feature off
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You will have to keep the feature on and keep on correcting brightness when it's too low, until the system finally understands your preferences
It took me almost 2 full days constantly playing with brightness slider, but now it's all good :good:
Seems that brightness artificial inteligence is a bit lazy....
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You will have to keep the feature on and keep on correcting brightness when it's too low, until the system finally understands your preferences
It took me almost 2 full days constantly playing with brightness slider, but now it's all good :good:
Seems that brightness artificial inteligence is a bit lazy....
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really? that's a lot of work for someone who unlocks the screen too often. i prefer older auto brightness where you set a base amount and forget it.
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really? that's a lot of work for someone who unlocks the screen too often. i prefer older auto brightness where you set a base amount and forget it.
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I agree with you, I think that the learning is a bit long and I don't understand the need to always go back to zero (it's painful)
But I must admit that once the system is calibrated, it is more efficient than the older one
This is because it is based not only on the ambient light, but also on your personal preferences.
Give it a try, If you unlock your phone very often it should take less time...
Pixel ambient services
I did not have this problem at all after updating to Pie. I never had to manually readjust.
Maybe try to train you light sensor by placing it under bright light (it should then be on the highest brightness) and afterwards in complete darkness (brightness should be lowest now).
After having witnessed very bright light and complete darkness, the sensor should already have it's baselines and should actually switch accordingly.
However if you for any reason still don't like the low brightness in dark rooms you would obviously do that manually.