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Good people,
This is a bit unusual for me, that the p6 forum will be so quite. There was time where I'll be so confused as to which rom to try and was changing them like my under wear .
Lately it's so quite it makes me wonder . I just so hope that we aren't left in the dark and that someone out the is developing smoothing good underground :fingers-crossed:
Hayeni said:
Good people,
This is a bit unusual for me, that the p6 forum will be so quite. There was time where I'll be so confused as to which rom to try and was changing them like my under wear .
Lately it's so quite it makes me wonder . I just so hope that we aren't left in the dark and that someone out the is developing smoothing good underground :fingers-crossed:
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It's very simple, our phone is getting old, and Huawei did a good job to make it slow,buggy and made developing very hard.
Huawei showed us, that they didn't care much about their customers, they waited very long to release sourcecodes, didn't improve the kernel usw. They only cared about there Ui, which is, in my opinion, the crappiest thing ever done.
We had 2 developers, who made real roms from source, but to do this they needed to use old binaries from huawei, which made it impossible to make "real" custom roms, which cpuld be officially. I don't want to say that these Roms were bad. They were really good for the sources we had. But Bugs'n Errors could mostly only be fixed with dirty hacks and workarounds .
Now our Phone has ended its livespan it's almost 2 Years old.
The dev's weren't really able to go on in development, because there was no way to get LP working on our device and every sourcecode like Carbon,CM etc upgraded their rom to Lollipop. So there will be no fixed, no updates for a KK-based rom.
I have not really looked at the new sources and can't say that we can not build LP with those, but to make a rom, like our last Custom Roms were done. I mean with using precompiled binaries, like the other Roms did, there is no way to build LP without an official LP-Rom from Huawei ... and I don't belive that this will come .. I mean ... Huawei doesn't care about this phone anymore .. it has the P7/p6s and even never ones.
Ps.: Also I want to say that our phone is really bad build, .. i have my 2nd screen in my p6, the first had a subpixelerror .. so I send it in, it took Huawei 8 weeks to repair the screen ... now a year later, I have exactly the same error in exactly the same position ... It looks Like I'll be buying a new phone in near future ... the google ara looks great
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It's very simple, our phone is getting old, and Huawei did a good job to make it slow,buggy and made developing very hard.
Huawei showed us, that they didn't care much about their customers, they waited very long to release sourcecodes, didn't improve the kernel usw. They only cared about there Ui, which is, in my opinion, the crappiest thing ever done.
We had 2 developers, who made real roms from source, but to do this they needed to use old binaries from huawei, which made it impossible to make "real" custom roms, which cpuld be officially. I don't want to say that these Roms were bad. They were really good for the sources we had. But Bugs'n Errors could mostly only be fixed with dirty hacks and workarounds .
Now our Phone has ended its livespan it's almost 2 Years old.
The dev's weren't really able to go on in development, because there was no way to get LP working on our device and every sourcecode like Carbon,CM etc upgraded their rom to Lollipop. So there will be no fixed, no updates for a KK-based rom.
I have not really looked at the new sources and can't say that we can not build LP with those, but to make a rom, like our last Custom Roms were done. I mean with using precompiled binaries, like the other Roms did, there is no way to build LP without an official LP-Rom from Huawei ... and I don't belive that this will come .. I mean ... Huawei doesn't care about this phone anymore .. it has the P7/p6s and even never ones.
Ps.: Also I want to say that our phone is really bad build, .. i have my 2nd screen in my p6, the first had a subpixelerror .. so I send it in, it took Huawei 8 weeks to repair the screen ... now a year later, I have exactly the same error in exactly the same position ... It looks Like I'll be buying a new phone in near future ... the google ara looks great
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Thank you for the detailed reply and I guess you're correct by saying it is time to upgrade . Which device do you prefer, as there's plenty of good android devices out there?
Hayeni said:
Thank you for the detailed reply and I guess you're correct by saying it is time to upgrade . Which device do you prefer, as there's plenty of good android devices out there?
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I'm waiting for "project ara" from google, but I quess many other phones are very good on the market ... eg. google nexus 6 or 5, also samsung devices have a very good community with many devs and roms, but I don't like their build-quality and also their price-policy, ... there are many things I hate about samsung
I agree with everything said above! The P6 was a great idea, at the time it was the highest spec phone for the price (in the uk). In the months after i bought my P6 however, new high spec - low price phones were brought out (nexus 5, oneplus one) that were just better than the p6. I don't mind EMUI, but I can see how some would dislike it. I dislike the lack of support that Huawei gives, and I will definitely not be buying a Huawei phone again.
Don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting for the OnePlus 2! Hopefully they will keep the price down
raolleel said:
I'm waiting for "project ara" from google, but I quess many other phones are very good on the market ... eg. google nexus 6 or 5, also samsung devices have a very good community with many devs and roms, but I don't like their build-quality and also their price-policy, ... there are many things I hate about samsung
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Mmh Project Ara is nice but I'm still hoping for vsenn.com they din't really showed anything until now but they promise very good stuff
I'm going maybe for Sailfish OS, I like the idea of the OS and the mentality of the company (Sooo much communtity listening).
Sadly I come less and less often here, only to find... nothing new. The Ascend P6 is a great phone... and HAD potential, which was not used. I am also looking forward to the end of my contract (November) and choosing something else. Most likely it won't be Huawei again.
Because my Phone broke after i dropped it and because I thought the develeopment was dying i switched to xperia z2.
Hayeni said:
Thank you for the detailed reply and I guess you're correct by saying it is time to upgrade . Which device do you prefer, as there's plenty of good android devices out there?
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Wait for the P8
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Or HTC One M9
Agreed
It really has gone quiet. Perhaps we can ask XDA to add some tumbleweed animations to the P6 page.
I tend to agree with the first post, the P6 was ok but never quite good enough. I have multiple devices and the P6 has now been relegated to bottom of the list
rodjordan said:
It really has gone quiet. Perhaps we can ask XDA to add some tumbleweed animations to the P6 page.
I tend to agree with the first post, the P6 was ok but never quite good enough. I have multiple devices and the P6 has now been relegated to bottom of the list
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Hello my fellow guys, just want to let you know that I've got myself the beast Sony Xperia Z2 and am so delighted. Now just patiently waiting for the Lollipop update.
I really liked the P6 actually. Great specs, amazing design and really really cheap. I kind of liked EMUI too. Its sad to see its development die out and I do wish Huawei people were more involved.
I will be sticking to my P6 at least until google ARA comes out.
Hayeni said:
Hello my fellow guys, just want to let you know that I've got myself the beast Sony Xperia Z2 and am so delighted. Now just patiently waiting for the Lollipop update.
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I went with Samsung on many occasions but recently I switched to Sony and I have to say I am very happy. I bought the Z1 Compact, high quality hardware and software and timely updates. I also bought the massive Z Ultra because the price recently dropped to bargain level.
The hardware manufacturers underestimate the value in keeping the phone updated in good time.
In my opinion, a user with a phone with regular quality updates is likely to stay with that brand.
Do you know when we can expect a ROM based on Android O?
Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
Baconator724 said:
Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
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One of the Developer's for PA is also one of the 30 teams members of nextbit.
There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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Except those are all fake. The LOS maintainers won't actually know if a device will support LOS 15 until they actually try porting it in the first place. As of now, they haven't tried for the Nextbit Robin yet, so we don't know if the Robin could actually get LOS 15 yet.
If you wanna keep tabs on what devices are currently being worked on, go to https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/statuspen and look for anything being commited to the lineageos-15.0 branch for android_device_nextbit_ether.
Software updates till February as they say on Twitter. Apart from nextbits cloud framework the OS is pretty much stock AOSP and it seems to me they're really good with releasing kernel source and providing updates almost every three months.
Robin, on N, is a mess. If it does eventually get O, it will be a while. We cannot upgrade it to O until we fix out the bugs we have on N first.
What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
DarkExistence said:
Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
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I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
HeaDekBatHblu said:
I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
DarkExistence said:
I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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My apologies if I seemed aggressive. Official development seems to be like any other manufacturer, however, as we all know, software support is ending soon. I've been following Gerrit and have noticed the ongoing development by our developers (including you). IIRC camera was borked on one of the nightlies, but was immediately fixed. IMO, we are now depending on development from our ether devs rather than official support since Nextbit have been ghosting for the past few months.
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Keep in mind what DarkExistence said, and realize the Robin's closest equivalent is a Nexus 5. If you can get better & newer hardware for a little more money, do so. I got mine as an "emergency" replacement when I was short on funds a few months ago. I lucked into an eBay sale & discount code which brought the phone to about 100.00. I'm happy with it, but I wish Razer would have made good sources available & gave full permission for them to be hosted elsewhere. So the devs didn't get so frustrated with what should be a decent phone to run custom ROMs on.
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
oh1blksheep said:
What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Yes, for $130 it's worth buying. The bugs on android N are not nearly as bad as what some claim them to be.
Here's as list of what I can recall:
1. Enhance colors distorts colors (so turn it off)
2. Screen static displays when unlocking phone for 1/10th of a second with some roms
3. You can hear The Speakers turn off after sound has stopped playing if You listen closely
4. Headphones with a mic sometimes cut out and play through internal Speakers although there is as work around for this
5. Audio fx does not work
Other than any of those there is not much i can personally complain about and I own 2 robins. About to get a moto g4 plus because it's time for something that has a larger XDA fourm and something that has been confirmed to get android O (wich nextbit has yet to announce a decision to besides "we have been discussing it").
If I were You and my budget was under $200 i'd get The robin.
If You can spend $225 get The g4 plus without a doubt. Hope this helps
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
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I like it, especially for the price. Currently using CarbonROM rooted with Magisk. Just realize you're getting a phone with zero support from the manufacturer, so don't spend more than you're willing to lose.
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DarkExistence said:
I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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Well thank you for being the maintainer on Ether. I just ordered the phone. 129.00 for a phone with these specs. Couldn't pass it up. I'm sure you will eventually make AICP stable. Thank you for your honesty.
Hey everyone!
Just wanted to ask a couple questions and start another discussion thread for those of us that have Oreo installed on our devices.
Questions:
With twrp on oreo, what's the status on the flashable version?
Anyone currently or thinking about creating new roms, kernels, etc for the device?
Lastly, what are some things that the nondevs here can do to help us all out?
Hope to see some good discussions
Thanks in advance!
Idk anything about the status of TWRP, so I can't help you there. Overall, I know there was an effort to get a device to a dev, and it was successful. Invisiblek now has one. Looks like he's working on lineage, which is super awesome.
The device now has a repo on the lineage github, so you can see work is being done. As for a timeframe, no clue, just have patience and know that it'll be released once it's ready. We're fortunate that Moto has already updated us to Oreo and it's a pretty stock interface. Only way they could've done better in my view would have been to update the device to support project treble, but that's an entirely different story.
That's about all I know, hope it helps somewhat.
Patience indeed. It'll move along at some point. Next to Sony, I think Moto has one of the cleanest implementations of Android, so it's definitely bearable.
Plus, with the price dropping into "steal" territory, I see more smart ppl coming this way.
Yea thank you guys! I'm being as patient as can be and I just wanted to have a thread here were any and all of us curious folks can have a place to talk about the upcoming of this device and the near future development holds for it. I didn't know it was on lineages repo so that's awesome to hear! That's a perfect example of why I created this post, just to spread the word into one forum and just have a couple chats with everyone about the moto.
Cheers guys, hope to hear more from others too!
Personally, I wanted to know why people who use the bike g5s do not have new customs roms, is it difficult to produce something like this or does anyone have an interest in our smartphone ??? I particularly see the G5 / G5 Plus line and they have great roms, some even on android 8.1.0,
Because this device hardbrick easy, no one is taking the risk
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Personally, I wanted to know why people who use the bike g5s do not have new customs roms, is it difficult to produce something like this or does anyone have an interest in our smartphone ??? I particularly see the G5 / G5 Plus line and they have great roms, some even on android 8.1.0,
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how you can see, in the last time al activity was concentrated on unbricked bricked devices
even kalyansundhar(developper of lineage)has his device bricked.
he fixed the phone now but not 100% functionaly, touch not working
hope he will continue the development for g5s
also for develop a rom, to sustain it, to upgrade it, to develop new roms is need by much time and knowledge to spend for all this
that developpers doesnt ask for money for theyr's work or else, but this g5s comunity are not abble to press even that "thanks" button for this.
i look in my thread, kalyansundhar get a fix for unbriking the bricked device
a lot of the phones was revived to life becouse of him, but none of them was abble to press that magic button(look his post with tutorial)
that "Thanks" button is a free way added by xda stuff for user to be abble to show theyr's gratitude(i beleive that doesnt exist in this comunity,only few have it)
is a free way(not cost money) just a click from mouse, a small move like this can help and encorage the developpers to continue theyr's work
even so i hope the development for g5s will not die,
how you can see, indeed the development has stopped
Thankyou!
I made a conversation with "UK" Xiaomi support, and they said "We also don't know the release date either but we hope it will come around early/before 2020"
And I know that someone published android 10 update will come this week/month etc, but it won't. This release date could be true for Mi A3(even they said it will come like in October).
Please and please do not ask questions about this, other news are completely wrong, please believe me. If you are a member of Telegram, you can see my screenshot also.
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I made a conversation with "UK" Xiaomi support, and they said "We also don't know the release date either but we hope it will come around early/before 2020"
And I know that someone published android 10 update will come this week/month etc, but it won't. This release date could be true for Mi A3(even they said it will come like in October).
Please and please do not ask questions about this, other news are completely wrong, please believe me. If you are a member of Telegram, you can see my screenshot also.
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So you want us to believe you ( a totally anonymous poster on the internet) over other totally anonymous posters on the internet? Is that what you're saying?
well, its aaallll just rabble anyway. nobody knows yet.
i contacted uk xiaomi helpdesk, person there swore its due in 2 weeks max, that was 3 weeks ago
it comes when it comes. there are good a10 roms here that works good after some tweaking. i use gsi version as a daily driver for weeks now.
Well so far I'm the only one who's been right ? so believe me fellow anonymous strangers
Miui 11 update came last week on my other device and it has almost every Android 10 features...
Come on it shouldnt be hard. Even their heavy bloated miui phones took Android 10 update. Our phone is pure Android. It shouldnt take much time.
perfect_ said:
Come on it shouldnt be hard. Even their heavy bloated miui phones took Android 10 update. Our phone is pure Android. It shouldnt take much time.
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Yeah but they don't really like maintaining their AndroidOne devices I suppose.