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[SIZE=+3]Frequently Asked Questions[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]HTC One (M8)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]This a short list of frequently asked questions in this device forum and the answers often given as a response. It should serve as a starting point for gathering knowledge and finding solutions to many common problems. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank you" type responses. If you have additional questions or require more help, try to find an existing thread or create your own. Do not use this as a general help thread.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Q1: What's the difference between "Development" and "Original Development"?[/SIZE]
Here are the rough guidelines as to what should be placed in "Original Development":
*Official release of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them).
*Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
*A significant "first" in development for a device. This is something which took considerable time/effort and is generally accepted by developers to be non-trivial.
*Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available.
*Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
*Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to the users of the target device.
All other development work goes into "Android Development".
[SIZE=+1]Q2: How do I root my phone?[/SIZE]
First you need to unlock your bootloader. To do that, go to http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader. On the supported devices list, choose "HTC One (M8)"
Download the following file to your phone (either directly on your phone or transfer it via your computer) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/v27kh5nkpo3nfum/superuser.zip
Download the latest PhilZ Touch or TWRP recoveries and flash it by using fastboot commands. (It doesn't matter which recovery you use but I personally recommend TWRP.)
Once you've done that, reboot into recovery (using the combination in the next question) and flash the SuperSU.zip you already downloaded. Once complete, reboot and you'll be rooted.
Squabbi's Toolkit - If you're looking to root your phone quickly and easily this is the method for you.
hasoon2000's Toolkit - Here's another toolkit to root your phone quickly and easily.
*NOTE* I'll never recommend using a toolkit to root your device if you don't know how to do it manually because if you don't know how to root your phone manually, you shouldn't be rooting your phone.
*NOTE* Always be sure to double check everything you read and follow the instructions carefully.
[SIZE=+1]Q3: How can I enter bootloader mode & recovery mode?[/SIZE]
To enter bootloader mode make sure your phone is turned off. Turn it back on while holding the 'volume down' button and you will successfully enter bootloader mode.
To enter recovery mode, you will need to enter the bootloader (as detailed above) then use the 'volume down' button to navigate to 'RECOVERY'. Press the power button to confirm your choice. You'll now be booted into your custom recovery.
[SIZE=+1]Q4: What is the best ROM/kernel/modem?[/SIZE]
Honestly, there is no "best". It's all based on personal choice. For example; I may like heavily customizing my ROMs whereas you may like it to look at basic as possible. The best thing you can do is to just test out different ROMs/kernels/modems and see which you prefer.
[SIZE=+1]Q5: What do terms like S-Off, RUU, MID etc. mean?[/SIZE]
Have a read through the following guide to better understand what these terms actually mean - [GUIDE] Everything Explained by @exad
[SIZE=+1]Q6: Can I install an OTA with a custom recovery or if I have a custom ROM/kernel?[/SIZE]
No, you can't. Don't try installing an OTA if you're using CWM, TWRP or Philz as it won't work. It will only install via the stock recovery.
You'll also need to make sure that you're on the stock ROM and stock kernel.
[SIZE=+1]Q7: I hear a lot about ADB. What is it?[/SIZE]
Find out everything you need to know by reading the following thread - ADB Workshop and Guide for everyone.
[SIZE=+1]Q8: Am I required to backup my ROM before flashing anything else?[/SIZE]
No you're not, but it is definitely a good idea, especially when flashing a ROM with an updated base, because if you don't do a backup and then something goes wrong, it means that you'll lose all your apps, data etc. It just saves a lot of hassle.
[SIZE=+1]Q9: Does this phone have good battery life?[/SIZE]
It's impossible to give you a perfect answer because there are so many different aspects which can affect battery life. We all have different apps installed, use our phones for different amounts of time, have different ROMs and kernels installed etc. so we will all experience different results regarding battery life.
Take a look at the Battery Stats Thread to see the usage & average battery life of other forum members.
[SIZE=+1]Q10: This phone is amazing and I want to tell others how good it is.[/SIZE]
Woah! Wait a moment. DON'T create a new thread to tell us what you think of the M8. Instead, you can post your review in the following thread - Reviews thread
[SIZE=+1]Q11: Are there any hardware/software issues with this phone which I should be aware of?[/SIZE]
To find a list of bugs/known issues, check out the following thread - HTC One M8 Bug-Find List. If you find any issues or solutions to current issues, post it into that thread and make the OP aware of it so that the list can be kept up-to-date.
[SIZE=+1]Q12: I'm not sure whether to get the HTC One M8/what other phones compare to the M8?[/SIZE]
The only person who can make you want the device is you. If you're not sure whether to get this phone, go to your local phone shop which has stock and have a test run of it for yourself. This will give you a good feel as to whether you'll like the One M8 or not.
One thing to remember, if you're asking in this M8 forum, is that you're likely to get biased results. After all, the members who you're asking most likely either have the M8 or will be getting it.
If you're not sure what device to get and want to compare between your choices, please feel free to use the following thread - Device Suggestion Thread
[SIZE=+1]Q13: When will the M8 be S-Off?[/SIZE]
The M8 is now S-Off. Check out the following thread to find out how to make your device S-Off - SunShine for modern Motorola & HTC devices
*NOTE* As you'll soon notice if you decide to S-Off, it'll cost you $25 to do so. Don't even think about moaning about the price here or especially in the SunShine thread. If you don't want to pay that price, don't S-Off or spend all the money and hours required to get an exploit for yourself!
[SIZE=+1]Q14: I have a custom recovery installed but I can't boot into it.[/SIZE]
Use the command - fastboot erase cache.
You should now be able to boot into recovery.
[SIZE=+1]Q15: I don't like Blinkfeed. Can I get rid of it?[/SIZE]
Yes you can.
To do so, swipe right from BlinkFeed so that you reach the "traditional" Android homescreen. Long press on an empty part of the screen and select "Manage home screen pages". You'll then see each of your home screens across the middle of your screen. Simply swipe across to the BlinkFeed screen and click "Remove".
If you change your mind and decide you want to add BlinkFeed again, copy the above steps until you see all your home screens and on the left hand panel you'll see the option "+BLINKFEED". Click that and you've now got it back.
[SIZE=+1]Q16: I have a T-Mobile/AT&T HTC One M8. Can I flash the ROMs in this forum?[/SIZE]
Yes, at least you should be able to.
If you're not sure, check the OP of the ROM thread and search within the thread to find out for sure. The main variant with which you may not be able to flash ROMs in this forum is the Sprint model. As the Sprint variant is a CDMA device, and the others are GSM, ROMs from this forum may not work.
[SIZE=+1]Q17: How can I change the shortcuts on my lockscreen?[/SIZE]
It's actually really simple. All you have to do is drag an app icon from your app drawer to your dock (either side of the app drawer icon) and then lock your screen to see that it has also been changed there aswell.
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Okay guys, I've created this FAQ as I done the same to help those with the M7 and thought I'd do the same over here aswell.
Only post in this thread if you have an addition/improvement for this FAQ!
If you don't have an addition/improvement for this FAQ, then DON'T POST IN HERE! If you do, your post will be deleted on sight.
If you have a question, either ask in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum by creating your own thread OR ask in a currently existing thread which is the same topic. Only ask your question after you've already searched for the answer yourself though.
If any questions or irrelevant posts get made in this thread, just ignore them. I will clean them up when I see them. Replying to such posts won't help the situation in the slightest.
This IS NOT a help thread. This is simply an FAQ so NO questions should be being asked or answered in here.
Cheers,
- KidCarter93
I think it might be a good idea to explain what S-OFF is/does and the differences between GPE and Sense and GPE conversion. I could see that coming up a lot.
exad said:
I think it might be a good idea to explain what S-OFF is/does and the differences between GPE and Sense and GPE conversion. I could see that coming up a lot.
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Good idea. Cheers. I'll add it to the OP over the next few days when I get more free time
Seahorse said:
You cover How to S-Off, but this doesn't answer why you would want to and what it allows...
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That's already been suggested in the post above yours.
My apologies for lack of updates thus far but I'm been really busy in real life and therefore haven't had the time.
I will definitely update over the next couple of days
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First of all, as I mentioned in post #2, questions shouldn't be being asked in here. Suggestions are fine and even welcomed but questions are not.
Now, regarding adding information about S-Off, RUU's, CID/SuperCID etc. I'm debating creating a separate thread for such information. While I could always add certain parts into this FAQ, to properly explain each of these terms and exactly what they do would somewhat drown and overshadow all other information in this thread as well as most likely being more awkward to have it contained into a readable format.
I'm currently in talks with some other members about a potential new thread and am awaiting responses before I know how I'm going to deal with this. Until that point, the above posts will be kept here (not deleted yet) so that I don't forget about them.
That does not mean that questions are okay to be asked here. Read post #2 and stick to it
I'll update here once a decision has been made either way
Sent from my HTC One via XDA Premium
I've just updated the FAQ to include Q5 which includes a guide to explain things like S-Off, RUU etc.
As always, please let me know if there's anything which should be added and don't forget that questions are to be asked in a separate Q&A thread, NOT this thread!
I think this needs to be put in....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773203
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If you don't have an addition/improvement for this FAQ, then DON'T POST IN HERE! If you do, your post will be deleted on sight.
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Hi, as I saw more than once the question why there isn't any option to disable bluetooth visibility. This would be a good addition I think:
In essence this is a new "feature" HTC introduced for non-technical users.
The bluetooth visibility on an HTC One M8 works as follows. If you got your bluetooth activated AND you are in the Bluetooth settings screen the HTC One M8 ist visible for ohter devices. If you close this screen it is invisible to other devices.
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OTA and custom recoveries
Can I install the OTA with my custom recovery? Why is my phone not working after installing the OTA??
You cannot install an OTA unless you have a completely STOCK ROM and a completely STOCK kernel. If you have flashed a custom recovery do not download & install the OTA.
I've just updated the FAQ to include Q6 which is about installing OTA updates
nkk71 said:
but why is the FAQ sticky being used as Q&A thread
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^^^This. As is mentioned in the OP, as well as having been stated a few times in this thread, this is a FAQ and not a help thread. If you have any questions either ask in the dedicated Help Thread or create a new thread within the Q&A section.
As always, only post in this thread if you have any suggestions for additional content to be added to the FAQ.
Updated the FAQ with an edit to Q13. As pointed out by @xunholyx, the S-Off needed updating to the SunShine thread rather than the old thread.
As always, if you have any potential additions to be added let me know by either posting here or sending me a PM.
Also, be sure to post here ONLY if you have an addition to the FAQ. Anything else will either be deleted or moved to a relevant location, dependant on what's deemed necessary.
Any questions should be asked in the Q&A forum or in the M8 Help Thread.
Cheers
Thank you very much for this. just got my m8 and wondering how to determine whether ROMs are compatible with the device if the thread does not specify it? i have the "m8_ul" variant (2.5ghz). i just want to make sure.
hey guys,
after doing a factory reset my m8 automaticly went into the twrp custom recovery which restarts over and over again.
i cant turn off the device.
please help
gilmirmo said:
hey guys,
after doing a factory reset my m8 automaticly went into the twrp custom recovery which restarts over and over again.
i cant turn off the device.
please help
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This isn't a support thread, its a repository for maintaining FAQs and their answers.
Does anyone ever answer queries in this forum or do they just look at them? I've posted 3 times and I find it highly unlikely that I'm not the only one with the issues I posted about.
mrme01 said:
Does anyone ever answer queries in this forum or do they just look at them? I've posted 3 times and I find it highly unlikely that I'm not the only one with the issues I posted about.
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Unlikely yes. But did you consider the fact that is possible that the folks (like myself) that looked at your post didn't know the solution? We can respond to your post that we don't know the answer, but that doesn't' really add any value.
The notion that nobody here answers any questions is ridiculous, and its also insulting to those that spend countless hours helping others. If you look at other threads, you will see plenty of answers. Also, your last question was just asked 2 hours ago. So maybe an answer is still forthcoming.
redpoint73 said:
Unlikely yes. But did you consider the fact that is possible that the folks (like myself) that looked at your post didn't know the solution? We can respond to your post that we don't know the answer, but that doesn't' really add any value.
The notion that nobody here answers any questions is ridiculous, and its also insulting to those that spend countless hours helping others. If you look at other threads, you will see plenty of answers. Also, your last question was just asked 2 hours ago. So maybe an answer is still forthcoming.
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I didn't insinuate that no one gets answered, I noticed that the more technical the question (my post about not being able to remove stock apps), the more likely that someone will know the answer as it's a more common issue. However, there's an issue inside the system if either the lockscreen isn't secure or I'm unable to switch keyboard that someone must have either A) some knowledge on how that particular thing works or B) someone else has posted about it and been answered, but I don't know what to search for.
I apologise for being rash in my previous comment, but not being secure or using the stock keyboard is somewhat annoying. This being the number 1 usergroup for these issues, it's easy to see why when questions like these go unanswered, it becomes annoying.
I reflashed to stock after every thing I tried bar factory resetting my phone to get over my loudspeaker issues. Some ROM developer out there must have intimate knowledge of how Android handles audio routing.
mrme01 said:
I didn't insinuate that no one gets answered, I noticed that the more technical the question (my post about not being able to remove stock apps), the more likely that someone will know the answer as it's a more common issue. However, there's an issue inside the system if either the lockscreen isn't secure or I'm unable to switch keyboard that someone must have either A) some knowledge on how that particular thing works or B) someone else has posted about it and been answered, but I don't know what to search for.
I apologise for being rash in my previous comment, but not being secure or using the stock keyboard is somewhat annoying. This being the number 1 usergroup for these issues, it's easy to see why when questions like these go unanswered, it becomes annoying.
I reflashed to stock after every thing I tried bar factory resetting my phone to get over my loudspeaker issues. Some ROM developer out there must have intimate knowledge of how Android handles audio routing.
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I've went to the threads you started and answered your questions. I'm not sure if they are the answers you need, but I figured I'd try to help.
Not all questions get a response. It's the way it is. It depends who sees it, and if they have the answer.
EDIT: This is a FAQ thread, not a place to ask questions. I shouldn't have even responded.
I have been looking online for some time to see if there's a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 2013 , a HOW-TO guide, or an app which would allow me to use a bluetooth dongle via an OTG cable. Unfortunately I have yet to find anything.
I tried to recompile a Cyanogenmod kernel with btusb (one attempt within the kernel and the other as a module). The compile failed saying that btusb is returning an invalid pointer type.
My questions are, has anyone succeeded in doing this? I have seen posts about people discussing inserting the btusb module for other devices.
Is the Nexus 7 (2013) device unable to utilise this kernel module? Can anyone suggest what I may try or where I should look.
More details of what I've done to date are on request. I didn't want to write a long-winded post in the unlikelihood it will be answered.
Thank you.
I've (similarly) asked this question several times across a number of different fora with no response to date.
Is asking for external usb bluetooth support for a Nexus 7 (2013) a 'taboo' topic?
Sorry if I offended anyone.
The best I've managed to-date was to attempt a kernel recompile with btusb included (both in-built and as a module) but without success, ie. compilation ends in error. Is the btusb module incompatible for this architecture?
T807A (ATT) Questions
Howdy All,
I've successfully rooted a Nook Color and Nook HD in the past, but it has been a while and my skills are rusty. Just yesterday I purchased a used Tab S 10.5 16GB T807A (AT&T) for 200 bucks from a girl on BooKoo. It is in prestine condition and still has the plastic stuff you peel off the back and sides. Anyway.... I have a few questions.
I've tried my best to read up on all the info on this forum and there are so many bits of information in so many different places its hard for me to wrap my head around it so I figured I'd ask to see if there is a one-stop, step-by-step set of instructions for rooting this bad boy.
1. Is it possible to root the T807A? (Older posts say no, but newer posts make it seem possible)
2. If I am able to root it, do I lose the ability to use the broadband data? (Will the ATT network try to update it thus effecting my root access)?
3. It looked like from some of the posts I read, someone was looking for someone with a T807A in order to get a clean back up of the original software from the device. If I can be of assistance, please let me know how to upload what you need from my completely stock device.
Here are the current specs:
Android Version - 4.4.2
Baseband Version - T807AUCU1ANJ5
Kernel Version - 3.4.39-2974855 / [email protected] #1 / Sat Oct 11 14:12:56 KST 2014
My apologies if all this info has been disucssed before, I tried my best to read up and get the info I needed without asking questions.
Brandon
bubbathaluva said:
Howdy All,
I've successfully rooted a Nook Color and Nook HD in the past, but it has been a while and my skills are rusty. Just yesterday I purchased a used Tab S 10.5 16GB T807A (AT&T) for 200 bucks from a girl on BooKoo. It is in prestine condition and still has the plastic stuff you peel off the back and sides. Anyway.... I have a few questions.
I've tried my best to read up on all the info on this forum and there are so many bits of information in so many different places its hard for me to wrap my head around it so I figured I'd ask to see if there is a one-stop, step-by-step set of instructions for rooting this bad boy.
1. Is it possible to root the T807A? (Older posts say no, but newer posts make it seem possible)
2. If I am able to root it, do I lose the ability to use the broadband data? (Will the ATT network try to update it thus effecting my root access)?
3. It looked like from some of the posts I read, someone was looking for someone with a T807A in order to get a clean back up of the original software from the device. If I can be of assistance, please let me know how to upload what you need from my completely stock device.
Here are the current specs:
Android Version - 4.4.2
Baseband Version - T807AUCU1ANJ5
Kernel Version - 3.4.39-2974855 / [email protected] #1 / Sat Oct 11 14:12:56 KST 2014
My apologies if all this info has been disucssed before, I tried my best to read up and get the info I needed without asking questions.
Brandon
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Oh, and I am also curious if I need to update or downgrade to anything before I try to root...
I know there are probably guides, but it is hard to tell what is up to date or not. And the guides are confusing because they'll say something like 'First, flash to 10B'. Well that alone is beyond my current knowledge. It seems like at this point, it is a difficult task, using different programs and techniques, and crossing my fingers that it doesn't brick my phone.
You should look in Settings / About Phone. / Software Version to see if it's a 'k' revision. Here's a link to a thread discussion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...d-6-0-help-t3428736/post68050061#post68050061
Hi,
for a couple of weeks now I am regularly visiting this forum in order to see what's going on around the LG v30. What I found hard in the beginning was to understand which information e.g. in the WTF thread really applies to my device, because oftentimes postings need to differentiate between instructions for H930, H932, H998 etc. And I also have often seen people installing a ROM meant for only one or a few of the v30 version on another v30 variant, e.g. ROMs for only H930 getting installed on H932 or so, where it is not working. And even more often I have seen the question which v30 variant people are using when someone else is posting questions about problems on his/her device here. Therefore I wonder whether it might make sense to include separate boards for variants of the v30, like it was done for e.g. the LG G6 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6. In that forum the vast majority of the threads are about the main variant (H870 for the G6) while sub-forums exist for the T-Mobile, the Verizon and other variants of the LG G6. While I was active in that board I have much less seen confusion about instructions for one G6 variant getting applied on another variant (which of course may also be for different reasons than the board structure). So it perhaps could also be helpful for the v30 forum.
Is that a good idea?
Ecthelion3 said:
Hi,
for a couple of weeks now I am regularly visiting this forum in order to see what's going on around the LG v30. What I found hard in the beginning was to understand which information e.g. in the sticky thread really applies to my device, because oftentimes postings need to differentiate between instructions for H930, H932, H998 etc. And I also have often seen people installing a ROM meant for only one or a few of the v30 version on another v30 variant, e.g. ROMs for only H930 getting installed on H932 or so, where it is not working. And even more often I have seen the question which v30 variant people are using when someone else is posting questions about problems on his/her device here. Therefore I wonder whether it might make sense to include separate boards for variants of the v30, like it was done for e.g. the LG G6 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6. In that forum the vast majority of the threads are about the main variant (H870 for the G6) while sub-forums exist for the T-Mobile, the Verizon and other variants of the LG G6. While I was active in that board I have much less seen confusion about instructions for one G6 variant getting applied on another variant (which of course may also be for different reasons than the board structure). So it perhaps could also be helpful for the v30 forum.
Is that a good idea?
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Uhmm... have you read the Root Sticky Guide? It pretty much explains everything but people don't read it.
We don't need subforums for different variants, as there's not that much difference.
For the most part all ROMs are compatible with all variants. All "H930" ROMS are just "V30" ROMs.
The only exception is the new Android 10 ROMs, which are not compatible H932 yet.
Again the Root Sticky explains the differences.
ChazzMatt said:
Uhmm... have you read the Root Sticky Guide? It pretty much explains everything but people don't read it.
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Yes, I have read it, I even mentioned it above (called it sticky "thread", sorry).
We don't need subforums for different variants, as there's not that much difference.
For the most part all ROMs are compatible with all variants. All "H930" ROMS are just "V30" ROMs.
The only exception is the new Android 10 ROMs, which are not compatible H932 yet.
Again the Root Sticky explains the differences.
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Just fine. From my observations I thought it might be a good idea. If I'm the only then it probably is not .
Ecthelion3 said:
Yes, I have read it, I even mentioned it above (called it sticky "thread", sorry).
Just fine. From my observations I thought it might be a good idea. If I'm the only then it probably is not .
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The G6 is different. LG messed up with that phone, for instance having regionalized specs (some have quad DAC, some have Qi wireless charging, some have none of those). The V30 is what the G6 should have been.
Some people have asked for dedicated threads to root their specific variant, instead of the WTF thread -- because they don't want to go through the "decision tree" structure (if you A, do B, if you have X, go to Y) -- but I'm not creating 20 different threads when the procedure is basically the same for all!
1) you get onto early Oreo firmware ware with fastboot flash commands
2) you unlock your bootloader
The only real outlier among the V30 is the T-mobile H932. It has a different method of root due to totally different RSA encryption and they don't have fastboot flash commands. But of all the North American variants (except for T-mobile H932) you can cross flash firmware willy nilly and convert one to another: US998, LS998, H933, H931, VS995, AS998, and even H932PR (Puerto Rico).
For the H930 variants, same thing: H930, H930D, H930DS, H930G. The only difference is the modems on those do not change, unlike the North American variants. You can't add/remove LTE bands on the H930 variants.
But all the LOS-16 ROMS are compatible with ALL the variants, so having sub-forums would make people think they need one particular variant to run an "H930" when they don't. They sometimes think that even now because they do NOT read. They will say, "Where's the US998 ROMs?" They are all "US998" ROMs!
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Ecthelion3 said:
Hi,
for a couple of weeks now I am regularly visiting this forum in order to see what's going on around the LG v30. What I found hard in the beginning was to understand which information e.g. in the sticky thread really applies to my device, because oftentimes postings need to differentiate between instructions for H930, H932, H998 etc.
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What variant do you have? Have you unlocked bootloader yet and rooted?
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What variant do you have? Have you unlocked bootloader yet and rooted?
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I am having the H930 with unlocked bootloader but not rooted. I found that the sticky thread on rooting, https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/unlocking-rooting-twrp-magisk-step-step-t3745006, indeed gives a good rundown on how to unlock (and root). What first confused me was the WTF thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193, which I stumbled across first and which IIRC I read at least twice until I realized that for my H930 there must be a much simpler way, such as for the LG G6. And such a way is described in the sticky thread. So I should correct my initial posting here, because it was not the sticky thread on rooting but the WTF that made be confused. But anyway, the idea of adding sub forums doesn't seem to be as good as I thought.
Ecthelion3 said:
I am having the H930 with unlocked bootloader but not rooted. I found that the sticky thread on rooting, https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/unlocking-rooting-twrp-magisk-step-step-t3745006, indeed gives a good rundown on how to unlock (and root). What first confused me was the WTF thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193, which I stumbled across first and which IIRC I read at least twice until I realized that for my H930 there must be a much simpler way, such as for the LG G6. And such a way is described in the sticky thread. So I should correct my initial posting here, because it was not the sticky thread on rooting but the WTF that made be confused. But anyway, the idea of adding sub forums doesn't seem to be as good as I thought.
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ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
This is the root sticky thread I was talking about. Start with Post #1. That's the thread everyone should read. It explains about unlocking bootloader, rooting, and custom roms for ALL variants.
The thread that you mention is outdated. It has old TWRP, and root check/encryption disabler files. I do not suggest using that for actual rooting. The WTF thread is current.
In fact if you look at the final few posts of the thread you mention it says several times to go use the WTF thread and not that one.
The thread you mention is really only for bootloader unlock for those variants which can receive official bootloader unlock. Which are 2.25: EU H930, H93OG and only one minor flavor US998. Whereas WTF covers every variant in the world (except for T-Mobile H932) -- for bootloader unlock, TWRP Installation, root.
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ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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IMHO rooting should be done with a specific need, e.g. wanting to use Magisk or so. At the moment I have no such need. That's why I - for the moment - only did the step of unlocking my V30.
This is the root sticky thread I was talking about. Start with Post #1. That's the thread everyone should read. It explains about unlocking bootloader, rooting, and custom roms for ALL variants.
The thread that you mention is outdated.
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This is one of the symptoms that let me get to the conclusion that some more structure would be helpful. That thread you mentioned above links to two other threads, one for the T-Mobile variant, one for all other variants. The latter one again has instructions for many V30 device types. IMHO multiple sticky threads with partially outdated or perhaps even contradictory content are not really helpful. And IMHO very long thread postings that want to combine a couple of V30 variants with all of their special needs may be hard to understand and may lead to problems when people don't understand them correctly and then apply instructions that are not correct for their device. Don't get me wrong: I'm glad the WTF thread exists, I just found it hard to digest.
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IMHO rooting should be done with a specific need, e.g. wanting to use Magisk or so. At the moment I have no such need. That's why I - for the moment - only did the step of unlocking my V30.
This is one of the symptoms that let me get to the conclusion that some more structure would be helpful. That thread you mentioned above links to two other threads, one for the T-Mobile variant, one for all other variants. The latter one again has instructions for many V30 device types. IMHO multiple sticky threads with partially outdated or perhaps even contradictory content are not really helpful. And IMHO very long thread postings that want to combine a couple of V30 variants with all of their special needs may be hard to understand and may lead to problems when people don't understand them correctly and then apply instructions that are not correct for their device. Don't get me wrong: I'm glad the WTF thread exists, I just found it hard to digest.
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The two sticky threads I wrote are current. The thread you reference was before WTF was discovered and ONLY apply to a couple variants who are eligible for "official" LG bootloader unlock only. Don't try to root with that, especially on Pie. It's outdated, incomplete with the files you need to flash.
By using official LG code you also waived your warranty.
(I did that with one of my phones, the 64GB Open Market US998 -- only US998 variant eligible. The Open Market US998 V30+ and V30S not eligible, nor the U.S. Cellular V30 and V30+. Of the FIVE US998 variants, only ONE is eligible and it has the smallest internal memory.)
WTF is the preferred method and everyone (except T-Mobile H932) has used it for the past 1.5 years.
There's like 20 different V30/V30+/V30S) variants and except for T-Mobile H932, they can ALL use the WTF exploit -- where you don't need LG permission to own your phone. The T-Mobile H932 root thread (@runningnsk3d) is also current.
I'll always be rooted if I can. I want to "own" my phone, not the OEM/carrier.
By unlocking your bootloader and NOT rooting yet (so you can hide bootloader unlock status in Magisk Hide), your phone will fail Safety Net check. That may not be important to you, but depends on the banking or gaming apps you use...
Now that your phone is bootloader unlocked, you can go to the WTF instructions and skip down to the TWRP Installation and Root section to start from there.
Good to know, thanks
I knew about the banking side effects of rooting (not being able to use Google pay and such) I hadn't thought about the effect on games
As someone new to the forum I get what Eschelion is saying, there is outdated and contradictory information, the WTF thread alone has over 3,500 posts and links or stickies to other threads it's a lot to try and keep straight
Not saying someone needs to fix it or do anything about, someone already spent the time and energy figuring all this out and sharing the information
(I'm thankful for that and those that choose to help the people with questions) it would be nice if finding the information (that each person in particular) was looking for was simpler, that would be great but with the variety of hardware and software and how quickly information becomes outdated or incorrect it's unrealistic to ask for more
Look at the sheer number of threads on this forum already, it's mind boggling to think of the amount of hours that have been put in.
If another thread was created to walk you through from start to finish for the V30 (excluding the 1-off T-Mobile) that would be great (really it would I'm one of the people they would greatly benefit from that [emoji28]) Chazzz seems to be the in house specialist on the LGV30 (only one who's responded to V30 questions at least) maybe Eschelion or myself can create and help maintain such a thread after we learn what we're doing, with the admins permission sense that seems close if not directly redundant thread (depending on your point of view)
I'd be happy to help with such a thread once I know what I'm doing of course lol
rippin209 said:
I knew about the banking side effects of rooting (not being able to use Google pay and such) I hadn't thought about the effect on games
As someone new to the forum I get what Eschelion is saying, there is outdated and contradictory information, the WTF thread alone has over 3,500 posts and links or stickies to other threads it's a lot to try and keep straight
Not saying someone needs to fix it or do anything about, someone already spent the time and energy figuring all this out and sharing the information
(I'm thankful for that and those that choose to help the people with questions) it would be nice if finding the information (that each person in particular) was looking for was simpler, that would be great but with the variety of hardware and software and how quickly information becomes outdated or incorrect it's unrealistic to ask for more
Look at the sheer number of threads on this forum already, it's mind boggling to think of the amount of hours that have been put in.
If another thread was created to walk you through from start to finish for the V30 (excluding the 1-off T-Mobile) that would be great (really it would I'm one of the people they would greatly benefit from that [emoji28]) Chazzz seems to be the in house specialist on the LGV30 (only one who's responded to V30 questions at least) maybe Eschelion or myself can create and help maintain such a thread after we learn what we're doing, with the admins permission sense that seems close if not directly redundant thread (depending on your point of view)
I'd be happy to help with such a thread once I know what I'm doing of course lol
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Just to clarify, there is NO contradictory nor outdated information in the WTF INSTRUCTIONS. It's been updated frequently. I had to rewrite a whole section to make it also work for Pie, besides adding Pie compatible files you need to flash.
And the WTF Instructions are really all you need. (Except for T-Mobile H932). Yeah, we have no control over other posts from a year ago, etc. But especially more recent ones can be good information resource -- even if just to convince people they don't need to ask the same questions again and again.
If you READ the WTF instructions you will successfully unlock bootloader and root your phone. This includes the dozen Troubleshooting Tips everyone likes to ignore.
If I ever started a new WTF instructions thread, I would copy and paste exactly what I have now as post #1. or at least post #2... And move the intro part to be post #1.
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Just to clarify, there is NO contradictory nor outdated information in the WTF INSTRUCTIONS. It's been updated frequently. I had to rewrite a whole section to make it also work for Pie, besides adding Pie compatible files you need to flash.
And the WTF Instructions are really all you need. (Except for T-Mobile H932). But ee have no control over other posts a year ago, etc. But especially more recent ones can be good information resource -- even if just to convince people they don't need to ask the same questions again and again.
But if you READ the WTF instructions you will successfully unlock bootloader and root your phone. This includes the dozen Troubleshooting Tips everyone likes to ignore.
If I ever started a new WTF instructions thread, I would copy and paste exactly what I have now as post #1. or at least post #2... And move the intro part to be post #1.
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Just goes to show how little I know
I must game gotten my threads mixed up because I thought the need to get an LG account was still written in one of the original posts (to get your phones .bin number) but I've read in more recent posts that's no longer necessary, I was also under the impression that pie want working, at least not well on the V30 yet, waiting on possible DNZ files or something.
I meant no disrespect to the work you've done and didn't mean to write or spread misinformation.
I'm definitely going to read more and stick to asking questions for now
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Just goes to show how little I know
I must game gotten my threads mixed up because I thought the need to get an LG account was still written in one of the original posts (to get your phones .bin number) but I've read in more recent posts that's no longer necessary, I was also under the impression that pie want working, at least not well on the V30 yet, waiting on possible DNZ files or something.
I meant no disrespect to the work you've done and didn't mean to write or spread misinformation.
I'm definitely going to read more and stick to asking questions for now
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You are probably thinking of the outdated "Wotta" Instructions I told this thread creator not to use, which was ever ONLY for those very few variants that are eligible for LG bootloader unlock code.
I have no control over that thread. Once WTF was discovered (May 2018) it superseded those instructions. They were for specific purpose (official bootloader unlock only). In my WTF instructions, I do say to go thank Wotta because I give him credit for screenshots I used and his Instructions were well written for the intended purpose.
But those Wotta instructions are ONLY for bootloader unlocking with official LG code, and even then not for current rooting/TWRP installation.
The Root Sticky Guide I wrote points people either to WTF exploit instructions (every variant except T-Mobile H932 ) or the T-Mobile H932 Root thread. (T-Mobile root was created by @runningnak3d in August 2018.)
Between the two methods, ALL V30 variants are covered.
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
This is the root sticky thread I was talking about. Start with Post #1. That's the thread everyone should read and follow. It explains about unlocking bootloader, rooting, and custom roms for ALL variants.
ChazzMatt said:
You are probably thinking of the outdated Instructions I told this thread creator not to use, which was ever ONLY for those very few variants that were eligible for LG bootloader unlock code.
I have no control over that thread. Once WTF was discovered (May 2018) it superceded those instructions.
The Root Sticky Guide points people either to WTF exploit (every variant except T-Mobile H932 ) or the T-Mobile H932 Root thread. (T-Mobile root was created by @ruuningnak3d in August 2018.)
Between the two ALL V30 variants are covered.
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
This is the root sticky thread I was talking about. Start with Post #1. That's the thread everyone should read and follow. It explains about unlocking bootloader, rooting, and custom roms for ALL variants.
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Thanks Chazz and thanks for clarifying
Ecthelion3 said:
Hi,
for a couple of weeks now I am regularly visiting this forum in order to see what's going on around the LG v30. What I found hard in the beginning was to understand which information e.g. in the WTF thread really applies to my device, because oftentimes postings need to differentiate between instructions for H930, H932, H998 etc. And I also have often seen people installing a ROM meant for only one or a few of the v30 version on another v30 variant, e.g. ROMs for only H930 getting installed on H932 or so, where it is not working. And even more often I have seen the question which v30 variant people are using when someone else is posting questions about problems on his/her device here. Therefore I wonder whether it might make sense to include separate boards for variants of the v30, like it was done for e.g. the LG G6 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6. In that forum the vast majority of the threads are about the main variant (H870 for the G6) while sub-forums exist for the T-Mobile, the Verizon and other variants of the LG G6. While I was active in that board I have much less seen confusion about instructions for one G6 variant getting applied on another variant (which of course may also be for different reasons than the board structure). So it perhaps could also be helpful for the v30 forum.
Is that a good idea?
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It appears as though you have what you need now, so I'm going to close this thread as this section is intended for discussing the LG V30, not the structure of XDA.
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