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I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
Bboy_LeoGun said:
I just got my Samsung Galaxy s6 edge white 32gb last night and I noticed that is over heating than it should be. I'm using it for Web browser and texting nothing that should cause to heat up. I also updated to the latest version.
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Actually if it was overheating then the phone would automatically shut down to prevent damage, but yes the phone does get hot rather quickly. But I've had glass and aluminum phones before and they always get hot fast since metal retains heat.
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
yes it does get hot once in every 3-4 days & when I say it means really hot..
s6 edge overheating
How can we fix this overheating issue?
quis5550 said:
How can we fix this overheating issue?
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Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
SuperSport said:
Have you tried Smart Switch as mentioned two posts up?
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Smart switch is not working for everyone. Hit or a miss thing.
My phone heats up to 44 C
What is the Warning Level is it safe till 45 or 50 Celsius ?
It happens when
1) On use of Google Maps while driving
2) Charging
3) When i use Sandisk OTG, to the extent that it stop the Transfer & freezes
4) Even if i Record Videos sometimes
5) While wireless charging
This is really bad Never had such a Issue
I agree with some of the sentiments here that the device can seemingly get pretty warm - especially when I tweaking things or using apps that use a lot of CPU or using the camera for too long. But I do believe a lot of it is related to the aluminum/glass case - I believe Samsung is basically taking advantage of the case as a though it were a heatsink - releasing all the heat into your hand/pocket/air.
This is truly the first phone i've had that manages to stay under 100° F even when cpu frequency is locked to the maximum and I'm playing very gpu-intensive games, provided that i'm not charging the battery and the phone is not in an unusually warm environmnt like a hot car. I should mention that i'm rooted and lots of preloaded software has been removed. I would download some sort of process monitor and check it to see if there's a misbehaving app to blame if this is happening regularly.
SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
LoganAlexander said:
Hey,
I saw that you posted a solution when someone had problems with his S6 edge overheating. I've an S6 and I think I might have the same problem.
I was wondering if you could spare some time to help me. I posted my problem here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/help-s6-cpu-getting-hot-t3180011
I used Antatu benchmark and CPU temperature to test my phone and it got to 84.0 C twice, once when it was testing my CPU to it's fullest and once when it was testing game performance.
So I was wondering if you could run the test as well and tell me what temperature you got so I can compare. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet but I will tomorrow.
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For the record, mine just hit 85C while running AnTuTu. As far as daily use, it made a world of difference on my phone when I flashed the stock firmware the first time. The phone was terribly hot in my pocket when I was not doing anything, and it was SUPER laggy when I was. Not something I expected from this phone. After the flash, it was a Beast and ran MUCH cooler. It would get warm still when doing intensive tasks, but that would be expected from an Octa-core phone in my opinion. It does not get uncomfortably hot anymore, like it used to though. I would imagine it went WAY above 85C when it got hot before, because it was actually hard to hold at times.
If you have not flashed it since new, I would highly recommend it. I know it's a pain, but it's a one time thing that you never have to do again, and the benefit MIGHT be large. No guarantees, as you may not have the same issue, but I've received a lot of reports from people who have done it and they say it breathed new life into their phones. For me personally, it was DEFINITELY not a placebo affect. It was night and day.
With all that said, I've got my S6 Edge up for sale right now as I've moved to Apple for a little while. I continually jump around, and T-Mobile offered the iPhone 6 for $15/mo and I can trade it in 3 times in the next 18 months for free and keep paying $15/mo for the newest phone. I'm looking forward to seeing the difference in the iPhone 6s. If it sucks, I'll be trading it in shortly for another Android phone.
PS: AnTuTu final score: 69314!!!! Wow!!!
One more thing. To eliminate ALL lag and slowdown, I replaced the Samsung Launcher with the Google Launcher. What a difference that alone makes! Seriously, try that one thing. It's huge. The Samsung Launcher has some issue somewhere that they still need to address.
SuperSport said:
Mine ran a lot hotter than a normal glass and metal phone, and it was laggy/jerky. I flashed the stock firmware to it, and now it's smooth and cool.
Here's How:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...p/flash-stock-firmware-using-samsung-t3079176
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I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
venkatgaddam said:
I did not buy my S6 edge on contract with any service provider. I have all the same problems though. Will this solution work for me?
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It should. As long as Smart Switch can recognize your phone model and download the Correct Firmware, the Flash WILL help the Heating and Lagging problem. If your phone is not recognized, then Smart Switch will not do anything. It's worth a try.
For me it happens especially when im playing arround with that samsung theme store build in app. I don't know why that app needs so much power to have that effect on the phone but for sure its something samsung needs to look at.
For sure they need to re-design that app from the scratch. Its like the "my first homepage" of theme apps.
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
Thanks, seems to help a bit, but it's right on the fine line between actually helping and just a placebo.
I mean, some really visually simple games (Smash Hit) shouldn't run with such low fps, especially not when considering the Nexus 5 ran it perfect.
What about the rest of the UI?
I suspect that some of the problems I'm having with SwiftKey are software related (might not be optimized for G4 yet?), since I'm noticing some other unrelated performance bugs in it; emailed that to them.
I got H815L myself and it's pretty good.
What's your Antutu score?
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
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Jonathan-H said:
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Not missing anything. Is called lg g4.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
oh thanks bro.
most helpful reply of the week.
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Yeah, I pretty much know most of the basics of all the advanced tweaking, but since I have H815L the bootloader is locked, so rooting it is a bit pain in the ass.
Someday next week I'll just factory reset it and check again.
Thanks bud!
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
NuclearBastard said:
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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Root it and bump up lower clock speed on big/little cores with kernel audiutor...it will reduce lag and actually save battery as small processes cause it to jump around a lot on factory settings...short of doing this idk...
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu,
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It means his device is running cooler than yours. He mentioned some tweaks to keep heat down.
There is also the CTT mod (in development)but it requires root.
most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
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Actually i just checked 3 different reviews and the avg antutue score for the G4 is 49k. if you run antutu back to back 3-4 times it will drop to 44k. If it wont rise above 45k then it indicates a heating device with throttling.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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How is your battery life in general sot/run time ?
can you try playing your games in a low light environment. So your brightness will be much lower. Do you notice any difference ?
I've had the phone for a total of about 4 days now, SOT seems about 3-4 hours, better than my N5 so I'm happy so far.
Tried gaming with low light / cold environments, doesn't seem to change anything.
Not sure about the throttling, due to the fact that the device is actually pretty cold... not sensing any extreme heat (my N5 was way hotter).
After that factory reset I get about 48k on Antutu, and I actually tried two different "heavy" games (NOVA3 and Asphalt 8) and they run OK...
I genuinely have no idea what's the problem, so instead of rooting and tweaking stuff that seem to not have to be tweaked for others, I'll just wait till I get back home and compare the gaming performance with friends' devices.
If something goes wrong - warranty it is.
Man, I feel you! Been dealing with laggy UI and cursing my choice of purchase since day one. Anyways..
For games - have you disabled 'Game Optimzer' option from 'Battery & Power Saving'?
For laggy UI - Swiftkey is laggy as ****. So try Fleksy, it's a LOT smoother, I barely notice any lag (although it does hiccup once in a while...). As for general performance, you have to accept that some animations will be choppy - that's just how LG UI works, there is no work around. For me the phone was chugging a lot before I uninstalled Inbox by Gmail, after that the phone regained it's speed and it's pretty damn smooth now. It still stutters here and there but ...what to do. Also try delobating it and removing any unnecessary apps and services (you don't need to root for this).
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Dude i has the g4 H815L and it is works fine but maybe it becouse the root.
I has the device for few months with stock version of lg and my g4 works very good and when i play games like Goat Simulator he got hot if not very hot but if your device don't get hot becouse of games so for sure you won't get high preformance.
Plus my bettery works fine and my phone can work perfectly and smothly with smart watch and survive one day with out any problames.
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
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Every CPU (SoC) is unique. Remember, even two identical CPUs can deliver different benchmark results, thus have different real world performance. Unless there's a software issue you haven't found out about yet, it's also likely that you just got a bad one.
NuclearBastard said:
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Don't even hesitate. You paid for it hard earned money under the condition that it works as stated and advertised by LG. Now, as you told us, it does not. See my point?
Guys I need help with my G4, situation with gaming is kinda unbelievable... I'm running android 6.0, and most games can't hit over 20fps mark, practically gaming it's more of frustration than fun
Examples:
Dragons rise of berk - 15-16 fps
Real Racing 3 - 20-21 fps
Jurasic World - 18-19fps
FF lagacy - 25-26fps
And things gets more interesting, I have also G2 that makes on average 30% better fps on the same games. Did an Antutu test, G4 is way better than the same G2, huge difference in 3d test.
Checked the net for the issue and found on this site folks that have it but hadn't have in with the Lollipop before that. Please give me some pointers for a future actions, is it wise to try go back to 5.1 or maybe wait for the next update? Or anything at all, I'm open to all ideas as long as they don't cost me my warranty (these LGs are not the most durable devices out there...).
Thanks!
I swear its d3vice to d3vice. I use ps1 and other emulators all the time ive never really watched the frame rates but never noticed lag. I got a gear vr ive been doin a bunch of games on it and it runs killer.
But im on lolipop heavly debloated bare core system.
Stock rom is riddled with throttling while gaming, I did notice games like hearthstone and minecraft getting unplayable after 20 minutes or so, fix is the way of going custom kernel and disabling stock thermal settings, soc on our phone doesn't heat up as much as 810 anyways (also 1440p much more demanding than 1080p take that in to consideration as well)
Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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wich kernel you use on G2? i wish there was a dorimanx for G4..
3.10.84 and the soft is V20d-EUR-XX. I'm definitely not a gamer, but can't accept having a G4 that performs like a 80$ lenovo neither... Honestly I was thinking of switching to Samsung, but 20min of reading and I was left with the feeling that this action would just gain me changing one problem with another ones. At lest here I have only that FPS issue...and besides it I like the phone and would strongly prefer not to switch with another brand.
The most irritating thing is that the phone has no signs of hardware problems. On the Gamebench site there's plenty of test done with the stock 5.1 rom - https://www.gamebench.net/en/node/117
As you can see the same games do on average 30fps, witch is as it should be.
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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have you tried disabling the LOGD.?
vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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The g3 was a good one
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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yes and no..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/finally-disable-logd-process-root-stock-t3343553
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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There is a setting that you can toggle in Settings > Battery & power saving, and then turn off Game optimizer. Don't know if it would help, but it's worth a shot.
vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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I've mentioned it a few times in previous posts, I think the gaming performance on this device is just simply horrendous.
vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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Like i said i play ps1 and loads of games on mine. never notice any lag. I just modded my gear vr to work on my g4 and all the vr apps and games run surprisingly very well. Ive never been one to do benchmarks. Look and feel is more important than numbers to me. Ive seen phones get low benchmarks and game really well.
Im on lolipop by the way
Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Try Sim City BuildIt out on your phone and follow the tutorial right through to Dans City and see how that runs, its pretty poor on mine.
Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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When I play 3d scenes in Antutu they are 1080p, and G4 plays them a LOT smother than G2. So I guess that might solve the problem, 2k is absolutely unnecessary for gaming purposes on this small screen.
Also I'm not sure that the acctual intensity of the game is the main reason, thing looks more like game to game or optimizing issues.
Hey!
So I've recently bought an S20 from T-Mobile. It's a Hungarian model (980F). I'm facing some weird behavior here.
The issue:
In every game I play, from simple 2D connect-three and idle games, to intense things like Asphalt 9, what happens is that for a random amount of time (i've seen everything from 1 second to 10 minutes) the framerate just tanks. And I'm not talking about the Exynos performance fiasco here. This happens regardless of how long I use the phone or how hot it gets.
Some concrete examples:
- So, the cold phone can achieve a relatively stable 60 fps in Asphalt 9. After prolonged gaming, when the phone reaches a temp equilibrium, framerates settle at around 45 fps. That's fine for me, not the topic of this thread. But, sometimes I play for hours, and I keep this steady 45-ish framerate, other times I just pick up the phone, completely cold, and the second I start up the game, even the menu lags, at precisely 20 fps (I measure this with PerfZ). After some time passes, everything is back to normal, 60 fps. Then, again, randomly 20, then back to 60 again.
- I play Adventure Communist a lot (a simple idle button clicker game, nothing graphically intensive) and well as you can imagine, it's fine at 60. But sometimes this game also drops to exactly 20 fps for some random time, then back to normal.
- Subway Surfers runs at 120 stable. This game does not drop to 20, it drops to more like 40ish something (I have not measured an exact number here, just going by feeling).
- As I've said, this all happens regardless of heat. What I've also found is that GPU usage drops down significantly when this happens, as if something artificially limited the game for the time being (like something put an FPS cap on it).
- Interestingly, some games are unaffacted: PUBG Mobile, for example, heats the phone up like hell. After a good 30-40 minutes the framerate drops to well below the cap, but I've never had the issue during any session. The phone just throttles normally, but that's it. Games originally limited to 30 fps also don't experience this (or at least I haven't noticed). Forza Street also stresses the hardware pretty well, that game also drops from 60 to 50 something fps, but never had this weird back and forth switch between 20 and 60 fps. Strange.
What I've tried:
- Changing brightness
- Changing volume
- Through game booster, changing the preferred performance levels
- Downloading game booster plus and messing with it
- Turning on high performance mode in device care
- Disabling adaptive battery, turning off battery optimizations
- Disabling everything network related
- Factory resetting
- I went to a Samsung store, told the technician everything, showed him a vid, he said they've never seen anything like this, if I wanted I could leave the phone there for a software checkup... well... I didn't
- there might have been more things i've tried i cant remember right now, i've tried a lot of things, believe me...
Online research results:
So obviously, where do people go with these problems, of course, Reddit. Now, I haven't found anything about this when I tried searching for gaming related issues, but I've found a thread where a dude complains about his Ultra scrolling at lowered framerates sometimes (which by the way also happens to me, I just chose to ignore it for some reason). In this thread, I've found another dude, who posted a video he made about games, with the exact same issue that I have! So at least 1 other guy has this in the world... And basically this is it. Haven't been able to find anything useful besides this, every other post is just about the Exynos chip being inferior and things like that. I have some videos of it, but my account is fresh so I can't post any links. Just google "S20 Ultra scroll stutter", and the first Reddit post with the same name is what I'm talking about. It's a short thread. You'll find the comment.
I'm pretty sure this is unrelated to the whole "Exynos is trash" topic, as it doesn't depend on temperatures. Also, the fact that this happens in a lot of games, but not in others leads me to believe there might be some system level/software issue here. Also, GPU usage drops when it happens (as I said, like something capped it), this suggests to me the same, some software-level limitation.
Has any of you heard of or encountered this before? Do you have any other ideas what might cause this, and how to fix it?
Thanks for your help.
Didnt experience any of these isuue tho... have you updated the game opt. Service via galaxy store?
andre tan said:
Didnt experience any of these isuue tho... have you updated the game opt. Service via galaxy store?
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Yes, everything is up to date.
Samsung ****ed every exynos user. It's simple as that. Also, no fix, EVER. If you can return it DO IT. No one is going to do anything about it. Everyday I see people starting threads on xda or reddit complaining but nothing is happening. We in Europe have laws that protect us against this kind of ****ery but again no one is ready to fight Samsung. If this continues 80% of forums post will end up like this one.
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Samsung ****ed every exynos user. It's simple as that. Also, no fix, EVER. If you can return it DO IT. No one is going to do anything about it. Everyday I see people starting threads on xda or reddit complaining but nothing is happening. We in Europe have laws that protect us against this kind of ****ery but again no one is ready to fight Samsung. If this continues 80% of forums post will end up like this one.
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My issue is not related to temperature and most of the problems that come with the Exynos chip are due to it running hotter and throttling. I don't think this is it.
I have the exact same issue you described with my S20. Searched but haven't found any solution either. Any information on this would be nice.
I do not own an S20 Exynos, I have the Snapdragon variant, but with my S10+ Exynos, I swear that after the Android 10 update I had started to experience the same issue. Even Clash Royale dropped for no reason to 20fps, not to mention Asphalt 9. It would sometimes go away after a reboot, other times not. Guess all you can do is wait for the Android 11 update, unless samsung issues some game optimizing service update that fixes this issue.
These micro lags makes the phones processor feel like it's from 2018, can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters, same with light gaming, I don't think this processer can handle to much?
If the next update doesn't fix these issues then I don't think they will be fixed?
I haven't had this problem in the last two months I've been using the phone. My wife hasn't complained about her games - I generally don't game very much.
Have never once felt a jitter or lag.....not once. For me this phone has been a pleasure to use. I rooted right out of the box and have since done an update and switched to another rom without a hitch really. except one hiccup i was having with a bootloop. Which proved to be me not disabling mods before the flash. I absolutely love this phone. I am not seeing any of the issues that people are reporting. I also believe that a LOT of reports are bogus. ( Not saying that this is the case here).
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
I've noticed lag when typing. I do use gboard as most of the people do. I do type with two languages activated. Every now and then the phone lags for about a second.
I thought google had already acknowledge that the phone does lag when the battery percentage drops.
Something about accessibility and animations as far as I remember.
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
Very smooth experience for me for gaming and all my everyday tasks.
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Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
clipdawg05 said:
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
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Yeah cod mobile is a jittery mess here on November software I can't play it all can't get used to it, I've ditched it for now and playing on my OP 8 Pro buttery smooth on 8 Pro.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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I think some people are in denial about this handset to be honest, Ok be thing I have learned over the years never trust the usual YouTubers they know who they are and are scripted.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
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That's what it's doing here it's like the CPU or GPU is asleep then all of a sudden wakes up after It's too late lol
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I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
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That is another possibility and another reason why I hate Google phones they don't even have refresh rate locks just a "Smooth" option but still jitters.
Just found another bug lol try scrolling fast in opposite directions in messages it just freezes and gets confused and sits there like it can't understand fast opposite direction of scrolling lol, Amazing how these devices get released in these states really.
Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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I no and people dis oneui, Samsung have came such a long way to be honest, at least they're phones are smooth and the extra features that's on oneui is what the consumers asked for, even with all the added features it doesn't hinder battery life, yah can't even screen cast on this phone without a chrome cast, people say about a clean stock software but but what's the point, not like as if it's better battery and performance, I get better performance and battery out of my S20 Fe 5g
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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They definitely didn't "brick" from the update. Do you know what "brick" means?
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can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters
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If a scrollable list is implemented as a scrollview, data will be loaded into it dynamically, AS you scroll through it. Depending on the speed and latency of the data source (for example, loading over the network), and the complexity of generating each element, you may occasionally scroll beyond the loaded data, requiring an interruption that you might perceive as a "lag" or "jitter".
So really there can be two causes that do NOT imply a CPU performance issue; data source, and bad code. A competent programmer can load data from the network in a more effective manner and ensure that processing overhead is minimized, thus reducing the negative effects.
Unfortunately, with mobile, like web, competent programmers are like a drop of water in the ocean.