Best way to backup data before rooting - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hi guys! What is the best way to backup as much data as possible before rooting? I'm coming from an iPhone but prior to it I was on Android so I'm a little rusty. I'm aware of TiBu backups but if I recall correctly you need root to get a full backup. What I'm doing now is backing up everything through Google Drive backups and Google Photos. Is there an app that can maybe batch backup/restore apks along with their data without root? I'd like to keep as much data as possible like app data and MMS before I wipe and root.
One more thing, I'm currently on the 8.1 official firmware but came from the DP2 OTA. If I were to unenroll from the beta program, will it force a wipe? I know it forces a wipe when unenrolling and going down to the 8.0 firmware but since it's on the same version of Android, will it still require a wipe?
Thanks in advance for any help.

I hope someone has a better one. But one that is clunky but works without root is Helium by clockworkmod. Need a PC since you run a program on the PC as part of the process. Not all apps will backup with it, but it does lots of apps. I can pretty much do all the apps I need to do that aren't already backed up by Google backup. Most of the apps that won't allow backup will be financial ones and others that you just log back into your account, and you're back in business that way.
You download the Helium app from the playstore. When you run the app, it'll tell you to connect to a PC. And it'll show you a link to download a program for the PC. The program on the PC is what allows the app on the phone to do backups. I don't know if ADB or Android tools have to also be installed, but I think it stands alone. You have to run the PC program every time to do backups. After the first time, you just start the program, plug the phone to the PC and start the app, or any change in order of those steps you want.
The clunky part for me is the password. You have to set a password for the phone since the app can't access the data without the password. So it can't be a pattern lock or pin.
That's no big deals since you only need to do this when backing up so can just temporarily change it, and is not the clunky part.
Here's the clunky part. When you go to backup, It makes no difference whether you've saved the password or not. When you get to the password field It'll autofill the password (with any characters saved or not) in addition to anything you started filling and the start backing up. Then may finally say backup failed. If you wait enough time it will not auto enter stuff, then you can manually enter the password. And it'll backup just fine. But it will show a prompt that the device is protected so enter the password. So you enter it all over again. Except this time it has some data to autofill in. So if you want to select another app to backup, it'll seem to backup better. Except it often will give an error.
For me, the best approach seems to be don't save the password in the app. Wait for a few seconds to make sure it isn't going to try to auto-enter. Manually enter the password. When it prompts the second time, just cancel instead of entering anything.
And after I just typed all that, I kept getting backup failed trying to do a backup. I finally managed to do it, but it is like that every time I try. some days it just works first time. Some days it takes trying different things. Once it a while it is better to save the password.
Anyway, the backups are good. Oh, after you've selected the apps/data to backup. Go to the bottom and kinda pull up below the green line and it'll show a check box to just save the data and not the app apk if you want a smaller size backup. I think it is faster just saving the app with it if you are moving or backing up to restore. Otherwise you have to wait for the download and install from the playstore.
The backups end up in their own folder in a folder named Carbon.

lacaprjc said:
Hi guys! What is the best way to backup as much data as possible before rooting? I'm coming from an iPhone but prior to it I was on Android so I'm a little rusty. I'm aware of TiBu backups but if I recall correctly you need root to get a full backup. What I'm doing now is backing up everything through Google Drive backups and Google Photos. Is there an app that can maybe batch backup/restore apks along with their data without root? I'd like to keep as much data as possible like app data and MMS before I wipe and root.
One more thing, I'm currently on the 8.1 official firmware but came from the DP2 OTA. If I were to unenroll from the beta program, will it force a wipe? I know it forces a wipe when unenrolling and going down to the 8.0 firmware but since it's on the same version of Android, will it still require a wipe?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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learn: adb backup
when unenrolling from the beta, and you are already on current stable, it will not wipe, nor update.

Voicebox said:
I hope someone has a better one. But one that is clunky but works without root is Helium by clockworkmod. Need a PC since you run a program on the PC as part of the process. Not all apps will backup with it, but it does lots of apps. I can pretty much do all the apps I need to do that aren't already backed up by Google backup. Most of the apps that won't allow backup will be financial ones and others that you just log back into your account, and you're back in business that way.
You download the Helium app from the playstore. When you run the app, it'll tell you to connect to a PC. And it'll show you a link to download a program for the PC. The program on the PC is what allows the app on the phone to do backups. I don't know if ADB or Android tools have to also be installed, but I think it stands alone. You have to run the PC program every time to do backups. After the first time, you just start the program, plug the phone to the PC and start the app, or any change in order of those steps you want.
The clunky part for me is the password. You have to set a password for the phone since the app can't access the data without the password. So it can't be a pattern lock or pin.
That's no big deals since you only need to do this when backing up so can just temporarily change it, and is not the clunky part.
Here's the clunky part. When you go to backup, It makes no difference whether you've saved the password or not. When you get to the password field It'll autofill the password (with any characters saved or not) in addition to anything you started filling and the start backing up. Then may finally say backup failed. If you wait enough time it will not auto enter stuff, then you can manually enter the password. And it'll backup just fine. But it will show a prompt that the device is protected so enter the password. So you enter it all over again. Except this time it has some data to autofill in. So if you want to select another app to backup, it'll seem to backup better. Except it often will give an error.
For me, the best approach seems to be don't save the password in the app. Wait for a few seconds to make sure it isn't going to try to auto-enter. Manually enter the password. When it prompts the second time, just cancel instead of entering anything.
And after I just typed all that, I kept getting backup failed trying to do a backup. I finally managed to do it, but it is like that every time I try. some days it just works first time. Some days it takes trying different things. Once it a while it is better to save the password.
Anyway, the backups are good. Oh, after you've selected the apps/data to backup. Go to the bottom and kinda pull up below the green line and it'll show a check box to just save the data and not the app apk if you want a smaller size backup. I think it is faster just saving the app with it if you are moving or backing up to restore. Otherwise you have to wait for the download and install from the playstore.
The backups end up in their own folder in a folder named Carbon.
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Thanks for the help! I'm gonna try this method now and let you know if all is well.

lacaprjc said:
Hi guys! What is the best way to backup as much data as possible before rooting?
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Sounds like you've done all you can... except for unlocking the phone as soon as you got it. Just make sure you use both separate unlock commands and get unlock and unlock_critical done properly. I think you'll find the phone will be pretty much back where you left it. Just get on with it ffs! Not a big deal.

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migrating from one EVO to a NEW Evo

well long story short... unrelated to anything herein... i have two EVO phones. one is a replacement phone for the current active phone. Sprint sent it to me, cause they couldn't figure out why Google's market wouldn't download apps to my phone. (I solved that problem on my own) but in the mean time i had this replacement phone, so I decided to test things out...
I have fully rooted the test phone, and I am using DamageControl v3.2.3. I installed apps on this phone over wifi.. and started to think that now i need to move my data over from the current active phone.
I have titanium backup paid version. On the test phone, i have backed up the phone going through the root and unlocking of NAND process. Pretty cool application.
I also have "lookout" installed on the active phone, and it is current.
My question is, best i can tell much of the application data seems to be on the SDRAM card. Is that not the case? what data is actually lost during a root proces or NAND unlocking process?
Since Titanium backup requires root access I really can't back up the current phone using that application. I have some backup with the "lookout" application. But i was wondering when the device gets flashed... what exactly is getting writen over.
i see a folder called Mail on the SD card... it is about 50mb... is that where my mail messages are from my different POP3 accounts? on the test phone, all of the mail account settings are not there obviously... but if i add the email accounts will it read the mail from the SDcard created using the other phone?
here is the data I like to migrate over from the rootless phone to the rooted phone.
1. mail messages from about 12 mail accounts
2. Mail account settings
3. layout of the different Sense walls (or whatever they are called) ..you know the faces with all of the icons you see when you look at the phone (there are 7)
4. phone call history
5. SMS messages and history
6. application settings
7. Browser bookmarks (and settings)
i can see my pictures and video are located on my sdram card, but not sure about the above items....
can you help? I am a skilled IT network pro, but not too skilled in the phone's unix like workings... can you help?
There are probably several ways you can do this, but I think it will be easier to accomplish this if you root your rootless phone. Once that phone is rooted you can use titanium or make a nandroid back up and restore on the phone that already has root. Both nandroid backup and titanium backups are saved on the SD card. If rooting is not an option your going to have to look for an app that can make backups without root. There might be one out there but I dont know of any.
it is not clear to me, what exactly is lost when I root. There are warnings that states:
"wipe all of your data so brace for that. backup or what not"
doesn't that mean I will loose user data in step 1 of the toastcfh process before i am able to install (or run) titanium backup?
the warning is not really clear to me exactly what is going on....
I am not against rooting, the rootless phone. Do think Sprint would care if I send them a rooted phone I suppose i could de-root, the rooted phone. I remember seeing somebody having a process for that... not sure.
need some help clearing up some of this... thanks!

Any way to transfer game save data to Nexus without rooting?

I have a bunch of games from my old Thunderbolt that I had in progress, and it'd be nice to continue on instead of having to start all over. Previously, I had used MyBackupPro to backup save data on my Thunderbolt, and I had heard that MyBackupPro doesn't require root to backup and restore save data. But when I try to use it to restore the save data on my Nexus, it won't do it. It'll restore some APKs I had backed up, but not actual data.
Any other options that don't require rooting?
Why not just root it is easy and mybackup will work easily then
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Well, because I already have my phone all set up, and I don't want to have to redo the entire process again, considering getting it rooted will end up wiping the phone. That, and, the only real reason I'd want to root would be to back up data. I'm less interested in rooting my Nexus, than I was with my Thunderbolt; with the TB, I really wanted to ditch Sense, and get rid of bloat, but neither of those are a factor with the Nexus, so...
Any chance there will ever be a root method for the Nexus that doesn't wipe the phone? I waited a while to root my Thunderbolt, and by the time I did, Revolutionary was available, which didn't wipe anything.
mrw1215 said:
I have a bunch of games from my old Thunderbolt that I had in progress, and it'd be nice to continue on instead of having to start all over. Previously, I had used MyBackupPro to backup save data on my Thunderbolt, and I had heard that MyBackupPro doesn't require root to backup and restore save data. But when I try to use it to restore the save data on my Nexus, it won't do it. It'll restore some APKs I had backed up, but not actual data.
Any other options that don't require rooting?
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Have a look: https://plus.google.com/115995639636688350464/posts/b9ejZegfw8p
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Have a look: [/QUOTE]
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind, though I have no idea how to use ADB at all.
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Would anybody be able to post more thorough instructions that expand upon the two lines of code in the above link? Like I said, I have zero experience with using ADB, so I don't know how to even get that far.
I *think* I have the Android SDK already installed on my computer (as this past semester, I took a class on Android app development), but I don't know what to do with that.
As far as the link above goes, how does that work? Would I plug in both phones at the same time? Would I plug in the Thunderbolt first, do all the "backups" for the games, unplug the Thunderbolt, plug in the Nexus, and do all the "restores"? Or what?
He said you can do adb backup -all and adb restore -all.
But yes, steps:
1) connect TB, adb backup -all
2) connect GN, adb restore -all
I'm bored enough to create a .bat script for you if necessary. I can't test it though, as I'm at work.
But what would "backup -all"/ "restore -all" mean? I just want the save data from certain games backed up and restored, I don't want every single file, APK, and whatnot, transferred over.
Anyway, I plugged in my Thunderbolt earlier, and entered "adb devices" to make sure it saw the device (it did), but when I ran the backup code named in the above link (as World of Goo is one of the games I want to transfer progress in, so I'd figure I could test it out that way), it gave me some error about the backup not being found.
Okay, so, I'm trying again to do this ADB thing, and I'm still not getting it. Even when I plug in my Thunderbolt, and do adb backup -all, the response I get is "adb: unable to open file ./backup.ab". What does that mean? Are there ADB commands I'm supposed to run before attempting to backup/ restore, or can I just plug in, open a command prompt, and type "adb backup -all", or, preferably, whatever the line is to backup specific game save data?

Few questions on using Titanium back up on GNEX.

I've used Titanium to do my back-ups on my old Galaxy Vibrant, so I have a general understanding of how it works. My question is this though, when I did back-ups in the past, they were saved to the SD card (I think), but the GNEX doesn't have an SD card. So if I do a back-up, won't the back-up I just made get erased when I wipe data before flashing a new ROM? Also, what about my pictures, will they get erased? I have hundreds of pictures on my phone, maybe even over 1000 TBH. I don't want to have to reload everything again. And last, does Titanium back-up your progress in games? I seem to remember that it does, but I don't remember for sure.
Any guides out there for doing Titanium back-ups on the Gnex? Why didn't those silly people just give us an sd card slot
ok even though it does not have a physically removable sd card it still does not get wiped when flashing roms and wiping the data cache partition. only if you do a factory data reset from the phone's settings. I've never needed to do that so dont worry i have 1000's of pics too. I'd back em up just in case on your laptop for safe measure though anyways. also when you backup th apps it does not save game progress unless you backup the app's data. then it should save preferences and progress and all that good stuff. Thank me if it helps!!
Ok, another thing I just thought of. After I flash the new ROM and enter my email, the phone is going to start automatically downloading all my apps, obviously I don't want to do that since I'm going to restore them with Titanium. How do I turn off the auto-downloading of apps?
After I flash the new ROM and enter my email, the phone is going to start automatically downloading all my apps
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No it won't. It only restores your apps if you decide to not turn off the "restore my apps and settings" option. It's on by default, simply turn it off after you've entered your Gmail account. It's the next or the second screen after you logged into your Gmail account.
Ok, now my phone doesn't want to mount when I connect it to my computer. It charges, it just won't mount. ftw....
Hotstuff5964 said:
Ok, now my phone doesn't want to mount when I connect it to my computer. It charges, it just won't mount. ftw....
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Not sure about the mount issue but I will tell you to definitely leave the auto restore on and let the market automatically download your apps after a wipe. You want to do this because it will automatically install the apps where as titanium will take forever and you have to manually tap install. Then once the apps are installed go to titanium and just backup so data only which is you game progress and preferences and such. I found this out the hard way lol
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In my experience, the restore and wipe cache (maybe wipe data too) only clean the system/ or /cache, and leave the sdcard/ untouched. So the data backup by Titanium back-ups should work rightly.
BTW, I have some problem about using Titanium back-ups. If I always want to keep the newest backup of both application and system data, are the any useful script?
Although there's a script could backup the new application that installed after last backup, but what about the new system app/data? Because sometimes I may have change ROM and it will add some new system app/data.
So far, I use the script that backup all the system/application data. But I wonder it may leave duplicate backup to some app, that's the condition I want to avoid.
Any idea?

[Q] How to achieve the most complete backup solution? (I have root)

Hi
So I don't really mind if I have to hook it up to the computer or anything, I just want a really complete backup solution. It should backup pretty much everything I have on my SD Card.
I already have Titanium Backup Pro and upuntil now I thought it was complete, but after completely wiping my SD Card in an attempt to install the latest RUU (which didn't work btw, but that's off topic...) and copying my Titanium Backup-stuff from a computer backup I realized it's really really incomplete. To be honest I'm not at all sure what it even is backing up... maybe my Titanium is just set wrong?
So what happened is this... like I said my SD Card was wiped but I had previously backed up Titanium to my Dropbox and pushed the whole folder to my phone after the wipe. However none of my settings for Nova Launcher were saved. My Nova settings back up was not saved. Passwords for Google, Facebook, Dropbox etc were not saved. Data from Swiftkey was not saved. Kakao Talk and SMS messaging history was not saved.
Like I said, I'm not sure what actually was saved...
I don't really mind, maybe even prefer, if I could use my computer to store these backups instead of the SD since I don't always have a lot of space left on my device.
(I think I got the filesystem thing and updating to the latest RUU didn't work - that's what landed me in this situation to begin with by the way.)
kaminix said:
Hi
So I don't really mind if I have to hook it up to the computer or anything, I just want a really complete backup solution. It should backup pretty much everything I have on my SD Card.
I already have Titanium Backup Pro and upuntil now I thought it was complete, but after completely wiping my SD Card in an attempt to install the latest RUU (which didn't work btw, but that's off topic...) and copying my Titanium Backup-stuff from a computer backup I realized it's really really incomplete. To be honest I'm not at all sure what it even is backing up... maybe my Titanium is just set wrong?
So what happened is this... like I said my SD Card was wiped but I had previously backed up Titanium to my Dropbox and pushed the whole folder to my phone after the wipe. However none of my settings for Nova Launcher were saved. My Nova settings back up was not saved. Passwords for Google, Facebook, Dropbox etc were not saved. Data from Swiftkey was not saved. Kakao Talk and SMS messaging history was not saved.
Like I said, I'm not sure what actually was saved...
I don't really mind, maybe even prefer, if I could use my computer to store these backups instead of the SD since I don't always have a lot of space left on my device.
(I think I got the filesystem thing and updating to the latest RUU didn't work - that's what landed me in this situation to begin with by the way.)
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Even if you pushed the whole folder back to your phone...did you actually restore the app/data using Titanium afterwards? Pushing the back-up folder back to your phone just means Titanium can access it. It doesn't restore everything unless you actually do so using Titanium.
Otherwise, making a nandroid backup using CWM recovery takes a perfect snapshot of your phone at that moment. So your texts will all be in place, passwords, settings etc. will all be as they are now. Of course, you can't really flash your nandroid over a new ROM just to restore app data, but it allows you to revert your phone back to its original state before flashing (like in your above scenario where you had a failed RUU installation)
poofish said:
Even if you pushed the whole folder back to your phone...did you actually restore the app/data using Titanium afterwards? Pushing the back-up folder back to your phone just means Titanium can access it. It doesn't restore everything unless you actually do so using Titanium.
Otherwise, making a nandroid backup using CWM recovery takes a perfect snapshot of your phone at that moment. So your texts will all be in place, passwords, settings etc. will all be as they are now. Of course, you can't really flash your nandroid over a new ROM just to restore app data, but it allows you to revert your phone back to its original state before flashing (like in your above scenario where you had a failed RUU installation)
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Yes I did restore. When I backup I do the full backup thingie in batch operations and when I restore I do the restore apps and system data + restore app data.
Yeah, I was thinking of Nandroid too but doesn't that just do non-SD card? I'm very new to Android but isn't most of the stuff I actually care about (app data and such) on the SD?
titanium doesn't restore system bits by default and google/facebook/dropbox is integrated into the OS.
You CAN force it to I believe but it WILL break things if you change your ROM at all.
IN my mind a small issue doesn't take long to sign back into those services as long as all your apps and data is intact thats all good.
If you have the filesystem thing I STRONGLY SUGGEST you up to 1.29.xyz.11 before you do any more custom rom/CWM work. Even relock/RUU, OTA then unlock and go. I had very bad experiences with this bug.
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titanium doesn't restore system bits by default and google/facebook/dropbox is integrated into the OS.
You CAN force it to I believe but it WILL break things if you change your ROM at all.
IN my mind a small issue doesn't take long to sign back into those services as long as all your apps and data is intact thats all good.
If you have the filesystem thing I STRONGLY SUGGEST you up to 1.29.xyz.11 before you do any more custom rom/CWM work. Even relock/RUU, OTA then unlock and go. I had very bad experiences with this bug.
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Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I totally would upgrade to the RUU if HTC there wasn't this small issue of the RUU not working. I live and bought my phone in Sweden and my CID confirms it's a european phone - however when I run the RUU it formats the phone and transfers about half the ROM then setup says "nope, wrong ROM." and leaves me with a dysfunctional OS. I'm also on a Mac so I have to run Windows 7 in VM Ware Fusion and starting that stupid RUU-file and everything takes AGES. I've already spent the better part of a day and night trying to get it to work and if I'm opening that RUU one more time with VM Ware if it doesn't work I think I'm gonna hang myself. So very very very sick and tired of that bullcrap. So... for now I'm either waiting for access to a Windows computer so I can try all of the RUUs and see if my phone's transmutated into the wrong region OR I'm awaiting an S-OFF mod so I don't need to use RUU.
As for the logins and such, it's not only google/facebook/dropbox. It's also Twitter, Evernote, Swiftkey and well... pretty much everything. Chrome seems to be logged in. AnkiDroid didn't get to save it's data (which luckily is saved in the cloud... and backed up manually).
Google Music offline data would be nice to keep to since it's pretty slow to sync. Plus I have to look-up what I actually want everytime I reflash.
Also, if I'm only flashing an upgrade to my current ROM must I really enter all the passwords again anyway?
kaminix said:
Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I totally would upgrade to the RUU if HTC there wasn't this small issue of the RUU not working. I live and bought my phone in Sweden and my CID confirms it's a european phone - however when I run the RUU it formats the phone and transfers about half the ROM then setup says "nope, wrong ROM." and leaves me with a dysfunctional OS. I'm also on a Mac so I have to run Windows 7 in VM Ware Fusion and starting that stupid RUU-file and everything takes AGES. I've already spent the better part of a day and night trying to get it to work and if I'm opening that RUU one more time with VM Ware if it doesn't work I think I'm gonna hang myself. So very very very sick and tired of that bullcrap. So... for now I'm either waiting for access to a Windows computer so I can try all of the RUUs and see if my phone's transmutated into the wrong region OR I'm awaiting an S-OFF mod so I don't need to use RUU.
As for the logins and such, it's not only google/facebook/dropbox. It's also Twitter, Evernote, Swiftkey and well... pretty much everything. Chrome seems to be logged in. AnkiDroid didn't get to save it's data (which luckily is saved in the cloud... and backed up manually).
Google Music offline data would be nice to keep to since it's pretty slow to sync. Plus I have to look-up what I actually want everytime I reflash.
Also, if I'm only flashing an upgrade to my current ROM must I really enter all the passwords again anyway?
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Not sure if its not vmware thats breaking your RUU..... you can check your CID in fastboot and verify, if its supposed to work then its supposed to work, its vmware breaking it.
Hey at least you can flash a ROM right? 10 minutes entering passwords again is a lot less problems than a lot of people have encountered (including me, I got a corrupted super laggy file system IO after CWM and the disappearing SD card space bug hit at once).
As for nandroid, yes it doesn't touch your sd card but otherwise its 1:1 I've always gotten back from a nandroid with everything exactly as it was
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Not sure if its not vmware thats breaking your RUU..... you can check your CID in fastboot and verify, if its supposed to work then its supposed to work, its vmware breaking it.
Hey at least you can flash a ROM right? 10 minutes entering passwords again is a lot less problems than a lot of people have encountered (including me, I got a corrupted super laggy file system IO after CWM and the disappearing SD card space bug hit at once).
As for nandroid, yes it doesn't touch your sd card but otherwise its 1:1 I've always gotten back from a nandroid with everything exactly as it was
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Maybe. But it's very strange that VM Ware would be breaking a RUU isn't it?
Either way it means I need access to a Windows computer, either because VM Ware is breaking or because it's too darn slow. Indeed I have checked my CID in fastboot and it does say euro (well, I don't remember the CID itself but it correlated to euro).
Thanks for all your help. Greatly appreciated.
no probs good luck
edit: are you sure you are unbranded. If you are branded (Carrier handset) you need the carrier's RUU
its not that strange vmware breaks it, you are doing something that requires low level write access via USB.

Helium Backup on LG G4 (H815)

Has anyone gotten Helium to work yet?
I've been playing around with it for the last hour or so and I'm not having any luck. I've tried PTP, MTP, installing updated drivers, just won't take.
Am I missing something? Or is this just not supported yet?
ClockworkMod Support says they are currently looking into the issues. Sounds like it just doesn't like the phone for whatever reason. Bummer
I could make the PC showing "Green Tick" mark and saying phone is connected, but the app in the mobile saying "waiting for the connection in pc" which is weird.
Thank god i was at the point of doing a fresh install of Windows because i thought my drivers where screwed up
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I could make the PC showing "Green Tick" mark and saying phone is connected, but the app in the mobile saying "waiting for the connection in pc" which is weird.
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That's the same issue I was having, just making sure I wasn't crazy!
So what are the alternatives?
Getting your new phone to act like the old one is the worst part of getting a new phone. Ugh, first world problems. Actually was dreading even receiving my G4 because of this and now Helium doesn't even work.
This is my first non Nexus in a long time. How else can I move all my apps and app data over??
Yes, same problem here. I've emailed [email protected] to let them know.
I'm going to mention the unmentionable:
When you get a new iPhone on the day of release, you log in, and wait while everything is restored.
How's the average non-XDA Android owner supposed to move to a new phone?! Even us XDA readers have to wait for Helium, for boot unlock, root to catch up with us.
I got this reply from Clockworkmod support:
"Hi there, we are looking into the G4 issues now, sorry for your frustration. "
Fingers crossed!
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So what are the alternatives?
Getting your new phone to act like the old one is the worst part of getting a new phone. Ugh, first world problems. Actually was dreading even receiving my G4 because of this and now Helium doesn't even work.
This is my first non Nexus in a long time. How else can I move all my apps and app data over??
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I was able to still use Helium to backup, then did a manual restore with adb. I had a rooted Nexus 5 and used Helium like normal to do a backup. Then copied the 'carbon' folder from the Nexus 5 to my PC. What Helium is really doing is using adb to restore data, so after you have the Helium backup, you can connect your G4 to your PC (and all needed drivers) and use the command 'adb restore'. It is a bit tedious, as you need to restore each application separately, but it works. Example:
adb restore <path to carbon folder>/com.application.example/com.application.example.ab
Then follow the instructions on screen on the G4 and enter a password if you did when you did the backup in Helium.
I also used SMSBackupandRestore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en) for SMS, MMS and call logs, since adb can't do those without root.
Got my G4 back to pretty much the same state. Would be much easier with root and Titanium, but for now it did the job.
unnamedapps said:
I was able to still use Helium to backup, then did a manual restore with adb. I had a rooted Nexus 5 and used Helium like normal to do a backup. Then copied the 'carbon' folder from the Nexus 5 to my PC. What Helium is really doing is using adb to restore data, so after you have the Helium backup, you can connect your G4 to your PC (and all needed drivers) and use the command 'adb restore'. It is a bit tedious, as you need to restore each application separately, but it works. Example:
adb restore <path to carbon folder>/com.application.example/com.application.example.ab
Then follow the instructions on screen on the G4 and enter a password if you did when you did the backup in Helium.
I also used SMSBackupandRestore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en) for SMS, MMS and call logs, since adb can't do those without root.
Got my G4 back to pretty much the same state. Would be much easier with root and Titanium, but for now it did the job.
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or you could try the less tedious job of http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-...-apps-your-htc-one-using-adb-for-mac-0151180/
which is essentially what helium does anyway....
soyelmango said:
Yes, same problem here. I've emailed [email protected] to let them know.
I'm going to mention the unmentionable:
When you get a new iPhone on the day of release, you log in, and wait while everything is restored.
How's the average non-XDA Android owner supposed to move to a new phone?! Even us XDA readers have to wait for Helium, for boot unlock, root to catch up with us.
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There is LG Backup. Going from an LG G2, G3 maybe others, to the G4 it does a very thorough job of restoring sms/mms, call logs, apps dat/settings, etc. Coming from other Android phones it's only a matter of Google automatically downloading the apps/data and copying over the data. Contacts stored in Gmail is important. I've helped non techie friends do this - very easy.
starfcker69 said:
There is LG Backup. Going from an LG G2, G3 maybe others, to the G4 it does a very thorough job of restoring sms/mms, call logs, apps dat/settings, etc. Coming from other Android phones it's only a matter of Google automatically downloading the apps/data and copying over the data. Contacts stored in Gmail is important. I've helped non techie friends do this - very easy.
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Too bad the Verizon Fun Police took the LG Backup away, for some of us.
icecold23 said:
Too bad the Verizon Fun Police took the LG Backup away, for some of us.
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Verizon must know what's best for you!
starfcker69 said:
Verizon must know what's best for you!
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Yup, and my phone prompts me to eat all my vegetables before I can send a text. So annoying...
starfcker69 said:
... Coming from other Android phones it's only a matter of Google automatically downloading the apps/data and copying over the data. Contacts stored in Gmail is important...
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That's what I thought too. I've got contacts, calendar, etc on my Google account, so no problem there. However, the only data Google restored was my Google sign in (that is, access to contacts, calendar, gmail, etc) - but not the app settings themselves, not even for their own Gmail app. The concept of Google backing up and restoring app data is fantastic, but unfortunately in practice, I haven't seen it happen.
if you just want to restore some backup from previous phone to G4, you could always use adb command to do that instead of helium app, just type
adb restore "backup location", where the "backup location" is the location that you put your helium backup, the file with the extension .ab
emprize said:
if you just want to restore some backup from previous phone to G4, you could always use adb command to do that instead of helium app, just type
adb restore "backup location", where the "backup location" is the location that you put your helium backup, the file with the extension .ab
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I was able to restore my Helium backups one backup at a time (a pain but at least I got the important stuff), but I was not able to do a adb backup of my old phone (something like this "adb backup -noapk -noshared -nosystem -all -f c:\backup.ab" and restore it to the G4. It would say restoring for about 1-2 seconds and then quit with no error and nothing restored. It would have been very nice to get it work using only adb and do it all with one file and one command...
ColdBrew said:
I was able to restore my Helium backups one backup at a time (a pain but at least I got the important stuff), but I was not able to do a adb backup of my old phone (something like this "adb backup -noapk -noshared -nosystem -all -f c:\backup.ab" and restore it to the G4. It would say restoring for about 1-2 seconds and then quit with no error and nothing restored. It would have been very nice to get it work using only adb and do it all with one file and one command...
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try downloading adb over wifi and try again (if you need to)
No news from Helium ? Same trouble here.
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