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Hi guys, my mother work at the airport of montreal and several days ago she find a HTC Evo 4G. She try to join the person impossible because there's a pattern to draw. She bring it back home since it was totaly impossible to call anyone and that no one call. That HTC is from spring and spring are in the USA at the beginning i tought that we could just replace the sim card, but I discover that this phone has no sim card on it. Now here is my question. Is there a way to pull out the sim card or is there a way to remove the lock that is set on it ?
Guys no answer with ''oh you should bring it back or call the company" look she found the phone no one call we try to join now that we have it we would like to use it.
Thank you.

Okay, I'll bite.
DISCLAIMER: I work for a vendor for Verizon tech, so I do know this stuff, but I am not speaking on behalf of Verizon Wireless in any way, all this knowledge is my own, for your personal benefit.
The EVO is a CDMA/Wimax phone. CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) is a totally different technology than GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications). CDMA phones do NOT utilize SIM cards. The only phones that are CDMA that have a SIM card are Verizon's 4G LTE phones (and the sim card is for the 4G radio in an LTE phone). Make sense? CDMA = no sim card, ever, cannot work overseas (i.e. Verizon and Sprint). GSM = yes, these phones use SIM cards. AT&T and T-Mobile are both GSM, as are most networks outside the U.S.
Fun fact: CDMA is a more secure connection and cannot be "tapped into" or "hacked" as easily as GSM.
Edit: Yes, Verizon has phones that can use both Cdma/Gsm connections, but there are very few. I am not sure if Sprint has any, but the EVO is certainly not one of them.

Also no one could help you out for the fact that would be stealing. Also the person that lost the phone can have the location sent to their gmail if they know what to do. Otherwise it should remain in lost and found so when the person call to see if its there they can find it.

tam147 said:
Guys no answer with ''oh you should bring it back or call the company"
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ummm......you should bring it back or call Sprint. Although I will say it sounds like you are surrounded by some lucky people. Mom found Evo and you posted a few months back girlfriend found a phone in cab that you couldn't unlock either.

Umm yeah, what you are asking is stealing, and is illegal. Either take the phone to a sprint store, or take the battery out, write down the esn, and call sprint at 888-211-4727 and tell them you found the phone, they will ship you a box to send it back to them.

rockingout92 said:
lEdit: Yes, Verizon has phones that can use both Cdma/Gsm connections, but there are very few. I am not sure if Sprint has any, but the EVO is certainly not one of them.
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The Photon is a "worldphone"

Turn it in at a sprint store

Hey, don't listen to these guys. Stealing is perfectly okay. After all, there's no such thing as karma, right? Just solder a GSM radio into place where your CDMA radio goes and you'll be good to go!
^^sarcasm.
The photon... hmmmm i need to play around with it. I really hate motorola's just because all my friend's phones have ruined the experience for me.

rockingout92 said:
The photon... hmmmm i need to play around with it. I really hate motorola's just because all my friend's phones have ruined the experience for me.
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A lot of people are saying its the best phone they've ever used.
It has vanilla android with a Motorola launcher I believe.
All bloatware is uninstallable.

Very surprising. good info, for sure. I will have to pick one up and mess with it. Hopefully they do not break like all of the droid franchise

yeah definitely just call sprint and have them walk you through it although the guy from verizon has a point it wont do you any good unless you are living in the US since the phone will never ever pick up any signal overseas

If your mom work in an airport she should of done the right thing and turned it in not take it home. Well I'm glad I got sprint family locator and where's my Droid app to find my phone !
Sent from my White Evo 4G

I like the lookout plan b. nice and sneaky. always leave your gps turned on. hehehehehehehe. OP, you should be glad you don't have my phone right now...

How do you want me to take the phone to a sprint store i live in canada and this is a US store I mean do you really think that they will send somebody in canada to take back his phone come on.... Anyways I found a way to change the carrier and unlock it.
Thanks guys

call them and they will send you a return kit will cost you nothing to ship it back

by the sounds of it, you said his phone, you sure you dont know who's it is?

Galaxy Nexus on Page Plus? I want that unlimited talk/sms/1GB data for $55

I'm a brand new Galaxy Nexus owner! Actually I bought it for my girlfriend; there's no way I could give up my Note. Anyone know how to get this thing set up on Page Plus? The first thing they asked for is an ESN or MEID #, so I pulled the battery and there's only an IMEI # listed. The customer service rep said they can't do anything without an ESN or MEID; but then how does it work on Verizon? If it works with Verizon, it should work with Page Plus.
I'm starting to worry now, because I also just found a thread here where they're trying the same thing but stuck because they can't find the diagnostic menu for manual programming. Anyone know anything about that? Now that I have it in my hands, I reallllly want to get it working!!!

I like how you bought the phone and then decided to do the research on it.
And why did you decide to go for the Verizon version and go with Page Plus? You'd be better off getting the GSM version anyway and using that. There are many many many more MVNO and prepaid options if you just bought GSM. Its not like you were going to get LTE on any prepaid network anyways. Buying a Galaxy Nexus and parking it on EVDO is kinda ****ty.
That being said, looks like you're gonna have to do some research on this one. My guess is theres an issue because Verizon activates and registers phones on their network using the LTE SIM, rather than traditional CDMA methods (afaik).

Err...Verizon uses the MicroSIM. It contains an MEID number, so it can easily be attached to the network when it's plugged in.
Also, the CDMA/LTE Nexus is carrier-locked, so even if you had an MEID number it wouldn't be allowed on Page Plus' network.
Did you seriously spend $650 without even doing a minute of research?

It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research. I'm sure I can re-sell it if I have to, but I'd really rather not.
After posting I went to About in settings and found that it does have an MEID #, which happens to be the same as the IMEI, but missing the last digit.
So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
Yes, I know I still have some reading to do; I just got home and immediately posted because I couldn't wait!

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So there's no unlock for it yet? I assumed that it being google's Android flagship would mean almost immediate root and unlock.
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But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.

Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
martonikaj said:
But its a CDMA phone... Just resell it and buy the GSM model. Save yourself the trouble.
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I will if I have to, but I'm gonna try to make it work first. She's pretty happy with Page Plus (Verizon service) where she travels for work.

maxh said:
Do you think it might help if I went by a Verizon store and got a SIM card?
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How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.

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How are you gonna convince them to do that when you have no indication whatsoever of signing a contract or using their service? lol.
And that still doesn't remove the fact that it registers on the network with the SIM, which Page Plus (in my reading) does not do, as they don't have LTE.
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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?

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I figured I'd do some sweet talking... And maybe ask to get set up for Verizon prepaid.
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But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
So are you saying if you're in an area where Verizon hasn't yet rolled out LTE the GNexus won't fall back to CDMA or EV-DO, or whatever those non GSM people use?
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Of course it will. It does EVDO and LTE. Not everywhere has LTE yet. What I'm saying is why deal with EVDO (you'll never get LTE on Page Plus) when you could have HSPA+ with the GSM model.

martonikaj said:
But their SIM is provisioned for their network. Not Page Plus' network. That's like saying you're going to walk into an AT&T store just to get a SIM, then try to go over to T-Mobile and use their network. That's not how it works.
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Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.

maxh said:
Page Plus's network is Verizon's network. (though I don't think LTE is included. People on AT&T MVNOs (such as straight talk) regularly get SIM cards from AT&T stores to fix service issues...
I found these guys who claim to flash all sorts of devices including Android for Page Plus, and they have a huge Galaxy Nexus picture front and center; I contacted them and hope it's not false advertising.
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Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.

maxh said:
It was a great deal I couldn't pass up: $300! (though it does have a little road rash on the bottom edge.) That's why I bought it right away without first doing the research.
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If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S

martonikaj said:
Yes its the same network, I'm aware of how an MVNO works... what I'm saying is Page Plus doesn't activate phones using SIM cards because it doesn't have LTE or that system in place, whereas Verizon does. Which leads to issues.
Just makes more hurdles. As I said, you're going through extra trouble to just get a EVDO-stuck Galaxy Nexus. But that's your choice...
And ouch, those guys charge $50 to flash your phone? Kinda lame...
Anyways, good luck to you.
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Thank you for taking the time to comment in my thread. I started it with hopes of generating conversation that could lead to clues on overcoming the hurdles of putting the GNex on Page Plus. I don't need suggestions for other courses of action; my girlfriend is very happy with Page Plus (and the Verizon network) where she travels for work. I wanted to get her a new phone, the best one that'll work on Page Plus, and I found a smoking deal on it so I bought it.
So what it won't achieve LTE speeds; there's still many other things to like about it, and nothing else will achieve LTE on Page Plus, either. It's a perfectly good plan; not everyone's willing to pay twice as much or more just for LTE, but may still want a top notch phone.
I'll give it a week or two then sell it if nobody can figure out diagnostics mode on it, but I have high hoped.
And if it took paying $50, it'd still be dirt cheap compared to going to Verizon! You'd make that money back and then some on the first month with Page Plus instead of Verizon!

CyberPunk7t9 said:
If you (really) ended up with a used, slightly damaged Verizon Galaxy Nexus for that price, and can't use it without signing a contract with Verizon. I say you're pretty much screwed since the price of Verizon's Galaxy Nexus just went down to $99 only.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Android-Wireless/dp/B0061R2A1S
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Oh, it'd move. Looking at completed listings on Ebay and craigslist offerings, I'm pretty sure it'd be snatched up rapidly at $300. $99 is with 2-year commitment and those subsidies tend to translate to street value around $350 (i.e. that's the discount you get for signing a contract.) Anyways, I have a habit of giving old devices to friends/family.
Edit: especially with the terms/conditions Amazon puts on top of Verizon's in the contracts...
Edit 2: of course neither I nor anyone else would have to sign a Verizon contract on this phone, since the original guy who got the subsidized price did it.

Anybody know anything more about this yet?

maxh said:
Anybody know anything more about this yet?
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I highly doubt anyone is doing much research on this, since it's such a rare request. Most people will just get the GSM model, if they do not want to use Verizon.
If you have a local shop willing to do this for you, I recommend contacting them - but I wouldn't pay a cent until you've verified functionality.
Cheers

Hi!
I am doing my own research too cause I too own a Verizon Galaxy nexus, and want to get it working with my local carrier in Mexico. Still looking to get it in diagnostic mode but wit no possitive results yet. As always, there will be a solution, but as things are going until now, it could take some time to appear.
And as yomuppet says, dont pay a cent until you see the thing workin!

I'd pay the 50 bucks to get it flash by that website or another site called beige something...
Otherwise you need CDMA workshop.
Look up HTC Thunderbolt on pageplus on these forums and you'll find a video on how to do it on that fone. I image it would be similar process for the sammy

did anyone ever get this working?

I totally understand original posters issue. I like the nexus and would like to get one but I too am a happy pageplus customer and would like to see if there's a way to make it work. Lame that people can't address the issue at hand but instead try to ridicule your decision. I tried setting up the droid charge (also a 4g lte phone) on pageplus but with no success - and ended up selling it. And yes, I walked into the verizon store and asked and they just gave me a sim card. but it still wouldn't register - and I also gave them the imei #minus the last digit. Too bad... I really like the new lte phones but I haven't seen many of then work on pageplus yet. If anyone figures it out, please post it here.

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Hi guys,
I have the N5100 3G version. I have had it since may and it has worked well. However, since yesterday, Three UK started blocking me from using data. It says I have to get a tablet sim. The problem is I don't want to loose the ability to make phone calls.
Has anyone had an issue like this?

I'm also having the same issue, I have spoken to three support today at length with the result being "we can sell you a mobile broadband plan sim that you can swap out for data" - it appears that Three have launched the LTE version on the note 8 as a tablet only device (ie, no phone or text) and so are blocking all versions of the note 8 under that ruling.
I'm going to try and get to talk to someone not loacted in India tomorrow to look into this as this is my main device for phone calls aswell as data and I'm locked into the one plan for another 9 months!

isdky said:
I'm also having the same issue, I have spoken to three support today at length with the result being "we can sell you a mobile broadband plan sim that you can swap out for data" - it appears that Three have launched the LTE version on the note 8 as a tablet only device (ie, no phone or text) and so are blocking all versions of the note 8 under that ruling.
I'm going to try and get to talk to someone not loacted in India tomorrow to look into this as this is my main device for phone calls aswell as data and I'm locked into the one plan for another 9 months!
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Yay, I am not the only one! I am really disappointed with it. They don't seem to understand me, I also use it as my main device. I do wonder how they identify the device, it would be good if we could change it so they think its a phone.

JCUK89 said:
Yay, I am not the only one! I am really disappointed with it. They don't seem to understand me, I also use it as my main device. I do wonder how they identify the device, it would be good if we could change it so they think its a phone.
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We 5100 owners in the US want the exact opposite: tablet plans are so much cheaper, we wish it were recognized as tablets instead of phones! If they are identifying your device by imei number, you may be able to get around it by using an imei from an LTE version. I had a similar issue (in reverse) and that's how it was resolved. I may eventually get caught, but for now, I'm flying under the radar.

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We 5100 owners in the US want the exact opposite: tablet plans are so much cheaper, we wish it were recognized as tablets instead of phones! If they are identifying your device by imei number, you may be able to get around it by using an imei from an LTE version. I had a similar issue (in reverse) and that's how it was resolved. I may eventually get caught, but for now, I'm flying under the radar.
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How difficult was that to do?

Be careful talk of changing imei is against the TOS on these forums. As tempting as it sounds it is both dangerous and legally dubious. It is a common tactic used by phone thieves to activate stolen phones. Also modifying such information can render your phone a paper weight if not careful.

isdky said:
How difficult was that to do?
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I'm not sure exactly how it was done, but it only took a few minutes to do. I'm sorry I don't know more about what's involved.
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isdky said:
I'm also having the same issue, I have spoken to three support today at length with the result being "we can sell you a mobile broadband plan sim that you can swap out for data" - it appears that Three have launched the LTE version on the note 8 as a tablet only device (ie, no phone or text) and so are blocking all versions of the note 8 under that ruling.
I'm going to try and get to talk to someone not loacted in India tomorrow to look into this as this is my main device for phone calls aswell as data and I'm locked into the one plan for another 9 months!
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Hi, have you spoken to someone? Any resolution?

unlocked verizon note 10 plus issues

Hi, i purchased an unlocked verizon N10+ from swappa.com . I spoke to verizon over the phone, via fb and twitter and i confirmed with them the phone is FULLY unlocked, no bad debts not stolen. I even went to a verizon store saw the screen with everything ticked green for ok.
But i have tested a tmobile and att sims and they both tell me contact verizon (and obviously i did through the above methods).
I want the option for it to work on gsm (works fine on verizon)
Any ideas what is, could be wrong. Verizon is adamently it should be working..but alas
Thanks.

Most verizon phones have to be on their carrier for 60 days after they are sold. Maybe the phone didn't meet that criteria? And I know for my phone, I've used it on T-Mobile, but I couldn't switch it over until after I went through the set up process.

ptko15 said:
Most verizon phones have to be on their carrier for 60 days after they are sold. Maybe the phone didn't meet that criteria? And I know for my phone, I've used it on T-Mobile, but I couldn't switch it over until after I went through the set up process.
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Whats the setup process?
I am going from an mvno to verizon (for a month only) to get their tech support, i have read elsewhere tier 2 tech support can solve the issue. But its a pain.

sammyDC said:
Whats the setup process?
I am going from an mvno to verizon (for a month only) to get their tech support, i have read elsewhere tier 2 tech support can solve the issue. But its a pain.
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I'm sure there is a way. The phone you purchased is a Verizon phone, from what it sounds like, and wasn't on the carrier the full 60 days. So you may need to be on verizon 60 days total. Or get them to unlock it.

ptko15 said:
I'm sure there is a way. The phone you purchased is a Verizon phone, from what it sounds like, and wasn't on the carrier the full 60 days. So you may need to be on verizon 60 days total. Or get them to unlock it.
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It is a verizon phone. It IS unlocked. But first level of support cant solve it. I need their tier 2 le el of support and hence the move to a more expensive verizon from a cheaper mvno JUST to get that support...
But thats life !!!!

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It is a verizon phone. It IS unlocked. But first level of support cant solve it. I need their tier 2 le el of support and hence the move to a more expensive verizon from a cheaper mvno JUST to get that support...
But thats life !!!!
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It sounds like it wasn't an unlocked device, but rather a carrier device that was through Verizon. The person you bought it from probably didn't have it on Verizon longer then 60 days.

12 people verified unlocked all verizon ppl. Phone, fb, twitter, in store.
Others on xda said u need tier 2 support, frontline verizon ppl do not know or understand

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12 people verified unlocked all verizon ppl. Phone, fb, twitter, in store.
Others on xda said u need tier 2 support, frontline verizon ppl do not know or understand
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What MNVO were you trying to use it on?
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gernerttl said:
What MNVO were you trying to use it on?
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I am using fine on redpocket verizon. would like to try att or tmobile mvno - eg redpocket or mint. tried both sims from other people they don't work.
also went to a tmobile store and they tried - didnt work.
it's a verizon issue at this stage. will contact their tier 2 support. I have read others have had success (hopefully they do a 'real' unlock !!!!)

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I am using fine on redpocket verizon. would like to try att or tmobile mvno - eg redpocket or mint. tried both sims from other people they don't work.
also went to a tmobile store and they tried - didnt work.
it's a verizon issue at this stage. will contact their tier 2 support. I have read others have had success (hopefully they do a 'real' unlock !!!!)
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Yeah. It that's a Verizon problem. I know Verizon phones are GSM capable, because I have used them in Japan and Okinawa. Have you tried a factory reset with a non-Verizon SIM in it?

No i didnt try factory reset...
BUT since signing up to verizon and using the service i called them and now they are saying i need to complete 60 days (54 to go) to get it unlocked.
Interesting a dozen people said it WAS unlocked while i was on redpocket (verizon version), and also the IMEI has changed since placing in a verizon sim - howd that happen? Do imei s change or what?
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You can change an IMEI, but it's illegal in most countries. The fact that it changed after you activated on Verizon indicates that the previous owner was possibly doing something shady.
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Question Can send sms on Verizon but can't receive messages. Any fix?

I've tried using shortcut master and accessing the telephony bands settings in the Red Magic 6 settings that isn't viewable. So far, no luck. I tried setting it to evdo, cdma, etc.
Anyone find a fix or have found a workaround for this?

I'm having the same issue. So far I have stumped the techs at my local Verizon store and also tech support. I have an escalated ticket with phone support so hopefully I'll get some answers. In the meantime someone on reddit mentioned when they got a new SIM card it worked. They were going from an old 4G phone SIM to a 5G. This was my situation but did not fix it for me. Worth a shot if you haven't tried it yet.

Your never gonna get sms working properly on Verizon.

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I'm having the same issue. So far I have stumped the techs at my local Verizon store and also tech support. I have an escalated ticket with phone support so hopefully I'll get some answers. In the meantime someone on reddit mentioned when they got a new SIM card it worked. They were going from an old 4G phone SIM to a 5G. This was my situation but did not fix it for me. Worth a shot if you haven't tried it yet.
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Update: I talked to tier 2 tech support at Verizon and had my ticket escalated to the Network Repair Bureau. From what it sounds is that they need to enable CDMA less on the Red Magic 6 but aren't able to until the device is added to their list, which they are going to do. ETA is 1-5 days.
The tech said they had a ticket exactly like this before and were successful so there is some hope here. I'll continue to pursue this and update again once I have more.

WR-3N said:
Update: I talked to tier 2 tech support at Verizon and had my ticket escalated to the Network Repair Bureau. From what it sounds is that they need to enable CDMA less on the Red Magic 6 but aren't able to until the device is added to their list, which they are going to do. ETA is 1-5 days.
The tech said they had a ticket exactly like this before and were successful so there is some hope here. I'll continue to pursue this and update again once I have more.
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Good luck with that. Vz are diks with non approved phone. Another way around it, is activate a one plus, and they will add CDMA less instantly, then pop sim in rm6

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Good luck with that. Vz are diks with non approved phone. Another way around it, is activate a one plus, and they will add CDMA less instantly, then pop sim in rm6
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If it comes down to that, I'll give it a try. I don't have a One Plus on hand but maybe I can get them to try it at the Verizon store.

Can you even get Band 13 on this phone?

RealSaiyanAS said:
Can you even get Band 13 on this phone?
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Nope