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Or will I be forced to keep my Oneplus Two since it can also do L3 (Standard Definition/720x480) DRM video like all the rest of the Oneplus Phones.
Without L1; Amazon, Netflix, VUDU, YouTube TV, and Hulu will be locked to 720x480 resolution. I am surprised that NONE of the reviews even mention video playback, almost like it was intentionally left out.
I've been asking around but no one has answered me yet...
Netflix has stated that devices with a Snapdragon 835 would be able to access HD content, however I don't know if that applies to all devices or only the ones with L1 autorisation.
We really need a 5T owner to test these kind of things.
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Or will I be forced to keep my Oneplus Two since it can also do L3 (Standard Definition/720x480) DRM video like all the rest of the Oneplus Phones.
Without L1; Amazon, Netflix, VUDU, YouTube TV, and Hulu will be locked to 720x480 resolution. I am surprised that NONE of the reviews even mention video playback, almost like it was intentionally left out.
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The 5T still has the L3 certification. That is confirmed by the Oneplus staff. On the other hand, Netflix says that the stream will be in full HD for all devices with the Qualcomm 835 cpu. I don’t have Netflix myself so i can not check if this is true.
Wow, this would be a deal breaker if I can't view Amazon Video with HD quality.
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Maybe someone can test it with this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidfung.drminfo
Sadly it comes with L3 only: https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...-ueber-amazon-video.855928.html#post-10777775
I got someone on Reddit to run the test and apparently the 5T can only get up to 560p on Netflix, however I think (and hope) that it is just a temporary problem and that it will soon be fixed.
And Amazon (Prime/Instant) Video?
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I got someone on Reddit to run the test and apparently the 5T can only get up to 560p on Netflix, however I think (and hope) that it is just a temporary problem and that it will soon be fixed.
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If this is true then the claim about it lacking L1 must be false. It wouldn't go higher than 480p.
xocomaox said:
If this is true then the claim about it lacking L1 must be false. It wouldn't go higher than 480p.
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Actually it just depends on the video used to do the test: if you use the 4k one your resolution will go up to 560p even on a L3 device, if you use the 1080p test video your resolution will only go up to 480p, just as you said.
I don't know why it does that, but I verified on my L3 Note 10.1 2014 Edition and I managed to replicate these results.
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Actually it just depends on the video used to do the test: if you use the 4k one your resolution will go up to 560p even on a L3 device, if you use the 1080p test video your resolution will only go up to 480p, just as you said.
I don't know why it does that, but I verified on my L3 Note 10.1 2014 Edition and I managed to replicate these results.
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Interesting. I don't have any of these services to test this out, but will see if I can find more info on the matter.
It's so annoying, even on YouTube you have to switch to 1080p everytime
Is this issue solved?
OrtizFerrari said:
Is this issue solved?
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No, nothing has changed: the OP5T is still only L3 and OnePlus doesn't seem to mind that their +$500 "Flagship Killer" can't even play Netflix/Amazon/*insert popular streaming service* in HD.
Ockham's Chainsaw said:
No, nothing has changed: the OP5T is still only L3 and OnePlus doesn't seem to mind that their +$500 "Flagship Killer" can't even play Netflix/Amazon/*insert popular streaming service* in HD.
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But this is amazing...and no one is saying anything about this...
Netflix/Amazon/YouTube Look pretty HD on my 5T
Willey1986 said:
Netflix/Amazon/YouTube Look pretty HD on my 5T
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Test it with the "Test Pattern" videos on Netflix and you'll see (let it play for a good 5-10 minutes just to be sure), the 5T doesn't actually have any serious problems with YouTube, it's just that it always defaults to 480p, kinda annoying but that's it.
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It's so annoying, even on YouTube you have to switch to 1080p everytime
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My phone plays videos at 1080p on YouTube. I have it set to auto and if it's available, it plays it.
I'm talking about normal YouTube and not the paid service.
We should make a change.org or something, because this is stupid. The solution is easy but they dont want to implement in the device...So annoying, Oneplus.
OrtizFerrari said:
We should make a change.org or something, because this is stupid. The solution is easy but they dont want to implement in the device...So annoying, Oneplus.
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If you dont like, then dont buy it. What you think how much oneplus corp even care something derp www-page change.org? Newsflash: they dont care, we dont care.
Just buy samsung or iphone
mumuli said:
If you dont like, then dont buy it. What you think how much oneplus corp even care something derp www-page change.org? Newsflash: they dont care, we dont care.
Just buy samsung or iphone
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I have one OP5T sir. I bought because its an awesome phone, but I want to watch my series in their full resolution too.
Greetings.
So I've been asking this question on almost all the new phones' forums recently because it's never mentioned in any of the spec websites or the manufacturers website. None of the YouTube tech channels check it either except for one which he also forgets to do for some of the phones.
The question is.... Is this phone Widevine L1 certified?
Anybody who already bought the phone can check through downloading an app via playstore. App name is 'drm info'.
Screenshot would be appreciated for anybody who are looking for this particular feature in the next phone they're gonna buy. Thanks in advance guys.
I'm 99.9% sure if will only have level 3, no other Xiaomi phone has anything different. However, I'd also really like to know for sure as this might decide whether I get this phone or not.
confirmed only L3 as shown in this video review
https://youtu.be/0rjZx_5JD1s?t=10m46s
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confirmed only L3 as shown in this video review
?t=10m46s
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Thank you for the information good sir
The china rom has L3 because it doesnt need it, global rom it has L1, just wait
I have the official global ROM (9.6.6.0, phone arrived in an English box with English instructions) - L3 only. Sorry.
Isnt this just a software limitation?
Would it not be possible to just replace som .so and .lib files and manually make L1 work?
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Isnt this just a software limitation?
Would it not be possible to just replace som .so and .lib files and manually make L1 work?
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As stated by XDA themselves on the Pocophone:
Fixing this problem via an OTA update won’t be possible, most likely. There have been some devices that received updates that bring Widevine L1 certification, but those devices already had the required device-unique secret key in the TrustZone. It’s unclear if this is the case on the Pocophone F1. If Xiaomi chooses to address this issue, they’ll either have to offer a service like OnePlus did or roll out an update that enables L1 support on the software side. Keep in mind that G
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-poco-f1-widevine-l1-netflix-hd/
benq3000 said:
As stated by XDA themselves on the Pocophone:
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-poco-f1-widevine-l1-netflix-hd/
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Ah so its a chip that runs side-by-side that you cannot access from the main cpu.
Almost like Intel AME with the ME running Minix.
Either a virtual machine running on the soc or a physical chip that communicates back and forth to the soc.
If the kernel image is virtual placed somewhere in the phone there might be a challenge finding this and modify it but keeping the original signature so the phone will boot..and of course it needs to be decrypted.
If its placed on a separate chip its a whole other story. Only way to access and write to that chip is to connect to it with test points or either solder cables to it or desolder the chip reprogram it and solder it back on.
Info: https://source.android.com/security/trusty/
This is for Qualcomm. So its a separate chip inside the soc..seems to have no way to access it from outside
https://github.com/doridori/Android-Security-Reference/blob/master/hardware/TEE.md
For anyone considering whether to buy or not buy the phone based on this piece of information:
Yes, it only has Widevine Security Level L3, but in my personal opinion, even though it's capable of streaming Netflix or Prime Video content in "only" SD quality, that doesn't look bad at all! I'd consider it to be fully on a par with DVD quality, even in view of the device's display size. It's definitely nothing like a blocky low quality Youtube video or something.
In fact, 'til considering to buy this phone I never realized that something called a "Widevine level" even existed or there were phones not having the "best"/"highest" one; so when I tried to compare with the display quality of my recent Huawei Mate 8, I just then realized that it also(!) "only" got L3 and I nether even noticed the supposedly "low" quality.
So, by all means, if this phone matches all or most of the other criteria you might have and you're no snobby screen density or HD video quality connoisseur, who even spots imaginary pixels on a Full HD display 'cause it's not 4K, 8K, nK... HDR and whatnot, please don't miss out on a perfectly good phone (especially regarding the seeming lack of alternatives in the ranks of real(!) phablets)!
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I have the official global ROM (9.6.6.0, phone arrived in an English box with English instructions) - L3 only. Sorry.
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Do you mind if I ask where you ordered from and how much you paid?
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Do you mind if I ask where you ordered from and how much you paid?
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Sure!
Sadly, it won't be of much help.
I ordered it from a local shop in Israel called GoMobile. It cost me 1,270 NIS (355$) for the 4/64 variant.
Patneu said:
For anyone considering whether to buy or not buy the phone based on this piece of information:
Yes, it only has Widevine Security Level L3, but in my personal opinion, even though it's capable of streaming Netflix or Prime Video content in "only" SD quality, that doesn't look bad at all! I'd consider it to be fully on a par with DVD quality, even in view of the device's display size. It's definitely nothing like a blocky low quality Youtube video or something.
In fact, 'til considering to buy this phone I never realized that something called a "Widevine level" even existed or there were phones not having the "best"/"highest" one; so when I tried to compare with the display quality of my recent Huawei Mate 8, I just then realized that it also(!) "only" got L3 and I nether even noticed the supposedly "low" quality.
So, by all means, if this phone matches all or most of the other criteria you might have and you're no snobby screen density or HD video quality connoisseur, who even spots imaginary pixels on a Full HD display 'cause it's not 4K, 8K, nK... HDR and whatnot, please don't miss out on a perfectly good phone (especially regarding the seeming lack of alternatives in the ranks of real(!) phablets)!
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Well... 480p is DVD quality... So you are spot on with that.
The real issue is that we are in the age of 1080p+ and 4k BlueRays.
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The real issue is that we are in the age of 1080p+ and 4k BlueRays.
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Yeah, that's right, I just wanted to add this to the discussion, because reading about this issue, I somehow got the impression, that the quality would be much worse than it actually is and I wanted to help others to put this in perspective accordingly.
I guess many of us also still have large collections of DVDs or even still buy new ones and don't consider the quality to be particularly "bad", although - of course - one could always do better. So I don't think they'll consider the streaming quality offered by this device to be particularly bad, either (4K or better isn't an option here anyway, regardless of Widevine level ).
So, to get this straight: Streaming quality on this device in SD quality is much like the difference between a Blu-ray and DVD - not like a DVD vs. an old-timey blocky/blurry YouTube flash video. If you can live with that and see no other downsides, you likely won't regret your purchase, otherwise: rethink! That's all I wanted to say.
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I somehow got the impression, that the quality would be much worse than it actually is and I wanted to help others to put this in perspective accordingly.
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I'm not a big HD Nazi so I'll probably not mind much but I do watch 1080p copies if they are available simply because why not. I won't be crying wolf over this, especially because I'm fairly sure a custom ROM will rectify this issue further down the road, but it is something I don't understand given how much media the populace consumes at a regular basis now-a-days. Especially on a device who's main feature is a big screen.
We should talk about this issue. Because nowadays android phone's screen gets bigger and bigger.
My mi max 3 has 6.9 inch screen. And I know Honor 8x max has 7.2 inch screen.
And newer device and flagship goes 6+ inch screen. And there have so many 8.4 inch or 9 inch screen android tablet.
Why people pay for the big screen? People wanted to see TV screen-ish quality, right?
That means video playback should increase it, too. Doesn't it?
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We should talk about this issue. Because nowadays android phone's screen gets bigger and bigger.
My mi max 3 has 6.9 inch screen. And I know Honor 8x max has 7.2 inch screen.
And newer device and flagship goes 6+ inch screen. And there have so many 8.4 inch or 9 inch screen android tablet.
Why people pay for the big screen? People wanted to see TV screen-ish quality, right?
That means video playback should increase it, too. Doesn't it?
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To be absolutely honest I bought it for YouTube, manga & comic reading and it's absolutely phenomenal battery.
Netflix and the likes are just the cherry on top... Besides, you can install a patched Netflix APK that skips the widevine checks and feeds you the 1080p streams anyway... Even if your device doesn't have L1.
Oh, thanks for the tips, MrColdbird.
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To be absolutely honest I bought it for YouTube, manga & comic reading and it's absolutely phenomenal battery.
Netflix and the likes are just the cherry on top... Besides, you can install a patched Netflix APK that skips the widevine checks and feeds you the 1080p streams anyway... Even if your device doesn't have L1.
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You meant something like this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-ultrahd-ultrahd-dolby-5-1-l1-t3535349/page26
This stuff no longer works and there is no workaround for a higher quality than 540p on L3 phone. Already tried lot of these apps :/ movies get ultrahd content icon, but that's it. It won't go higher than 540p, you can check that on test patterns.
If you can tell the difference between DVD and HD on a 7" screen ~350 ppi then you are not watching whatever you are watching... You are looking for those imperfections... Enjoy the content and don't look deliberately for things you might not see... It's a under $300 device after all...
Hey guys,
I've red a few threads regarding the Widevine support from late 2018,
and wondered if anything changed so far. I'm looking into buying
the MAX 3, but only if:
1.Widevine L1 Support is available.
2.There is some sort of work-around for the Netflix, Amazon Prime App.
Since this phone is supposed to replace my old S5 and my Ipad Mini 2,
which are starting to really slow down, and I mainly want the huge screen
to watch Netflix and other Stuff in the train, plane etc, when I'm at work
or fly out to customers, this is a huge deal for me.
If any of you guys could help me that would be great!
Greetings,
Max
1. Nope, it has Widevine L3.
2. Netflix app works but max. 540p.
mierlo420 said:
1. Nope, it has Widevine L3.
2. Netflix app works but max. 540p.
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Mhh, okay.
Well it seems like the Honor 8x is the better choice then.
thanks for the info.
Anyone know how good this Android box is and for the price $124.99 US
OS: Android TV 9.0
Bluetooth with Voice & Air Mouse
CPU: Amlogic Quad Core S905X3
GPU: Mali G31
RAM: 4GB
Storage: 32GB
Bluetooth: Yes
Up to 8K resolution
H.265 4K [email protected] 60fps
VP10, VP9 4K profile 2 60fps
H.264 4K [email protected] 30fps (AVC)
60fps (MVC)
Dolby Digital
MP3, AAC, WMA, RM, FLAC, OGG
& AC-3
Optical SPDIF Output
https://www.skystreamx.com
Very nice for the price. It's not well supported though.
I bought the device in January and was happy when it arrived in April. I had the box setup and it ran very smooth on multiple streaming apps. The Airmouse works well too. However, an OTA update caused the box to reset and now it will not detect the internet during the initial setup. I've tried everything but it doesn't seem to work. I'm about to try to explore the filesystem, but I cannot find the original firmware anywhere online. When I contacted customer support, they ran through very basic troubleshooting steps and then told me to send the box back to them. They offered to troubleshoot the device and repair/replace it if there were any issues. Since I waited three months for the box to arrive, I think I would rather play with the box myself than to return it and wait 4-5 months for another box to be sent. Overall, I think the box was an excellent deal, but there is no documentation online for the device, other than youtube videos and advertisements that tell how great the device is. Initial setup is a breeze, but without a copy of the original firmware, I'm up a creek without a paddle. Good luck!
I have had the sky stream 3 plus for over a year now. I bought it because there was so much good hype about it and so many promises of up to date firmware and the such.
So far there have been no updates at all. Do a search in these forums and you will actually find a post from one of the owners asking for someone to develop a firmware for them.
This the 3 plus is pretty much an X96 Max replica. Just different stickers and stamps on the outside.
I have contacted their tech support before and they are pretty much useless. If you join the Elite-mods FB page (best streaming box ever) all you will get is that you shouldn't do this or that. The mods will tell you that everything is user error and to "not overthink things". Not very good support if you ask me .
They pretty much state that you should never, ever do a factory reset. I did just to see what would happen. Well. The box still works but the reinstalled firmware and apps don't work as they should anymore. Magisk doesn't reinstall. Play store will not install. There are work around but support more or less says oh well. We told you.
I wouldn't recommend anything from this company. You can buy the exact same product for half the price from other companies.
After all it is just a Chinese box with slight different firmware.
Pretty crazy to see 8k video from this, does anyone actually have an 8k device actually capable of testing it?
Too bad not much support...
Skystream pro 8K
Just ordered one of these 8k pro from US have to wait on shipping to UK but will post an honest review when it lands guys :good:
I've had numerous Android boxes, firesticks 4k and 2nd gens.
I've done a lot of modifying cheap Chinese boxes, adding cooling, kernel tuning firmware switches and ports.
So we'll see what happens with this hyped up skystream Amlogic device, with android 9 pie.
Not holding my breath though as not many will be willing to pay that cash for a brick.
Regards
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Anyone know how good this Android box is and for the price $124.99 US
OS: Android TV 9.0
Bluetooth with Voice & Air Mouse
CPU: Amlogic Quad Core S905X3
GPU: Mali G31
RAM: 4GB
Storage: 32GB
Bluetooth: Yes
Up to 8K resolution
H.265 4K [email protected] 60fps
VP10, VP9 4K profile 2 60fps
H.264 4K [email protected] 30fps (AVC)
60fps (MVC)
Dolby Digital
MP3, AAC, WMA, RM, FLAC, OGG
& AC-3
Optical SPDIF Output
https://www.skystreamx.com
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I have two of these boxes that I just bought and they are going back. Skystream lies to their customers constantly, like telling me the boxes were "kind of rooted", whatever that means. It looks like they might be running some hacked version of Android TV but I can't confirm. I do know that the native Netflix and Prime app won't play 4k. If you ask them they'll tell you the boxes are rooted and can run any app, total lie. My advice is to stay as far away from Skystream and you can possibly get.
My advice is to stay away from this company https://www.skystreamx.com/ This company is just a total waste of money and time.
They took my money and did not send me the SkyStream PRO 8K Streaming Media Player which I purchased on 01/26/2021 with Subtotal: $124.99 Shipping: $20.00 Total: $144.99. I contacted them many times and here is the chat:
First Email on Mar 2, 2021 I wrote: Hi there, I hope you are doing well. Is there any update about my purchase? Thank you.
They reply on Mar 5, 2021: Hello, we are still awaiting our manufacturer to install the new WIFI chips to the 700+ boxes. As they are following CDC guidelines - production has been a bit slower. We are expecting this to be completed by Monday and begin being shipped to us by Tuesday or Wednesday. Once our shipment has arrived, we will keep you updated and let you know a tracking number for your order. ETA One to two weeks at this time.
Second Email on Mar 16, 2021 I wrote: hi. how long does shipping take to be arrived to you? Thanks
They reply on Mar 17, 2021: Hello, our shipping department is fulfilling orders in chronological order, orders will be going out this week and next week as well. You should retrieve tracking information as soon as it's shipped. Thank you,
Third Email on April 10, 2021 I wrote: Any updates? Thanks
They did not reply.
Fourth Email on April 14, 2021 I wrote: Hi. You took long time?? And you did not reply my previous email!! please send me back my money if you don't have my product shipped.
They did not reply.
After two hours I decided to open a live chat via their website and here this is their reply: Your order will be shipping out either tomorrow or Friday. Once your order ships you will receive an email with tracking information.
Till today April 20, 2021 I did not get any notification about my product being shipped so I opened a live chat with them, first time they disconnected me and second time they keep the chat window open and connected but without replying all my questions at all after one hour I closed the chat window.
On April 22, 2021, I sent them two emails asking them to send me back my money and today on May 2, 2021 I got my money back.
I do not recommend this company at all to anyone, plus their videos on YouTube is comments disabled which reflect a reason of them being afraid of expecting a lot of bad press.
After updates I no longer have a home screen, Its just blank. Anyone know how th reset the box?. I have been waiting for ss to return my email for 3 days. Need to find a fix/cure
The cheap "4K Android TV" series from Walmart, built by Funai but branded as Philips, is extremely affordable and seems to be unlocked. Has anyone had any luck getting these to run alternative firmware (Lineage?) or even stock Android TV?
Mine is extremely buggy (forgets the date/time, causing HBO and other streaming apps to crash, etc) and extremely slow. Many times apps never fully exit, eating up the limited RAM available. Newer apps refuse to install from the Play Store (even though I'm able to force install them by downloading the APK) which tells me there's some sort of poorly-coded identification going on.
I was able to figure out some hardware specs:
It reports the board/device as "freesia" and the hardware/platform as "maxim" - the quad-core ARM Cortex A53 chip runs at 1400mhz (rev r0p4) and it has 1.5GB RAM and 4GB internal storage. The built-in graphics report as Mali T820 (ARM) (vulkan integrated gpu 1358996kb) running at 1920x1080.
I've updated it as far as the factory updates will go to Android 9 Pie.
I'm new to doing much with Android but I write software for a living so pretty comfortable hacking this thing if people can give me a few pointers!
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I've got a 65-inch 4K Funai/Philips Android TV. Is this TV rootable or flashable? The OS is so laggy on this device it makes it almost unbearable to use. Opening specific screens takes seconds because of all the quirky animations. I'd much rather...
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The above has users who have unlocked fastboot etc, and have achieved root through the OTA firmware
Thanks. Do you know what it would take to go beyond that? I asked on the Lineage subreddit but they basically have rules against talking about anything but official builds, so it's kind of a catch 22.
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Thanks. Do you know what it would take to go beyond that? I asked on the Lineage subreddit but they basically have rules against talking about anything but official builds, so it's kind of a catch 22.
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Lineage for TVs seems far fetched,
You’d need to find a person who’d spend their time to build a rom for your TV.
Don’t know much about ROM development
It's already been done for other devices. Here's one for Raspberry Pi https://konstakang.com/devices/rpi4/LineageOS18-ATV/
how does one get/obtain the ota firmware ? I still have an unupdated bootloader unlocked 75 inch model and would like to do some stuff with it. i have been waiting to connect it to the internet because i didn't want to be lock into or out of anything until i was ready.