really want to get an external DAC like the FiiO K1 but heard even with OTG Storage enabled One Plus Phones dont play well with these.
I am also looking at using the Razer Phone Dac adapter, as that sounded brilliant. and costs a bit less....
bump, looking to get one of these as well. Anyone?
mikey_sk said:
really want to get an external DAC like the FiiO K1 but heard even with OTG Storage enabled One Plus Phones dont play well with these.
I am also looking at using the Razer Phone Dac adapter, as that sounded brilliant. and costs a bit less....
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I got the FiiO Q1 it works well with OTG and hibby music player
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Seeing threads about USB DACs around and the recent Jelly Bean update enabling USB DAC support, I thought we could compile a list of users who have tested their DACs with the HOX. Similar to the Jelly Bean update thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967980) , we could share information on our update and the devices tested against that update.
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HBOOT?
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cccy said:
Seeing threads about USB DACs around and the recent Jelly Bean update enabling USB DAC support, I thought we could compile a list of users who have tested their DACs with the HOX. Similar to the Jelly Bean update thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967980) , we could share information on our update and the devices tested against that update.
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hi sorry for digging out old topic, but i can confirm that Fiio E07k DAC is working perfectly with HOX via usb OTG cable, cheers, InsertCoin 15.0.1, HBOOT 1.39, CID:001
Sorry.. but usb dac is portable amp for speaker or headphone right? can anyone of you give suggestion to buy it? And is it really have high advantage over normal use of headphone? Thank you.
nashshafrulrezza said:
Sorry.. but usb dac is portable amp for speaker or headphone right? can anyone of you give suggestion to buy it? And is it really have high advantage over normal use of headphone? Thank you.
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I'm using it mostly time as a portable amp form my headphones, sometimes with laptop. Is it big advantage? It really depends on headphones you are using, are they easy to drive by internal amp of the phone or not. In my case i have big difference in sound, my hox just couldn't manage to drive my AudioTechnica M-50s fully, so i bought an amp. Cheers.
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I'm using it mostly time as a portable amp form my headphones, sometimes with laptop. Is it big advantage? It really depends on headphones you are using, are they easy to drive by internal amp of the phone or not. In my case i have big difference in sound, my hox just couldn't manage to drive my AudioTechnica M-50s fully, so i bought an amp. Cheers.
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Thank you for reply.. Which mean i need semi pro or professional headphone to make it fully work? Can you suggest a good usd dac for me?
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nashshafrulrezza said:
Thank you for reply.. Which mean i need semi pro or professional headphone to make it fully work? Can you suggest a good usd dac for me?
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It's hard to say, there's two important things: first is which headphones you have or gonna buy, second which dac to buy then (there is many of them and i can't tell you which one is working with hox, that's why this topic was made for). Hopefully there will be bigger feedback from users, telling us which amps are working or not so you can pick up yours then, cheers.
where does it get the extra power from?
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where does it get the extra power from?
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They have built in battery which you can charge, so no problem with power.
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They have built in battery which you can charge, so no problem with power.
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I've seen plenty of DAC's without an internal battery but only usb-powered. You'll need an otg cable for that. I tend to use an external hdd for my tablet to watch movies down the road and I use one of those usb external batteries. Works like a charm. I myself use a DAC for my raspberry pi and it doesn't have an internal battery, do otg is yet again the way to go.
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I've seen plenty of DAC's without an internal battery but only usb-powered. You'll need an otg cable for that. I tend to use an external hdd for my tablet to watch movies down the road and I use one of those usb external batteries. Works like a charm. I myself use a DAC for my raspberry pi and it doesn't have an internal battery, do otg is yet again the way to go.
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You are right, but we are talking about amps you can use with hox, which means they must be portable, so they should have battery. Somehow can't imagine going outside with few batteries, hox and amp in my pocket cheers
Hey guys, nice to see this thread. I just want to buy a portable amplifier with my HOX. But I need your suggestion as I never use one. Currently, I have AKG 518DJ, and I think I am going to get a FiiO E7 or FiiO E11. What do you guys think? Is it worth? Thank you
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Hey guys, nice to see this thread. I just want to buy a portable amplifier with my HOX. But I need your suggestion as I never use one. Currently, I have AKG 518DJ, and I think I am going to get a FiiO E7 or FiiO E11. What do you guys think? Is it worth? Thank you
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Hi, as far i know e7 works with HOX for sure, don't know about e11, but if it does take e11, but if you'll take e7 better add few bucks and take e07k, as i see
u have akg 518dj and they are quite bassy headphones so u don't need an extra bass which e11 can deliver over e7, hopefully i could help cheers
Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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It does work with my Fiio E17. Just tried it today after almost buying an app that was supposed to do so. My only complaint is that the DAC seems to be charging while connected to the G3.
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It does work with my Fiio E17. Just tried it today after almost buying an app that was supposed to do so.
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Thanks, Jesadac! That's great news... I was hoping this was the case, as I believe the G2 also supported it.
I assume you're referring to the USB Audio Player Pro app? It truly doesn't replace the native ability to have a clean digital audio out signal for all sounds out of the phone.
I have the Fiio E18 and a friend has the VZW G3. We just tested the combo and it seems to work fine.
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Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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Just bought the new Cayin C5 DAC/Amp. My TMo LG G3 does not put audio out though the amp when connected via OTG. It registers it's connected I'm guessing because all audio is no longer played through the phone. Plugged into my friends Note 4 and it worked right away. Is this is G3 problem? We're both on Lollipop.
I know this is an old thread... but do I still need USB Audio Player Pro to get USB DAC to work? I thought Android 5.0+ brings USB audio, and right now my Beyerdynamic A100 doesn't work by "simply" plugging it in... however I do get about half second of audio and quits.
I go on LG G3 with app USB Audio Player PRO and HibyMusic app, my DAC is Hegel HD2 and DragonFly RED. Logitech USB headphones works too. with China OTG cable.
I can confirm Spotify and youtube doesn't play audio through usb (android 5.1.1), and it still mutes integrated speaker when connected:silly:. Must have usb-player i guess.
So I found a Behringer UCA202 DAC online for really cheap and thought why not try it just for fun. Everything I've read says having one can help a bit and I figured at the least it would sound the same, but I plugged it into my Nexus 5 via OTG then plugged the AUX cord to my Jeep into the DAC and all bass and pretty much any other level of detail is gone from my music whether it's from Pandora, YouTube HD, or FLAC audio files. Audio sound quality is equal to listening to music over old mono bluetooth, you hear it fine but any highs and lows are removed. Has anyone else used this DAC that could give some suggestions?
Otherwise it's just as I assumed, DACs are pointless on good quality phones and that's why I can't find any DAC threads with the Nexus 5 involved.
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So I found a Behringer UCA202 DAC online for really cheap and thought why not try it just for fun. Everything I've read says having one can help a bit and I figured at the least it would sound the same, but I plugged it into my Nexus 5 via OTG then plugged the AUX cord to my Jeep into the DAC and all bass and pretty much any other level of detail is gone from my music whether it's from Pandora, YouTube HD, or FLAC audio files. Audio sound quality is equal to listening to music over old mono bluetooth, you hear it fine but any highs and lows are removed. Has anyone else used this DAC that could give some suggestions?
Otherwise it's just as I assumed, DACs are pointless on good quality phones and that's why I can't find any DAC threads with the Nexus 5 involved.
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Ummm, it's not a DAC. It's an interface.
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Ummm, it's not a DAC. It's an interface.
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Yes, with a DAC in it. You need a DAC to get audio output through USB, there is no analog audio output through USB/USB OTG...
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Yes, with a DAC in it. You need a DAC to get audio output through USB, there is no analog audio output through USB/USB OTG...
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Yes it has a DAC but it's not meant as a stand alone DAC. It's an interface or soundcard. Does your phone have enough juice to even operate the thing? Also for a device that sells for less than 30 bucks what exactly where you expecting? Get a real DAC. You will notice a huge difference. Until then do some more research on what you have and see if your meeting it's power requirements.
This is actually a pretty good review of the unit with lots of technical info.
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.html
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Yes it has a DAC but it's not meant as a stand alone DAC. It's an interface or soundcard. Does your phone have enough juice to even operate the thing? Also for a device that sells for less than 30 bucks what exactly where you expecting? Get a real DAC. You will notice a huge difference. Until then do some more research on what you have and see if your meeting it's power requirements.
This is actually a pretty good review of the unit with lots of technical info.
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.html
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While I can't see power being an issue I suppose I'll test with my Nexus 7 and laptop. I know it's a cheap DAC but I've read many reviews using this DAC with tablets and phones for car audio, along with the nwavguy in-depth review and testing showing how it's not a multi-hundred dollar unit but still does amazingly well. My issue is it doesn't even sound decent. It sounds like I'm playing rap/hip-hop through an old Nokia on speaker phone, you can hear it clearly but there's no depth.
So I tossed this DAC in a closet after I got bored of trying to make it work right and forgot about it for a year or so till earlier today when I found it while cleaning. My Nexus 5 has been retired and serves no purpose other than a security camera now. I now have a Samsung Galaxy S5 and an RCA Maven Pro tablet. The RCA Maven Pro is an 11.1inch 2-in-1 Android tablet with detachable keyboard for around $120. You'd assume it's horrible thanks to the brand and price but they managed to cut corners in all the right places it seems. Downsides are no GPS, 1GB of RAM, terrible cameras, and a horrible speaker. Other than that it has faithfully replaced my $1200 laptop with zero issues other than adjusting to ditching Windows.
Now back on track when I listen to music I'm either using an aux cord plugged into my work truck or bluetooth when using headphones or in my new car. When doing a side by side comparison bluetooth, to no surprise, shows no difference between my Maven and S5. However when using an aux cord the RCA doesn't put out as much bass and highs are... I guess not as clear? I think audiophiles are insane most of the time so it's hard for me to describe when I do notice a difference. Anyways I plugged the UCA202 into the RCA's USB port (no OTG here, it has a full size USB port) and plugged my Sony MDR-XB950BT headphones in to it with an aux cord (these headphones are 100% passive when wired, no bass boost or other enhancements) and sound quality is just as great as my S5, all bass and highs are restored. Just to further the test I plugged it into my S5 and did the same test with the same results. These are the same FLAC song files from the same network location that my Nexus 5 was playing a year ago.
The whole time the issue was something in my Nexus 5. What it was I don't know and sorry you guys I don't plan on investigating, I just wanted to inform everyone that the Behringer UCA202 is in fact a quality budget DAC since this thread is a top Google result for "Behringer UCA202 Android". If you have a cheap device that you want the audio to be on par with the high end phones this will do it, and for my original purpose of at the same time giving a bit of amplification for a weak head unit without distortion it does that decently too. To finish this off I am NOT an audiophile. Just a human with human hearing that likes songs with bass on car head units that weren't always designed for it (I glued a 80mm CPU fan to the back of the HU in my Jeep ) So take my finer details however you'd like.
the DAC works great for my Nexus 7 2013 model.
maybe otg cable is sh1tty
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Hi, I've found that the headphone output of this phone, while good for some headphones, has too much noise for sensitive IEMs and not enough power for some less efficient headphones, so I'm looking into a portable DAC/Amp. I tried this one with a USB-C adapter:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJSEAZ4
But it didn't work. I know the USB-C adapter works, as I've used it with a thumb drive, and I know the DAC works on other Android devices, but apparently compatibility isn't universal. So has anyone successfully tried a portable DAC with this phone?
My Fiio Q1 works fine with the phone.
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My Fiio Q1 works fine with the phone.
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Thanks, that's good to hear. I was considering one of Fiio's products
I tried this one: http://hifimediy.com/android-dac
Works very well together with an USB B to C converter that supports USB OTG and drove even my good old 600 Ohm AKG K 141 loud enough!
It has a Sabre DAC. Bought it out of concern that the sound of the phone might not be good enough. But it is - at least with low impedance headphones like my Ultimate Ears UE 10 TF I don't find a difference to the 180 $ sony walkman of my GF.
(Small remark: Used a Samsung USB B to C converter first. This one, while doing very well on the PC and with ADB and also with the charger did not work as OTG adaptor.)
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I tried this one: http://hifimediy.com/android-dac
Works very well together with an USB B to C converter that supports USB OTG and drove even my good old 600 Ohm AKG K 141 loud enough!
It has a Sabre DAC. Bought it out of concern that the sound of the phone might not be good enough. But it is - at least with low impedance headphones like my Ultimate Ears UE 10 TF I don't find a difference to the 180 $ sony walkman of my GF.
(Small remark: Used a Samsung USB B to C converter first. This one, while doing very well on the PC and with ADB and also with the charger did not work as OTG adaptor.)
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Weird, that's the exact one I tried that didn't work. Maybe I needed a different USB-C OTG adapter
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Weird, that's the exact one I tried that didn't work. Maybe I needed a different USB-C OTG adapter
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For sure. It works for me without problems - plug and play.
I use this adaptor: http://www.delock.com/produkte/G_65678/merkmale.html
Side note: While I could use the Samsung adaptor for charging (but not for OTG devices) this one works well for OTG - but not for charging.
Edit: The price for te DAC on the amazon side is way higher than if you buy directly from the Hifimediy website.
And you should also note, that this DAC while it's pretty good for higher impedance phones did not work well with my low (32 ohm) impedance IEM's. But for those I found no need to use the DAC.
I ended up with a Fiio E18, I like the fact that it has playback control, plus B&H has it on sale right now. It doesn't seem to work with Poweramp, but it works perfectly with USB Audio Player PRO.
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I ended up with a Fiio E18, I like the fact that it has playback control, plus B&H has it on sale right now. It doesn't seem to work with Poweramp, but it works perfectly with USB Audio Player PRO.
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Will USB Audio Player read OTG storage?
Most file explorers do not see mnt/media_rw/0EB0-0FF. Do any players?
Quick, and hopefully not too stupid, question, do I need to root the phone to get the DAC working with Google Play Music?
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Quick, and hopefully not too stupid, question, do I need to root the phone to get the DAC working with Google Play Music?
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Gpm will not pcm to a dac.
Need USBAPP
NO ROOT
Has anyone managed to get a USB dac working without using UAP pro?
I have a Hidizs S3 that works perfectly through UAP pro, unfortunately my current music streaming service (Amazon music HD) isn't supported by UAP.
If I use the dac without going through UAP it is just used as a dumb extension cable and the dac isn't used.
Many thanks for any suggestions.
I tried, but sound quality is just not good without UAP.
I am rooted with Viper4Android
Thanks, stupidly I upgraded to this phone thinking it would be a step up in sound quality. It wasn't. So I bought a USB dac. That doesn't work properly ?