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When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?

Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺

Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.

Yup my other phone is iphone 5 and its sh*t compered to g3 my mother huawei g300 that is just ridiculous

Agreed, even the 1080 phones look quite quite grainy. The sharpening and variable quality screens ruin the G3 display though.

helikido said:
When I use my friends iPhones or any 720p phones they look very grainy to me. Is it just me or is it because I have gotten used to the QHD display on my G3? I used to think the iPhone screen size was ok...now when I use it it's like a toy, and I have a hard time navigating the screen ?
Also whenever I use the S4 it definitely feels a little more grainy after you get used to the QHD panel. Is anyone else seeing those sideffects. I think my perception quality expectations is out of the roof now...makes me wonder how people claim that a iPhone PPI is more than enough ?
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Yes my friend is like riding mule after horse.

My MotoG display still looks great though.

ChrisM75 said:
Frankly even some 720P phones make the iPhone look grainy, the iPhone is one of the lowest DPI phones you can still buy, it doesn't qualify as HD by any definition.
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I know it makes me think what the hell are the iPhone fans thinking when they say that 300 PPI is more than enough or 1080p is unnecessary. Even the New iPhone 6 4.7 and 5.5 inch models won't have FHD. Totally will look grainy for sure.
Fir3blade said:
Same here, every smartphone I am looking at looks kinda grainy, it's hard to describe...
The display of my mother in laws Galaxy core something with it's 800x480 4,3" display looks like a crossword puzzle ☺
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Lol I could spot every pixel on my vibrant with ease. It has a 800×480 resolution too and it's super amoled to make it worse lol
trent999 said:
My MotoG display still looks great though.
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Well yeah, I'm just talking about graininess

Not just you, I also have a Moto X and that screen just screams of pixelation.

I'm starting to see old image assets showing their true low definition in apps, live wallpapers, games ect. Luckyily this isnt a 4k phone or it might be more noticable, as is things will only improve for 2k and 4k as time progresses. I can really tell text has lost the jagged edges it had with my old 720p phone which is nice.
Wanted to add it will be strange seeing mobile devices pushing uhd more than most, remember the image quality android and ois started with?

You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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jetsetwilly said:
You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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and by plastic are you refering to the anti-glare ones because they definately make a screen look grainy

jetsetwilly said:
You sure you're not looking at the S4 with one of those plastic screen protectors on?
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I use tempered glass. So does my other friend. The pentile matrix makes it more noticible.
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I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3

grifter9931 said:
I have a g2 and an S4 in my framily and they both look okay when compared to my G3
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Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.

helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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grifter9931 said:
When I say they look okay, I mean they look okay... Not fantastic or anything. I personally like the lg g3 display. It doesn't have that saturated look that Apple pushes with almost all of their displays.
It's more like a Eizo or Ben-q monitor. I guess you just have to work on them for period of time to appreciate it..
Some folks will dislike the output and some will make the necessary color adjustments to the device. I have colleagues who have looked at footage or hi res pictures on my device and they like the output..
YMMV
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The S4 and G2 displays are sti some very nice displays buddy. R2member they are still 1080p display.
With the galaxy s series phones you can calibrate the screen really good. On my issue is screen burn in.

The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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grifter9931 said:
The g2 to me is an okay display. The s4,wasn't something I cared for display wise. I still have my G2. I never noticed screen burn in with my g2
I tried using my calibrator on my g2 and I failed!!
When the new devices drop, it will be the same issues. The iPhone will have glue issues like they always. People will complain about the note 4 display until a few updates come out, and people will talk about the moto's radio more than anything else. The N6 will be buttery smooth , and that will be the sticking point for most with each particular device..
Power consumption concerning the higher end displays will be interesting with these devices..
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What's also interesting will be if these displays actually change after being used for a while. My tv needed X amount of burn in time before the calibrator came out and to my place and did some adjustments to the tv.
If anyone can expound on if that is the case with these displays that would be interesting to get some source material on and read up on the subject.
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LCD displays do in fact cure over time. They just like everything else typically take time to burn in.

helikido said:
Yeah they look perfectly fine bro.
Now what has me tripping is how can LG put a qhd resolution on the LG Stylus. That is such a 2010 resolution. I can't imagine what kind of PPi and grainy experience one would have.
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Cost, cost, cost.....

Clarity/resolution

The OnePlus 3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

The display is definitely better than what weve had on the previous OnePlus phones. I did find the color saturation a bit weird coming from the LCD of the OnePlus One to the OAMOLED of the OP3, but it's a pretty beautiful display to look at.

I haven't been able to compare with another AMOLED screen, but compared to my LG G3 at full brightness, the OnePlus 3 screen colours doesn't seem as vibrant as an AMOLED screen should be. One other thing is that I've been so used to QHD on the G3, I can really notice the drop back to HD. Nonetheless, the OnePlus 3 is bang for buck no matter which way you look at it.

I just have one word. Gorgeous.

The display is sharp enough, bright enough and the color saturation is good. And definetly better than previous OP screens

kinnyfaifai said:
I haven't been able to compare with another AMOLED screen, but compared to my LG G3 at full brightness, the OnePlus 3 screen colours doesn't seem as vibrant as an AMOLED screen should be. One other thing is that I've been so used to QHD on the G3, I can really notice the drop back to HD. Nonetheless, the OnePlus 3 is bang for buck no matter which way you look at it.
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You notice because it has PenTile arrangement, not because it's FHD.

I've gotten used to it now, the screen is still quite amazing on the OP3. Tbh, I've always found it funny how phone manufacturers are sucked into the res race given some of the drawbacks of pushing a larger amount of pixels.

I'm moving from my Moto X (2014) to OP3, and trust me the white balance is WAY off towards the blue end. I read a review which did display tests on both the AMOLEDs of X and OP3, and apart from the white balance, OP3 has a slightly better screen and/or screen calibration than the X (which is 2 years old).
Overall I still find it blue after I switch from the X, but it's a beautiful screen nonetheless.

Soumitra.5693 said:
I'm moving from my Moto X (2014) to OP3, and trust me the white balance is WAY off towards the blue end. I read a review which did display tests on both the AMOLEDs of X and OP3, and apart from the white balance, OP3 has a slightly better screen and/or screen calibration than the X (which is 2 years old).
Overall I still find it blue after I switch from the X, but it's a beautiful screen nonetheless.
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Just got mine, haven't even turned it on yet, but AFAIK (from reviews) white balance is adjustable in the settings. Play around with the slider if it looks too blueish to you.

Explorer23 said:
Just got mine, haven't even turned it on yet, but AFAIK (from reviews) white balance is adjustable in the settings. Play around with the slider if it looks too blueish to you.
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Yep, thanks! Did that but forgot to mention. Though be careful when you change the slider, there's no reset option in case you want it as it came (not a biggie but a reset option would've been helpful).
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Text on my phone looks blurry and more like a 720p screen, particularly visible in landscape.
I've applied for a replacement. Let me see how that turns out to be.

edios123 said:
Text on my phone looks blurry and more like a 720p screen, particularly visible in landscape.
I've applied for a replacement. Let me see how that turns out to be.
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That's going to be the downfall of pentile. (The pixel arrangement of the screen) I don't think you have a bad display.
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robstunner said:
That's going to be the downfall of pentile. (The pixel arrangement of the screen) I don't think you have a bad display.
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That's a bummer. Didn't know it'd turn out this bad.
I really hope I had a defective piece though. Text looks really bad on it. It ruins the experience of using a premium phone.
Guess I'm really bothered by it because my previous phones were the 6P and Note 4 and I use a retina MacBook Pro; all three had/have excellent displays).

I was very worried about the display when I have heard many saying that it is not sharp due to the pentile arrangement.
Just got mine few hours ago, and here is my personal opinion:
The display looked sharp and crisp, the pentile matrix is hardly visible unless you look at the screen very closely, but under normal usage distance, the display is excellent.
It is true that true resolution on any pentile display is less than the ideal, and this artcile explains it: https://medium.com/@suyashsrijan/1080p-pentile-is-not-true-1080p-9951b9e5c2ee#.w8v3hh7vz
According to it, the effective resolution becomes 326ppi rather than 401ppi.
FYI, resolution of iphone 6s is also 326ppi.

To me the screen of OP3 is way better than the OP2. Everything just looks nice. My OP2 was calibrated with kcal and OP3 has similar calibration. Only the dark grey is a little on the blue/green side.

Disappointed with pixelation caused by the PenTile matrix. Sure, the display is great (much more vibrant and brighter than my outgoing iPhone 6 Plus) but with my perfect near vision small text and edges of icons etc all appear slightly jagged. From a normal distance it's not too bothersome but I can always see it. The 1080p RGB matrix panel on the iPhone appears instantly sharper in comparison but I still wouldn't say its a match as the colour, contrast and brightness are all far better on the OP3.

Resolution is too low for VR, but for everyday tasks is perfect.

I am hesitating to buy a 1+3 device mainly for the mixed comments about screen/display quality.
Can any owner of 1+3 post some pictures of any classical webpage (bbc, cnn, xda, ...) magnified gradually, up to the maximum (125%, 150%, ..., 300%, ..)?
Thanks

Ive been using the G3, and i dont care what anyone says, there is a huge difference between 1080 and 1440. The text looks smudged. However I cant stream Youtube nor Anime at 720p or higher anywas so it wont matter for me.
Still on the fence of buying it.

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Ive been using the G3, and i dont care what anyone says, there is a huge difference between 1080 and 1440. The text looks smudged. However I cant stream Youtube nor Anime at 720p or higher anywas so it wont matter for me.
Still on the fence of buying it.
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If you don't like it's most visible part, then why consider buying it?

Does the display suck this much?

Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone

It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.

m.denb said:
It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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Actually I do plan on using VR but it's not that big of a deal

Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.

m.denb said:
Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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I care about everyday usage (being fast),normal media consumption (like watching videos or using Spotify) more than VR really and I really care about the camera

memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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I have s7 edge and OP 3 both.. I don't feel OP 3 has bad display! it might not be as good as S7 edge.. but definitely it's not pathetic display. It's very good display for day to day usage..

The display on the OnePlus 3 is pretty awesome, far better than on my One M9 for example. It may not be the best on the market but it surely isn't bad and it is far from sucking, lol.

At medium or high brightness with sRGB mode the display is great. Look really closely and you can see that it isn't perfectly sharp, but it is nonetheless FHD and you shouldn't be looking at your phone with a viewing distance of 5 cm anyway. Normal viewing distances are fine.
The minimum brightness is a bit problematic: if you turn it down all the way the dark colours seem to become actual black, so it becomes harder to see things.
Calling the display trash is surely an overstatement. It's viewing angles, blacks, minimum/maximum brightness, colour accuracy, resolution and pixel density are good to excellent. It's definitely not the best display you can get, but it's far from being terrible.

memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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The people that say the display sucks are people that don't have the phone. I have a nexus 6p and OP 3 and I couldn't tell a difference between the screen resolution of both. Not even when I'm playing game. 1080p is easily rectifiable compared to 720p, 2k is not that much from 1080p unless you're looking at small text from 3 inches.
The colors on the default mode are over saturated and are a bit over the top but majority of casual users like it more. The display on sRGB is one of the best displays on the market. It's so pleasing to the eyes, it's almost 100% accurate yet the blacks are deep. My nexus 6p has almost as good display on sRGB but it has started to suffer from screen burn because of navigation bar.

I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.

It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it

What do you guys think about the zte axon 7?

I think its a phone made by a chinese manufacturer that has metal in its build.

memo45 said:
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.

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It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.

khaos64 said:
Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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IF it's better than an iphone 6 screen then I'm sold ?

singlebyte said:
Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
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I have seen a review that I could actually see the pixels on oneplus 3 screen's on video,hope it's the camera he was recording with

Not at all, it's pretty good if you do some necessary tweaks. Personally, I'm using Sultan ROM with sRGB mode (Photography mode) and the following calibrations: Red 93%, Green 87%, Blue 100%, Saturation 6%, Intensity 8. It looks great, natural colors, slightly saturated so they don't look too washed, and AMOLED black. I'm quite happy, honestly.

Daemos said:
I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
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So you recommend op3?
I have a g3. I don't want to give up ir blaster sd card or removable batteries. Plus glass screen protector with no issues. But night time use with that AMOLED is nice. I don't like how it doesn't have multiwindow nor one handed view like my g3.
Hopefully it gets nougat quickly. I'll see how the Pixel XL is but if it's $750+ I'm not paying double. The OP 3 is a beast. I'll only consider the Google phone if it's $600. Which it won't be so hopefully I get a OnePlus 3 without screen uniformity issue this time.

I have galaxy note5.. and I can't tell the deference side by side by sharpness.. I can only notice some changing in color. But as I use sRGB on OP3 and basic on GN5 I cant tell any difference!!
Oh maybe the dpi.. but i change it on my op3 to be like gn5...

5t screen resolution compared to today's flagships. Is it good enough?

Hello everyone.
In considering the Oneplus 5t as a replacement to my good old Samsung note 4, especially for the price compared to today's flashships.
One of the main factors when I chose any device is the screen quality. I understand the 5t scores really high in this sector, but I'm worried about the resolution and screen DPI.
My note 4 and all today's flagships have higher resolutions, and I'm wondering if anyone has compared the 5t screen with other devices and can notice any real difference in daily life, mainly while browsing pictures were pixels become more evident.
I considered the Note 8 and LG v30, but I really can't stand those curved edges, and I don't need a pen since I don't use the one on my note 4.
Thanks!!

KamaL said:
Hello everyone.
In considering the Oneplus 5t as a replacement to my good old Samsung note 4, especially for the price compared to today's flagships.
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I upgraded from the Note 4 to the OP3T and then the 5T. My decision was based on easy root and Dev community. I cannot notice a significant difference in screen resolution (if you look at TV resolution guides you'll see that you need to be insanely close to the screen to notice on something as small as a phone). OnePlus allows you to manually adjust the DPI to suit your preference so you can have tiny icons and such. I love this phone compared to my Note 4. Way snappier and no slow down from TW.
I personally have never thought "this screen would be better if it was 4k". But Samsung's infinity display is definitely a better display if that is your only concern.

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I upgraded from the Note 4 to the OP3T and then the 5T. My decision was based on easy root and Dev community. I cannot notice a significant difference in screen resolution (if you look at TV resolution guides you'll see that you need to be insanely close to the screen to notice on something as small as a phone). OnePlus allows you to manually adjust the DPI to suit your preference so you can have tiny icons and such. I love this phone compared to my Note 4. Way snappier and no slow down from TW.
I personally have never thought "this screen would be better if it was 4k". But Samsung's infinity display is definitely a better display if that is your only concern.
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Thanks for the reply.
Since you had a note 4, how would you compare the screen with the 5t one? Would you consider the 5t an upgrade in terms of quality, color accuracy, brightness, watching angles etc?
Also, is the 5t camera overall an upgrade compared to the note 4?
Thanks

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Thanks for the reply.
Since you had a note 4, how would you compare the screen with the 5t one? Would you consider the 5t an upgrade in terms of quality, color accuracy, brightness, watching angles etc?
Also, is the 5t camera overall an upgrade compared to the note 4?
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Full disclosure I didn't use the camera on the Note 4 all that much, but looking through the pictures that I took with it the OP5T seems to take much better pictures. The portrait mode is also great to have.
As for the screen, I personally don't notice a difference in quality. Small text still has clearly defined edges that I can see. I don't use my phone for VR so I can't comment there. I really like the colors on the display and didn't notice any significant color difference between the two, but this is subjective. It is plenty bright and I think that might be an upgrade from the Note 4 as I seem to recall having to manually adjust the brightness to actually see it whenever I stepped outside and still having some issues. Viewing angles are also great with this phone. I don't have any color shift unless it's a pretty extreme angle.
The one thing the screen has going for it is it's size and lack of bezels, which I really love. Other than that I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a significant difference between the two unless you looked really closely or had special equipment. So not really an upgrade in screen quality, but definitely not a downgrade. The rest of the phone is a huge improvement though. Way faster to use and a much better update schedule.

shadeau said:
Full disclosure I didn't use the camera on the Note 4 all that much, but looking through the pictures that I took with it the OP5T seems to take much better pictures. The portrait mode is also great to have.
As for the screen, I personally don't notice a difference in quality. Small text still has clearly defined edges that I can see. I don't use my phone for VR so I can't comment there. I really like the colors on the display and didn't notice any significant color difference between the two, but this is subjective. It is plenty bright and I think that might be an upgrade from the Note 4 as I seem to recall having to manually adjust the brightness to actually see it whenever I stepped outside and still having some issues. Viewing angles are also great with this phone. I don't have any color shift unless it's a pretty extreme angle.
The one thing the screen has going for it is it's size and lack of bezels, which I really love. Other than that I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a significant difference between the two unless you looked really closely or had special equipment. So not really an upgrade in screen quality, but definitely not a downgrade. The rest of the phone is a huge improvement though. Way faster to use and a much better update schedule.
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Thanks . Such a reply is much better than any review on the net, as you gave real life experience.
I'm really satisfied with the Note 4 display, and if this isn't a downgrade, that's grade. Being with much less bezels and overall lighter is a huge plus too.

I'm a Note 4 to 3T and now 5T convert.
Updates aren't an issue with OP, they're doing a fine job now. If I had to complain, and I don't need to, it's the security updates are always behind.
I don't have the issues that a lot of others are having. I also don't have a lot of crap apps on my phone. 100% stock with dark theme, BT always on, brightness between half and 3/4 and I'm averaging 1.25 day of battery and 8hrs of SOT.
In regards to the screen, it's made by Samsung. I'm surprised at how easy it was to adjust to. Choose your preset or customize it and run with it.
Camera, hmm, it's good but not as good as the Note 4 in low lighting. Once you get to know how to use the camera, other pics come out quite nicely. Most of the pics I take are of circuit boards and car parts.
Audio, unfortunately I'm hearing impaired so I try not to comment on it. I will say that it seems like every other update the volume output changes either up or down. I notice this when I'm connected via BT to my cars radio.
I can't walk and chew gum so I'm not a VR user.

Hellz yeah it is. It's excellent and it's even better than some QHD displays out there like the G6.
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I honestly wouldn't worry about the screen resolution, it's fine, honest. On the plus side, the HD+ screen means the GPU has less pixels to push around.
My best advice would be to compare it side by side with other devices in the flesh if you can, that way you can see if you like the colour tone of the screen. I've spent several years using a succession of cheap devices bought directly from China. All of them have had LCD screens rather than AMOLED. I'm finding it very hard to get used to the screen because it looks so yellow whenever looking at anything white. If you want accurate colours (reds and blues accurate) you need to have the screen set to sRGB or DCI P3 and with either of those options whites look very yellow indeed. I've compared my phone to two other 5ts now and they have all been the same. I think I'm gradually getting used to it, but I've had to set the screen colour to 'custom' and as cool possible to get anywhere close to acceptable whites. The downside of this is it comes with very oversaturated reds. When comparing the 5t to the panels on the S8+ and Note, they seem whiter and generally a better panel.
Having said all this, I'm happy with the device in most ways and the resolution is basically fine for me.

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When comparing the 5t to the panels on the S8+ and Note, they seem whiter and generally a better panel.
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I actually find that the Samsung panels that I've been looking at (S8/Note 8/S7) have been generally the same as the 5T as far as whites go (very good), but the S8/Note 8 tends to have reddish whites and the S7 had a greenish white. The 5T was much better.

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I actually find that the Samsung panels that I've been looking at (S8/Note 8/S7) have been generally the same as the 5T as far as whites go (very good), but the S8/Note 8 tends to have reddish whites and the S7 had a greenish white. The 5T was much better.
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That's interesting, I wonder if the type of lighting makes a difference? In the shop where I compared them my eyes honestly thought the Samsungs had more pop AND better colours. Their whites were closest to the LCD screen on my old Xiaomi Redmi Note 2. I also felt that the middle range Samsung's had all the same 'issues' as my 5t, i.e. a bit yellow when displaying white backgrounds, and very over saturated reds that look almost scarlet or florescent. I guess it must come down to what each person is used to and how they perceive colour? I'm gradually getting used to the 5t and I really like how it looks when playing a game. Doom 3 looks really lovely on it

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That's interesting, I wonder if the type of lighting makes a difference? In the shop where I compared them my eyes honestly thought the Samsungs had more pop AND better colours. Their whites were closest to the LCD screen on my old Xiaomi Redmi Note 2. I also felt that the middle range Samsung's had all the same 'issues' as my 5t, i.e. a bit yellow when displaying white backgrounds, and very over saturated reds that look almost scarlet or florescent. I guess it must come down to what each person is used to and how they perceive colour? I'm gradually getting used to the 5t and I really like how it looks when playing a game. Doom 3 looks really lovely on it
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I think there are a lot of factors going on. Lighting, personal perception, etc.

I went from the original Oneplus One to the Nexus 6P and now to the 5T. At first, I was also a bit worried that the display on the 5T would be less sharp compared to the 6P, due to the difference in DPI. But when I got the 5T, I could hardly tell the difference. The display was just as good and even brighter and vivid.

Although OP5T screen is beautiful perfect, But if screen is still a concern, LG V30 is a way to go.
I guess only difference is resolution...Pixel counts.

gotshoaib said:
Although OP5T screen is beautiful perfect, But if screen is still a concern, LG V30 is a way to go.
I guess only difference is resolution...Pixel counts.
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Uhm, no.
The V30 has one of the worst screens of all current (flagship) phones.
The one in the 5T is way, way better.

In direct comparison with the S8 I can tell the difference. But its not to great. Colors and everything else are really similar. Unless you use it for VR its very ok in my opinion.

Pfeffernuss said:
Uhm, no.
The V30 has one of the worst screens of all current (flagship) phones.
The one in the 5T is way, way better.
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Can confirm. Had a pixel 2 xl for a few weeks (same LG POLED panel). Brightness uniformity is horrible and whites are very grainy. Don't miss anything about that display.

Is it worth to upgrade from Huawei Mate 9 to OnePlus 5T?

Hello,
I currently have a Huawei Mate 9 and I'm thinking take the Snapdragon 835 bandwagon.
Three devices were on my list, but 2 are almost discarded.
- Mi Mix 2. Design is great, but average camera and too dim screen are a no go.
- Razer Phone. I would love that 120Hz screen (I own a high refresh rate monitor and love it), but the screen is just 5.7", I like M9's 5.9", but I think the ideal for me is around 6.0"- 6.5".
So, I'm left with 5T, which I think is a overall great phone, but for those who came from Huawei Mate 9, is it really an upgrade? Does it really fully replaces a Mate 9?
I like M9's size and form factor, camera is very good, and I think that its bright and colorfull IPS LCD display to be very good.
But I do miss having a SD 835 powered Smartphone.

I really like my Mate 9 when I had it, good battery life, no lag... Only reason for my switch was EMUI updates and no persistent notifications on lockscreen.

lexi250 said:
I really like my Mate 9 when I had it, good battery life, no lag... Only reason for my switch was EMUI updates and no persistent notifications on lockscreen.
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Now that you moved to 5T, do you miss anything from Mate 9?

Take note that the mate 9 does get treble support while the OP5T won't. Also remember that aspect ratios are important when talking about screen area, where the mate 9 has a much bigger surface than the 5T due to its aspect ratio even if they have the same diagonal length.
The 5T is a really good phone nevertheless, but I am not sure how much of an upgrade it is in other quality of life departments it could be.

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Now that you moved to 5T, do you miss anything from Mate 9?
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IR blaster, and 16:9.
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cam over from a mate 9 and mate 10
only reason for the change was development support.
5T seems to have a strong dev team going, the mate 9 and 10 dont have any real development going on

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IR blaster, and 16:9.
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What is wrong with 18:9? Is the phone physically too narrow/tall or are the black bars that bothers you?

superandroid2011 said:
Hello,
I currently have a Huawei Mate 9 and I'm thinking take the Snapdragon 835 bandwagon.
Three devices were on my list, but 2 are almost discarded.
- Mi Mix 2. Design is great, but average camera and too dim screen are a no go.
- Razer Phone. I would love that 120Hz screen (I own a high refresh rate monitor and love it), but the screen is just 5.7", I like M9's 5.9", but I think the ideal for me is around 6.0"- 6.5".
So, I'm left with 5T, which I think is a overall great phone, but for those who came from Huawei Mate 9, is it really an upgrade? Does it really fully replaces a Mate 9?
I like M9's size and form factor, camera is very good, and I think that its bright and colorfull IPS LCD display to be very good.
But I do miss having a SD 835 powered Smartphone.
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I have both Mate 9 and oneplus 5t now. I like mate 9 for the aspect ratio 16:9 and the SD card. I like the development of the oneplus 5t. If I have to keep one I will choose mate 9.

superandroid2011 said:
What is wrong with 18:9? Is the phone physically too narrow/tall or are the black bars that bothers you?
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Nothing is wrong with 18:9, just preferred 16:9 for gaming and web browsing. The frequent software update and near pure Android experiences makes up for the IR blaster for TV and screen aspect ratio. The SD835 is enough to convince you to change phones.

Snapdragon 845 is around the corner.

I just came from having a Huawei Mate 8 and had it for two years works perfectly and was a great phone. I loved the size and form factor and had the same problem I couldn't find anything to upgrade to. I think there's too little development for Huawei. My Mate 8 was still running Android 6. I did find the battery and screen on time better on the Huawei. Thought the screen size on the 5t is smaller and more narrow I actually much rather the feel in the hand and how compact it is in the pocket etc. I was in the same situation I wanted something with a headphone jack, decent screen size and battery that could put custom roms on, so went for the OnePlus 5t in the end.
Just think the power settings on Huawei are better being able to prevent apps from running at all while not in use is good as the battery life I'm getting is pretty poor. I could get two days out of the Mate 8 and would only just get one day from the 5t. Without being able to stop apps properly the battery just drains with hardly any use.

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Snapdragon 845 is around the corner.
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And NOBODY will notice any advantages over the SD835...

[email protected] said:
I have both Mate 9 and oneplus 5t now. I like mate 9 for the aspect ratio 16:9 and the SD card. I like the development of the oneplus 5t. If I have to keep one I will choose mate 9.
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Thanks for the replies so far.
Reading all the posts, looks like 5T is a small step up from Mate 9 generally speaking. There are goodies (eg. development) and compromises (eg. 18:9).
I'll try a 5T if I find a used one for a good price.

superandroid2011 said:
Thanks for the replies so far.
Reading all the posts, looks like 5T is a small step up from Mate 9 generally speaking. There are goodies (eg. development) and compromises (eg. 18:9).
I'll try a 5T if I find a used one for a good price.
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Most flagships from 2016 will not be a big leap to the 5T. I think you have to look at all the unique offerings of the 5T to see if you think it would be a good fit for you.
Some people cannot live without beautiful AMOLED screens. And the dev support on the OnePlus phones is top notch.
Some people hate 18:9 aspect ratios. And can't stand proprietary charging methods (even if they are faster than any other phone).

xocomaox said:
Most flagships from 2016 will not be a big leap to the 5T. I think you have to look at all the unique offerings of the 5T to see if you think it would be a good fit for you.
Some people cannot live without beautiful AMOLED screens. And the dev support on the OnePlus phones is top notch.
Some people hate 18:9 aspect ratios. And can't stand proprietary charging methods (even if they are faster than any other phone).
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Makes sense.
AMOLED screens:
Personally, by a small margin, I preffer good IPS LCD over Amoled as I'm more sensitive to poor whites on Amoled (where they are actually a gray shade on Amoled) than its deep Blacks (where they are a gray shade on IPS LCD). In both cases you get used to the display weakness and will just really see that difference when comparing side by side.
Dev Support:
Its nice to have a active community, but I'm not too much anymore on ROMs and etc, EMUI is good for me. But for the 5T, ROMs are really good because I think Pure Android is fast, really fast, but lacks a few things, so good ROMs fill in the gap.
18:9 aspect ratio:
I'm really used to 16:9 and I think they should not have changed it for a while, but I'm willing to try it these new options.
Proprietary charging methods:
Not a con for me, as I normally only charge my phones once a day, and never a original charger has failed or broke in my hands.

superandroid2011 said:
AMOLED screens:
Personally, by a small margin, I preffer good IPS LCD over Amoled as I'm more sensitive to poor whites on Amoled (where they are actually a gray shade on Amoled) than its deep Blacks (where they are a gray shade on IPS LCD). In both cases you get used to the display weakness and will just really see that difference when comparing side by side.
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I know what you mean. But the color reproduction on Samsung's screens are fantastic, and the brightness is far better on AMOLED screens than on LCD, simply because of how the technology is used in real-world situations.

davoidd said:
I just came from having a Huawei Mate 8 and had it for two years works perfectly and was a great phone. I loved the size and form factor and had the same problem I couldn't find anything to upgrade to. I think there's too little development for Huawei. My Mate 8 was still running Android 6. I did find the battery and screen on time better on the Huawei. Thought the screen size on the 5t is smaller and more narrow I actually much rather the feel in the hand and how compact it is in the pocket etc. I was in the same situation I wanted something with a headphone jack, decent screen size and battery that could put custom roms on, so went for the OnePlus 5t in the end.
Just think the power settings on Huawei are better being able to prevent apps from running at all while not in use is good as the battery life I'm getting is pretty poor. I could get two days out of the Mate 8 and would only just get one day from the 5t. Without being able to stop apps properly the battery just drains with hardly any use.
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I still have my Mate 8 in addition to my 5T. A year ago, I was desperate for a new toy so I was looking at the Mate 8 and 9, and decided to get the 8. The 5T and Mate 8 are very different devices that they complement each other and I love both. But development was limited for the Mate 8 but I was able to get KangVIP ROM & black pyramid theme running on it which is cool. Mate 8 by far the hardest phone I've had for rooting/flashing. Soft bricked that thing more times than all my other devices alone.
I prefer the aspect ratio of the Mate 8, but the 5T is compact and sleek. Oneplus is just so much more robust development wise, which is why I went with the 5T. :good:

xocomaox said:
I know what you mean. But the color reproduction on Samsung's screens are fantastic, and the brightness is far better on AMOLED screens than on LCD, simply because of how the technology is used in real-world situations.
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I like Amoled (had samsung galaxies from 1 to 4) then I switched to LG where displays on G2 and G3 were just OK, but I fell in love with those great whites compared to Amoled.
Moving forward, G4 had one of the best screens ever for me, but was plagued by severe burn-in, G5 display was dimmer and burn-in still an issue.
When I got it, Mate 9 set a new standard of display quality for me. Great colors, very good blacks, high contrast ratio and the brightest display I ever had.
So I think, whichever phone will be my next one, I'll be losing on display.

superandroid2011 said:
I like Amoled (had samsung galaxies from 1 to 4) then I switched to LG where displays on G2 and G3 were just OK, but I fell in love with those great whites compared to Amoled.
Moving forward, G4 had one of the best screens ever for me, but was plagued by severe burn-in, G5 display was dimmer and burn-in still an issue.
When I got it, Mate 9 set a new standard of display quality for me. Great colors, very good blacks, high contrast ratio and the brightest display I ever had.
So I think, whichever phone will be my next one, I'll be losing on display.
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That may be true. Display does come down to personal preference a lot of the time. I did play with a Mate 9 at Best Buy once when I had my Pixel XL but it didn't look as good. Probably because I am used to AMOLED, lol.

Oneplus 5T has the adaptive screen mode that replicates true colours, pretty much identical as real life, or an IPS. I still have my Nexus 5, which by the time was praised by it's outstanding screen quality and colour accuracy, well, with that adaptive mode on the OP5T the whites are actually whiter, no bluish or orange tint to it, simply a perfect white. The colours seem dull but that's how real colours are.
AMOLED were praised at first for punchy vivid colours, I never liked it. Went to the OnePlus 5t and when I came upon that adaptive mode, I knew this was the best device ever released, a true worthy upgrade from my lovely and awesome Nexus 5.
A friend of mine has the mate 9, I have to say the screen is nice but nowhere close the OnePlus 5t has to offer.
I just wished OnePlus incorporated OIS on their sensors.. that's my only con