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Are these keyboards any good ?

So I got a 10.1v model, not the standard 10.1 so pretty much any keyboard that would need the tab to slide into it is a no-go for me as the 10.1v is a few milliliters thicker.
So, unless you point me to anything else, this is the only keyboard I've encountered that I could use that is somewhat "tied" to the tablet :
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/270895288302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
These are chinese products and I'm afraid of its quality, but I don't have a choice.
Did one of you guys purchased one of these ? Are they any good ?
I tried to find something but nothing...I could go with a "floating" bluetooth keyboard is the quality is better.
Thanks !

I used this one for while, until I returned it- no complaints. I just didn't need it.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...8N7M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331081016&sr=8-2
Here's a quick look at it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G-y4XecRYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I use the original Keyboard Dock since yesterday, ordered for 60 euros, and its awesome.. Dont use china rubbish!
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Samsung BKC-1B1DEBGXEG
I have the original Keyboard-Case combo, meaning this:
uh can't post links, so here is the name: Samsung BKC-1B1DEBGXEG Bluetooth keyboard ...
Go out and buy it, it's awesome!
Bluetooth connection is really easy, it has a fast wake up (and you can wake your device up by pressing any key [this even unlocks a non-protection screenlock] whoo!) and a humongous long battery duration.
Additionally, the build quality is very fine!
Rate it 6 of 5 stars

Got this case for $60 at Target. works great.
http://www.target.com/p/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Case/-/A-13738199

Thinking that this might be stupid / crazy..
Well, I dont know whether this is the best thread to post this.. Please let me know if there's any other thread that to which this post has to be moved..
So my crazy / stupid question is ---
Has anyone tried using the asus keyboard dock with the samsung galaxy tab ?
I think this may be something stupid becoz i am already thinking that the charging port for both the tabs are totally different and this may not work at all..
Still I am just curious to know whether this has been tried by anybody...

DannyBiker said:
So I got a 10.1v model, not the standard 10.1 so pretty much any keyboard that would need the tab to slide into it is a no-go for me as the 10.1v is a few milliliters thicker.
So, unless you point me to anything else, this is the only keyboard I've encountered that I could use that is somewhat "tied" to the tablet :
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/270895288302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
These are chinese products and I'm afraid of its quality, but I don't have a choice.
Did one of you guys purchased one of these ? Are they any good ?
I tried to find something but nothing...I could go with a "floating" bluetooth keyboard is the quality is better.
Thanks !
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To answer the OP's question... I just got one from eBay for $26 US. It works very well. For that much money, it's hard to beat. Your CDMA GT should fit in it just fine. Both the keybaord and the case are good quality, and can't be beat for that much money.
I do see one potential problem, however. When the case is latched closed the rubber (soft plastic) bracket that supports the base of the tablet comes into contact the screen and does exert a slight amount of pressure on the screen. Over time I am guessing that may damage the screen, but I'm just guessing - not sure about that at all.
Actually, I like the standard Samsung book case the best for the Galaxy Tab, and I don't always need the keyboard. So I'm going to take the little rubber keyboard out of this case and carry that separately. For $26, even that is a great buy.
This case/keyboard is sold under a bunch of brand names. Here is a bunch of reviews on Amazon, if you like to read them.

Hey Dan,
I've been using the Mobile Keyboard 6000 from Microsoft for a few weeks now.
The price is a bit overkill but sure worth the quality you get. And the number pad being detached from the letters is a nice feature if your on the go all the time, leaving the number pad behind is sometimes a plus. It is slightly bigger then the tablet itself but i don't mind since also use it for at home.
Ive been rocking the typing book cover for 2 days now, and so far i like it aside from a few things. But its not putting me off of it with its sleek tight fit.
The main issue is that there is no place to hold a stylus. (PS definitely worth the 20 bones to pick one up) and second, when it is being held in its typing arrangement, you cannot have anything plugged in besides the headphones. It does have a small slit so that the headphone jack doesn't have to be removed and put back in every time but they didn't do the same for the charger/accessory port.
Cheers!

KCHawkeye02 said:
Got this case for $60 at Target. works great.
http://www.target.com/p/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Case/-/A-13738199
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I just picked the same one up at Target for $30 on clearance yesterday. Not a fan and I wouldn't recommend it. The cookie-sheet case feels flimsy and it doesn't protect the back of the tablet at all. The metal edges are kind of sharp (not knife sharp) but I have to be careful not to scratch the sides of my tab when putting it face down in this case. I also don't feel that it's very secured when closed (tablet face down). The keyboard works alright, it's very responsive, and it pairs easily and maintains it's connection, but some of the dedicated buttons don't work. I also would rather re-map some of the android keys such as the email button to open gmail. Maybe I can, but haven't looked into it. I guess it's ok if you're looking for a cheap bluetooth keyboard, but I don't trust it to protect my tablet. Idk how logitech justified this as a $100 case.
**edit** Been using this case with the blueputdroid app on my phone as a mouse and am loving it!

Interesting keyboard case on eBay

So I was browsing for keyboard cases for my Note 10.1 the other day and found this case:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Blueto...vers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item3a844f9c90
Seems interesting because the keyboard is detachable from the case via a magnet on the back of case.
My only concern is that the magnet on the case might mess up the S-Pen. I've had a case with magnets and it indeed interfered with the Note's S-Pen.
Anyway, has anyone heard of this keyboard case?

I'm almost read to order one but the viewing angle looks a little steep?
I did not see any mention of magnets in the description, it's an aluminum case.
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kkretch said:
I'm almost read to order one but the viewing angle looks a little steep?
I did not see any mention of magnets in the description, it's an aluminum case.
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Hi kkretch,
The case does seem to have a large magnet on the back where the keyboard part is attached to. Which, by the way, is one of the nicest features of this case. You can either choose to use the tablet with the back cover, or attach it to the keyboard (see picture attached).
Now, I'm not sure how it will interfere with the S-Pen. But magnets and the S-Pen don't go well together.
Here's another seller selling the same item with more detailed pictures:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-Thin-...vers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item3385635c0d
And as far as I can tell, the viewing angle is adjustable.
The case seems to be very well built and slim. I might take the risk and order one.
Let me know what you think.

If it is indeed a magnet holding it on I'm going to pass, but if you do get it please tell us how it is.
Did you notice the links have different prices.

Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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younix258 said:
Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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This is not true at all. Wacom digitizers do use magnets, that's why you don't need a stylus with battery in it.
Just grab a magnet and put it near the S-Pen while writing down something and you'll see.

younix258 said:
Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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I have a case with some magnets attached to it hold the stand and it definitely messes up the s pen in the region of the magnets. If the case is removed, the s pen works fine. There's a lengthy thread on that in of the fora here, you should check that out if you don't believe me.

the wacom digitizer emits an electrical field which allows the spen to function without battery, it does not use RF
I experimented a little
it seems low power magnets had no effect (magnets you would find in most cases)
rare earth magnets however were able to disrupt the spen, and were able to penetrate though the back of the device and cause the spen not to work good aswell
the magnet has to be right on the device or right behind it to have any effect, as soon as it moves an inch-half an inch away it works normally again
I ordered one of those knock off samsung book cover cases which also has magnets in it, so i will see if while opened it has any effect on it

Joey22688 said:
the wacom digitizer emits an electrical field which allows the spen to function without battery, it does not use RF
I experimented a little
it seems low power magnets had no effect (magnets you would find in most cases)
rare earth magnets however were able to disrupt the spen, and were able to penetrate though the back of the device and cause the spen not to work good aswell
the magnet has to be right on the device or right behind it to have any effect, as soon as it moves an inch-half an inch away it works normally again
I ordered one of those knock off samsung book cover cases which also has magnets in it, so i will see if while opened it has any effect on it
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I see.. Well ive had two cases with magnets in it for several months and no problems so ill back up your claim about only rare metal magnets being strong enough.
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younix258 said:
Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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My sister had a case with a magnet on her Note 2 and it messed up the S-Pen. Although the S-Pen did return to its original state but it took weeks before it came completely demagnetized.

that's awesome. thanks!

I just bought a note and it came with a no name case. Has magnets that keeps the lid closed. Just two small ones at each upper corner of the case. Havent noticed any interference with it.
I really like that keyboard one, especially since its detachable. Is it possibly to get one with a trackpad? ...like the transformer? Or is that custom Asus firmware allowing it to use the pad?
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Own this case
I bought the case the OP was asking about. I have to say that it is a great fit for me. The magnet on the back that holds the keyboard to the case has caused no issues with my SPen. The case and keyboard are very slim and add very little bulk to the overall feel. The keyboard is aluminum which makes it feel very durable. The only con I can find about this case is that the key strokes are a little misleading. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard works perfectly and hasn't missed a keystroke yet, but since I am used to traditional keyboards, the feel of the keys as I type is throwing me off a little. Nothing that time and use won't solve. I also like that the keyboard is removable and I still have a protective case on the back of the tablet.
Overall, this is the best keyboard/case I have found for the Note 10.1 (2012) for my needs.

burkett1974 said:
I bought the case the OP was asking about. I have to say that it is a great fit for me. The magnet on the back that holds the keyboard to the case has caused no issues with my SPen. The case and keyboard are very slim and add very little bulk to the overall feel. The keyboard is aluminum which makes it feel very durable. The only con I can find about this case is that the key strokes are a little misleading. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard works perfectly and hasn't missed a keystroke yet, but since I am used to traditional keyboards, the feel of the keys as I type is throwing me off a little. Nothing that time and use won't solve. I also like that the keyboard is removable and I still have a protective case on the back of the tablet.
Overall, this is the best keyboard/case I have found for the Note 10.1 (2012) for my needs.
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Could you post some pics? planing on getting the same keyboard, but not sure cuz when i remove the keyboard the screen will be unprotected
greetings!

e.coyote said:
Could you post some pics? planing on getting the same keyboard, but not sure cuz when i remove the keyboard the screen will be unprotected
greetings!
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I will try to take some pics when I get back home. Travelling for work at the moment and do not have that case and keyboard on my Note at the moment. I switch it up with the Samsung case and cover as I don't need the keyboard as often the more I use the tablet. Try to get some pics up on Friday though when I get home.
You are correct though, when the keyboard is off, the screen is exposed. I use Invisible Shield to solve that problem.

burkett1974 said:
I will try to take some pics when I get back home. Travelling for work at the moment and do not have that case and keyboard on my Note at the moment. I switch it up with the Samsung case and cover as I don't need the keyboard as often the more I use the tablet. Try to get some pics up on Friday though when I get home.
You are correct though, when the keyboard is off, the screen is exposed. I use Invisible Shield to solve that problem.
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Thank you Sir

[Q] Galaxy Tab S 10.5" Keyboard + Cover/Protector/Pouch compatibility?

Hi everyone, this is my first post, so thanks for reading!
I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5", and along with it I got the Samsung Bluetooth Keyboard. It's great and sleek; they work really well together. However, I am still wary of scratching up the tablet since the keyboard doesn't come with a cover and only serves as a stand.
I was wondering whether there are any covers for the tablet available that would be compatible with the keyboard; AUA: the tablet will still fit in the keyboard while it has the cover/protector attached. If not, I was wondering if there are any great pouches big and snug enough to keep the tablet folded with the keyboard inside? A pouch might be nice actually since the keyboard itself was rather expensive as well, so keeping it in good condition is preferable.
I hope the answers here help others, too, because I couldn't really find any threads addressing this issue.
Here is the keyboard in question: samsung . com /us/ mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EJ-CT800UAEGUJ
Many thanks!
PS. It would be nice to have a cover/protector to complement this titanium bronze color. Not necessary though :fingers-crossed:
PPS. I know this sorta belongs in the Galaxy Tab S Accessories forum, but I was warned that posting questions there is against the rules.

There should be plenty of netbook cases fitting it.

Aw alright thanks
pibach said:
There should be plenty of netbook cases fitting it.
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Hmm well if that's the only option then I guess that's alright with me. I was just hoping that there was a more eloquent solution.
I'll definitely look into it though. Thank you very much for your advice.
I hope Samsung does eventually produce a matching case or pouch for the tab + keyboard.

I have this and it protects the screen while closed (there are 4 plastic holders at the edges) or do you want the backside to be protected as well?

Daagen said:
I have this and it protects the screen while closed (there are 4 plastic holders at the edges) or do you want the backside to be protected as well?
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oh yeah it protects my screen well when it is closed. I just wanted something for the back for when I close it and carry it around. I don't want to scratch the tablet anywhere; as little as possible at least

I got the Logitech keyboard instead because it was $50 cheaper and protects both the screen and the back of the tablet. I'd suggest you return the Samsung keyboard and get the Logitech one

brando56894 said:
I got the Logitech keyboard instead because it was $50 cheaper and protects both the screen and the back of the tablet. I'd suggest you return the Samsung keyboard and get the Logitech one
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Thanks but I tried the logitech one and I didn't like the feel. It felt cheaper. Also they let me buy the Samsung one for 50% off cuz I asked

Haha well to each his own!

I got this one and have only had it a couple days. Keyboard is included and seems to work well.
XKTTSUEERCRR Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Ultra-Thin High Quality Bluetooth Keyboard Portfolio Case - DETACHABLE Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard Stand Case / Cover for Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Table (SM-T800) with Self Timer and Remote Control Camera Shutter (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M7X983I/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_5EXaub1FDBWYX
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RascalDoc said:
I got this one and have only had it a couple days. Keyboard is included and seems to work well.
XKTTSUEERCRR Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Ultra-Thin High Quality Bluetooth Keyboard Portfolio Case - DETACHABLE Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard Stand Case / Cover for Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Table (SM-T800) with Self Timer and Remote Control Camera Shutter (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M7X983I/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_5EXaub1FDBWYX
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I have the Samsung book cover that I love but if I wanted a keyboard it would be this one. Very nice at a good price. Good find.

I have this one for a quick running out the door cover, no keyboard. One not so good feature, it's really hard to use it for a stand. Doesn't work well for that but otherwise it's super. I've got one for my Note 3 also.
MoKo Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Case - Ultra Slim Lightweight Smart-shell Stand Case for Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Inch Android Tablet, INDIGO (With Smart Cover Auto Wake / Sleep) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K9VW4GS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_nh8aub1B1WSWA
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Auto - sleep...

Have had bad experiences with cases where the magnets haven't cooperated and the auto-sleep feature has been less than convenient. The s pen hasn't worked correctly and sometimes the tablet has gone to sleep without me touching the power button... just because the case has been folded so that the magnet has been pressed to the back of the tablet. Cheap cases? I confess... yes they have been. But after the first one I didn't really want to risk buying a more expensive one just to end up sitting with the knife and cutting out the magnet again. So l bought another cheap one... to see if the first one had been a "bad luck buy". Well, it wasn't and the second one behaved the same way... and the third one too. Is this a typical "cheap case thing" or is it something you can expect also with the more expensive ones? The best thing would of course be if this was an optional feature... that you can disable. On my iPad it's optional with a switch in the settings. I haven't found something on the Note 10.1 though. So my questions are...
• IS this a typical "cheap case syndrome"?
• IS the function optional on the Note 10.1 2014? (Or can it be done in another way?)
/ Nick

Runarsson said:
Have had bad experiences with cases where the magnets haven't cooperated and the auto-sleep feature has been less than convenient. The s pen hasn't worked correctly and sometimes the tablet has gone to sleep without me touching the power button... just because the case has been folded so that the magnet has been pressed to the back of the tablet. Cheap cases? I confess... yes they have been. But after the first one I didn't really want to risk buying a more expensive one just to end up sitting with the knife and cutting out the magnet again. So l bought another cheap one... to see if the first one had been a "bad luck buy". Well, it wasn't and the second one behaved the same way... and the third one too. Is this a typical "cheap case thing" or is it something you can expect also with the more expensive ones? The best thing would of course be if this was an optional feature... that you can disable. On my iPad it's optional with a switch in the settings. I haven't found something on the Note 10.1 though. So my questions are...
• IS this a typical "cheap case syndrome"?
• IS the function optional on the Note 10.1 2014? (Or can it be done in another way?)
/ Nick
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Firstly I have a book cover and have no trouble. I think it is a cheap case thing. Samsung official book cover has magnets in it and from what people say they have no issues with them. In settings there are an options for the book cover in accessories section try play with those settings.
BTW: the name of my case is Snugg it was $18.
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Funny thing... maybe something I should keep to myself. But what the heck. Noone here knows me anyway. I found the option now... and not only that. I had actually turned it off. I must have done it by mistake while looking for it, because I sure can't remember ever finding it. Blind or senile. I must be at least one of them. LOL
But out of curiosity. I gather it must be some kind of sensor in that area since l was moving the cover's magnet area around and when it came close to that area it turned off without the screen being covered. Does that setting control the function or does it control the sensor itself? (If it only controls the function, the S Pen would still have behaved weird. around that area.)
Well, thank you anyway. Now I don't have to wonder about the setting anymore. Now I'm more worried about how come I never found it myself. l thought I had looked everywhere... including that area. But now I found it instantly. Far from hidden (even in a settings group with the NAME 'Book cover'). Maybe time for the annual doctor's checkup.

magnets on 3rd party cases: does the S4 have the same issue?

the Tab S3 had a issue with magnets on 3rd party cases, where it's alleged that the the strength of the magnets can create "dead spots" on the digitalizer — and in some cases, the damage is permanent. the original thread is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/accessories/beware-auto-sleep-tab-s3-t3625213
anyone experience the same issue with the Tab S4?

This is probably the same with the SGTS4. It won't affect the capacitive touchscreen but it will affect the S-Pen.

I have both the Tab S3 and the Tab S4 on magnetic cases and neither tablet has any issue with the magnets, S Pen, dead spots or touch screen.

aspexil said:
I have both the Tab S3 and the Tab S4 on magnetic cases and neither tablet has any issue with the magnets, S Pen, dead spots or touch screen.
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It depends on how power the magnets are on your case. If the magnets used in your case are extremely powerful then they will interfere with your device and cause those issues.

i figured since the Tab S4 was so damn expensive, i might as well spend the extra and get the official Book Cover and some peace of mind.
surely Samsung's own case wouldn't be problematic ... would it?

AM Radio said:
i figured since the Tab S4 was so damn expensive, i might as well spend the extra and get the official Book Cover and some peace of mind.
surely Samsung's own case wouldn't be problematic ... would it?
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It isn't. I have both the official Samsung covers and various 3rd party magnetic covers which I swap out based on what I need for that day. Have not had any issues in the 18+ months with the S3 and the couple of months with the S4. I don't know why there is a lot of FUD around this issue up on both the S3 and S4 forums up here. More likely than not the folks complaining are actually having issues with their S Pen and a broken nib (which is easily replaced). I know when I broke my S Pen nib it started acting up. But the nib replacements are in the box and easily removed and replaced fixing the issue.