Hi all,
I ask because there seem to be differences between the features offered. For example, my carrier, Sprint, doesn't support WiFi calling or simultaneous talk/surf on the Pixel 2. They just rolled out "Calling Plus", which supposedly does these things but only very few Sprint locked phones are supported yet. Worse still, I've heard that they'll never support the Pixels that way. This makes me want to switch but I like my cheap unlimited plan.
I've been trying Project Fi. I like it so far (it has those features I mentioned above) but I'm afraid it isn't very cost effective for my wife and I at 9.3gb/month average combined usage on Sprint. Fi isn't too far out of line for us and I like it's features but can we do better?
Do the other carriers support these features? Thanks for any insight on this as I would like to keep my Pixel and not have to switch to a Samsung.
Thanks!
I just switched to tmobile today from Verizon, $80 USD a month for 10gb tether, unlimited text, talk, and data.
I mainly wanted to switch to them for calls and texts over WiFi
Cool, this is exactly what I want to know. Is Sprint the only one that won't support WiFi calling on the Pixel? I'd like to know what T mobile charges for two phones with 10 gb. I'll check it out. Did you get the $325 cash card for bringing your Pixel?
Can I assume you can simultaneously talk/surf? That is supported at Fi but interestingly only when connected to T mobile, not Sprint.
Unlimited TMobile has been my go to for years! Including free international roaming, text & data...
I use total wireless at 60 bucks a month for 2 phones with 8 gig data .. on Verizon antennas.. no calling features, but I've read some people can get the tethering to work.. also FYI my pixel xl2 gets a more consistent signal and data through put than my XL ever dreamed about.. htc dropped the ball with the pixel XL radios. My main reason for this purchase
Thx all. Looks like Project Fi is about the same price as the current T-Mobile deal at our level of usage. The advantage with Fi is that you can choose carrier networks on the fly if one or the other isn't working at the moment. But if we use more data any particular month, it could get expensive. It works the other way too though as you pay for exactly what you use. With T-Mobile, in flight internet and Netflix are solid advantages.
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Cool, this is exactly what I want to know. Is Sprint the only one that won't support WiFi calling on the Pixel? I'd like to know what T mobile charges for two phones with 10 gb. I'll check it out. Did you get the $325 cash card for bringing your Pixel?
Can I assume you can simultaneously talk/surf? That is supported at Fi but interestingly only when connected to T mobile, not Sprint.
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Nope, I got hosed on that deal and was pretty pissed about it. Do the deal was, you had till Nov 2nd to get up the line. I ordered my device on the 6th and received it on the 31st. So I had what? Two days to get in and switch my carrier? And some people that have ordered still havent even gotten theirs because of color choices.
Then again the associate didn't even know they had a promo for the new pixels, and took her twenty minutes to find any information about it. So I'm actually going to do some looking around on the **** I saw online to see if they have end dates.
Verizon has a terrible app that can allow texts over WiFi, it always worked like garbage for me, and like two samjunks and all the iPhones offer wifi calling on vzw. But to me, this might as well mean they don't offer it.
I also wanted to get away from having to use a device that can use cdma, cdma is old, and very much outdated, which only vzw and Sprint use.
So now, even if I descided to get a different phone, it opens up more device choices that I normally wouldn't have since all phones offer gsm support, but not always cdma
Also, if you have two lines on the unlimited all plan that I got, apparently you get a free Netflix account too.
If you're an old fogie like me, you can get 2 lines of unlimited everything on T-Mobile for $60/mo if one of you is 55+. If you know someone 55+ who you could share the plan with, it's a great deal.
Wifi calling and textimg works great for me on Verizon.
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dberthia said:
If you're an old fogie like me, you can get 2 lines of unlimited everything on T-Mobile for $60/mo if one of you is 55+. If you know someone 55+ who you could share the plan with, it's a great deal.
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That's decent. Wonder if it includes tethering.
I just checked, tethering is at 3G speeds.
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That's decent. Wonder if it includes tethering.
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No, think it's $10/month add-on for 10GB 4g, then throttled.
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No, think it's $10/month add-on for 10GB 4g, then throttled.
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Tethering is included, but at 3G speeds. You can pay additional for 4G.
26kick said:
Cool, this is exactly what I want to know. Is Sprint the only one that won't support WiFi calling on the Pixel? I'd like to know what T mobile charges for two phones with 10 gb. I'll check it out. Did you get the $325 cash card for bringing your Pixel?
Can I assume you can simultaneously talk/surf? That is supported at Fi but interestingly only when connected to T mobile, not Sprint.
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Do you happen to have access to one of the Sprint supported phones? With Verizon, I had to setup the WiFi calling on a Verizon branded phone first, set e911 address, and then when I switched my sim back into the pixel XL (og), the WiFi calling options showed up and worked fine.
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Wifi calling and textimg works great for me on Verizon.
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Same here. I'm not sure what Lawlrus is talking about in regards to wifi calling & texting on Verizon. What he's saying was true a couple years ago, but isn't with any recent phones on Verizon. Seems like his info is out of date. I've been using wifi calling & texting on Verizon for a while now through several phones, including the Pixel XL and Pixel 2 XL. Works great. I'm often in areas with weak signal, and being able to call and text over wifi allows me to put my phone in airplane mode to save on battery life. I've used it while traveling overseas as well.
Ask yourself this though. Is WiFi calling and simultaneously talking and having data really that necessary for you that it would be worth a possible price jump to another carrier? I'm with Sprint an hard actually talk on the phone enough to want or need either of those features.
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I was on Verizon for 6 years. I bought the Pixel 2 XL from Google so I decided to try Project Fi. It's ok, but there are too many issues with it that I just can't deal with. Wifi calling on speaker phone echos back the person on the other line to them, Google knows this is an issue with project fi, but can't seem to fix it. Sometime the call doesn't answer when you try and answer the phone, you can't hear the person on the other end. The tower switching just flat out sucks. In places where I get full bars on TMobile (which is like everywhere for me) some times it switches to Sprint which will have little to no service and I will need to force the phone back to TMobile. On my wife's phone which I also put on fi, she would be right next to me and she would be on a different tower. Made no sense. Even restarting the phone it wouldn't switch so we would need to force switch whichever phone was stuck on Sprint. I wanted so much to like project fi, but unfortunately it's just too much of a hassle. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was when I send an mms to someone it compresses the image to just a terrible image the size of a thumbnail. Again this is a known issue on Project fi that other people just deal with. I'm not interested in having a half ass phone carrier just to save some money. I would rather pay a little more for good consistent service.
I am switching to TMobile. I have 2 SIM cards coming. $120 (that includes taxes) per month for 2 lines, unlimited talk text data. Plus you get Netflix for free, so I can cancel my Netflix so I will save there too.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Ask yourself this though. Is WiFi calling and simultaneously talking and having data really that necessary for you that it would be worth a possible price jump to another carrier? I'm with Sprint an hard actually talk on the phone enough to want or need either of those features.
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I have asked myself that time and time again. I now do work on a cruise ship and have no cell service but do have blazing wifi. With Sprint, not using an S8 or one of the 3 or so of their other phones that support Calling Plus, I'm completely in the dark for texts and calls for days at a time. These features are semi standard nowadays and are a requirement for me whereas before they we're a convenience. Believe me, I would much rather stay with Sprint.
I am interested in hearing this feedback on TMobile! Thanks everyone, please keep it coming.
One final question I have posed, though it is a little unusual, but I'd like to know if my wife's as yet unactivated, Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4 will work on TMobile as well as my Pixel 2 xl...and have all of the features. ??
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Do you happen to have access to one of the Sprint supported phones? With Verizon, I had to setup the WiFi calling on a Verizon branded phone first, set e911 address, and then when I switched my sim back into the pixel XL (og), the WiFi calling options showed up and worked fine.
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This is extremely interesting as both carriers are cdma. I don't have one of those phones. I've been told though, that a phone needs a specific software update to enable calling plus, which makes me doubtful of success.
What about simultaneous talk/surf, @Deuces?
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I was on Verizon for 6 years. I bought the Pixel 2 XL from Google so I decided to try Project Fi. It's ok, but there are too many issues with it that I just can't deal with. Wifi calling on speaker phone echos back the person on the other line to them, Google knows this is an issue with project fi, but can't seem to fix it. Sometime the call doesn't answer when you try and answer the phone, you can't hear the person on the other end. The tower switching just flat out sucks. In places where I get full bars on TMobile (which is like everywhere for me) some times it switches to Sprint which will have little to no service and I will need to force the phone back to TMobile. On my wife's phone which I also put on fi, she would be right next to me and she would be on a different tower. Made no sense. Even restarting the phone it wouldn't switch so we would need to force switch whichever phone was stuck on Sprint. I wanted so much to like project fi, but unfortunately it's just too much of a hassle. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was when I send an mms to someone it compresses the image to just a terrible image the size of a thumbnail. Again this is a known issue on Project fi that other people just deal with. I'm not interested in having a half ass phone carrier just to save some money. I would rather pay a little more for good consistent service.
I am switching to TMobile. I have 2 SIM cards coming. $120 (that includes taxes) per month for 2 lines, unlimited talk text data. Plus you get Netflix for free, so I can cancel my Netflix so I will save there too.
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Bummer about your experience with Fi. I don't think I've experienced those things yet. But I'm considering TMobile straight away based on our recent average data usage. We've been on unlimited for years with Sprint so for us to reprogram our habits into the hassle of finding and registering for (sometimes suspect) free WiFi networks feels like too much.
I agree, we just want good consistent service. The only downgrade I can see for us at TMobile with ONE plan would be streaming capped at 480p. Am I right?
Curious, why didn't you go back to Verizon, @tacopimp?
In any case, please let me/us know how it is when you activate your Tmobile SIMS!
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So I've been browsing the internet looking for what people thought about going voip instead of buying expensive cell phone minutes.
After thoroughly researching the subject I decided to go all in and make my Nexus data only (Verizon). Verizon, however, were onto me and apparently they don't even offer data only phones anymore.
After that little set back I went back to my research. Lo and behold I found that one could switch 4G Sim cards on devices and receive an internet connection. So I canceled my expensive voice/text/data plan for my nexus ($120ish/mo) and went and got a mifi 4510L which was free with 2 yr. contract.
After doing this I simply removed the 4G Sim to try and put into my nexus and ran into yet another problem. IT WAS TOO BIG! After doing some more research I found i could simply cut the Sim to fit into my phone and walaa I was in business.
I had a deactivated phone pulling down an internet connection from a mifi plan, so essentially I've gone data only which is what I wanted in the first place.
After this I simply got myself a Skype calling plan ($2.99/mo) unlimited US calling, and purchased a Skype number ($30 for full year with the new subscription discount). The quality on Skype is impeccable I've used many different VOIP services (voip.ms/callcentric/groove ip/etc.) and Skype is the closest to sounding like an actual cell phone. I can even use it while driving down the freeway at 70+ mph and no problems. The last company I used I wouldn't even try to make a call while driving even 10mph. The audio would lag out and turn into garble.
Since everyone already has my google voice number I tied it to my newly obtained Skype number, made my Skype callerID show my Google Voice number when I call out, and haven't looked back. I've even set it up on my gf's phone. Using the same method above with the mifi SIM switchout.
So at the end of the day I have a data only phone that I can make and receive calls from and text (through google voice app) and I'm only spending ~$55/mo.
Big improvement over the $120+ I was spending. Just wanted to hear if anyone else out there had some similar stories or was thinking about doing the same thing. :cyclops:
Sounds like a deal, straight talk is $45 a month though. I did notice that Skype has better call quality than sprint voice.
Smart.
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Hmm, VZW sucks, $120/mo. I pay $138 for 4 lines with Tmo...
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Sounds like a deal, straight talk is $45 a month though. I did notice that Skype has better call quality than sprint voice.
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Does straight talk offer 4G? The bulk of my cost is the $50 for 5 GB I have on the data plan. I don't use much data anyways with all the free wifis everywhere and at home.
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Does straight talk offer 4G? The bulk of my cost is the $50 for 5 GB I have on the data plan. I don't use much data anyways with all the free wifis everywhere and at home.
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Nope, and good point with the free wifi everywhere.
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So I've been browsing the internet looking for what people thought about going voip instead of buying expensive cell phone minutes.
After thoroughly researching the subject I decided to go all in and make my Nexus data only (Verizon). Verizon, however, were onto me and apparently they don't even offer data only phones anymore.
After that little set back I went back to my research. Lo and behold I found that one could switch 4G Sim cards on devices and receive an internet connection. So I canceled my expensive voice/text/data plan for my nexus ($120ish/mo) and went and got a mifi 4510L which was free with 2 yr. contract.
After doing this I simply removed the 4G Sim to try and put into my nexus and ran into yet another problem. IT WAS TOO BIG! After doing some more research I found i could simply cut the Sim to fit into my phone and walaa I was in business.
I had a deactivated phone pulling down an internet connection from a mifi plan, so essentially I've gone data only which is what I wanted in the first place.
After this I simply got myself a Skype calling plan ($2.99/mo) unlimited US calling, and purchased a Skype number ($30 for full year with the new subscription discount). The quality on Skype is impeccable I've used many different VOIP services (voip.ms/callcentric/groove ip/etc.) and Skype is the closest to sounding like an actual cell phone. I can even use it while driving down the freeway at 70+ mph and no problems. The last company I used I wouldn't even try to make a call while driving even 10mph. The audio would lag out and turn into garble.
Since everyone already has my google voice number I tied it to my newly obtained Skype number, made my Skype callerID show my Google Voice number when I call out, and haven't looked back. I've even set it up on my gf's phone. Using the same method above with the mifi SIM switchout.
So at the end of the day I have a data only phone that I can make and receive calls from and text (through google voice app) and I'm only spending ~$55/mo.
Big improvement over the $120+ I was spending. Just wanted to hear if anyone else out there had some similar stories or was thinking about doing the same thing. :cyclops:
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Is this a GSM or VZW Nexus?
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Is this a GSM or VZW Nexus?
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Verizon Nexus
SoljNex said:
Does straight talk offer 4G? The bulk of my cost is the $50 for 5 GB I have on the data plan. I don't use much data anyways with all the free wifis everywhere and at home.
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Yeah they offer H+ on T Mobile and AT&T. Unfortunately they don't support LTE yet.
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I was not aware that the Verizon GNex even had a SIM card slot.
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Does straight talk offer 4G? The bulk of my cost is the $50 for 5 GB I have on the data plan. I don't use much data anyways with all the free wifis everywhere and at home.
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T-Mobile is $30 for 5GB of "4G" plus unlimited texts and 100 mins voice, but you probably don't care about those
Archpope said:
I was not aware that the Verizon GNex even had a SIM card slot.
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All Verizon LTE phones have a SIM.
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Archpope said:
I was not aware that the Verizon GNex even had a SIM card slot.
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Yes all verizon 4g lte devices use a sim card
Will you be able to call 911 god forbid if you have too.
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BrianDigital said:
Will you be able to call 911 god forbid if you have too.
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Emergency calls should work without any Sim or plan at all.
BrianDigital said:
Will you be able to call 911 god forbid if you have too.
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Calling 911 will work just by going to your normal dialer.
So the monthly rate cost issue has been basically solved.
Now I need to find a way to get the top of the line phones at a cheaper price.
does it pull in 3g data as well? otherwise it's not an option for me, since 4g isnt available unless i'm in town
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does it pull in 3g data as well? otherwise it's not an option for me, since 4g isnt available unless i'm in town
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It does pull 3g when not in 4g area. Also the call quality is also impeccable over 3G as well. I tested it today in an area with 1 3G bar.
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Does straight talk offer 4G? The bulk of my cost is the $50 for 5 GB I have on the data plan. I don't use much data anyways with all the free wifis everywhere and at home.
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But the their faux 4g is super quick, on T-Mobile I get 4-6 Mbps everywhere I go
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VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
There is no reason to stay if you don't want to. If sprint has good enough service for you and is cheaper, go for it.
Good luck with sprint. **** service
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it' s a tough choice, Verizon gives best service and they know it and take advantage, the ones who know they aren't up to par let things slide like unlocking to gain customers. and it works, I also have been with Verizon sine before it was even called Verizon (so my dad says) and I don't think I could get him to ever switch (he doesn't care about root, just service) so my future is in the hands of the great devs and or dev edition phones, yayyy. Verizon has gone down hill fast since crApple came. everything that was decent changed, recently 24 mount contracts now, no longer 20 month, 14 day return rather than 30. Guess we will see how things play out at least with this phone we are able to send it out for S-OFF. and it came fast, very cool.
I hopefully sending mine out next week.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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What have they done to the phone?
There's no reason to stay. Just like mentioned before - if you have no need for Verizon's service coverage vs. Sprint's, then why stay with them? If you get solid Sprint coverage everywhere you need it, then switch. Otherwise, the only reason to stay is for the coverage. That's generally the only reason to go with carrier X over carrier Y.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I just left Sprint after 13 years and picked this phone up on Verizon. Let me tell you the grass is not greener on the other side, Unlimited data is meaningless when you can't even play a youtube video for your kid in the car even though you're in the middle of a major metropolitan area (Seattle). If you want dial up speeds then by all means go for it.
Just switched from sprint also after being with them for 14 years. The data speeds were so slow they were unusable. It got to the point where I couldn't even get make a phone call without dropping the call. I drove from Ohio to Florida and only picked up LTE maybe 3 times for about 5 minutes. Other people in the car had Verizon and had LTE 90 percent of the time. Need less to say it was a damn long trip on horrible 3g and 1x
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Sprints data speeds are horrible. Had them for years. Dropped calls a lot too.
I'm not really happy with Verizon either but at least I'm never without service. I'd rather be unhappy WITH service than unhappy WITHOUT service.
Have fun. Peace out.
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I just left Sprint after 13 years and picked this phone up on Verizon. Let me tell you the grass is not greener on the other side, Unlimited data is meaningless when you can't even play a youtube video for your kid in the car even though you're in the middle of a major metropolitan area (Seattle). If you want dial up speeds then by all means go for it.
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Same here. I was with Sprint 9 years. The dropped calls, terrible data just got to be too much. They recently turned the 4G LTE on in my area and it was spotty at best. I just can't get over how much better Verizon's network is.
My work phone is T-Moble. I had VZ for my personal cells and switched to AT&T about 4 years ago. I could not wait to go back to VZ. T-Moble is just brutal in my vacation home. It actually switches to AT&T service. AT&T was slow and would drop a ton of calls. VZ may be a PITA but they have the best signal/speed where I live. I'm afraid I will be with VZ a long time.
Lol. Got a buddy on Sprint, he tethers into my phone for data all the time. You really can't beat Verizon coverage and data speed.
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Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I've been somewhat considering this too. After asking around, seems AT&T is considered next best in service.
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I've been somewhat considering this too. After asking around, seems AT&T is considered next best in service.
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Eh not anywhere I've been. ATT is barely better than Sprint where I've been. T-mobile is pretty much second in areas I've been which is alot.
Anthrax79 said:
VZW is about to loose a 10 year customer.
I hate what VZW has done to this phone. That paired with the upgrade shuffle needed to keep my unlimited data and I am about to jump to Sprint. I can get two HTC Ones, and a new Torque for my son for $99 total. Unlimited data and everything. Plus the added feature of be able to unlock and root.
Why should I stay.
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I was with Sprint for 10 years and I'm glad I left them. Sure you can still get unlimited data with them but their service is terrible. Sprint LTE is going to take a while to reach Verizon's coverage and the 3G speeds are a joke. Verizon may torture us with their stance against modding, but most of us just deal with it because their service is the best...case in point, the recent JD Power rankings. Being able to unlock and root doesn't mean anything if you don't have the network support to back it up.
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it' s a tough choice, Verizon gives best service and they know it and take advantage, the ones who know they aren't up to par let things slide like unlocking to gain customers. and it works, I also have been with Verizon sine before it was even called Verizon (so my dad says) and I don't think I could get him to ever switch (he doesn't care about root, just service) so my future is in the hands of the great devs and or dev edition phones, yayyy. Verizon has gone down hill fast since crApple came. everything that was decent changed, recently 24 mount contracts now, no longer 20 month, 14 day return rather than 30. Guess we will see how things play out at least with this phone we are able to send it out for S-OFF. and it came fast, very cool.
I hopefully sending mine out next week.
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I sell Verizon phones at a premium retailer and must say apple is the cause of all my problems and have seen that as soon as apple came along all the plans changed they got rid of unlimited apple is the root of all evil
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Let the OP go to Sprint - he'll be back fast enough. The reason vzw did what they did was because they didn't want to swap out a bunch of phones and do all that paperwork.
In the future don't jump on the phone the first day or week it's out, wait a while to see if that's what you want.
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good luck. Had sprint, then t-mobile before verizon.
Sprint was bad, 200kbits/sec speeds when having 3g signal. Their LTE runs on 2500mhz which means you'll drop that as soon as you walk inside.
T-mobile had much faster data speeds, but coverage was horrendous and a lot of dropped calls.
You get what you pay for. Unless you live on wifi, you'll be crying about sprint soon enough.
I've heard terrible things about Sprint, but I've never had their service. I had T-mobile YEARS ago and it was awful, I'm sure things have changed since then.
Verizon isn't cheap, it's a headache to go through the loophole to keep your unlimited data, but if you're going to switch to Sprint, do your research, and make sure you're going to be okay with slower data speeds and spotty coverage.
I don't like waiting extra time for phones on Verizon, nor do I enjoy the bloat that they fill their phones with, but that's the reality of it and the cost of keeping my unlimited data with a company that has a fast/reliable network.
Thankfully, we have awesome developers who work their magic and donate their work to the community.
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Let the OP go to Sprint - he'll be back fast enough. The reason vzw did what they did was because they didn't want to swap out a bunch of phones and do all that paperwork.
In the future don't jump on the phone the first day or week it's out, wait a while to see if that's what you want.
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Two years ago, I switched to Sprint. Got home and realized I couldn't even make phone calls inside my house. Next day,returned the sprint phones and went back to VZW. I have never looked at another carrier since.
I will say that when I went back to VZW, they gave me two new upgrades on my phones.... that was a plus to my mess.
I am clueless when it comes to this service. I did do a quick search to try and read a bit about it. I am on Verizon wireless and ordered my Pixel XL from the Google store. Not knowing really what it was and because it was free I chose to get the Fi SIM card added. Does this basically take me off Verizon if used? I guess I would be on one of 3 networks that have the best speed and would pay monthly to Project Fi instead of Verizon?
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https://fi.google.com/about/
If you hardly use any data it's a great service
I'd say if you're not on a Verizon family plan, it's probably worth a try. Would be interested to hear how well it works in real life switching between Wi-Fi and their carrier networks. I've never been happy with Verizon's ability to switch and as such, HD calling is useless. Conversations turn into unintelligible gibberish in our house as it insists on staying on a marginal cell signal rather than switch to Wi-Fi
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Thanks guys. I just didn't really know what it is but after reading through the link uicnren provided, it basically replaces Verizon as your carrier. The price seems just a little high even though I do like that you only pay for what you use. I bought my phone through Google but wonder if there would've been a package type deal if purchased through project fi? Around 40 a month to Google for the phone and 50 to fi for the data plan. Like previously mentioned, probably a great deal for someone who is on wifi mostly.
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I just switched to Fi from at&t. I had a 5GB data plan with them on the next installment option. I was paying around $120 a month including the monthly phone payment.
I usually never came close to using 5 Gigs a month, more like 2 or 3, but I just kept it at 5 to avoid overages. On Google Fi I'll pay about the same IF I use 5 Gigs, and that also includes the phones finance payment. BUT I'm looking forward to having a lower bill on those majority of months that I don't use much data.
The thing that I really like about Fi is that the data is there if I need it, and I only pay for what I use.
no MMS??
So apparently I was chatting with a Google Fi rep and this is what they said:
naseema5:43 PM
MMS isn't included in unlimited package. When you're trying to send MMS it needs the data or Wifi connection. You will be charged for the data if you are connected to WiFi.
I do a lot of pictures and group messages via MMS. Does that mean that I will be charged for data.... Anyone experienced with this? or is this chat rep being retarded??
kreizyidiot said:
So apparently I was chatting with a Google Fi rep and this is what they said:
naseema5:43 PM
MMS isn't included in unlimited package. When you're trying to send MMS it needs the data or Wifi connection. You will be charged for the data if you are connected to WiFi.
I do a lot of pictures and group messages via MMS. Does that mean that I will be charged for data.... Anyone experienced with this? or is this chat rep being retarded??
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This does make sense. In simple terms MMS by carriers is handled by uploading the image/data to the carriers server then the recipients phone receives the request that someone wants to send them an image/data, the phone then downloads the image/data and displays it. You can verify that MMS uses data by turning off all types of data on your phone such as mobile data and wifi but leaving your service on, when you try to send anything thats MMS it will never send no matter how good your signal is. I dont have project fi but based on my understanding on how MMS works it makes sense that it uses data. I personally moved away from mms for group chat and use allo instead with my friends. For photos I use mostly snapchat but sometimes MMS, MMS gets pretty compressed so it wouldnt bother me.
Hey guys, I'm currently on XL and want to pull the trigger for XL2. Can anyone confirm if tethering is working? For some reason, I can't get my XL to tether anymore on Verizon.
I'm on the $80 unlimited plan.
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MatthewRobinson said:
Hey guys, I'm currently on XL and want to pull the trigger for XL2. Can anyone confirm if tethering is working? For some reason, I can't get my XL to tether anymore on Verizon.
I'm on the $80 unlimited plan.
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Tethering does not seem to work out of the box. However there are a number of people who have rooted the phone and have gotten it working that way
MatthewRobinson said:
Hey guys, I'm currently on XL and want to pull the trigger for XL2. Can anyone confirm if tethering is working? For some reason, I can't get my XL to tether anymore on Verizon.
I'm on the $80 unlimited plan.
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Just tested it where i'm at (horrible signal and data speeds) but wifi tethering still worked on my laptop just fine.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Tethering does not seem to work out of the box. However there are a number of people who have rooted the phone and have gotten it working that way
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I guess that's why tethering works for me, I'm rooted. But that shouldn't be the answer it should work without root, unfortunately i didn't think to test that before i unlocked my bootloader and rooted.
I'm rooted on XL with the build.prop edit and it's not working for me. It connects, but gives no data. Any idea as to why?
Are you on the Verizon $80 unlimited?
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I'm have the Verizon version of the Pixel 2 XL and tethering works fine out of the box for me.
depends if you're prepaid or postpaid. Tethering won't work on the prepaid $80 plan.
AceKingNYC said:
depends if you're prepaid or postpaid. Tethering won't work on the prepaid $80 plan.
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Even if you're rooted!!!?
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Even if you're rooted!!!?
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I can't speak to that personally. But I can't see how it isn't solved with root. I am on verizon prepaid but most likely keeping everything as is
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I can't speak to that personally. But I can't see how it isn't solved with root. I am on verizon prepaid but most likely keeping everything as is
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On XL when I turn it on, devices connect, but don't have a connection. I have the pixel and pixel XL. One on T-Mobile and the other on Verizon. I swapped Sims and same thing. T-Mobile works just fine on either phone.
Whichever one I put Verizon Sim in can't tether suddenly.
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Verizon version of the Pixel 2 XL & Tethering
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I'm have the Verizon version of the Pixel 2 XL and tethering works fine out of the box for me.
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I have it out of the box ....but I don't know why people think the VZ sold product is any different than the G-store item
Uhg..much reading later I think its going back...Seems the VZ version cannot get bootloader unlocked and if so it seems like a hell of a mess. Im just a simple flasher..or please correct me if I am wrong??
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I have it out of the box ....but I don't know why people think the VZ sold product is any different than the G-store item
Uhg..much reading later I think its going back...Seems the VZ version cannot get bootloader unlocked and if so it seems like a hell of a mess. Im just a simple flasher..or please correct me if I am wrong??
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Mine is the actual Google version, with Verizon service.
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Hey there I work for Verizon. So hotspot is disabled on prepaid $60 and $80 plans. As far as postpaid. They made it more complicated.
"Verizon unlimited"no longer available unless you switched to it from the beginning. This plan includes 15gb of high-speed hotspot/tether is included with this plan​ and will slow to unlimited 3g speeds after.You get 22gb of prioritized high speed lte. Now if your at a big event like a baseball game. Everyone who has Verizon there will be on the same tower. Those that are on this plan and have gone over the 22gb if data will experience a slower connection for the time period until they leave and connect to a different tower. Also includes calls to Mexico and Canada whether you're here or there. $85 bucks $80 with auto pay.
"Go unlimited" this plan has no high speed lte hotspot. But you have unlimited 3g hot spot. You are not prioritized, you can be slowed down on a busy tower wether you have used 1gb or 100gb of data. no Mexico no Canada. And 480p restriction for streaming. $80 bucks $75 with auto pay.
"Beyond unlimited" this is much like the first plan I listed. Everything is the same except there's a 720p restriction on streaming and it's $90 bucks $85 with autopay.
Hopefully you jumped on the first plan when u had the chance. All they accomplished by splitting the plan into two was confused the hell out of me. Lol. Let me know if you need anything else and answered. I'm always willing to help! I love verizon where I live. It's pretty much king here. I switched jobs and service from T-Mobile. I hate that my Pixel 2 XL is locked but it's probably a blessing in disguise knowing my luck.
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Hey there I work for Verizon. So hotspot is disabled on prepaid $60 and $80 plans. As far as postpaid. They made it more complicated.
"Verizon unlimited"no longer available unless you switched to it from the beginning. This plan includes 15gb of high-speed hotspot/tether is included with this plan​ and will slow to unlimited 3g speeds after.You get 22gb of prioritized high speed lte. Now if your at a big event like a baseball game. Everyone who has Verizon there will be on the same tower. Those that are on this plan and have gone over the 22gb if data will experience a slower connection for the time period until they leave and connect to a different tower. Also includes calls to Mexico and Canada whether you're here or there. $85 bucks $80 with auto pay.
"Go unlimited" this plan has no high speed lte hotspot. But you have unlimited 3g hot spot. You are not prioritized, you can be slowed down on a busy tower wether you have used 1gb or 100gb of data. no Mexico no Canada. And 480p restriction for streaming. $80 bucks $75 with auto pay.
"Beyond unlimited" this is much like the first plan I listed. Everything is the same except there's a 720p restriction on streaming and it's $90 bucks $85 with autopay.
Hopefully you jumped on the first plan when u had the chance. All they accomplished by splitting the plan into two was confused the hell out of me. Lol. Let me know if you need anything else and answered. I'm always willing to help! I love verizon where I live. It's pretty much king here. I switched jobs and service from T-Mobile. I hate that my Pixel 2 XL is locked but it's probably a blessing in disguise knowing my luck.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but this thread is on the unlocked device and your post reads Sooo reads like a Straight On Advertisement for Verizon Service Plans...WTH??
wiseguyy said:
I have it out of the box ....but I don't know why people think the VZ sold product is any different than the G-store item
Uhg..much reading later I think its going back...Seems the VZ version cannot get bootloader unlocked and if so it seems like a hell of a mess. Im just a simple flasher..or please correct me if I am wrong??
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My understanding is, you can buy both the Google version and the Verizon version from Google. BUT, the Verizon version from Google IS locked and from all that I've read, it's locked REAL tight, like many other Verizon devices are.
I think the confusion stems from those buying it outright from Google presume their Verizon device will be unlocked, and it isn't. It's the exact same device you'd get if you walked into a Verizon store (I'm sure there's a ton of legal wording preventing Google from selling Verizon branded unlocked devices.
I'm not sure why anyone would pay the same for a locked device over a unlockable device. If you're never going to unlock it, get the unlockable one JUST IN CASE you change your mind, if not, it's a selling feature for the future.
Hopefully this clears things up a bit.
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My understanding is, you can buy both the Google version and the Verizon version from Google. BUT, the Verizon version from Google IS locked and from all that I've read, it's locked REAL tight, like many other Verizon devices are.
I think the confusion stems from those buying it outright from Google presume their Verizon device will be unlocked, and it isn't. It's the exact same device you'd get if you walked into a Verizon store (I'm sure there's a ton of legal wording preventing Google from selling Verizon branded unlocked devices.
I'm not sure why anyone would pay the same for a locked device over a unlockable device. If you're never going to unlock it, get the unlockable one JUST IN CASE you change your mind, if not, it's a selling feature for the future.
Hopefully this clears things up a bit.
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Well I'm glad I didn't open it or break the bag seal it's gowing up on eBay tonight
wiseguyy said:
Well I'm glad I didn't open it or break the bag seal it's gowing up on eBay tonight
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What are you looking at getting next?
Az Biker said:
What are you looking at getting next?
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I'm fortunate I got a N8 and I have just ordered the same 128 device from G in Panda style hopefully that will fetch more than the just black model when I move on again next year...But I'm Sooo praying to that Beanstown comes to the PXL2 soon. Hell ASAP I ran his PN rom and it was the sh**.
The guy's just a ROM savant
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I'm fortunate I got a N8 and I have just ordered the same 128 device from G in Panda style hopefully that will fetch more than the just black model when I move on again next year...But I'm Sooo praying to that Beanstown comes to the PXL2 soon. Hell ASAP I ran his PN rom and it was the sh**.
The guy's just a ROM savant
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N8? Nokia 8?
No arguing how good Nate's Roms are... This is my 3rd device running PN.
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N8? Nokia 8?
No arguing how good Nate's Roms are... This is my 3rd device running PN.
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Note 8... I'm simply dying to find out if and when he's going to roll over to the pxl 2
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Note 8... I'm simply dying to find out if and when he's going to roll over to the pxl 2
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In the event you didn't catch it in the 6P thread, he said he purchased a 2 XL.
I asked him if the development would be similar for the 2 and the 2 XL and he said absolutely.
So, it's coming
Just an interesting discovery today with putting in my Project Fi sim card - works like a charm on my 7T device. Very happy with this discovery.
Hopefully, this helps other people if in doubt if this will work on 7T.
It should work...but only on the TMo towers and not the Sprint ones.
Zmajvitez said:
Just an interesting discovery today with putting in my Project Fi sim card - works like a charm on my 7T device. Very happy with this discovery.
Hopefully, this helps other people if in doubt if this will work on 7T.
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Do you get visual voicemail, spam call filtering, wifi calling?
BoboBrazil said:
Do you get visual voicemail, spam call filtering, wifi calling?
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Wifi calling is working, the other two I need to check. I'm currently in Australia so very happy I can get data this way with my 7T.
I will be going to Germany soon so I'll keep reporting on spam filtering and visual voicemail.
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Do you get visual voicemail, spam call filtering, wifi calling?
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VoLTE and visual voicemail.
Wish we weren't stuck with tmobile and had the network switching abilities.
Has anyone figured that out? Dialer codes and apps won't allow switching. Is it a software component ?
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VoLTE and visual voicemail.
Wish we weren't stuck with tmobile and had the network switching abilities.
Has anyone figured that out? Dialer codes and apps won't allow switching. Is it a software component ?
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It is Sprint. They don't allow anything other than devices in their IMEI inventory whitelist to provision and use their towers. The only 1+ device in the history of ever they allowed on their Network is the carrier and bootloader locked 7Pro5G.
The limitation is purely towerside due to Sprint being jerks.
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It is Sprint. They don't allow anything other than devices in their IMEI inventory whitelist to provision and use their towers. The only 1+ device in the history of ever they allowed on their Network is the carrier and bootloader locked 7Pro5G.
The limitation is purely towerside due to Sprint being jerks.
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Give it time. Sprint may finally be going away if the merger with T-Mobile goes through. then it will be one service with slightly less sucky signal lol
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Give it time. Sprint may finally be going away if the merger with T-Mobile goes through. then it will be one service with slightly less sucky signal lol
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Last count there were 20 states suing to stop the merger...and even if it does go through, I'd expect the overhaul or Sprint's towers/backend to take years. Feasibly, they could flip a switch and just inventory whitelist all the TMo authorized handsets instantly with the flick of a switch....Or axe the inventory whitelist completely.
I was a Sprint customer for 20 years until this fall, switched to Visible (Verizon MVNO)...unless they axe all the fools who made the decisions for the last 2 decades, not much will change. Sprint after all tried for half a decade to push WiMax rather than LTE. My last handset with them (OPENUS PH-1), it took fighting for 10 calendar days to get them to add ONE IMEI to their whitelist that should have been there all along. With several Sprint reps telling me it couldn't be done--and reminding me about the Shiney carrier-locked Samsungs on sale.
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Last count there were 20 states suing to stop the merger...and even if it does go through, I'd expect the overhaul or Sprint's towers/backend to take years. Feasibly, they could flip a switch and just inventory whitelist all the TMo authorized handsets instantly with the flick of a switch....Or axe the inventory whitelist completely.
I was a Sprint customer for 20 years until this fall, switched to Visible (Verizon MVNO)...unless they axe all the fools who made the decisions for the last 2 decades, not much will change. Sprint after all tried for half a decade to push WiMax rather than LTE. My last handset with them (OPENUS PH-1), it took fighting for 10 calendar days to get them to add ONE IMEI to their whitelist that should have been there all along. With several Sprint reps telling me it couldn't be done--and reminding me about the Shiney carrier-locked Samsungs on sale.
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How is visible? Thinking about get a separate line with them.
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How is visible? Thinking about get a separate line with them.
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I'll put it this way....with their Party Pay route, my bill is $25/month prepaid for one line with unlimited talk/text/data/hotspot; and it works with 1+7T which Sprint doesn't. The few caveats are:
-No VZW off-network-roaming
-CONUS+Alaska/Hawaii only, no US territories AKA Puerto Rico etc.
-and then there's potentially the big one....If your local tower is having high-congestion, your data traffic gets "deprioritised" greatly. Which can be a big thing in major metro areas/cities. This is a hyper-local thing though.
For anyone who lives in the VZW blanket of coverage and suburbia/rural land, it is quite the steal. My Far City is just small enough I don't get deprioritised.
Activation was quick and painless...although I had to request an iPhone SIM to get around an IMEI database thing early on with the 7T. Once activated pay your bill, and if you want out--don't pay it and you are done.
I also cannot switch to us celluar either
Skripka said:
I'll put it this way....with their Party Pay route, my bill is $25/month prepaid for one line with unlimited talk/text/data/hotspot; and it works with 1+7T which Sprint doesn't. The few caveats are:
-No VZW off-network-roaming
-CONUS+Alaska/Hawaii only, no US territories AKA Puerto Rico etc.
-and then there's potentially the big one....If your local tower is having high-congestion, your data traffic gets "deprioritised" greatly. Which can be a big thing in major metro areas/cities. This is a hyper-local thing though.
For anyone who lives in the VZW blanket of coverage and suburbia/rural land, it is quite the steal. My Far City is just small enough I don't get deprioritised.
Activation was quick and painless...although I had to request an iPhone SIM to get around an IMEI database thing early on with the 7T. Once activated pay your bill, and if you want out--don't pay it and you are done.
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I tried it for a few days on my 7t. The lack of wifi calling did it in for me. They said it would work, but of course didn't. 2 of their techs and the website said it would. Long story short I complained and now their website was updated to show the lack of wifi calling on a OnePlus device. Unfortunately Verizon still uses a lot of cdma in my area which makes an LTE only phone a no go without WiFi calling.
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I tried it for a few days on my 7t. The lack of wifi calling did it in for me. They said it would work, but of course didn't. 2 of their techs and the website said it would. Long story short I complained and now their website was updated to show the lack of wifi calling on a OnePlus device. Unfortunately Verizon still uses a lot of cdma in my area which makes an LTE only phone a no go without WiFi calling.
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Hopefully not much longer. Verizon is shutting down CDMA at the end of 2019, AKA in a calendar month.
WOW that's a charm for me
I will try it as soon as possible. Thank you for sharing!