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Does anyone else have issues with the WiFi connection while the screen is turned off? I noticed that not a single one of my music streaming / radio apps work when the screen isn't on. It works for maybe a minute before all sound just stops. Starts just fine again once I power up the screen.
Has there been any changes done to the handling of these matters in ICS perhaps?
Pretty annoying not being able to stream music over WiFi as I think I'll hit my 5GB limit on data pretty fast if I can't use the WiFi at work for this.
So has anyone else noticed these issues?
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Does anyone else have issues with the WiFi connection while the screen is turned off? I noticed that not a single one of my music streaming / radio apps work when the screen isn't on. It works for maybe a minute before all sound just stops. Starts just fine again once I power up the screen.
Has there been any changes done to the handling of these matters in ICS perhaps?
Pretty annoying not being able to stream music over WiFi as I think I'll hit my 5GB limit on data pretty fast if I can't use the WiFi at work for this.
So has anyone else noticed these issues?
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Yeah same here. I remember this being an issue with Android 2.1 for my Desire but was fixed in custom roms. Might be the same situation here again.
I remember this being an issue with my Nexus One, don't remember if it was fixed in 2.2 or 2.3. I remember testing file transfer using SwiFTP, with the bug the file transfer would go down to double digits (kB/sec), with the bug fix it would be a few hundred kB/sec, with the screen on it would hit mB/sec or so (in any Android version).
I believe this is the official issue:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9781
With my Nexus S I'm not experiencing this bug. Sscreen on still gives me a major wifi speed boost, but screen off I get a few hundred kB/sec, which should be more than enough for any streaming app. KiloBYTES btw, not bits. I'm surprised ICS and/or Galaxy Nexus brought this problem back. Or it could be something else entirely.
Are you connected via 2.4GHz or 5GHz wifi? I would think the new 5GHz radio in the GN probably has more aggressive power saving features. Try switching to 802.11b/g (instead of 802.11n, in any frequency), see if it helps.
Have you changed your WIFI sleep policy?
On my Froyo phone, if you hit menu while in the WIFI settings (I know there is no menu in ICS) you get an option to go into advanced settings where you have the option to choose your WiFi sleep policy (When screen turns off, never when plugged in, never).
There should be a way to access that advanced settings area somewhere.. My phone is a couple hundred miles away right now and I won't see it for another week so I can't be of much further help right now. However, there "was" a setting in previous versions.
best info at the time last year was here for the N1
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=01a47ff5b0a92d52&hl=en
7xx replies there to read, but really good info. somewhere in there, maybe around#600 the info gets good, can't remember. But shortly around this time the problem was gone/fixed.
there was a guy with an app i think it was wifi fixer, i could be wrong. that worked sometimes, but battery drain was bad. Whatever google, or CM did fixed the low power save mode issue. I'm thinking it was something at the kernel level?
edit, on second thought, there's no good reason to read all that. You won't get a fix out of it anyway. It was updated away in the end, something related to MAC addresses and build numbers and frf50 or some such.
BUT this seems like the same kind of thing going on in the power save mode.
Have you checked your advanced settings?
Wi-Fi>>(settings [bottom right])>>Advanced>>Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep...
Mine was set to always by default, so I suspect that the issue lies else where...
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Have you checked your advanced settings?
Wi-Fi>>(settings [bottom right])>>Advanced>>Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep...
Mine was set to always by default, so I suspect that the issue lies else where...
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Same here. Mine was set to always by default but still getting this issue.
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I would suggest that this issue is related to the individual applications you are using, rather than anything to do with Android.
I am able to stream music from Google Music via WiFi just fine when the screen is off, and I am also able to talk to someone on Skype via WiFi just fine when the screen is off.
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I would suggest that this issue is related to the individual applications you are using, rather than anything to do with Android.
I am able to stream music from Google Music via WiFi just fine when the screen is off, and I am also able to talk to someone on Skype via WiFi just fine when the screen is off.
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Thanks for posting that; I was getting pretty worried and disappointed after reading this thread. I had to deal with this when I first got my Nexus One, until Google released the 2.2.1 update with a new Broadcom driver which finally fixed the issue. No streaming, no pushes, just nothing at all from wifi when the phone went to sleep. All traffic to/from the phone would just stop. It was maddening.
The Galaxy Nexus comes to Canada a week from today, and this would've been a show-stopper for me. At least it's working for you, so my day isn't ruined quite yet
Has this issue ever been nailed down? I've seen considerable discussion on it going back years. I've seen considerable speculation regarding WIFI mode and Governor. I've seem many of the bug reports marked closed.
Yet I have a GN on v4.0.4 and the moment the screen goes off - either because you turn it off or it just times out - the WIFI goes to h*ll. I've run ping and network trace from both sides and there is no doubt the WIFI stays connected, however latency goes way up and packets are lost... and with TCP connections it gets congested with retransmits. I've run with the governor set to "Performance" and there is no difference.
So, is there any consensus on what is causing this problem with current stock hardware/software?
I read that it's something that's been coded in for a while. Try using this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ratcash.wifiperf
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Ok, to answer my own question, this is still related to the PSP issue from years ago:
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9781
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15549
Bottom line is that some hardware - like GN - has an additional level of PSP on WIFI. The issue was resolved by inclusion of an additional lock mode - WIFI_MODE_FULL_HIGH_PERF - some time ago. However, its up to an application to request the new lock state if it thinks it needs it. Many don't.
So, its probably not a bad idea to contact developers of the various applications and recommend they look into the new lock level in the later APIs.
Also, the "WIFI High Performance Widget" can be used to manually hold a WIFI_MODE_FULL_HIGH_PERF lock on the WIFI if you're dealing with an application that isn't doing it its self. Beware of the other "WIFI fixes" out there, none of the ones I tested were acquiring the correct lock.
Also, from an adb shell you can use "dumpsys wifi" to see who is holding what lock, for example:
Code:
Locks acquired: 5 full, 5 full high perf, 5 scan
Locks released: 4 full, 4 full high perf, 5 scan
Locks held:
WifiLock{PANDORA type=1 [email protected]}
WifiLock{HighPerformance type=3 [email protected]}
Here you can see Pandora is only holding type=1 (WIFI_MODE_FULL) and HighPerformance is holding type=3 (WIFI_MODE_FULL_HIGH_PERF). Dumping the WIFI state takes the guess work out of it.
Tried that widget, having absolutely no luck with 'in tune' and 'winamp' for radio with the galaxy nexus verizon...
as soon as the device sleeps, wifi goes to hell and buffer drops in and out every 2 seconds. Completely unusable, any recent fixes? this is totally making me think I just bought a $400 brick since this feature was very important for me.
What may be confusing about that widget is that it is a "widget". You have to locate it under "widgets" and then put it on the surface and then click it to enable it... it should be blue when on, and black when its not.
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What may be confusing about that widget is that it is a "widget". You have to locate it under "widgets" and then put it on the surface and then click it to enable it... it should be blue when on, and black when its not.
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I have been trying to put the 'widget' itself (2x2 square) on the home screen but even if i hold and drag it to where I want it, it never actually appears on the screen. And of course i'm still getting crazy ping times...Does anyone else have this working on a GN (verizon - not that it should make a difference)?
I have found a few workarounds to this issue, none are great and frustrate me greatly.
1. Root and use the franco kernel. Seems people with that have no issues - since you can set? the wifi to full performance.
2. Use this wifi performance widget
3. Use an app that has properly set its own wifi settings. - Going through all the radio apps on the google market, i am finding only one app that seems to be doing this right: DI Radio - some kind of dance/techno/etc - confirmed it with ping times, they remain low on sleep.
Not one other radio app seems to have set 'proper' settings - which shows that something needs to be addressed in the os...I was having good luck with the yahoo music app, but depended on the stream (maybe some buffer more :dunno - the ping results are garbage.
EDIT: I tried installing high performance wifi again, and finally got the widget to one of the homescreens! Let me break it down for anyone else who comes across this. After install, the small 1x1 blue app box is put on your desktop and the black screen comes up with the wireless networks and a checkbox. I then went to apps->widgets and tried putting the 2x2 widget on the home screen again, and like always it clicks on like its there (and when you click home and its never there). However, this time I hit BACK instead of home after dropping the widget and it took me back to the black screen with the checkbox, then i hit home and voila its sitting there. You can click on it like you mentioned! Confirmed with ping for tune in...pings remain low.
If this continues to work, it may be a godsend. It is annoying having to have this, but far far better than not.
I had that problem also especially when i tried to download big files when the screen turn off the download speed became extremely slow, this widget solve this, i think to that moment its the easiest solution tap it when you need it tap it again when you done.
By the way i had this problems with franko kernel also and again to my opinion it is the good solution for now, until the apps developers update their apps.
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If you download the SDK - you only need Android SDK Platform-tools - to a PC and use the adb shell it is easy to dump the WiFi lock state with dumpsys wifi and see exactly which app(s) are holding what locks. Completely takes all of the guessing out of who is doing what when. Judging the behavior can be subjective because there are other reasons that the WiFi can break up which can be very frustrating.
developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
Erlang2012 said:
I had that problem also especially when i tried to download big files when the screen turn off the download speed became extremely slow, this widget solve this, i think to that moment its the easiest solution tap it when you need it tap it again when you done.
By the way i had this problems with franko kernel also and again to my opinion it is the good solution for now, until the apps developers update their apps.
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The app does work well, however I have been running into some issues as I continue to use it. It randomly decides to turn off the forced max wifi (even though its still blue and looks like its operating) or perhaps the phone is forcing the wifi issue again. It seems to happen when you are downloading, playing with some other apps? You only notice it when you sleep it and the streaming radio immediately starts having issues.
Solution is to flip back to the widget turn it off and turn it on again. It works, but is another annoyance.
I haven't yet ascertained exactly what causes it to switch off yet.
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If you download the SDK - you only need Android SDK Platform-tools - to a PC and use the adb shell it is easy to dump the WiFi lock state with dumpsys wifi and see exactly which app(s) are holding what locks. Completely takes all of the guessing out of who is doing what when. Judging the behavior can be subjective because there are other reasons that the WiFi can break up which can be very frustrating.
developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
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I will look into this, thank you.
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I used the adb shell (learned how to install all these dev tools and how to use it first ) and here is some updated info:
Tunein = type=1
Pandora = type=1
Audioaddict service (Digitally imported app I posted above previously) = type=3
google music = type=3
High performance app = type=3 (havent figured out why this likes to stop randomly)
I will update with more app info, hopefully others can also email the developers and see that it gets fixed, so we no longer have to use damn workarounds...
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... It randomly decides to turn off the forced max wifi (even though its still blue and looks like its operating)...
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Yes, it definitely has an issue holding its lock, and it definitely seems related to another application taking over and also when it switches to cell and back, I can confirm that. It may be related to the OS since the widget thinks it still on when clearly the lock as been released, so it may be that the OS released the lock and the widget has no idea. I haven't taken the time to look into the details yet, and this is something we should make the developer aware of.
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Yes, it definitely has an issue holding its lock, and it definitely seems related to another application taking over and also when it switches to cell and back, I can confirm that. It may be related to the OS since the widget thinks it still on when clearly the lock as been released, so it may be that the OS released the lock and the widget has no idea. I haven't taken the time to look into the details yet, and this is something we should make the developer aware of.
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Yup, from what I can see it loses lock:
1. when cell switching
2. manually killing/starting wifi
3. when ANY application is downloaded/removed (ie. changes in permissions)
4. when playing with dolphin, other apps for more than a few minutes, it will kill it even though the blue stays lit. I think its as you mentioned, during general use of the phone, at some point some permissions are changed and hifi performance is tossed off its lock.
If you only are streaming music and re enter the phone to check a gmail alert or two...it seems to be fine. otherwise you need to hit the lock widget one more time before sending it to sleep with pandora/tune in playing.
Just wanted to start a thread to discuss this device. For those not familiar with it, it's a very inexpensive 11.6" laptop that runs RemixOS 2.0 from the factory. It does NOT have a touchscreen and the display is a low resolution (1366x768) TN panel display. The CPU is an Allwinner A64 Cortex A53 quad-core 64-bit processor.
The device I purchased (via their Kickstarter campaign) has 2gb RAM and 32gb storage - and it costs me $89.
Some interesting things I've found so far...
1. To disable the damn "click" sound every time you select something (via the touchpad or a mouse), download the QuickShortcutMaker application from the play store. Then expand the Settings items under the Activities section and find the "Other Sounds" activity. Once you click on the Other Sounds activity, click on "Try" on the right-hand side - this will open the "Other Sounds" dialog where you disable "Touch Sounds"! You can also disable some other sounds here. No idea why Remix doesn't allow access to these sound options. Explore the other Settings activities - there are some other cool things you can do. I also used this app to create "Shortcuts" to specific forums in Tapatalk (something that you do via widgets in standard Android). This QuickShortcutMaker app is pretty damn useful on this device!
2. I've found that I was able to connect my Apple USB->Ethernet adapter to this device and it works! However, it doesn't seem to work with ALL apps. For example, Tapatalk doesn't work with it for some reason - but so far, every other app has worked. You can also access ethernet settings via the QuickShortcutMaker app mentioned above.
3. Enable "Experimental Features" by clicking on the "Kernel Version" section of Settings->About. Once you do this, enable the "Use mouse wheel to simulate swipe gesture". This allows you to zoom in and out of things like web pages, images, etc. To do this, hold down CTRL+ALT while moving the mouse wheel. Apparently, the touchpad on this device does NOT provide pinch-to-zoom functionality, so without this setting, there is no way to zoom in and out in most apps! Kind of a big issue! Unless there is another way that I just don't know about. I know you can CTRL- and CTRL+ to zoom in and out in web pages, but that really just increases the size of the text - not really a true zoom in/out.
4. Gmail app. If you open the Gmail app as a window, you don't get the "split-screen" that you get if you open the app in full screen. But if you open in as a full-screen window and then "restore" it to a smaller window, the split-sceen function still works. I usually just leave Gmail minimized in order to keep the split-screen function active for Gmail.
5. Sometimes, the screen comes back on if you put the device into standby with the power button and then close the lid. I haven't been able to find the exact circumstances where the screen comes back on when closed, but it seems that when it does come on when it's closed, it stays on! Need to figure out why this occurs..
6. Bottom of device gets REALLY hot after any extended use. May be a long-term issue...
7. By default, wifi is set to turn off when in standby (unlike tablets) - unless the device is plugged in - then wifi will stay on. This can all be changed under Settings->Wifi->Advanced. I actually set mine to always turn wifi off when in standby since it seems that the device doesn't actually work while in standby anyway (again, unlike tablets). May help avoid wifi failure over the long-term.
8. I have run into websites (such as microcenter.com) where when you open a drop-down list, there is no way to "scroll" the list if it goes off the screen. To see what I mean, go to microcenter.com and try to set the store location - it opens a drop-down list that goes off the screen and there is no way to scroll down in the list! The "work-around" is to use the down arrow key, but it doesn't work very well (web page wants to update every time you press the down arrow)....
That's about it off the top of my head... It's a shame that this device cannot upgrade to RemixOS 3.0, like was stated in the kickstarted campaign (and later "retracted").
Anyone know how to root this thing?
It's an interesting device for the cost, but what I *really* want is a similar, large'ish device with a higher-quality, higher-resolution touchscreen that is removable from the keyboard - with at least 2gb of RAM (10" and 1gb of RAM isn't enough for RemixOS!) and runs RemixOS 3.0 - so far, I can't seem to find such a device...
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I got the same model 2GB w/32GB storage. Do you or anyone know how to get it to charge and or power on. Mine only worked for 2 days, now nothing. I contacted Azpen over a week ago about it and still haven't heard from them. Please help.
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I got the same model 2GB w/32GB storage. Do you or anyone know how to get it to charge and or power on. Mine only worked for 2 days, now nothing. I contacted Azpen over a week ago about it and still haven't heard from them. Please help.
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I just plugged mine in and it charged fine (blue LED next to charging port turns on when charging and turns off when fully charged).
To turn mine on, I just held down the power button on the keyboard for a while... You can also fully power it off that way as well (if it gets hung or something, which I have managed to do a few times now).
I've *really* put this thing through it's paces over the last few days. Overall, it's a decent device for the price. Personally, I'd rather spend a little more for one with a better, higher-res, removable touchscreen though.
I also have a HP Slatebook 10 x2 - and it's a great device, but stuck on Android 4. Otherwise, it has a MUCH nicer, removable touchscreen and even an extra battery in the keyboard (that charges the tablet when attached). Just wish it was a little bigger (13" or so) and was running Remix OS.
But, for $89, I can't complain, my A1160 actually runs pretty well for what it is...Luckily, I haven't had any issues with mine.
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Hello...
@jtrosky, thanks for starting this thread, i've already gotten something out of it... getting rid of that damn clicking every keypress.
It was also nice to find that quickshortcutmaker, thats really a cool app that seems to allow more access than I could find...
Everyone else, hello!
I am an PC user since 84' and an Apple iPad user since, well the day the ipad 2 came out and now I'm on the iPad now. The only reason I say any of this is because the reason I got this Azpen A1160 was to help learn a bit about android and linux. I would also like to figure out how to get to the root...
Knock on wood but I got this three days ago and have literally beaten the software out of it loading, looking, deleting, and I thought I had screwed it up several times but it just keeps on ticking. The back does get a little warm, I haven't actually measured it yet but I'm going to, but I dont think it's too bad. I've run six full charges on battery and worked on it plugged in. (which it doesn't seem to like)
I'm happy with it right now and I think its going be a fun ride. I bet this is going to be a fun place to be in the next couple of months...
Buddy
Oh - one more thing I found out - and this may be well known already for those more familiar with RemixOS. If you click and hold on the little icons on the bottom-right of the taskbar, you can move them around. So, for example, you can make it so the brightness, volume, bluetooth and wifi icons are always visible, even when that section is "collapsed"...
Also - I *love* having the key to disable the touchpad (the key next to the arrow keys). Since I usually use a bluetooth mouse, it's so nice being able to disable the trackpad so quickly and easily!
Oh - and the Prtscr button on the keyboard brings up the very cool screen capture tool, which let's you select what area of the screen to capture. Very handy tool!
Still not sure what the "Pausc" button does - I'm assuming it's actually a misprint and it's supposed to say "Pause". Gotta love cheap electronics that are made in China!
So far, this device is definitely working well for me. Although, I'm not so sure the screen is big enough to truly take advantage of the RemixOS windowing capabilities... But, it's still better than not having any windowing capabilities.
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One more quick tip - there are apps out there that will let you boost the volume of the device. Right now, I'm using Music Volume EQ to boost the volume, but there are probably better apps out there for this purpose... Will explore more later and post an update if I find a better app.
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Hello guys, thank you for creating this thread.
Did anyone have any issue by setting up a password for the lock screen?
I did, and it worked for a couple of times, then it started not to recognize the password (password was correct, no caps lock...). Of course it didn't work after reboot as well.
The only option was to remotely reset the device using the google's tool from another pc. Very annoying. Since then never tried to set another security system for the screen lock.
I'm also getting an a problem after turning off the screen: when I try to turn it on again, most of the time I get a blank screen. I have to try several times to get back to remix os.
Did anyone faced this issue as well?
Regards
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Hello guys, thank you for creating this thread.
Did anyone have any issue by setting up a password for the lock screen?
I did, and it worked for a couple of times, then it started not to recognize the password (password was correct, no caps lock...). Of course it didn't work after reboot as well.
The only option was to remotely reset the device using the google's tool from another pc. Very annoying. Since then never tried to set another security system for the screen lock.
I'm also getting an a problem after turning off the screen: when I try to turn it on again, most of the time I get a blank screen. I have to try several times to get back to remix os.
Did anyone faced this issue as well?
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I have not tried setting up the lock screen (I just leave mine unlocked). And no, I have not had any issues with a blank screen when turning the device back up. What's strange is that the device does not automatically turn on when opening the screen - at least not on my device - I have to press the power button.
Your issues are probably because of the poor quality control with these device. Somehow, I lucked out and got a "good one", but many people seem to be having build-quality issues with them...
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Great posts and many thanks to the OP.
I got a US 2 pin power plug instead of a UK plug. Does anyone know of a similar products power lead that will fit our A1160?
Need help...
Hi,
First, thanks for creating this thread and posting your tips. Obviously there are not a lot of people using this device yet so it is great to find useful info on it.
Since there is no known root solution yet, I tried installing NetGuard as an adbllocking solution that does not require root. I have used it before without any issues. Unfortunately, on the Azpen, every time that I enable it, it blocks all internet access (it is obviously not supposed to do that). I even tried alternative apps like AdClear and got the exact same result. There is something strange going on with the Azpen. I would really appreciate it if anyone had any pointers as to how I could resolve this.
Thanks...
Welp! I had much higher hopes for this device and I haven't even received mine yet! Will this be rootable?
Thanks for creating this, used both your sound clicking tip and the pinch to zoom in. A bit annoying having your fingers in multiple place to zoom in, but what can you do? I'm a college student and have found that I can't access the net with this device due to it's mac address changing each time. I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this or if mine is the only one. Just thought I would share that.
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Thanks for creating this, used both your sound clicking tip and the pinch to zoom in. A bit annoying having your fingers in multiple place to zoom in, but what can you do? I'm a college student and have found that I can't access the net with this device due to it's mac address changing each time. I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this or if mine is the only one. Just thought I would share that.
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That is *really* interesting! Sure enough, if I disable and re-enable the wifi, the MAC address does change!! That makes absolutely no sense - I've never seen such a thing!
I'll look into that a little more - but without root, I doubt there is anything that can be done about it. So strange!
One possible option - set wifi to stay enabled all of the time - maybe that way the MAC will stay the same. You can set that in the wifi settings advanced options. I've found that you have to reboot after setting it to always stay active....
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So far I have been impressed for the cost of this unit. I have a few concerns and wanted to see if anyone had input:
1. Since the length of the power chord is so short. Is it possible to use a USB to Barrel jack type of adapter to power this? That way you can attach to a portable power bank?
2. battery power, I find it to not last that long and I find it takes forever to charge. I thought that this would last 5-7 hours unplugged, nope. It was supposed to charge within in a hour, nope. Any ideas on this?
I use an external mouse and click on the trackpad disable button. I find it much easier to use the computer when typing.
I'm looking at Pinebook, a notebook having the same AllWinner processor (CortexA53).
It seems this notebook can run all OSs suppoted by Pine64, such as Android, some linux distro, Windows IOT and they are working on a Chroimum porting (try to have a look at the pin64 forum).
Do you think it would be possible to do the same with A1160 ?
Another solution could be PhoenixOs (as pointed out in some comment on Kickstarter).
There are already some devices with CortexA53 processor running PhoenixOS out of the box.
I honestly don't know what OS's can be ported over to this device yet. I have a feeling that it's never going to have a huge user base though, so I wouldn't expect much from the developers out there.
Now that Chromebooks can run Android apps, this device just isn't quite as interesting as it once was. Basically, you can now get an inexpensive, *high quality* Chromebook and still have most of the advantages of this device, plus the high quality and frequent updates part.
To be completely honest, I have very low expectations for this device in the long-term. With how hot it gets after any real usage, I expect the mainboard to fail in short order. We'll see. Although, so far, I've really been using it pretty heavily and it does seem to be holding up, but it's only been about a week....
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Something else I recently noticed - and this may already be a well-known thing with RemixOS... If you close an app by clicking the back arrow on the top-left of the window, you continue to get notifications for that app. But if you close it by clicking the "X" in the top-right of the window, it seems to completely the kill the process and you no longer receive notifications (or if it's an app that stays around and puts a "permanent" notification in the notification tray, the "x" seems to completely stop the app as well and removes its notification item).
At least that's what seems to happen...
Also noticed that even if you setup wifi to stay active even with power off, the unit eventually goes into a "deep sleep" where you will no longer get new email notifications, etc. It even seems to turn wifi off after a while (even though it's set to stay on all of the time).
Lastly, if you have an external mouse connected, close the laptop lid and then move the mouse, it turns the screen back on - even while closed!
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Hi All,
Saw this in the comments and thought I would chip in with my experience so far.
I got the 64GB version and so far it is the computer I have paid for.
The track pad as everyone said is very crappy, but I just use an external mouse instead so its not a big problem.
I seem to have a good unit and don't have any problems with the unit.
My only gripe is that the battery kinda sucks and after using it intensive for like 3-4 hrs, it will have almost no battery. I wish it came with my UK adapter instead of the US one, but its okay.
Furthermore, is there anyway to put widgets on it? or Use another launcher?
Has anyone tried to root it or tried to install another OS on top of it? I heard that PhoenixOs is possible?
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Hi All,
The track pad as everyone said is very crappy, but I just use an external mouse instead so its not a big problem.
Furthermore, is there anyway to put widgets on it? or Use another launcher?
Has anyone tried to root it or tried to install another OS on top of it? I heard that PhoenixOs is possible?
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For what it's worth, my trackpad actually works really well. I was surprised to read all of the complaints about it. I'm guessing that a lot of them are defective?
Regarding the widgets, no - there is no way to use Widgets in Remix OS 2.0 (not sure about 3.0), which is a huge limitation. Widgets are one of the things that make Android so powerful - and I miss them big time in Remix OS...
I too would like to know if there is a way to load PhoenixOS on this device. I thought I saw it mentioned somewhere that it would be possible (maybe one of the updates on Kickstarter?). I will see if I can email Azpen about this. RemixOS 2.0 is really good, but not quite "finished" in my opinion...
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Hi! Does somebody receive a blank white screen when laptop booting or waking up?
Every time when I push power button I get a blank white screen... How I can fix it?
Hi Guys,
I've been having a real hard time with this phone, I am sitting on the MIUI 10 stable global rom at the moment and I was wondering if you guys turn off MIUI optimization at all (in the developer settings) I'm not entirely sure what it does, but toggling it wipes out alot of permissions.
I've got 2 big issues with this phone. the Video Chat mic bug (Which I have seemed to get around by using WhatsApp for video chats)
The other being Android Auto not connecting all the time. I was wondering if maybe because this MIUI optimization is like a task killer that keeps killing stuff in the background?
When I need Android Auto to work, all I have to do is toggle USB Debugging and it fires up right away. Very strange, but it works for now.
Side Note for Xiaomi, Why do you need to lock down the phones like this? Android memory management works great, please don't mess with it. I just don't understand why we have these extra layers of security and permissions. It really messes with any third party apps, what an ordeal it is to get notifications working for example on any third part texting app. I have to go into like 3 different areas and then only sometimes it works. Please leave android alone, it works fine the way it is
I just turned them off. I guess we'll see how it goes.
Running lineageOS 17 on a xiaomi mi 9 lite, loving it, but i made a mistake.
I have my phone rooted and have been messing around with edxposed and magisk and i was trying to see if i could enable some sort of face unlock feature through a mod. found one called hidden settings and i started poking around, and i tried to change the value of this one called "lockscreen.options=enable_facelock" through the terminal, hoping it would enable a face recognition header in the settings somewhere, but instead, it had a very strange effect. first, that string no longer exists in android secure settings on my phone, and second, now my phone will not lock through normal means. using the power button, waiting for timeout, nothing, as soon as i wake the screen, the padlock icon is already open and the screen swipes itself up and goes to my unlocked home screen as though it had recognized my face and unlocked itself...only it didn't, because even trying this with my thumb over the camera has the same result.
anyway, i don't know what to do, but i need my phone to lock. so far the only thing ive tried that works is to use the lockdown mode button in my power menu, but that's a hassle. anyway, any help would be appreciated, my goal is to avoid a factory reset as well.
thanks in advance
Sorry, unofficial lineageOS 17 and magisk and edexposed. That is a highly experimental setup. You should be aware, there you have to start from scratch at some point. Be happy, if it's enough to wipe system and data. Others flash stock ROM to fix things.
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Sorry, unofficial lineageOS 17 and magisk and edexposed. That is a highly experimental setup. You should be aware, there you have to start from scratch at some point. Be happy, if it's enough to wipe system and data. Others flash stock ROM to fix things.
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actually it was simpler than I thought...turns out nothing was broken at all. in fact one element was functioning better than i expected it to. a while back i was messing around on my previous phone, a rooted oneplus 5 running resurrection remix, and i started fiddling with tasker...anyway, at some point i had issues with the native smart lock features so i set a profile in tasker to unlock the phone when the screen turns on as long as i am connected to my home wifi network. apparently when i restored all my apps to the new phone through my google account it saved a ghost of that profile...i didn't catch it because it wasn't listed in the tasker interface, so i assumed none of my old automations had transferred. i figured it out when other old profiles started to activate, and eventually i remembered that i hadn't set any of that stuff up on this phone yet :victory::laugh:
in any case, thank you for the input...to be honest i would rather have a less experimental setup, but the mi 9 lite doesn't have much development yet so i'm choosing the best from what is available.
Ok all, I'm getting quite frustrated with my P6P. Was on A12 and sideloaded the OTA for 13 Beta 4.1. I didn't want to lose any data but also didn't want to enroll in the beta program which would have pushed the OTA anyway.
Beta was working but definitely noticed a hit to battery life at first and some weird things like running warmer, phone being warm just sitting on the pixel stand fully charged, just generally not feeling right. The good news was, it seemed to have gotten a little better over the next few days of use but still not great so when I saw stable A13 released last week, instead of going back to 12, I committed to using the Android flash tool and fully flashing A13.
After flash, I chose to restore my Google One / Drive backup and omg the battery life was completely abysmal and running hot. We are talking losing 20% per hour of light usage, standby was losing 10%+ per hour and wasn't going into deep sleep at all. I thought at first it was my Galaxy Watch4 and the Samsung health app causing the majority of the issues but when I disabled "activity tracking" on the app, it didn't fully resolve the issues.
Other issues include: taking phone out of my pocket, screen sometimes doesn't wake up (I remember this was an issue with A12 but G eventually acknowledged and fixed but I guess it's back), connected via Bluetooth to my car (no Android auto) the ring tone is no longer playing when I get a call, generally feeling not as smooth, weird system usages showing up in accubattery and the Android battery manager as using good chunks of battery, etc.
At this point I got another idea: reflash A13 but don't restore from backup (which I hate doing because then I have to go through every single setting to find stuff I changed and set it again both in the system and on apps). It seems like that helped a little with stand by battery drain but still seems to be draining at a higher level while in use. The issue of screen not waking up sometimes is still present and now, I just saw this morning that I tap on the Google Play System Updates within the security menu and it does nothing. I was able to get into it yesterday morning and it found an update (still says July 1 though) but I didn't reboot to complete it until this morning. Now I can't get into it anymore at all. I also found some weird folders in my DCIM folder and another one that referenced icloud and iphone transfers but I've never been an iphone user.
I'm so frustrated with this phone lately and it seems like no matter what I do, I cannot get it to work right with multiple little things as well as battery drain.
Am I the only one? And if not, anyone have any ideas on how to fix my issues? Is it time to contact Google for an RMA? I was one of the launch day orders so I don't know if my specific hardware is the issue. I am now locked in to 13 bc of the bootloader thing, I didn't manually flash the BL to both slots, only used official flash tool which you'd think of this was a critical thing, Google would do that with the flash tool but I guess they can't get their left hand to recognize what the right hand is doing.
Just typing this post on Chrome browser for 10 mins, burned through 4% battery.
You're not the only one...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wddk1s
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Thanks for that reddit article but that's not exactly answering my questions. Yes I know I'm not the only one who's had battery issues and I've gone through all those steps up to and including reflashing cleanly and wiping.
What about the other stuff I'm having issues with? Anybody else experience any of those issues? Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
Essentially I'm debating on wiping again and/or reloading the OS again but if others are having the same or similar issues then it may just be Google being Google and releasing a buggy build (yet again).
Side note, I also just got a notification that Google One backup is currently running and to tap for more info but yet, I don't have it plugged it nor is the phone idle. It is on wifi though but I tapped the notification and nothing was happening. It said the last backup was at 3:37am. Also, I am now down another 10% of battery since posting this with barely any usage.
Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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I've had no issues with 13 but didn't have any on 12 either. Day one phone too.
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Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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I did what I thought was starting fresh the last time around (Sunday). Used the official flash tool and didn't restore anything from backup. All I did was add my Gmail accounts and then manually downloaded every app I use and then tried to set all the settings again in both system and apps to how I like them. Is there something I'm missing? Is there a difference between the pixel repair tool and the Android flash tool? What about the settings that are flash tool? I have them set to wipe, lock, and force flash everything. Not sure if that exists on pixel repair tool. I've also noticed a fairly large reduction in size of the backup that occured last night with the apps section showing only 44 apps at about 11.7MB in size when my previous backup was 60 apps at about 48.2MB. I'm thinking of just wiping/reflashing again for the 3rd time but restoring from backup this time since it really didn't make much difference.
How about the Google play system up bug thing? Can someone tap on it and see if it comes up checking for an update or if it does nothing like me. And when I say nothing, just the menu option to tap on just lights up but doesn't open anything. How about the issue with the screen not waking up if taken out of your pocket?
For what it's worth, I haven't started from scratch since I accidentally did last December (after originally setting my phone up in late October or in November). I used the Android 13 factory image over top of my existing install without wiping.
I'm under the impression that yes, there is a difference between the Pixel Repair Tool and the Android Flash Tool, but I've never actually used the Pixel Repair Tool. I know the first several months, at least, the Pixel Repair Tool hadn't yet been updated to work with the Pixel 6 Pro. It may have been updated since then, I just don't know for sure.
When I have wiped/factory reset in the past six years (starting with my Pixel 1), I always restore all or almost all data from Google's backup. I do have Swift Backup do automatic nightly backups as well, but I only restore data (through Swift Backup) for the apps that I really need to - definitely not very many.
Your settings for the Android Flash Tool sound fine.
Is the "Google Play System Up(date) bug where clicking on it doesn't do anything? If so, it doesn't do anything for me, either. Mine doesn't even light up, but I have dark mode on, plus using Pitch Black theme from AOSP mods.
I rarely have my phone in my pocket, so it probably just doesn't come up often enough for me to have noticed, so I can't confirm one way or the other.
Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Google Play Store v31.9.20-21 is rolling out and will fix that Play System Updates "bug".
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Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Here's another weird one.. apparently now I can't keep my phone on vibrate while in the car. For a test, I turned my ringer on and then tested it again.. low and behold, it rang through the speakers in my car. This is trash. I know Android enabled in-band Bluetooth audio years ago and I recall this same thing happening way back with my nexus 6p and each pixel I've had but this one. There was a setting in developer settings to turn that off which fixed it and allowed it to work correctly but with this phone, it worked out of the box so I never thought twice about it. I just checked the dev settings and it's nowhere to be found. I have no idea what A13 could have done to screw that up nor do I know if the dev setting even existed on this phone prior to A13. I just don't get it. I guess I could see if there's any updates to my car's multimedia system but I have an Audi and any software updates come from the dealer for a price. How dumb. I guess I'll be scouring the Audi forums for a fix on that.
Meh, the Google Play Store updates are irrelevant to me. So no worries there on my part, haha. But this phone's battery life has been rather questionable. I have, however, noticed that after being on the full A13 build for around a week or so and disabling 5G from the get-go that my battery now lasts MUCH longer. My phone does not seem to generate as much heat either - which is always a plus. But I also seem to have more phone/messaging reliability than I have had in the past with this device.
I am beginning to think that the modem and 5G has had the most to do with this phone's imperfections.
Also - for OP - but I have noticed that my phone often doesn't wake up with a single tap either - but only when the gyroscope stays mostly stationary for a longer period of time. When I pull the phone out of my pocket, it usually comes on with one tap. But if it has been sitting on a table or other mostly flat surface for a while, it takes two taps to wake the display.
Ultimately, I won't be getting the Pixel 7 Pro. I will, however, be getting the Pixel Fold which should launch at around the same time =).
I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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Well, aside from the bugs issue, as time goes on, more and more you need something besides what it ships with in order to actually have security and privacy. Google has fallen a very long way from the openness and respect that they once promised. The final straw for me was when they started working with governments to include and share covid contact tracing functionality.
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Apparently the 4th complete wipe and OS flash was apparently the trick to fix the majority of my phone's issues. I did restore from my backup this time because the last time that I started from scratch, it made no difference. I figured if it's still going to be buggy, I may as well have all my info and settings correct. It's now been about 24 hours. See below for status of my issues.
1. Massive battery drain - fixed for the most part. Still have to restrict Samsung Health app but for the most part, it seems to be back to normal.
2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
3. Play system update button broken - already found this wasn't an A13 bug. I still haven't gotten the fixed update of playstore but before this latest wipe and OS flash, I sideloaded the latest version and it fixed it.
4. Connected to Bluetooth in car no longer plays ringers out loud. - Weird one as I think this is part A13 because Google baked in a new BT stack that's been in development since A11 called gabeldorsche https://www.androidpolice.com/android-gabeldorsche-bluetooth-stack/ and partly my infotainment system in my car. I am not on the current version of the car's infotainment but since my car is a '14 Audi, it doesn't have OTA updates.
5. Heating up during normal use - seems to be fixed
6. Warm while on the pixel stand and fully charged - haven't been able to observe this one bc last night, I put the phone on the stand and by morning it was at 72% and not charging. No clue if that's a new bug or if it was just not sitting on there just right. Didn't really look into it but we'll see what happens tonight.
So that seems to be the majority. Overall the phone doesn't feel "weird" anymore and most things I was having trouble with appear to be resolved. Sort of ridiculous that I had to wipe and reload the OS 4 times though.
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2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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This one still may be around for me but perhaps not as severe as it was during the first 2 times I loaded 13. I just experienced it about an hour ago. Took phone out of my pocket to place on my desk at work and screen was black but the AOD did eventually come on by itself after about 10 long seconds. We'll see what happens.