How Can Install Montly Updates without loose Root and Custom Recovery? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi dudes! Im trying to find a way to install Monthly Updates without loose the root and the custom recovery, some body can tell me how? Because im really want update to Oreo but i want be root user and dont have to make a clean install system every month... exist the way? Please help.... And Thanks!

There's something here. Haven't tryed that yet
http://zidroid.com/update-google-nexus-devices-without-wiping-data/

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levels of rooting!

Greetings,
I am planning to buy the HTC desire 2day .. but am living in egypt.. so we didnt get the froyo update yet :/ .. so i was wondering if the lvl 1 rooting (named shell rooting) done to the desire using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 will allow me to install apps to the sd card and installing themes maybe.. because those are the only 2 things that i need that cant be done in the 2.1 stock ROM
I used the search feature.. but couldn't find anything about rooting levels .. the above thread mention there are 3 levels of rooting.. so i dont really know the difference.. never owned an android device before
Oh .. and i bricked my last htc phone after flashing a rom.. so i wont ever flash a custom rom again.. so here goes my next question.. i can root the phone and use the stock rom while enjoying the rooting features or do i have to install a custom rom? and when the official middle east froyo update is released can i easily unroot the phone and install the new update?
Kindly reply, i will wait for the reply b4 i buy the phone
Thnx in advance
Fady_0 said:
Greetings,
I am planning to buy the HTC desire 2day .. but am living in egypt.. so we didnt get the froyo update yet :/ .. so i was wondering if the lvl 1 rooting (named shell rooting) done to the desire using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 will allow me to install apps to the sd card and installing themes maybe.. because those are the only 2 things that i need that cant be done in the 2.1 stock ROM
I used the search feature.. but couldn't find anything about rooting levels .. the above thread mention there are 3 levels of rooting.. so i dont really know the difference.. never owned an android device before
Oh .. and i bricked my last htc phone after flashing a rom.. so i wont ever flash a custom rom again.. so here goes my next question.. i can root the phone and use the stock rom while enjoying the rooting features or do i have to install a custom rom? and when the official middle east froyo update is released can i easily unroot the phone and install the new update?
Kindly reply, i will wait for the reply b4 i buy the phone
Thnx in advance
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yes shell rooting will let you do everything you want to do, the only thing it lacks is write access to the nand chip while the device is booted, but it does allow it from recovery, dont worry about bricking, unrevoked is fool proof now
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 5 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
5- a bit offtopic: The only way i found to change themes without altering the stock rom is using 3 apps called : PandaHome,OpenHome and aHome (themes for these apps are even posted on the android market) .. but the thing is .. do they require a vanilla android or they are compatible with sense ui too?
Fady_0 said:
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 4 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
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1 unrevoked imho is more simple and more popular and tested
2 corect
3 you have to unroot
4 easier than rooting just download ruu file, run on your pc connected to phone and thats all. U will loose root+old rom+data+custom recovery image
BTW greetings to Egypt! Been there (HRG) at february and it was warm and nice
Fady_0 said:
Thanks for the reply
Okay last 5 questions lol ... plz bear with me... as i cant really risk losing another 700$ phone
1- am a bit confused... should i use unrevoked rooting or the lvl 1 rooting mentioned in link in the above post .. which one allows me to install apps on sd card and install themes with minimum alteration to the stock rom? anyone of them is 100% safe?
2- i can continue using my stock rom and still enjoy the rooting features.. no need to flash custom roms .. right?
3-am i going to be able to update my rooted phone when the official froyo is released or do i have to unroot it?
4- lets say that for any reason i have to use the phone's warranty ... so i have to unroot my phone 1st b4 going to htc .. is it easily done?
5- a bit offtopic: The only way i found to change themes without altering the stock rom is using 3 apps called : PandaHome,OpenHome and aHome (themes for these apps are even posted on the android market) .. but the thing is .. do they require a vanilla android or they are compatible with sense ui too?
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1. Go with Unrevoked, it's safe and most commonly used method for rooting HTC Desires, check your Hboot version beforehand to see if it's compatible (it should be if you're on 2.1 eclair) and just make sure you read the guide properly first and nothing should go wrong
Rooting will not give you A2SD or A2SD+, you'll have to install a custom ROM to get those benefits (or wait for Froyo with its own Apps2SD function)
You also won't be able to flash themes as the stock ROM is odexed and won't support it, you'll need to flash a deodexed custom ROM for that.. although you can use apps like LauncherPro to customise your phone a little.
2. Yup, rooting doesn't mean you have to change the ROM, it just means you have the choice to through the additional Recovery program installed during rooting
3. You can apply the OTA froyo update, it'll unroot your phone though.. you could use Unrevoked again to get root afterwards
4. I would definitely recommend unrooting the phone if possible before running a warranty claim, I haven't had to do it but I've read it's relatively easy
5. All the launcher/home replacements should work fine with Sense, i've got LauncherPro/Sense/Launcher2 (vanilla android home) all working fine on mine, just install ClearDefaultsHome so you can choose which Home screen you want
The safe option is wait for the Froyo update, it'll give you Apps2SD.. but personally I'm glad I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, made the phone so much better! It to follow all the rooting/flashing tutorials properly then you should be fine, though obviously there are risks involved.. as you already know!
Well, thanks to ur replies guys .. i am now the proud owner of an htc desire! :d

[Q] 2 Desire Root Questions

Hi
I've searched far and wide but I can't get a clear answer on my questions:
1) Is it possible to get root access to my HTC Desire WITHOUT loading another rom? I just want to uninstall some apps that I don't use.
2) If the answer in above is yes, would I still be able to get official firmware OTA updates?
Many thanks,
Hein
You have still got your normal rom after rooting it. Yes you can get the ota updates, but then you have to root it again.
What apps do you want to delete?
How to unistall system apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749166
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769528
Taqyon said:
Hi
I've searched far and wide but I can't get a clear answer on my questions:
1) Is it possible to get root access to my HTC Desire WITHOUT loading another rom? I just want to uninstall some apps that I don't use.
2) If the answer in above is yes, would I still be able to get official firmware OTA updates?
Many thanks,
Hein
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1.) Yes,with root,you're only giving yourself access to the phone's /system partition and a few more minor things (as well as giving it a custom made Recovery) .. doesnt effect your current/official rom in any way.
2.) Yes.
Thank you guys!!!!!!!!
Can I use unrevoked 3 without worrying that it will wipe my phone?
Yes, revolked don't wipe your device

random noob questions...

OK,
1st Hi all and thanks for not bashing my lack of knowledge. I have done many searches and am now more confused than before.
I am comming from a droid X, I did the z4 root on it to get wifi tether working, it was on 2.2.1 I believe. Well it went very good, but I never got a push for an update. Got the new GN on verizon and tried to restore it back to stock, didn't work, so instead of selling it I gave it to my mom. Also, did this on a friends and he did get the update push and lost the root and superuser access.
This story is just so you know I am a complete noob. Other than following someones set by set on using Z4 I have really not done anything and have some questions on my new phone.
1. why would I want to unlock the bootloader?
2. after reading about the wifi hotspot by svtp do I need to root?
3. If i root and/or unlock the bootloader will this stop the updates from google (main reason I bought the phone)?
4. I am not into overclocking or modding but I want to be able to have wifi if I ever need it. That is the only thing I want.
Basically I am looking to unlock the wifi and still get all the google updates, is this possible? As of right now I think buying the svtp app is my best bet, I just don't want an unexpected bill showing up.
ok, still not rooted or unlocked. cannot get svtp to work wifi
Follow this guide --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382163
re #1: you need to unlock the bootloader to do pretty much anything non standard with your phone.
Since unlocking the bootloader wipes all data on the phone it's a good idea to do it early. You can leave it otherwise stock while you think about it, you can even relock it if you need to return the phone for some reason.
Neither unlocking nor rooting the phone will stop you getting the OTAs, it's custom roms that will do that. However most OTAs will stop your root access because they reset the permissions on your su files.
hth
Clancy_s said:
Neither unlocking nor rooting the phone will stop you getting the OTAs, it's custom roms that will do that. However most OTAs will stop your root access because they reset the permissions on your su files.
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Just to add further to this... not only will custom ROMs stop you from getting OTA updates, having custom recovery (ClockworkMod) will prevent them from applying, even with the stock ROM. If using a stock ROM with custom recovery, you'll need to do the update manually. If you wait until you get the update notification, your phone should have downloaded the update to /cache. You can then use the custom recovery to apply the update. Alternatively, you can look on these forums for someone to post the URL to the OTA update zip file, download it, and flash it manually (this way you don't need to wait until your phone gets the update, you can download it and have it sooner).
In either case, you'll usually need to re-root, as stated. This is easier with a custom recovery, because you should just have to flash superuser immediately after flashing the update, before rebooting.
Until CM9 is stable, I'm running the stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery. I can download the OTA updates manually and flash them with ClockworkMod then flash superuser and I'm good to go. Custom recovery makes it nice and easy to retain root, as well as the ability to do nandroid backups, etc.

Help! Installing custom rom, kernel and rooting

Hi
I was wondering if some one would help me and answer some questions about rooting, installing custom roms and kernels on my LG G3 - D855. I am a complete novice when it comes to installing any 3rd party software on phones.
I wish to install a custom rom (Cyanengine mod 12 Android L 5.0.2) onto my phone and possibly a custom kernel to improve the battery life. I believe I have to root to do this as well?
One of my worries is that I could brick my phone. If I do this , is it fixable? What order should I go about installing the modifications? Root, rom , kernel? Root, kernel , rom? Also what is TWRP? Sorry for the amount of questions, but I would be really grateful if some one could explain the process, and any thing I should avoid.
Thanks Again
regards
Tom
tomsmith64 said:
Hi
I was wondering if some one would help me and answer some questions about rooting, installing custom roms and kernels on my LG G3 - D855. I am a complete novice when it comes to installing any 3rd party software on phones.
I wish to install a custom rom (Cyanengine mod 12 Android L 5.0.2) onto my phone and possibly a custom kernel to improve the battery life. I believe I have to root to do this as well?
One of my worries is that I could brick my phone. If I do this , is it fixable? What order should I go about installing the modifications? Root, rom , kernel? Root, kernel , rom? Also what is TWRP? Sorry for the amount of questions, but I would be really grateful if some one could explain the process, and any thing I should avoid.
Thanks Again
regards
Tom
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First you must root. Then you should install TWRP. TWRP is just an option you give your phone to do many things like flashing (placing) programs to your phone, backing up everything (Including your current ROM, data, apps, etc.), and deleting everything and wiping your device.
Bricking is possible, but if you follow a guide step-by-step you shouldn't. TWRP should be a major priority. You must root first, then you can do that. This custom recovery will allow you to backup everything. If you brick your phone, TWRP is your only way out BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BACKUP TO UNDO IT.
I wouldn't worry about a custom kernel because with root you will have access to so many options that you can customize your phone to use less battery.
Therefore, you should root, install TWRP, then install Cyanogenmod 12. There are so so so many guides for doing these and a quick google search will get you right into it.
Send me a message if you have specific questions -- I'd be glad to help you out. I was in your shoes not too long ago as well.
Hope this helps!

Temp root to allow custom font

Is it possible to install custom font through temp root? Lots of things are unclear about rooting 6.0 and is what makes things phone a pain to root
jafferkhan said:
Is it possible to install custom font through temp root? Lots of things are unclear about rooting 6.0 and is what makes things phone a pain to root
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nope. wont persist through the reboot necessary to flash fonts. btw since u seem to be attempting it ,did u manage temp root via king or kingo on stock 6.0.1? i never attempted it. i took safe upgrade the root actuaally occurs on 5.1.1 base then upgrade with aboot ripped from firmware (safe upgrade is 5.1.1 base with 6.0.1 toolchain making it possible to upgrade with aboot ripped out of firmware ) the last part of guide wasnt remotely even necessarry where it tells u to place the file in recovery . i didnt understand why you would do that ? i guess if u were planning on staying on stock bit then why unlock in first place .
mojoswagger1980 said:
nope. wont persist through the reboot necessary to flash fonts. btw since u seem to be attempting it ,did u manage temp root via king or kingo on stock 6.0.1? i never attempted it. i took safe upgrade the root actuaally occurs on 5.1.1 base then upgrade with aboot ripped from firmware (safe upgrade is 5.1.1 base with 6.0.1 toolchain making it possible to upgrade with aboot ripped out of firmware ) the last part of guide wasnt remotely even necessarry where it tells u to place the file in recovery . i didnt understand why you would do that ? i guess if u were planning on staying on stock bit then why unlock in first place .
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I managed to root it, the issue is, I ended up losing mobile service

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