HDR+ on vs HDR+ Enhanced? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

When searching for this, the explanations make it more confusing. Can anybody help?
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HDR+ is basically the old HDR auto mode. It may or may not use HDR depending on conditions.
The HDR+ Enhanced mode is now the HDR on mode. It will always use HDR.

brkshr said:
HDR+ is basically the old HDR auto mode. It may or may not use HDR depending on conditions.
The HDR+ Enhanced mode is now the HDR on mode. It will always use HDR.
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Thanks, man
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This isn't correct. The HDR plus on is the always on mode that is default. It constantly takes underexposed photos and combines them to create better color and dynamic range. The HDR enhanced is the classic HDR that's on most phones that takes a underexposed, regular and over exposed photo and combines them for a bigger effect. This takes longer and is effected by movement very easily.

dakalter said:
This isn't correct. The HDR plus on is the always on mode that is default. It constantly takes underexposed photos and combines them to create better color and dynamic range. The HDR enhanced is the classic HDR that's on most phones that takes a underexposed, regular and over exposed photo and combines them for a bigger effect. This takes longer and is effected by movement very easily.
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So which one would you say is better to take photos on? Sorry, I am a noob when it comes to photography

The default is good for most situations and is the one Google works to improve the most. It's very fast at that setting as well.

I'm not even seeing HDR options in my camera. Isn't it normally at the top?
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biggiestuff said:
I'm not even seeing HDR options in my camera. Isn't it normally at the top?
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There's a toggle somewhere in the camera settings that will make it appear at the top
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Okay, just revisiting this thread now that 8.1 is out and visual core is enabled. Am I right to think HDR+Enhanced is the one to leave it on? Should be faster than ever now with the dedicated co-processor. Dunno? That is what I have it set to now. Thoughts?

dakalter said:
This isn't correct. The HDR plus on is the always on mode that is default. It constantly takes underexposed photos and combines them to create better color and dynamic range. The HDR enhanced is the classic HDR that's on most phones that takes a underexposed, regular and over exposed photo and combines them for a bigger effect. This takes longer and is effected by movement very easily.
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This is not my understanding
Sorry everyone, but HDR+ Enhanced is nothing special. Google just renamed the strings to better reflect how HDR+ works in the Google Camera app.
<string name="hdr_auto_desc">HDR+ on</string>
<string name="hdr_on_desc">HDR+ enhanced</string>
<string name="hdr_plus_auto_desc">HDR Plus on</string>
<string name="hdr_plus_on_desc">HDR Plus enhanced</string>
As you can see in the above strings, taken from an APK teardown of the latest Google Camera app, what was previously known as HDR+ Auto is now HDR+ On and what was once known as HDR+ On is now HDR+ Enhanced.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/download-google-camera-motion-photo/

brkshr said:
This is not my understanding
https://www.xda-developers.com/download-google-camera-motion-photo/
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No, dakalter is right. HDR+ constantly takes underexposed photos which get combined, and HDR+ Enhanced takes under, regular, and over-exposed photos which are combined. I can't find the link, but this info comes directly from Google.

v12xke said:
Okay, just revisiting this thread now that 8.1 is out and visual core is enabled. Am I right to think HDR+Enhanced is the one to leave it on? Should be faster than ever now with the dedicated co-processor. Dunno? That is what I have it set to now. Thoughts?
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Using enhanced, I don't notice any speed difference. I'm on the 8.1 DP2.
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v12xke said:
Okay, just revisiting this thread now that 8.1 is out and visual core is enabled. Am I right to think HDR+Enhanced is the one to leave it on? Should be faster than ever now with the dedicated co-processor. Dunno? That is what I have it set to now. Thoughts?
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Visual core is not going to impact photos taken by the stock camera app. MAYBE processing speed, but not capture speed or results. It's only meant to bring the greatness of the camera to other apps.

beezar said:
No, dakalter is right. HDR+ constantly takes underexposed photos which get combined, and HDR+ Enhanced takes under, regular, and over-exposed photos which are combined. I can't find the link, but this info comes directly from Google.
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Ok. I'll look into it more. thanks

i assume one is for full Auto and the other is for forced HDR + google's optimizations for like landscapes? can anyone confirm?

v12xke said:
Okay, just revisiting this thread now that 8.1 is out and visual core is enabled. Am I right to think HDR+Enhanced is the one to leave it on? Should be faster than ever now with the dedicated co-processor. Dunno? That is what I have it set to now. Thoughts?
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The stock camera doesn't use the visual core yet, so you won't notice any improvements.
Google either needs to update the camera app for this to work, or someone needs to release a modded camera app that looks towards the visual core instead of the 835 ISP.

Why the visual core is not enabled by default on 8.1?why do we have to enable it in dev option?

gm007 said:
Why the visual core is not enabled by default on 8.1?why do we have to enable it in dev option?
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The visual core is enabled but Google has said that the default camera app will not benefit from it.
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This is a nice explanation from a Google expert in case anyone is still confused: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/forum/AAAAb4-OgUsm-vlRaL8w_Y/?hl=by
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Something else worth noting is that turning HDR+ Enhanced on disables Motion Photos, while just HDR+ allows Motion Photos.

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[APK] Enable Portrait mode on OG Pixel phone

Update to NX Camera enables portrait mode.
Link to article:
https://chromloop.com/2017/12/apk-enable-portrait-mode-nexus-5x6p-og-pixel-phone-google-camera-mod/
Link to apk:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329070406
Awesome, thanks!
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About damn time lol
Wish it wouldn't give me a parsing error ?
@Charles_l Thanks for the mod. Always used your ZSL mod on my 5X. Thanks.
Happy new year !!
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suku_patel_22 said:
@Charles_l Thanks for the mod. Always used your ZSL mod on my 5X. Thanks.
Could you please also look at bringing motion images to the OG Pixel's?
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Motion? It's in NX camera. ?
I turn this off to save space but it works.
ChongoDroid said:
I turn this off to save space but it works.
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Yes. Junked the gun without actually installing the APK.
Saw that it's there once I installed it. Thanks!!
The default camera app can now be disabled[emoji3]
And happy new year to you!!
ChongoDroid said:
I turn this off to save space but it works.
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Dont care much about storage, thanks to Google photos.
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suku_patel_22 said:
Yes. Junked the gun without actually installing the APK.
Saw that it's there once I installed it. Thanks!!
The default camera app can now be disabled[emoji3]
And happy new year to you!!
Dont care much about storage, thanks to Google photos.
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Yeah unlimited storage for life will keep on this device for a while. Happy new year to you as well.
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Jrmiller said:
Wish it wouldn't give me a parsing error
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Do you know what this means and how to fix it? I get the same thing. I'm still on 7.1.1 if that means anything.
Only works on 8.0+
Taken at least a dozen photos of my idiotic face just to test it, and it works exceptionally well really. Thanks to whoever modified it, great job.
The caveats though, it will only work as long as a HUMAN FACE is detected, for nothing else, and HDR+ or HDR Enhanced etc. modes won't have any effect while using this portrait mode. Also I really wish the images didn't come in the burst mode format, but I am sure a future update will polish up these things, kindly update the topic if an update is made to the app.
ithehappy said:
Taken at least a dozen photos of my idiotic face just to test it, and it works exceptionally well really. Thanks to whoever modified it, great job.
The caveats though, it will only work as long as a HUMAN FACE is detected, for nothing else, and HDR+ or HDR Enhanced etc. modes won't have any effect while using this portrait mode. Also I really wish the images didn't come in the burst mode format, but I am sure a future update will polish up these things, kindly update the topic if an update is made to the app.
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If you check out the post I linked to in the op, he details how this sorcery works. I don't think portrait mode is designed to work with hdr+ as it is kind of counterintuitive. Face retouch works however and works well with portrait mode. I think the burst mode is a side effect of the work around he is using (using the software version that's implemented in the pixel 2's ffc on our cameras rear facing camera). Anyways I'm just happy to see our device is still getting improvements from these newer devices. ?
Has anyone tested normal photos with HDR and HDR+ to see if it performs the same as the normal google camera? If it's the same then it makes sense to disable the google camera and rely totally on this one.
Sab3elbromba said:
Has anyone tested normal photos with HDR and HDR+ to see if it performs the same as the normal google camera? If it's the same then it makes sense to disable the google camera and rely totally on this one.
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Been meaning to but really didn't get time to inspect the photos on my monitor, however I think this one has some video recording feature missing or whatever, someone mentioned EFS not working on 1080p. Pardon me if I've read wrong.
So if we can get portrait mode se should be able to get now playing too right?
ithehappy said:
Been meaning to but really didn't get time to inspect the photos on my monitor, however I think this one has some video recording feature missing or whatever, someone mentioned EFS not working on 1080p. Pardon me if I've read wrong.
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Yes, EIS does not work with 1080p ( which I use the most for the 60fps) and to be honest, HDR+ enhanced seems to be a bit over processed compared to the stock camera in my opinion.
Do you have the newer APK, which I told adds some 4k features?
Edit: looks like it adds 4k to phones that support it but didn't come with it.
bigsnack said:
Do you have the newer APK, which I told adds some 4k features?
Edit: looks like it adds 4k to phones that support it but didn't come with it.
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Google GCAM MOD5. That contains the 4k ZSL... I just feel like I don't have so much blur when taking daily pictures. Built by Arnova...
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329071722
Mikkey81 said:
Google GCAM MOD5. That contains the 4k ZSL... I just feel like I don't have so much blur when taking daily pictures. Built by Arnova...
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329071722
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Thanks for posting this, been using it for a while now. Works brilliantly.

Google camera for Kirin

Finaly fully working Camera, with HDR+, for Huawei and Honor devices.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18Fi-ZXfMO7n1I0kzhYWaIxRpFhYUyLhX
any review? Photo samples? Is it worthy? Can it use second lens?
AntoSVK said:
any review? Photo samples? Is it worthy? Can it use second lens?
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No you just use primary lens RGB.
Well it's a good place to start. If anyone is able to work on this to get the latest Google Camera working, or at least 5.1 that would be amazing.
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Finaly fully working Camera, with HDR+, for Huawei and Honor devices.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18Fi-ZXfMO7n1I0kzhYWaIxRpFhYUyLhX
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Need to root?
To have real HDR+ to work you must have check mark in the dot/circle next to HDR+ icon.
We don't have this check mark when we choose HDR+ ON.
I think that real HDR+ processing ia not present now.
Testing the camera now on my P10 Plus, but there is a lor of noise and seems HDR+ is not working really with image stacking and all...
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ytgbg said:
To have real HDR+ to work you must have check mark in the dot/circle next to HDR+ icon.
We don't have this check mark when we choose HDR+ ON.
I think that real HDR+ processing ia not present now.
Testing the camera now on my P10 Plus, but there is a lor of noise and seems HDR+ is not working really with image stacking and all...
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I'ts have hdr+, its faster becose it use 4 pictures to get 1 pic, not 10 like Pixel phones, becose of algoritam 4 diferent scenes of lighting.
Hmm I don't think this is actually producing any HDR pics. There is no difference in file sizes or any other data between two photos taken with and without HDR+ turned on
MrDanMak said:
Hmm I don't think this is actually producing any HDR pics. There is no difference in file sizes or any other data between two photos taken with and without HDR+ turned on
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Yes, I noticed that too, makes no sense that HDR+ is working when the sizes are the same of pics after HDR+ is completely ON and OFF. Not only that is a sign it is not working, but as I said the check mark inside the circle is a real indication when HRD+ is turned on. Here HDR+ ON icon doesn't change with a check mark- this is the sign that HDR+ is activated.
On top of that there is so much noise in pics and no detail.
I have seen a friends Mi5s Plus with working HDR+ Mod and I tested it extensively and I know the behavior of HDR+ and the kind pictures it produces.
I hope that this mod will get better soon, it looks promising!
Hdr not working
Does it need root?...,if so where can I I?
any update with this apk?
BTW thank you for this apk
HDR+ needs Oreo to work.
Im waiting for update on P9 to test it. For now no difference comparing to native camera app.
root: It works on my Oreo P10 without root.
HDR+: I don't see any difference in the images if I check HDR+ on sv HDR+ off. So it does not seem to work.
Nevertheless, Photo Sphere is working which is good.
The best part of this APK is it does not crash except may be Slow Motion. For all others pic quality is good at least we may a working APK which can be improved over time.
Great start
mortalaxe said:
any update with this apk?
BTW thank you for this apk
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There is not gonna be any update, chipset algoritam not allowing any changes, so this is the farest I get with app.
Why my huawei p10 can't install this app?
Syaherulez said:
Why my huawei p10 can't install this app?
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Maybe beacose of this last update.
Who made apk? Is there a new update for the hdr to work?
Try
I have installed this camera on my honor 10. Standart camera better. I can send photo if you want. Sry 4myeng)))

[Updated][App] OnePlus 6T Google Camera Port [Fajita] [OP6T]

This was from the OnePlus 6 Google Camera Port from Telegram
2022: January,8 <NEW>
8.1_GCam_BSG : 8.1_GCam_BSG_A9_GV1x.apk
-Latest Gcam port for 6t.
-Known Issues: the slow-mo mode and 4K60FPS video recording don't work.
Recommended:
Download any of the XML's made for this GCam mod (Download link down below) and place them on your internal storage at any location you prefer.
After doing so load any of them up by double-tapping in the viewfinder beside the shutter button and navigate to the location where you saved the XML's.
Link for xml files
2019: Apirl,20
GCam Adv 2.0 :Gcam_6.2.024_Advanced_V2.0.190420.0415.apk
-New APK
-Test and comment
2019: March,22
GCam Adv 1.4 :GCam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.4.032219.1950.apk
-Fixed SlowMotion
-Front camera issues fixed
-Fixed crashes when switching portrait to camera or Night sight
-Added lens blur resolution
-Works well on the international variant, T-mobile users test and comment.
2019: March,1
MGC Ver 3.9 :MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova-TlnNeun_Urnyx05-v3.9a.apk
-Front camera issues
-Check here for change logs.
-Test and post your comments works perfectly for me.
2018: Dec,20
MGC Ver 1.2 :MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova_TlnNeun_1.2_Final.apk
-Test ( Test it and post in the comments )
2018: Nov, 27
Ver 1.3 :GCam_Pixel3Mod_1.3_build.6.1.021
-Test ( Test it and post in the comments )
- Faster than previous version
2018: Nov, 20
Ver 1.3 :GCam_Pixel3Mod_1.3beta_build.6.1.0210
-Buggy (Not stable)
<Stable>
Ver 1.2 : GCam_Pixel3Mod_1.2beta_build.6.1.013
- Improved stability
- Fix Photobooth (Works perfectly)
- Everything works except slow motion
2018: Nov, 8
Ver 1.1 :GCam_Pixel3Mod_1.1beta_build.6.1.013
-Night mode
-Fix for T-mob user's
-Beta version (not 100% stable)
2018: Nov, 6
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13JcZK3_qN3bmVMtVeir9PhENa0hZyaxL/view?usp=sharing
Alternate
https://www6.zippyshare.com/v/l54AsfUI/file.html
-Night mode
-Only autofocus works in night mode
-T-mob user's wait for patch (This crashes)
-Try and post your comments
-Normal mode works only if HDR+ or HDR+ enhanced is enabled
2018: Nov, 4
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FerWLvyOsSobkMNRLJitoxBL46_OPKTS/view?usp=sharing
Alternate
https://www6.zippyshare.com/v/nFHC76Gw/file.html
-Based on Google Camera 6.1 from Pixel 3
-Beta version
-Night mode is not working
To get AR Stickers :
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ar/
(Follow 1st step ARCore supported in 6T)
Updated version's will be posted here
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
If you want to show your appreciation to the developer, please consider donating to:
@Arnova8G2
Did anybody try this? Are the photos as good as Pixel 3 especially portraits?
Thanks OP. It works great. No crash yet. The rear and front cam portrait work good and way faster compare to gcam mods on my old S8+.
The night option shows a bank screen.
I tried as well. The regular HDR+ shots handle light sources much better than the current 6T stock hdr. Taking a picture of a dark room with a television with text (high contrast) but putting the focus point below on a dark object, 6T stock cam blows out the picture onscreen, where as pixel cam port keeps the text legible. I have the same issue as well, with Nightsight on the port just rendering a black screen in the viewfinder and locking the app. Great first start though, massive potential here, maybe oneplus dev's could decompile and take a few pointers
ram4ufriends said:
Did anybody try this? Are the photos as good as Pixel 3 especially portraits?
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Works fine , Potraits are good and zoom works on potrait mode :good:
bharath it said:
Works fine , Potraits are good and zoom works on potrait mode :good:
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Is it as good as Pixel 3?
Also try this port GCam_6.1.013_stable_OP6.apk https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/#apk518 this is nice but does not have night option, can someone also try to import the stickers? And use AR CORE application? I want to buy this phone but I will wait until camera performance will be equal to pixel (I can't root my device because of bank application and other app that does not work with root or unlocked bootloader)
Can also someone provide information about API camera level support ? is Level 3 or just Full ?
ram4ufriends said:
Is it as good as Pixel 3?
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As good as that.. Just try out buddy it's just an APK
How long does it take to snap a shot in HDR+ Enhanced on the OP6t? I had the gcam port on my OP5, and that phone always took a good 3 seconds to actually take the picture once I tapped on the shutter button.
Slash8915 said:
How long does it take to snap a shot in HDR+ Enhanced on the OP6t? I had the gcam port on my OP5, and that phone always took a good 3 seconds to actually take the picture once I tapped on the shutter button.
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Less than a second.
This app shows that the camera hardware OnePlus is using is way better than the stock camera app software is letting it be.
The camera on the OnePlus could be great with better stock software.
bp328i said:
Less than a second.
This app shows that the camera hardware OnePlus is using is way better than the stock camera app software is letting it be.
The camera on the OnePlus could be great with better stock software.
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Oh wow. Less than a second using HDR+ Enhanced? This port has come a long way since the OP5, then.
Slash8915 said:
Oh wow. Less than a second using HDR+ Enhanced? This port has come a long way since the OP5, then.
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Here is a 15 second screen recording I did.
https://youtu.be/ggGJOwYqbUI
bp328i said:
Less than a second.
This app shows that the camera hardware OnePlus is using is way better than the stock camera app software is letting it be.
The camera on the OnePlus could be great with better stock software.
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Here is a 15 second screen recording I did.
https://youtu.be/ggGJOwYqbUI
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That's awesome, thank you! Do you still have to manually change all of the settings in the Gcam port, or is it good to go as soon as you install it with the exception of enabling manual HDR?
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That's awesome, thank you! Do you still have to manually change all of the settings in the Gcam port, or is it good to go as soon as you install it with the exception of enabling manual HDR?
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I just installed it and started taking pictures. No settings to change.
Ivan93tm said:
Also try this port GCam_6.1.013_stable_OP6.apk https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/#apk518 this is nice but does not have night option, can someone also try to import the stickers? And use AR CORE application? I want to buy this phone but I will wait until camera performance will be equal to pixel (I can't root my device because of bank application and other app that does not work with root or unlocked bootloader)
Can also someone provide information about API camera level support ? is Level 3 or just Full ?
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Well ar stickers works just fine
However I am not able to use Marvel stickers and playground 2.0
Pretty cool to use once installed. The selfie camera in regular and portrait mode is 10x better. Still use nightmode on my stock 6T camera of course and the regular camera on the back is much better through this pixel app.
Few things though: The camera will take a photo and sometimes crash when you go to look at the image and the photo doesn't save. No biggie because this is happening to Pixel 3 users lol. The other things is, I don't know if any of you have taken time to notice, but the portrait mode on the back camera doesn't work from what I can tell and a few of my friends with extensive photography knowledge said they felt the same way when examining this. We took multiple photos with the regular back camera and the portrait mode back camera and the focus was the exact same, but because it's focus on the object is so strong it might appear like it's blurring out the background. Also, not sure if this proves my point, but these cameras will save both the regular photo and the portrait mode photo to give you the options which only happens when I take a selfie in portrait mode, but not on the back camera in portrait mode. Anyone else experiencing this issue? Thanks for the hard work guys, this is still great!
Fir3lordZuk0 said:
Well ar stickers works just fine
However I am not able to use Marvel stickers and playground 2.0
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I wonder if I could pull what is needed to make Marvel stickers and playground work off my Pixel 3 XL?
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DJVendetta86 said:
Pretty cool to use once installed. The selfie camera in regular and portrait mode is 10x better. Still use nightmode on my stock 6T camera of course and the regular camera on the back is much better through this pixel app.
Few things though: The camera will take a photo and someone crash when you go to look at the image and the photo doesn't save. No biggie because this is happening to Pixel 3 users lol. The other things is, I don't know if any of you have taken time to notice, but the portrait mode on the back camera doesn't work from what I can tell and a few of my friends with extensive photography knowledge said they felt the same way when examining this. We took multiple photos with the regular back camera and the portrait mode back camera and the focus was the exact same, but because it's focus on the object is so strong it might appear like it's blurring out the background. Also, not sure if this proves my point, but these cameras will save both the regular photo and the portrait mode photo to give you the options which only happens when I take a selfie in portrait mode, but not on the back camera in portrait mode. Anyone else experiencing this issue? Thanks for the hard work guys, this is still great!
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I just tried the back portrait mode and it definitely saved the original and the portrait mode.
Edit: it works on people, but it doesn't seem to be working on objects. My Pixel 3 LX does portrait mode on both people and objects. For some reason the port on the OnePlus 6t is only working on people for portrait mode.
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I wonder if I could pull what is needed to make Marvel stickers and playground work off my Pixel 3 XL?
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I just tried the back portrait mode and it definitely saved the original and the portrait mode.
Edit: it works on people, but it doesn't seem to be working on objects. My Pixel 3 LX does portrait mode on both people and objects. For some reason the port on the OnePlus 6t is only working on people for portrait mode.
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Good find! thanks for the quick response, I'll have to try it on someone later when I get the chance lol.
bp328i said:
I wonder if I could pull what is needed to make Marvel stickers and playground work off my Pixel 3 XL?
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Do you see a big difference between the pixel 3 and the 6t gcam in hdr+ mode?
Thanks in advance!
RocketGeeezer said:
Do you see a big difference between the pixel 3 and the 6t gcam in hdr+ mode?
Thanks in advance!
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Here are three different photos, first one taken on my Pixel 3 XL, second one taken on my OnePlus 6T with the Pixel camera port, third one taken on my OnePlus 6T with the stock camera app.
To large to add all three to one post so here are the Pixel 3 XL and OnePlus 6T using the Pixel camera app. I'll add the photo taken with the stock Oneplus camera app in the next post.

Camera blurring/anti-aliasing issue?

Something doesn't quite seem right with the camera quality. I've toggled between both lenses and suspect it could be the included camera app. I've briefly tested with Camera ZOOM FX Premium and yield grainier results. I just installed cstark27's Google Camera and will give that a go, but I wanted to see if my results are typical or if my particular device is flawed. Perhaps needless to say: the included photo has no filter. HDR was enabled, however. This is with stock app.
Hiyoto said:
Perhaps needless to say: the included photo has no filter. HDR was enabled, however. This is with stock app.
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You should disable HDR in the first place for indoor footage. In camera ZOOM FX Premium HDR is disabled, what makes you to enable HDR in stock one?
It worked really well with the HTC 10.
Hiyoto said:
It worked really well with the HTC 10.
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So? Then take app of HTC camera and install it on G7, it'd probably work well too
I can try it, but considering core apps moved to another device tend to need to be modified to function properly (example being GCam), this strikes me as poor advice.
I'm more concerned over why the included app seems to be applying some kind of beautifying filter that makes it lose finer details.
Evidence of attempt.
Core is very limited in how it can be configured.
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Core is very limited in how it can be configured.
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You have HDR set to Auto. This causes applying some kind of beautifying filter that makes it lose finer details. Turn it off

Are default shutter speeds of the pixel 3 vs pixel 2 slower?

Hi,
I can't find it anymore but someone said that there is more motion blur on the pixel 3 than the pixel 2 b/c the default shutter speeds are much slower now.
Is this true? One thing I really liked about the pixel 2 is that it was the only smartphone that was very resistant to motion blur by default, even at the expense of higher iso.
Seeing so much motion blur on the pixel 3. After using the pixel 2 for a year , I am positive that what you say is true in the few days I have been taking pictures on the pixel 3. I am hoping this is not inherent to the hardware because this one aspect has made me think of switching back to the pixel 2
harijay said:
Seeing so much motion blur on the pixel 3. After using the pixel 2 for a year , I am positive that what you say is true in the few days I have been taking pictures on the pixel 3. I am hoping this is not inherent to the hardware because this one aspect has made me think of switching back to the pixel 2
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Or you could just use OpenCamera app and have a fully manually controllable camera (well, apart from the iris which is fixed). Iso 400 (for some reason the actual value is 395) gives in my not so brightly lit office shutter speeds of around 1/500s for a correctly exposed picture and produces a negligible amount of noise. Iso 800 still is very, very good. And even Iso 1600 is still absolutely usable, but may require a little post processing for larger prints.
Anyone with both phones can easily test this. Shoot the same scene and look at the metadata to see the shutter speeds. Could well be the 3 camera app was modified to reduce noise with a slower shutter speed but increased motion blur. There are always compromises.
This is absolutely true. The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 had extremely fast shutter speeds. I snap multiple photos in a go on Pixel 1 and 2 as it was so quick, and never any blur.
Top shot and various other "features" on the pixel 3 really let it down.
is there anyway to set a default minimum shutter speed, basically a shutter priority mode?
alpinista82 said:
Or you could just use OpenCamera app and have a fully manually controllable camera (well, apart from the iris which is fixed). Iso 400 (for some reason the actual value is 395) gives in my not so brightly lit office shutter speeds of around 1/500s for a correctly exposed picture and produces a negligible amount of noise. Iso 800 still is very, very good. And even Iso 1600 is still absolutely usable, but may require a little post processing for larger prints.
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If you buy a phone for 1000$+ you expect everything goes right by default
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Anyone with both phones can easily test this. Shoot the same scene and look at the metadata to see the shutter speeds. Could well be the 3 camera app was modified to reduce noise with a slower shutter speed but increased motion blur. There are always compromises.
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You can test with a moded gcam app if the problem is really software
Download in celsoazevedo web page cstark moded gcam app (p3v8) and make a comparision with that camera and stock
I am using it on my pixel 2xl , shutter speed is the same as stock
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If you buy a phone for 1000$+ you expect everything goes right by default
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You can test with a moded gcam app if the problem is really software
Download in celsoazevedo web page cstark moded gcam app (p3v8) and make a comparision with that camera and stock
I am using it on my pixel 2xl , shutter speed is the same as stock
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There is no "right" in default photo settings, it's a matter of trying to choose settings that give the best results for the most users. That's why manual controls exist. A faster shutter speed to minimize blur isn't right or wrong, it's a trade-off. I would have preferred manual control options to be included but they chose simple over more complicated, and there are plenty of apps available to fill that gap.
How does using a 3rd party app prove whether the Pixel 2 had a faster default shutter speed than the 3?
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There is no "right" in default photo settings, it's a matter of trying to choose settings that give the best results for the most users. That's why manual controls exist. A faster shutter speed to minimize blur isn't right or wrong, it's a trade-off. I would have preferred manual control options to be included but they chose simple over more complicated, and there are plenty of apps available to fill that gap.
How does using a 3rd party app prove whether the Pixel 2 had a faster default shutter speed than the 3?
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Just trying , as moded gcam app has same shutter speed than stock pixel 2 , if you try it on pixel 3 , then you know if the problem ks the strock camera app software or it is something about hardware
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Just trying , as moded gcam app has same shutter speed than stock pixel 2 , if you try it on pixel 3 , then you know if the problem ks the strock camera app software or it is something about hardware
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Ok, sorry, I get it, that could work.

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