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I will update this thread as I found issues.
1. Middle of downloads the phone turned off and refused to switch on. Taking the battery out enabled restarting the phone again.
2. Despite of master reset/factory reset the phone is really laggy. Freezing applications made Defy very responsive but under 2.2.2 it appears no difference at all. (Second factory reset seems brought back somme life to my phone now...)
3. Definitely something is causing an annoying delay at startup even though the phone appears to be ready to use.
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
5. Once a number is dialed the phone locks itself. This is rather inconvenience when you need immediately use the key pad to select options. (20 June 2011)
Guidelines - 20 June 2011
I decided to write a guideline for Defy users. The information provided here have already been mentioned by others but normally not in one place. Please follow the steps below every time you flash a new ROM.
1. Master Reset (Whether you like this step or not this is required to do. Imagine upgrading a windows machine, it would be simply a mess in most cases. Any pro users would tell you always to do a clearn install. The same principle with Android applies)
2. Discharge the battery (It seems flashing a ROM messes up the battery calibration. Drain the battery to the point it won't boot then recharge it from the wall socket)
3. Avoid Restoring Apps (Only if is a must. Since Android 2.2 is different to 2.1 many apps might not work very well with the same settings restored from 2.1. Some vendors also offer different version for Android 2.2 or higher. Installing from market is best practice)
4. Avoid using widgets (They are simply battery eaters. Avoid them if they don't provide useful functionality to you)
5. Don't trust all vendors (Many apps placed on Android Market is written by programmers with no experience at all. A badly written app not only drains more battery but also takes up more precious RAM than it should. The less RAM you have, the slower the phone performs)
6. Don't keep large number of emails in your inboxes (They simply take up more memory)
7. Charge your mobile from wall socket when you can. It really does make a difference and also a recommended method by Motorola.
8. Put the Mobile Network to 2G when you can. It does save considerable amount of battery.
9. Switch off the phone once per day for 30 seconds before switching it on again.
Any chance to get hands on SBF for this release
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
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I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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That will get you the motorola update software.
During the update the .sbf is downloaded. We need to get the sbf, however it is deleted once the update has finished. I think this happens when the motorola software asks to "reboot phone, connect usb and verify update".
Please, if anyone does the update make sure to find the .sbf file and copy it somewhere safe before the update is verified. Then post to xda of course
Olly
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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I'm not sure either, I reverted to 2.51 and did the update form that point.
Anyone installed CM over 3.4.2_177-3?
Olly
kashavsehra said:
I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Thanks for that. I can actually reconfirm the issue. Last night when I was setting my alarm, with no lights in the room, I noticed once again the capacitive buttons' led were off. I was helding the phone in portrait and I know for sure this problem wasn't there in 2.1 because I always set my alarm after I turn the lights off (Bedroom's). When I press the Home Key to come out of the Alarm app the capacitive buttons lit up again.
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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If the msu is compiled by Motorola then I'm sure you won't be able to upgrade. The .msu can contain many other smaller installers that can do all the checking, exactly the way the update program does. Your only solutuion is to revert back to Motorola's stock ROM and give it a try.
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
I found the gallery the worst bit. So poor, I can't believe they let it go out like that. Runs like a dog.
I feel embarrassed for Motorola. Or I would if they were not working hard every day making their great hardware under-perform!
Seriously what a phone once CM is on it!
Olly
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
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As far as I'm concerned Motorola has degraded the phone and I'm not too sure if that is legal or not. I'm referring to the apps Motorola developed such as the video player and the gallery that you pointed out, not the Android itself. The additional Task Manager that was shipped with 2.1 in US is a welcome.
I have found my defy is performing slower, unless those claim Defy performs better with Android 2.2 has some settings that I don't. I ended up installing SetVSel to speed thigns up. It seems to me I'm getting 1/4 less juice out of my battery. I can reconfirm it once I play music on it for a couple of hours.
Not wanting to sound negative all the time, here are some positive things I found so far. I'm very happy with this update because now I got all my emails working on my handset which was important to me which missed the feature for the past 6 months. The browser appears to work very smoothly in most cases. I haven't used the Tasks app yet but that is another welcome addition as I always have a need for such features on portable devices. Other positive things about Android is to thank google not Motorola anyway. The slightly improved dialer worth just mentioning about it.
If Motorola refuses to give us Gingerbread then I hope they provide an update to fix some minor issues that either annoying or impacting the user experience soon enough.
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
MrBelter said:
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
lotfib said:
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
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Thank you for your post. In my experience there was a noticeable performance difference between 2.1 and 2.2.2 before a single application was installed. One theory to why some people are happy with the performance and others are not could be down to different components used in Defy. No one knows for sure if all Defy around the globe use exactly the same components or not. As you pointed out installing apps appears to effect the performance so we can conclude those that are not experiencing performance decrease are not power users.
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
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I am confused, all my photos and videos are in folders anyway and all the previews load like lightning so i fail to to see the problem, it is better than any default gallery whichever way you look at it.
Anyway only issue i can find with the retail 2.2 is how low highest screen brightness setting seems to be, the display is really hard to read outside now.
If you have a hundred pictures scattered over ten folders, would you want to tap into those folders one by one to browse all your photos?
Just like there's a unified inbox for mails from many accounts so you don't have to jump from one mailbox to the next, the stock gallery has a unified pictures view (all pictures in one grid) for all your folders.
If you want to swipe through lots of pictures from a bunch of different folders, having them all in one grid beats having to open all the different folders one by one.
If QuickPic would have the same unified picture view and custom picture grid sizes I would throw the stock gallery out. While QuickPic is working on it (are they?) I'll keep both apps.
The problem with the capacitive buttons that not lighting up is worse than I thought. It happens all the time, it doesn't light up and the only way to make it to work, when it gets really bad, by locking the phone (power switch) and unlocking it again.
The battery life noticeably shortened after the update. What I have done today was to completely discharge the battery to the point it doesn't turn on. Recharged it fully again without turning it on and from the wall socket. I'll report back if there was any improvements on Monday.
I also uninstalled VSel and set it to default CPU speed again. Despite of freezing so many apps and services the start up is really slow and I really feel the lag with the phone.
Another Defy/Froyo bug:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* to get into a service menu. From there battery_history/network_usage would tell you network traffic per app since last boot/unplugged/all time.
In Eclair all data was counted. In Froyo it usually doesn't count anything.
Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE
Ghost volume button issue on most devices - Valid Concern
No micro sd card support - Shouldn't be a surprise
Confusing user interface - Seriously?
No Facebook contacts sync - Facebook's fault, not Google's
No native social network widget - Again, look at the social networks for blame
Can't add more home screens - Never been more than 5 in stock android
Fuzzy speaker - valid concern
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off - Don't have one, so can't comment
No digital clock only analog widget - Never been one in stock android
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score - Don't have one, so can't comment
Lag in many areas - Don't have one, so can't comment
No Facebook events calendar sync - Never been in stock android OR from facebook's app
Only 5m camera - Shouldn't be a surprise
Most of this is your own fault for not knowing in advance, or isn't a valid point.
"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.
+1 to the other comments.... it is in the best interest to your homework before you purchase, not the day after
The ghost volume and fuzzy speaker are the only real concerns......... and Really. . . . . How many here are going to keep this stock ??? hmmmm???
My guess the sound and volume will be eliminated when either Voodoo is adapted to this phone or some other equal
And, as far as all those other issues custom roms solve all of them
As for me, I always try to get something that has great hardware the software doesn't matter, we here in XDA will customize, make, kang or just create what we need.
Seems to me that this threads are becoming typical every time a new device hits the market more so in this case with all the hype of the Nexus. Buyers remorse, lack of due diligence? Or something else…
Other than the low volume problem, this post only proves how ignorant you are.
Previous post sums it up.
UI is fine - blame the user not the tech!
I don't have the volume issue but that would be the only concern I would point the finger at.
Making a deal about vibrate on a lock screen - what next??
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knut150 said:
Seems to me that this threads are becoming typical every time a new device hits the market more so in this case with all the hype of the Nexus. Buyers remorse, lack of due diligence? Or something else…
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Saying that there has been a "lack of due diligence" implies that people have just gone out and bought the phone with no knowledge of it whatsoever. This isn't true. I read every single hands on, preview, and article I could find on the Nexus before I bought it, and not a single one mentioned any of the problems or small annoyances we have been having. So, tell me - how has showing "due diligence" made any difference to me?
Buyers remorse? Sure, that could factor into it - but only because of the problems.
These threads are becoming more typical because the devices are getting more expensive, and we are becoming to rely on them more for our day to day life. If problems are happening, they become more of an issue to us
viniturb0 said:
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
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This can be turned off in Settings -> Security -> Vibrate on Touch
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This can be turned off in Settings -> Security -> Vibrate on Touch
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Not sure that setting is in Security - think its in display - and deselecting it in display has no effect on lockscreen
Then again - maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.
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Other than the low volume problem, this post only proves how ignorant you are.
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This post only proves that for some people being polite is only an optional feature.
And also that is a lot easier to insult someone behind a monitor rather than face to face in real life.
Oh and Quadrant is one of the worst benchmarks available. Try some others like linpack / antutu / cf-bench. Eventho those are probably not optimized for ICS, they at least use multithreading etc.
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I actually agree on the interface/UI. Menu key appears on some apps at the bottom some at the top some dont have it at all. Also there's no menu key on the main android screen which Paul O'Brien has modded to show that its there in the code to be used. Not sure what Google were thinking there? Same old Google for me, rushing out updates. ICS needs some polishing in my opinion. Battery life sucks still on the OS too which I would have thought they would have addressed this time around. That volume bug is a pain too, BIG ONE!
This is my opinion mind, hope Google sort these things out.
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I actually agree on the interface/UI. Menu key appears on some apps at the bottom some at the top some dont have it at all. Also there's no menu key on the main android screen which Paul O'Brien has modded to show that its there in the code to be used. Not sure what Google were thinking there? Same old Google for me, rushing out updates. ICS needs some polishing in my opinion. Battery life sucks still on the OS too which I would have thought they would have addressed this time around. That volume bug is a pain too, BIG ONE!
This is my opinion mind, hope Google sort these things out.
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If you're talking about what i think you're talking about then that is actually intended to be like that.
Apps that use the keyboard (Such as messaging, gmail, maps, etc.) all have an action bar where, amongst other things, the menu is that the bottom. When you start using the keyboard, the action bar is removed, and the menu button is then moved to the upper right side of the corner.
Of course, any other app developer can put this wherever they like, and for the apps not currently compatible with this type of menu they have the "compatibility" menu in the software buttons.
As for, what i assume you mean the launcher, it's possible that there is still code for it in ICS to be compatible with older phones that may be upgrading to ICS but will have the 4 capacitive buttons instead, including the menu button.
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Oh and Quadrant is one of the worst benchmarks available. Try some others like linpack / antutu / cf-bench. Eventho those are probably not optimized for ICS, they at least use multithreading etc.
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You mean my 4500 score in Quadrant using my tweaked kernel is meaningless???!?!? I don't think I can live any more...
viniturb0 said:
Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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if that is your case, i don't see a point you complaining, might as well go get another make handset.
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Can't add more home screens - Never been more than 5 in stock android
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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This post only proves that for some people being polite is only an optional feature.
And also that is a lot easier to insult someone behind a monitor rather than face to face in real life.
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Am stating a fact, ignorance is not an insult. dumbass is.
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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if that's the case, it isn't stock.
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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No, the Milestone is not fully stock Android but it's close. The launcher is slightly different as you've seen.
Obvious troll is obvious. Let the thread die, the OP doesn't care about your replies anyways - hence the lack of any sort of reply.
There is no denying that ICS is a major step forward for android phones (and it is awesome!) but what feature etc. do you feel should be included in the next major update?
One thing I would like is a quick access button to toggle the auto-rotate screen on and off! I use my phone a lot in bed and it`s imposable to use the phone with auto-rotate on (as with many smartphones I have tried).
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Another is the ability to stop, pause, fast forward music from the lock screen.
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ICS already has this
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ICS already has this
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You are right, after a restart is now there on the top... interesting!
download a widget app like Widgetsoid. You can make yourself an auto-rotate on/off widget
USB host OTG (promised but not delivered).
Syncing of the default browser with Chromium or Chrome.
I'd like to see some Siri competition.
Onboard external storage with ssd speeds. Even tighter and consistent integration with hardware and software. Methinks there is still going to be a clusterfuck of hardware and software still to come. Oem overlays should be optional and/or pick and choose what you like from their launcher. Still boggles my mind people buy a samsung or motorola phone and want sense on their rom. No sense if you ask me.
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Clancy_s said:
USB host OTG (promised but not delivered).
Syncing of the default browser with Chromium or Chrome.
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Syncing already works for bookmarks with chrome.
PS: Didn't mean to thank you - wrong button, but oh well!
I want the stock Gallery App to be as smooth and as quick just like the rest of the OS. How come when you flick through photos and do pinch to zoom it's still sluggish just like on Android 2.2? Can't it be fast like the Browser?
Cannot think of much anything major yet, but here some minor ones:
The Google search bar is really unnecessary.
A disable option for the shutter sound would be nice but I guess they don't have it for legal reasons.
Maybe a pre-loaded plain black wall paper.
I would like to see integration with google talk throughout the device. I woild love for it to be like bbm/imessanger. I use it a lot and feel like it has great potential.
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I would like to see integration with google talk throughout the device. I woild love for it to be like bbm/imessanger. I use it a lot and feel like it has great potential.
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Will never happen.
BBM and iMessage work because the only devices that can communicate via those methods are the mobile phones themselves.
Google Talk works with computers too. Meaning that there is a large margin for disjointed conversations where part of the conversation is completely lost and unable to be referenced without getting the other person to repeat themselves.
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A disable option for the shutter sound would be nice but I guess they don't have it for legal reasons.
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It better be silent on vibrate! Would be great if on vibrate the flash didn't go off either lol
Id like to see the ability to copy and paste pics, rather than having to save them and then send them
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It better be silent on vibrate! Would be great if on vibrate the flash didn't go off either lol
Id like to see the ability to copy and paste pics, rather than having to save them and then send them
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I'd be surprised if they took that out - where when the phone is in silent/vibrate there is no shutter sound. That's how it's always been on my OG Droid, especially back when it was stock.
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Will never happen.
BBM and iMessage work because the only devices that can communicate via those methods are the mobile phones themselves.
Google Talk works with computers too. Meaning that there is a large margin for disjointed conversations where part of the conversation is completely lost and unable to be referenced without getting the other person to repeat themselves.
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Or simply have it do exactly what it does now, and sync conversations across devices? All that needs to be done is have Android device detection, like iMessaging, so that sms conversations automatically switch to Talk (or a rebranded version of Talk).
Regarding shutter sound: Can't we just rename/delete the soundfile, so it cannot be played? What's the filename and where do I find it?
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Will never happen.
BBM and iMessage work because the only devices that can communicate via those methods are the mobile phones themselves.
Google Talk works with computers too. Meaning that there is a large margin for disjointed conversations where part of the conversation is completely lost and unable to be referenced without getting the other person to repeat themselves.
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I don't quite understand. Why is it that when you bring computers into this equation, part of the conversation is liable to being lost?
GN_ICS said:
One thing I would like is a quick access button to toggle the auto-rotate screen on and off! I use my phone a lot in bed and it`s imposable to use the phone with auto-rotate on (as with many smartphones I have tried).
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There is an app called Smart Rotator which I use to only allow certain apps (ie Gallery) to autorotate. Very handy.
i wonder how ICS's keyboard is like.. Particularly, the horizontal keyboard. For some reason, in many of the text fields when using (practically) any type of keyboard, default, swiftkey, (and i don't remember the names of the other ones that i've tried in the past), the horizontal keyboard does not show the background at all. It makes a big text field of the field that you are typing and the touch keyboard takes up the rest with the "next" or "done" at the top right.
It's extremely un-user friendly. I want the apple style keyboard where regardless which orientation you are in, you can still see half of the keyboard, AND add a row to show all of the corrections/suggestions.
Hope that's in ICS, if not, please make it happen in the next update!
One common line nearly every reviewer had to say was about the possibility of the headphone jack pin getting lost. And im like so what, at least it comes with a pin and better than not having anything.
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One common line nearly every reviewer had to say was about the possibility of the headphone jack pin getting lost. And im like so what, at least it comes with a pin and better than not having anything.
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I think it is very good idea..
Now I've got my BlueTooth headphones, I can leave this in.
I can't see why people complained. You don't see iPhone users walking around with their SIM removal tool in their hand do you? No. They leave it at home in the box. When using wired headphones I did just that.
I bought my P6 when they were first released, paying full price (SIM Free), while I'm 'miffed' that the price has dropped, I still think it was an excellent 'phone and at the new lower price it is a steal. Had Huawei managed to keep the price high but spend some money advertising the 'phone they could have sold extremely well. Personally I think the EmotionUI interface is a good one. Less menus and buttons to press, a combination of the best of IOS and Android. If they could add some functionality to the lock screen it could be even better.
Do you guys think we coudl also put a pin push botton in it for making easier photo's with the camera ?
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I also remember complaining about the theme from what i saw online. But after buying the device and just changing into the other themes that comes with it and nice wallpaper of my selection, it was enough to see that the theme was great Its just that Huawei used a dull, boring, cheap looking theme as default. With a good theme, the awesomeness of the screen also become more apparent.
Whats more, i just added a dozen or more new themes from the emotion UI website, and it looks even more awesome. A totally new feel on every theme and seems like id take years before i even finish using them all enough.
No need for any third party launchers for me at least, just like they advertised it in their teasers :good:
Good job Huawei :good:
For those who want an app drawer, they can just add a folder onto the bottom fixed row where the app drawer traditional stays. The bottom row has room for 5 although by default there is only 4 apps. So a 5th folder can be squeezed in between and becomes your app drawer.
Me personally though haven't found any need for an app drawer yet. And with the creative idea of folders, I actually like that i have a choice.
I don't like the no-app-drawer launcher, it feels like a shanzhai (Chinese word, means cheap copy) of iOS, and I hate putting everything on desk
I use apex and ss launcher, it's a pity then I can't use the themes, some themes are really beautiful
anyway, as a Chinese, I'm glad you like this Chinese phone
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I don't like the no-app-drawer launcher, it feels like a shanzhai (Chinese word, means cheap copy) of iOS, and I hate putting everything on desk
I use apex and ss launcher, it's a pity then I can't use the themes, some themes are really beautiful
anyway, as a Chinese, I'm glad you like this Chinese phone
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I felt it as iOS copy initially and went about complaining. But after buying the device and making my own customization of theme or using alternate themes dont feel that way at all anymore.
My personal take on app drawer is that its just a matter of transition effect. The real usage I agree though is to differentiate frequent used apps from the others. But with the option of folders then that can be solved more efficiently. Either make an app drawer folder and dump all into it or make a couple of folders on homescreen for your frequent used apps and arrange them according to app type. So basically eliminates the need for app drawer, allows users more choice, reduces the doubling of app shortcuts.
I have used the samsung touchwiz as well as Sony UI including its new one on my bros Xperia Ultra. I havent liked them and found them too empty and limited in customization that got me bored of it quite quick. On my samsung device i visit the app drawer like once in a month and have all frequent used apps like a mess on my homescreen thumbnails. The EMUI feels more organized and neater to me. And on the sony, i see that they have a new side tab that opens up on the app drawer section through which apps can be arranged according to frequent use and alphabetical order and some other minor options. To me that is just another waste of space and needless tool because the app drawer by nature would distinguish frequent used apps from that apps kept on homescreen. So no need another round of it.
But maybe many users planned to use launchers anyway and hence they want the p6 to be stock as much as possible ? Or maybe users used an iphone and feel this is all too common and find the app drawer more new and different ? Either way i personally don't want EMUI taking step backwards and feeling like all other phones and would prefer them finding new creative better ways to get around needs. For example, the ability to create folders within folders, for someone who need more specific ordering of apps or if they want to make the folder feel like an app drawer. The ability to arrange apps on homescreen according to recent used, most used, alphabetical order, etc. Or some scrollable bottom tray so that more apps can be fit into it. And things like that. But all of this has to be considered with regards to ease and not eating too much RAM. So if you have some new smart ways of making what you need possible and better then you can send that as feedback (see topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440424) for their upcoming EMUI 2.0.
Good to have you on the forum. How well is the P6 doing in China ?
Okay i found something negative about the phone that music listeners might want to watch out. Since the headphone jack is on the sides, those headphones which got a straight jack (like the S4 headphones i use) just totally sticks out and looks weird. lol. While the Huawei headphones got a L jack that totally fits fine in terms of jack placement, but the headphones itself don't fit my ears. Stays loose and sounds weak. So you would have to buy a new headphone with L shaped jack. :good: But i might just go for a Bluetooth headset :good:
Device is sleek and good looking but WiFi and Phone signal loss (I think it's the device driver crashing) it's more than annoying... :|
matticala said:
Device is sleek and good looking but WiFi and Phone signal loss (I think it's the device driver crashing) it's more than annoying... :|
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untick avoid poor wifi signal..
GalaxySIIII said:
untick avoid poor wifi signal..
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It is already unticked... Anyway cellar line crashes also (red cross)
I'm on B111 and many reported this
Inviato dal mio HUAWEI P6-U06 con Tapatalk 4
matticala said:
It is already unticked... Anyway cellar line crashes also (red cross)
I'm on B111 and many reported this
Inviato dal mio HUAWEI P6-U06 con Tapatalk 4
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am on same testing .. B116SP01 seems to be better
Hello All! I currently own an LG V20 and am getting the Pixel XL in February (allegedly). One feature I will need a proper replacement for is the Capture+ app. If you have never used it, it essentially allows you to easily capture partial screenshots with ease. It pulls up four "handles" in the corners of a rectangle, and defaults to a full screenshot size. However, you can move the handles smoothly and quickly to form a smaller rectangle and any spot you'd like on the screen. It was much like the Note 5/7 in that you can get screenshots of only pertinent parts of the screen.
I believe in LG, it's a system app that cannot be downloaded. I'm fine with it being a normal app I need to pull out from the app drawer to accomplish this, but I cannot find any apps that do something similar. Does anyone know of any apps that do this? Any other suggestions for quickly getting partial screenshots? Maybe the Pixel XL has something built into it that I'm not aware of...?
Can't speak for LG, but I'm missing this feature too coming from a Note 4. Since getting this phone I am forced to take full screenshots only, even though most times I needed a small portion only. Would really like to know if there's an app or something for this.
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Can't speak for LG, but I'm missing this feature too coming from a Note 4. Since getting this phone I am forced to take full screenshots only, even though most times I needed a small portion only. Would really like to know if there's an app or something for this.
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What was it called in the Note? Like "Smart Capture" or something? That was really handy. LGs implementation is possibly even better. Both have their pros and cons.
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What was it called in the Note? Like "Smart Capture" or something? That was really handy. LGs implementation is possibly even better. Both have their pros and cons.
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Yes, Smart Select.
So I found a couple that are sort of nice... Not perfect but will do the trick for now. One is free. One is a paid app. Unfortunately, the paid one is much slicker (comes with 48 hour trial). I attached a screenshot with the two apps shown on my home screen.
Screenshot Crop and Share (Free)
Screen'it (Paid)
Other exciting screenshot capture options
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hello All! I currently own an LG V20 and am getting the Pixel XL in February (allegedly). One feature I will need a proper replacement for is the Capture+ app. If you have never used it, It was much like the Note 5/7 in that you can get screenshots of only pertinent parts of the screen.
Being a system app it cannot be downloaded , but I cannot find any apps that do something similar. Does anyone know of any apps that do this? Any other suggestions for quickly getting partial screenshots?
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ithehappy said:
Can't speak for LG, but I'm missing this feature too coming from a Note 4. Since getting this phone I am forced to take full screenshots only, even though most times I needed a small portion only. Would really like to know if there's an app or something for this.
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I too wanna port of an app called "Smart Select"【https://youtu.be/OWcAeMXUuS4】 in Samsung S8 which can capture a small rectangular portion, capture in different shapes (predefined or using lasso tool), LONG CAPTURE and a GIF CAPTURE with various pro editing options.
If someone finds any app with all the above features, please reply!!!
48 hour trial would be worth it.
I know you can edit your screenshot and crop after, but be interesting to see what people find/recommend for a non native app
For those unaware, you can do this in Lineage without an app. Just add enable screenshot option in the power menu and then long press it and it will let you drag and select an area to screenshot.
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For those unaware, you can do this in Lineage without an app. Just add enable screenshot option in the power menu and then long press it and it will let you drag and select an area to screenshot.
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The thing about the Samsung version of it is that the selection area let's you reposition then capture. Also has settings to share directly and cancel without saving. I believe right now the rom that does this natively is RR. It even scales the whole screen down so you don't have to drag to the very edge.
Did anyone ever find out about or port this app
I use fooview