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Need A stable Rom

Camera must good quality ?

Maby a no brainer... OOS stable?

This is not a babysitters club. Go try them out and see for yourself.

zelendel said:
This is not a babysitters club. Go try them out and see for yourself.
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And delete the thread. Thanks!

Stable and good camera. Stay on OOS, simple as that

what about aospa?

LOS is stable and if you know what to do even with a good camera quality. But for ppl not able to test around I fully support the OOS suggestion.

Stick to stock OOS. Custom roms can never be as stable as stock. Harsh truth.

maxs8007 said:
Stick to stock OOS. Custom roms can never be as stable as stock. Harsh truth.
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Well Oneplus has not a really stable-like reputation.

Define "stable " Siré

maxs8007 said:
Stick to stock OOS. Custom roms can never be as stable as stock. Harsh truth.
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I would have to disagree. It all depends on the rom. Builds using los as a base do tend to be a bit unstable. So does PA. Find a rom based on pure aosp that is not a cherry pick kitchen sink rom and it is just as stable or even more so.

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Amar5373 said:
Camera must good quality
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Give LineAge OS from SultanXDA a try
Perfect camera, absolutely stable, great battery life
https://youtu.be/vZOL7gEKHuc

actually most ROMs on development section and cross development section are both stable and has great camera... look for the roms that has the latest Gcam (google camera), the images are as good (if not better) than stock... the camera issue is almost not a factor for sometime now...
also most roms are reasonably stable, i tried almost all of them and all depends on your taste, there are ones with a lot of features and ones with just the basics...
no one can till you what you'll like, list the set of features you require, search both forums and look into roms, read through few pages specially at the end to see the current state of the rom, search if you want to ask about something (because someone asked it before you and was answered)...narrow down your choices and select one and try... if you don't like it, try the next...etc until you like one, you'll learn a lot about what you really require in the process.

theduke7 said:
actually most ROMs on development section and cross development section are both stable and has great camera... look for the roms that has the latest Gcam (google camera), the images are as good (if not better) than stock... the camera issue is almost not a factor for sometime now...
also most roms are reasonably stable, i tried almost all of them and all depends on your taste, there are ones with a lot of features and ones with just the basics...
no one can till you what you'll like, list the set of features you require, search both forums and look into roms, read through few pages specially at the end to see the current state of the rom, search if you want to ask about something (because someone asked it before you and was answered)...narrow down your choices and select one and try... if you don't like it, try the next...etc until you like one, you'll learn a lot about what you really require in the process.
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A warning. Those that do use the modded Google camera use a camera Hal that breaks other things. Not a worry really for the average user but Important all the same.

Try NucleaR ROM, it will surprise you

if you want real stability in custom roms, there is only one rom you can try, Paranoid Android, most stable custom rom

Which is the best ROM for MZP ?

Hello everyone, im kinda new with the MZP forum and want to know which is the best ROM for the mzp, i dont care if it is Android Nougat or Oreo or P.
Thanks

lauty_66 said:
Hello everyone, im kinda new with the MZP forum and want to know which is the best ROM for the mzp, i dont care if it is Android Nougat or Oreo or P.
Thanks
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That question is about as loaded as asking an international group of people what the best chocolate chip cookie is. Like any smart person would advise you, the best one for you is the one you like the most.

Jimi Mack said:
That question is about as loaded as asking an international group of people what the best chocolate chip cookie is. Like any smart person would advise you, the best one for you is the one you like the most.
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I know haha sorry for that. I forgot to say that im new with this type of stuff, im with stock 8.0 and never tried any ROM. That's why im asking in this forum. When i ask which is the best ROM i say which one has less bugs, better design, etc.

lauty_66 said:
I know haha sorry for that. I forgot to say that im new with this type of stuff, im with stock 8.0 and never tried any ROM. That's why im asking in this forum. When i ask which is the best ROM i say which one has less bugs, better design, etc.
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Stay with Stock for now... Oreo is still new for the MZP enjoy it.

There's no stable Oreo ROM as of now, and stock Oreo is better than most of the nougat builds, so I guess we need to wait for some time for a good MZP Oreo build.

Ky5 said:
There's no stable Oreo ROM as of now, and stock Oreo is better than most of the nougat builds, so I guess we need to wait for some time for a good MZP Oreo build.
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How is "stable" is defined in this context? (Serious question, not a challenge or a troll) Is a ROM just informally judged as "stable" by general consensus, or it some formal release or declaration that makes it "officially" stable?
I installed RR 6.1 (O 8.1) 8 days ago and haven't had a single glitch (literally, not a single issue). I know that's only one data point though.

sac02 said:
How is "stable" is defined in this context? (Serious question, not a challenge or a troll) Is a ROM just informally judged as "stable" by general consensus, or it some formal release or declaration that makes it "officially" stable?
I installed RR 6.1 (O 8.1) 8 days ago and haven't had a single glitch (literally, not a single issue). I know that's only one data point though.
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how's battery life ?

sac02 said:
How is "stable" is defined in this context? (Serious question, not a challenge or a troll) Is a ROM just informally judged as "stable" by general consensus, or it some formal release or declaration that makes it "officially" stable?
I installed RR 6.1 (O 8.1) 8 days ago and haven't had a single glitch (literally, not a single issue). I know that's only one data point though.
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Yes, most of the development teams do that (even RR).
They're just termed based on the development state of that ROM, The Official ROMs (stable) are released after fixing the known bugs or issues, where as the other builds like beta, nightlies (daily), weekly builds are initial builds which needs to be worked on to resolve the bugs or issues.
I've used AOSP based Oreo just for gcam but went back to stock after a while because of some bugs, even if you tried it for a week you might not have used all the functions right.
So at the end it all comes down to your personal flavor.
If you're okay with the build, you can use it as your daily driver.

Mario3DS said:
how's battery life ?
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I think it's amazing, but i don't have the best frame of reference because I can't really differentiate between the device and the ROM. I purchased the MZP just a couple weeks ago from a guy who had put O 8.0 stock on it, then I almost immediately put RR on it. So I don't have a real baseline to compare to. I can say that using BBS on a 12hr overnight idle test I get 0.1%/hr which I consider excellent.
Ky5 said:
Yes, most of the development teams do that (even RR).
They're just termed based on the development state of that ROM, The Official ROMs (stable) are released after fixing the known bugs or issues, where as the other builds like beta, nightlies (daily), weekly builds are initial builds which needs to be worked on to resolve the bugs or issues.
I've used AOSP based Oreo just for gcam but went back to stock after a while because of some bugs, even if you tried it for a week you might not have used all the functions right.
So at the end it all comes down to your personal flavor.
If you're okay with the build, you can use it as your daily driver.
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Cool, thanks for the info. This is just anecdotal but I'll say that I've explored this ROM pretty darn thoroughly (hours and hours, literally), partially because it is this first new ROM I've had since a custom L 5.0 (GoldenEye) that I've been running on my GS4 for the last 4 years, and partially because I'm neurotic and want to explore and tweak everything, it's a sickness lol.. I won't claim to have run it through the full battery of SW dev QA testing, but I have used it VERY extensively, fwiw.

I use Alberto97's AOSP 8.1 as a daily. A close second for me would be AmulyaX's 7.1.2. Both rock solid for me.

How do you pick a custom Rom?

Hey guys, I have not been in the romming business (is that a phrase?) For a long time, maybe since I've had the Galaxy S2. I've been looking around for quite some time on these forums and I couldn't really decide on anything, everything seems really good. Which one would you pick between the popular ones? Lineage, resurrection, Nitrogen and so on?

Lineage 15.1 is running smooth. Resurrection Remix is the most customization Rom but Lineage OS and RR version 9.0 is very running well with oneplus 3T. Nitrogen might running smooth but i don't like icon shape is square.

99nirc99 said:
Hey guys, I have not been in the romming business (is that a phrase?) For a long time, maybe since I've had the Galaxy S2. I've been looking around for quite some time on these forums and I couldn't really decide on anything, everything seems really good. Which one would you pick between the popular ones? Lineage, resurrection, Nitrogen and so on?
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It really depends on what you need. There are many who are happy with the OOS. Some are never satisfied.
Decide on what you basically need in a ROM and then read the OPs of all the ROMs and also the last few pages of their threads to find out how they perform against your requirements. Shortlist a few, then install them one by one and run them for a few days to check for yourself. No one's opinion can be a substitute for your own.

tnsmani said:
It really depends on what you need. There are many who are happy with the OOS. Some are never satisfied.
Decide on what you basically need in a ROM and then read the OPs of all the ROMs and also the last few pages of their threads to find out how they perform against your requirements. Shortlist a few, then install them one by one and run them for a few days to check for yourself. No one's opinion can be a substitute for your own.
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So I listened to your advice and installed resurrection remix a few days ago. I like the features but honestly my phone became even slower than before and it's quite unbearable. What would you say is the best ROM performance wise? I'm ready to try another one and I realized performance is the most important thing for me.

99nirc99 said:
So I listened to your advice and installed resurrection remix a few days ago. I like the features but honestly my phone became even slower than before and it's quite unbearable. What would you say is the best ROM performance wise? I'm ready to try another one and I realized performance is the most important thing for me.
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You can try SkyDragon and Nitrogen OS. I am not saying that they are the best performancewise but overall they seem to be better.

tnsmani said:
You can try SkyDragon and Nitrogen OS. I am not saying that they are the best performancewise but overall they seem to be better.
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Do you think they're better than OOS performance wise? What about Lineage? damn its so hard picking one lol

My suggestion would be dirty unicorns but Android P is their final build so only do it if you want to flash and forget.

Question Lineage vs crDroid

I've been pretty out of it for the past basically half a decade so I'm a bit out of the loop as far as the newer roms. But from what I can tell for what I want Lineage seems to be the best custom rom. A nice clean AOSP experience with improvements. To tell the truth I would probably just stick with Oxygen OS if it weren't such a ***** to perform updates while rooted. That said, crDroid is Lineage + some more improvements. So, what do you guys think? Does crDroid add enough value to justify it over just getting Lineage? What are some of your favorite crDroid features that Lineage lacks? (for those that prefer it) And what are some of the things crDroid does/has that Lineage doesn't that you *don't* like? (For those that prefer Lineage)
Thanks for the opinions, will really help me make my choice.

What do you mean pain in the ass to update while rooted?
Nothing is changed. You only restore boot image, update, install root to inactive slot, reboot.

bokkoman said:
What do you mean pain in the ass to update while rooted?
Nothing is changed. You only restore boot image, update, install root to inactive slot, reboot.
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Thanks for answer the question and sticking to the topic

What i've learned since years of root/unlocking bootloader/flashing roms is that you should also considering a rom depending on who's maintening it. A good maintener will provide a more stable rom and frequent updates.

Klbgr said:
What i've learned since years of root/unlocking bootloader/flashing roms is that you should also considering a rom depending on who's maintening it. A good maintener will provide a more stable rom and frequent updates.
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LineageOS as a firmware is tried and true and very stable, but doesnt innovate a lot, it's meant to be a solid clean base. crDroid has been pushing a lot of new features but might be less stable. The maintainers there seem to be actively trying to do a lot.

dkcats3 said:
LineageOS as a firmware is tried and true and very stable, but doesnt innovate a lot, it's meant to be a solid clean base. crDroid has been pushing a lot of new features but might be less stable. The maintainers there seem to be actively trying to do a lot.
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crDroid is still far away from Resurrection Remix, it should be very stable.

Klbgr said:
crDroid is still far away from Resurrection Remix, it should be very stable.
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what do you mean is far away from ressurection remix? Im not sure i understand the comparison youre making.

dkcats3 said:
what do you mean is far away from ressurection remix? Im not sure i understand the comparison youre making.
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I mean crDroid has some a lot of features but it's nothing compared to features of RR, which is pretty stable. What I'm saying is that RR is still pretty stable with all those features, so you shouldn't worry about stability with crDroid.

Klbgr said:
I mean crDroid has some a lot of features but it's nothing compared to features of RR, which is pretty stable. What I'm saying is that RR is still pretty stable with all those features, so you shouldn't worry about stability with crDroid.
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Oh I just meant they are experimenting with lots of things like a new custom kernel and built in gapps and twrp and things

dkcats3 said:
Oh I just meant they are experimenting with lots of things like a new custom kernel and built in gapps and twrp and things
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Custom kernel may be better than stock kernel. Built-in Gapps are often more stable than any other flashable Gapps.
I'd recommend to try crDroid by yourself and if it doesn't fit your usage, then switch to lineage. Never try, never know.

Klbgr said:
crDroid is still far away from Resurrection Remix, it should be very stable.
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And I thought RR was long dead.

Crdroid is 100 percent stable right now and running flawlessly on my TMobile variant. I haven't seen battery life this good since my 6t either! This is with the kernel that comes with crdroid, didn't tweak any settings in kernel app.

For the record I was nowhere near this good of battery on oos I was maybe getting 3 to 3 and a half hours of sot for 50 percent battery. Crdroid kicks the crap out of that.

hadesflames said:
I've been pretty out of it for the past basically half a decade so I'm a bit out of the loop as far as the newer roms. But from what I can tell for what I want Lineage seems to be the best custom rom. A nice clean AOSP experience with improvements. To tell the truth I would probably just stick with Oxygen OS if it weren't such a ***** to perform updates while rooted. That said, crDroid is Lineage + some more improvements. So, what do you guys think? Does crDroid add enough value to justify it over just getting Lineage? What are some of your favorite crDroid features that Lineage lacks? (for those that prefer it) And what are some of the things crDroid does/has that Lineage doesn't that you *don't* like? (For those that prefer Lineage)
Thanks for the opinions, will really help me make my choice.
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Cr-droid has google apps and lineage does not. Call screen built in. It's a pixel experience.

mattie_49 said:
Cr-droid has google apps and lineage does not. Call screen built in. It's a pixel experience.
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do note that we have gapps just because for now without proper TWRP you can't easy install them
crDroid is normally without Gapps and we plan to remove them as soon as TWRP is ready

Klbgr said:
crDroid is still far away from Resurrection Remix, it should be very stable.
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Bro I think you've been found victim to the power of branding. Under no shape or form was Resurrection Remix ever better than CrDroid. A cooler boot splash logo, but that's about it.
And why is this a gentleman even comparing this to lineage? CrDroid IS lineage, with way way more features, slightly better performance.
Dumb thread.

Burt Squirtz said:
Bro I think you've been found victim to the power of branding. Under no shape or form was Resurrection Remix ever better than CrDroid. A cooler boot splash logo, but that's about it.
And why is this a gentleman even comparing this to lineage? CrDroid IS lineage, with way way more features, slightly better performance.
Dumb thread.
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I've never said it was better. I meant RR has more features.

Burt Squirtz said:
Bro I think you've been found victim to the power of branding. Under no shape or form was Resurrection Remix ever better than CrDroid. A cooler boot splash logo, but that's about it.
And why is this a gentleman even comparing this to lineage? CrDroid IS lineage, with way way more features, slightly better performance.
Dumb thread.
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OP admitted they haven't been in the custom ROM game awhile, but if this is a dumb thread why take your time to say anything? Dumb reply.

gwolfu said:
we plan to remove them as soon as TWR
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Booo
Burt Squirtz said:
Bro I think you've been found victim to the power of branding. Under no shape or form was Resurrection Remix ever better than CrDroid. A cooler boot splash logo, but that's about it.
And why is this a gentleman even comparing this to lineage? CrDroid IS lineage, with way way more features, slightly better performance.
Dumb thread.
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I would apologize but it's kind of not my fault that you're illiterate. You should try learning how to read before you bother posting such idiotic responses. I literally said in my OP that crDroid is Lineage + extra features. The purpose of this topic is for me to decide whether or not I CARE about those features enough to pick crDroid over Lineage in the first place.
Truly hope you learn how to read before you post stupid comments in the future mate. Good luck.
To everyone else, thanks for your replies. Very helpful. Would still like to get some examples of things fans of crDroid like that's in crDroid but not in Lineage if possible.

hadesflames said:
Booo
I would apologize but it's kind of not my fault that you're illiterate. You should try learning how to read before you bother posting such idiotic responses. I literally said in my OP that crDroid is Lineage + extra features. The purpose of this topic is for me to decide whether or not I CARE about those features enough to pick crDroid over Lineage in the first place.
Truly hope you learn how to read before you post stupid comments in the future mate. Good luck.
To everyone else, thanks for your replies. Very helpful. Would still like to get some examples of things fans of crDroid like that's in crDroid but not in Lineage if possible.
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I understand you're upset that you created a dumb thread. Everyone knows most ROMs are usually a lineage base. Lineage is very stripped down. Almost any custom ROM is probably technically better than lineage because it has more useful features.
And no that's not what you said originally in your first post. You probably went back and edited it.
How about we don't look too far/read into posts and be friends?

Question why do custom roms improve more performance? why are some original roms so bad?

I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it

If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.

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If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
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They also clearly copy some UI Design from iOS
which is not bad... It looks good.
But my biggest problem with MIUI is that, it breaks standard Android features.
Like broken Gestures on 3rd-Party Launchers.
Or the MIUI Permission-system breaking apps like Instagram.
or MIUI's battery optimisation being too extreme...
I don't hate MIUI, but it's 很胖 (very fat)

Custom ROMs are not bad per se, but they are made for ppl who want their phone to run without gving it too much thought. MIUI is not the worst Stock ROM imho, but clearly made for John D. Noob.
If you debloat MIUI, you can get along with it if you don't need to much customization.
Btw, battery is usually best on stock ROMS in my experience.
But if you want real control over your phone, or need features that the manufacturer doesn't want you to have, you deffo need a custom ROM.
Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.

I usually move away from a stock rom as updates are slow to arrive.
When i was looking for a upgrade for my LG G7, i settled for the F3 because it was Very good value for money, was easy to unlock and had great Dev support on XDA.
For me the other downside of a MIUI stock rom apart from the bloat ware and slow updates, was not being able to use my Samsung Smartwatch as a trusted device, as Miui Stock would only permit Xiaomi devices.
Switching to the Evo-X rom, gave me back all the functionality I needed and is fast enough for me.

tanukitanuki said:
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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custom roms, nah
custom modifications, yes
you can reach same or more performance on stock, if you just modify it
most or all custom roms are modified by the rom dev ofcourse, that is why its got better performance than stock

tanukitanuki said:
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about

MacTavishFR said:
Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
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dont go around dissing devs without knowing anything about them
pretty sure devs hired by big companies like xiaomi would know about optimizations better than any custom rom dev
when custom rom devs start making bug free roms, go around dissing stock devs as you like

If you have a sub-flagship or flagship device it doesn't matter if that's a Xiaomi or not changing your rom into custom rom is kinda useless, because the stock rom is good enough and more stable(not 100% stable) and if you longing for more performance for flashing an AOSP base rom it's kinda useless base on my experience because it only increases like 1-2% in pure stock no modifications especially in Poco F3.
For me AOSP roms are only good for midrange and lowend devices, i have spare phone here it's RN8 and i changed my rom from MIUI to AOSP and the difference is night and day my mind is blown to the ram management.

From the first day i was in ArrowOS because Miui roms was a little poor in performance, not so much fast like AOSP roms, but one day i tried one of the last stable Miui EU roms and i was impressed how good became, sound and haptics it's just much better than AOSP, autobrightness works as intended, camera it's better that Gcam and SOT it's (in my use, the same).
So i'm with the last comment, in Poco F3 i think the last MIUI EU for example isn't bad, phone runs well and all works. Just tried the last Stable MIUI 13 and now the MIUI 14 EU beta build and i think it's a little more smooth than previous build.
I think any phone with A13 will run smoother than A12.1 builds, in my old Mi A1 just noticed that (and it's too old).

Wmbruckner said:
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Nah, dude.
They took money in advance for that. On the other hand, people buy pixel devices because they have updates guaranteed.
They do earn money from it indirectly. A lot. Otherwise it wouldn't have been a thing.