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radiation protector

does anyone here have one and if so, which brand do you use?

Are you talking about those things you stick on the phone to reduce radiation? Those things are a joke. Nothing you stick on your phone is going to reduce or block radiation to any significant degree. And if it did, it would also affect your phone reception. Remember, cell phone radiation goes right through buildings, trees, cars, etc. A little sticker isn't going to block it.
Those things are just like the stickers that are supposed to amplify your cell signal for better reception. They do nothing, and are just a waste of money. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same product, just sold in a different package.
If you want to reduce your exposure, buy a phone with a low SAR, minimize your use, and keep the phone as far away from your body as is practical when not in use.

Just wanted to second that. The information posted is 100% correct.

redpoint73 said:
Are you talking about those things you stick on the phone to reduce radiation? Those things are a joke. Nothing you stick on your phone is going to reduce or block radiation to any significant degree. And if it did, it would also affect your phone reception. Remember, cell phone radiation goes right through buildings, trees, cars, etc. A little sticker isn't going to block it.
Those things are just like the stickers that are supposed to amplify your cell signal for better reception. They do nothing, and are just a waste of money. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same product, just sold in a different package.
If you want to reduce your exposure, buy a phone with a low SAR, minimize your use, and keep the phone as far away from your body as is practical when not in use.
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That can't happen with me. I need my phone with me most of the time. Don't worry - You'll find me in a few years. I'll be the only person on earth glowing green

lol, thanks guys.
I just got worried bc i will be carrying around 2 tp2' now instead of one S) and on one, I will have data running constantly.

Get a bluetooth headseat and keep the phone just within range of it

MarioSS666 said:
Get a bluetooth headseat and keep the phone just within range of it
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yep... Bluetooth headset and keep it in your pocket... that way the radiation isn't going to your brain but to your crotch!

PHONE DO NOT WORK THIS WAY!
Mobile phones use non-ionizing microwave radiation and you will NOT get cancer from them.

info: Nokia is working on WIFI charging phones

I just found this very interesting article:
Nokia are currently involved in research which means you might never need to use a charger again. Sound like a dream come true, right? If you're anything like me you'll have suffered the dreaded final 'beeps' when you've stayed round a mates house, and wouldn't you know it, no one has a compatible charger!
Nokia are already going some way to hep combat that, by bringing in the new universal 'micro USB charger on some of its devices, but seeing as that won't happen till 2012 (hopefully) it's still pretty frustrating. And what if you're on a campsite? No one really fancies arm cranking the battery do they?
Well research is currently focusing on using aeromagnetic radiation to charge phones, so goodbye wires and chargers. The idea is that the radiation emitted through Wi-Fi transmitters, TV masts and the like could be converted into a current that would charge your battery.
The Nokia Research lab in Cambridge is full of boffins trying to find the best way to harvest this energy- and how to use it safely and effectively. It might mean that they'd have to create a specially designed handset- but the pros would far outweigh the cons.
If they succeed in converting electromagnetic waves into an electrical signal it could mean a whole new generation of phones- and if they combine that with solar cells, you could be looking at kit that is super green as well.
No release date is set yet, but it's good to know they're putting their science degrees to good use.
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i think while it surely IS a good idea, it may not work quite as well. What I gathered from my few lessons of magnetism etc in physics, is that it takes quite some field to actually get a current from it; meaning the phones would have to be bigger. I'm a sceptic, but if it works, then yay. I still prefer the idea of having solar panels embedded in the screen (i think there's a phone already that does it); something like THIS http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10235480-54.html (edit: because if you have no Wi-Fi networks around you, you may still have sunlight )

Solar ist still a Bad Idea. How long Art Jou supposed go habe it in zur daylight? Another idea would-be a kinetic charge like used in watches. So it loads in your pocket as well as in bad weather

HorNet505 said:
Solar ist still a Bad Idea. How long Art Jou supposed go habe it in zur daylight? Another idea would-be a kinetic charge like used in watches. So it loads in your pocket as well as in bad weather
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Kinetic only works because watches barely use any energy. It will probably not even charge your phone by 1%.

No thermal protection shutdown on WM7?

Beware of family jewels if you're carrying WM7 phone in your front pants pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0AkFUYpLQ&feature=player_embedded

WOW, there are a lot os sick people but this is the sickest of all

I'm not looking for knee jerk reaction to this video. This is a valid question from someone who's familiar with four corner testing which includes thermal testing. The correct behavior is to shut down once a temperature threshold is reached as seen with the Android and iOS devices. The WM7 device dangerously continues to operate beyond threshold.

mi7chy said:
I'm not looking for knee jerk reaction to this video. This is a valid question from someone who's familiar with four corner testing which includes thermal testing. The correct behavior is to shut down once a temperature threshold is reached as seen with the Android and iOS devices. The WM7 device dangerously continues to operate beyond threshold.
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"Beware of family jewels if you're carrying WM7 phone in your front pants pocket."
"I'm not looking for knee jerk reaction"
then ask for a normal reaction , if you only post this video from an idiot burning 3 of the most expensive phones on a grill you can expect these reactions .
This is a valid question from someone who's familiar with four corner testing which includes thermal testing
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oh , and offcourse they do that all on a 10 bugs grill

No need to get emotional. This is a silly stunt video indeed but there is something to gain from it since it might expose the lack of or malfunction of thermal shutdown protection in WM7. A lot of people including myself keep their phone in their front pants pocket. Why wouldn't they be concerned f thermal shutdown protection isn't working and knowing that lithium batteries can be unpredictable when exceeding normal operating temperature?

Lithium batteries explode because of impurities in the electrolyte (or whatever it's called there) causing short circuits. This is purely an internal condition, and no thermal shutdown protection will save your gonads if it happens. So relax and get a life really.

vangrieg said:
Lithium batteries explode because of impurities in the electrolyte (or whatever it's called there) causing short circuits. This is purely an internal condition, and no thermal shutdown protection will save your gonads if it happens. So relax and get a life really.
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Wrong dear. This thread doesn't apply to you if you have no family jewels.
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dell-battery-fire.htm
"batteries could overheat, potentially causing burns, an explosion or a fire"
"If the battery gets hot through use or recharging, the pieces of metal can move around, much like grains of rice in a pot of water. If a piece of metal gets too close to the separator, it can puncture the separator and cause a short circuit. There are a few possible scenarios for what can go wrong in the case of a short circuit:
If it creates a spark, the flammable liquid can ignite, causing a fire.
If it causes the temperature inside the battery to rise rapidly, the battery can explode due to the increased pressure."

and we see all 3 devices explode at the end of the video (I don't know which version is linked, the one I saw yesterday had all 3's batteries swell and burst, and the flames flared up)

ceesheim said:
"Beware of family jewels if you're carrying WM7 phone in your front pants pocket."
"I'm not looking for knee jerk reaction"
then ask for a normal reaction , if you only post this video from an idiot burning 3 of the most expensive phones on a grill you can expect these reactions .
oh , and offcourse they do that all on a 10 bugs grill
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Why is he an idiot? If I could afford to cook three expensive phones, I'd probably have the kind of job an idiot wouldn't. Please explain.

mi7chy said:
Wrong dear. This thread doesn't apply to you if you have no family jewels.
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dell-battery-fire.htm
"batteries could overheat, potentially causing burns, an explosion or a fire"
"If the battery gets hot through use or recharging, the pieces of metal can move around, much like grains of rice in a pot of water. If a piece of metal gets too close to the separator, it can puncture the separator and cause a short circuit. There are a few possible scenarios for what can go wrong in the case of a short circuit:
If it creates a spark, the flammable liquid can ignite, causing a fire.
If it causes the temperature inside the battery to rise rapidly, the battery can explode due to the increased pressure."
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Nice detective work there... you quoted a laptop battery article.
This has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7 and is mere sensationalism to create a non-fact base, non-realistic controversy.
Btw if you create a spark or rapidly rise the temperature on anything, it usually catches on fire or explodes. That applies to 99% of everything on this planet.

I'm not sure if it really matters. As someone mentioned, all three ended up going because they were continually exposed to the high temperature. Simply shutting the device down wouldn't prevent that in this scenario.
Lesson learned: don't grill your phone.

XeNoMoRpH1030 said:
I'm not sure if it really matters. As someone mentioned, all three ended up going because they were continually exposed to the high temperature. Simply shutting the device down wouldn't prevent that in this scenario.
Lesson learned: don't grill your phone.
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you have to look the other way around ( that was external heating , if that was the way you would be already dead before the phone explode )
the os has to shut down when it get internally hot ( like a software bug , overcharging the batt , or a gps + wifi making the phone go hot )
and that is there , when I turn on wifi and gps and I am charging the batt the phone will reboot after some time (it reboot because it is on charge )
edit: I only think it is a bug that the phone reboot after a shutdown by overheating.
edit: ps it is WP7 and not WM7

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Lesson learned: don't grill your phone.
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Amen to that brother!
No but really. The point is that the phone doesn't shut down if it would overheat on it's own. So, say that the phone by some reason should overheat to the point where there is a risk of the battery exploding.

i think if you phone gets hot enough to need to shut down...it's over anyway. Shutting down automatically isn't gonna save anything. There will be no cases of burnt faces like with the iPhone

Krissrock said:
i think if you phone gets hot enough to need to shut down...it's over anyway. Shutting down automatically isn't gonna save anything. There will be no cases of burnt faces like with the iPhone
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It depends if the battery explodes or not.

smuook said:
Nice detective work there... you quoted a laptop battery article.
This has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7 and is mere sensationalism to create a non-fact base, non-realistic controversy.
Btw if you create a spark or rapidly rise the temperature on anything, it usually catches on fire or explodes. That applies to 99% of everything on this planet.
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Except the water, and it is 70% of the planet's surface

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FcwRYfUBLM
I guess we should stay away from water and microwaves too...
It must be true cause I saw it on the Internet.

There are some who get it and the majority who don't. Unfortunately, the majority think that the HTC WP7 won while the HTC Android failed in the video. Or, that the added cost of thermal shutdown protection now built into phones is not there for a reason. Or, those that keep stating the obvious that lithium batteries burst when exposed to fire but fail to comprehend how the phone should've behave prior to reaching that critical point. These are probably the same people who will argue that a faulty smoke detector is of no consequence because houses seldom catch on fire or that you would know about it if it happened without a working smoke detector or that it would be too late even with a functional smoke detector. To each his own ballz. Let Darwin sort them out.

mi7chy said:
...Or, those that keep stating the obvious that lithium batteries burst when exposed to fire but fail to comprehend how the phone should've behave prior to reaching that critical point.
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I think you don't get it. The whole scenario and entering arguments for this are unrealistic and ridiculous. Nobody cares.

Electric charge question

I don't know if I am being paranoid, but I feel the slightest tingle/itch in my hand when holding the GNEX (gsm), this is not when the phone is charging just during normal use. Took it back to shop the guys there thought I was crazy
Anyone notice anything similar?

It might be the 3 pogo pins on the side of the phone. Try putting sticky tape over them and see if it changes anything. Some people are just more susceptible to getting shocked than others.
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Certainly can't rule out entirely the possibility that you're feeling something, but the chance is extremely remote.
The battery is a standard LiIon single cell @ 3.7V. When operating, it's probably around 3.5-3.6. That is well below the sensitivity threshold for virtually everyone on skin.
Further, if you were this sensitive, you would have encountered other low voltages that tingled your fingers/hand over and over, so you likely would know what this was already. Heck, if 3.5 volts gives you a tingle, handling a 9V battery would be rather uncomfortable!
It's likely psychosomatic, or maybe some peripheral nerve reaction to the pressure from holding the edge of the phone -- not uncommon when pressure is applied to a narrow ridgeline in the palm or fingers.

Thanks guys. I think I probably am a bit extra sensitive to dc current. I'm just worried that I might have a defective unit. I've been to few shops and the demo units are housed into anti-theft devices so u can't actually hold the phone.

ok, I found that when input the phone in airplane mode I don't feel the tingle. it's got to be a faulty unit. I am going on Holliday in a few hours for a week, will take back to the shop when I return and get them to exchange it.

Unbelievable, OnePlus, what a shady tactic...

So Ive just discovered that with the most recent update to my 8 Pro, OnePlus has completely disabled "warp"/"dash" charging on 3rd party charging cables. How do I know? Ive been using one since I got the phone, and have a brand new backup 3rd party cable as well to confirm my findings.
The reason I have a 3rd party cable is the distance from my night stand to my nearest outlet. The standard cable just isn't long enough. So when I got the phone I did some research and found that the cables I purchased were one of the few aftermarket cables available that actually supported dash charging. And they worked just fine. I could charge from 20 to 80 percent in about 25-30 mins, and the lightning symbol appeared, using these aftermarket cables. Now all of a sudden, after about 6 months with the phone, I cannot.
I thought the first cable may have gotten a short, so I went and grabbed my brand new backup, still in the original packaging, and plugged it in. Nope, only a sloe trickle charge. Then I started thinking "Oh no, did my power brick break??? So I went to the closet and snagged the original OnePlus Cable that came with the phone. Wala, warp charge reactivates.
It just seems absolutely rediculous to me that now I have to somehow try to find a genuine OnePlus cable that is at least 10 feet long and it will cost me a rediculous amount of money. Way to play the Apple game, OnePlus. Im pretty sure this will be the last OnePlus I ever purchase, if this is the behavior I am to expect from this company. Is is absolutely NOT OK to use tactics like this to advance sales if you ask me. Plus the price of OnePlus devices is less of a "Flagship Killer" and more of just a regular flagship anymore. As someone who started out with the OnePlus 2 and has watched this company grow, I would say that disappointed is the understatement of the year as to how I feel about the company these days. The fact that they locked out dash charge with a software lock is the final straw for me. Goodbye OnePlus ?.

I think there's actual reasoning why the cable is quite short, I'd have thought it a power issue, also substantially thicker.
Also their charger will be rated and tested to work with the phone, would you approve of someone using a third party component in your product? Of course not.
if you use a 3rd party charger/ cable and it develops a fault? First thing you're going to do is go back to OnePlus, chances are most end users would withhold the fact that they used a 3rd party charger / cable at all.
Not only that but what kind of a business would allow their party piece to be used with a cheaper and untested alternative?
I don't completely agree with it but I totally understand it.
From an ethical point of view and practical.
Are you charging your phone overnight? You stated night stand? If you are then you're going to cause a problem with your phone sooner rather than later anyway, couple that with a third party charger and your multiplying the possibility of failure and or unwanted issues.
Tbh by limiting the power your phone's taking they may actually be inadvertently prolonging the life of your battery..
Up to you if you carry on buying OnePlus, I think for the price (which is higher) you will have a very very hard time to find something similar, I'd put the 8 pro up against any phone in nearly any department, to stop using them because they're protecting their product? Lol come on, swallow that 3rd party pride.
Don't charge overnight, use the proper charger, be happier for longer :

I think it's not the cable
There is a bug in Android 11 all versions, beta and not
But it does not impact all users
I was in contact with the support and delivered some log details etc and they confirm me it's a bug and they will fix it with a software update
Basically it's Only charging with max 18 Watt then
As it does not impact all phones (no clue why) most of the people are still fine

That's odd, I'm currently using a 3rd Party 6ft cable and I can warp charge on Android 11. I currently use this one.

dladz said:
I think there's actual reasoning why the cable is quite short, I'd have thought it a power issue, also substantially thicker.
Also their charger will be rated and tested to work with the phone, would you approve of someone using a third party component in your product? Of course not.
if you use a 3rd party charger/ cable and it develops a fault? First thing you're going to do is go back to OnePlus, chances are most end users would withhold the fact that they used a 3rd party charger / cable at all.
Not only that but what kind of a business would allow their party piece to be used with a cheaper and untested alternative?
I don't completely agree with it but I totally understand it.
From an ethical point of view and practical.
Are you charging your phone overnight? You stated night stand? If you are then you're going to cause a problem with your phone sooner rather than later anyway, couple that with a third party charger and your multiplying the possibility of failure and or unwanted issues.
Tbh by limiting the power your phone's taking they may actually be inadvertently prolonging the life of your battery..
Up to you if you carry on buying OnePlus, I think for the price (which is higher) you will have a very very hard time to find something similar, I'd put the 8 pro up against any phone in nearly any department, to stop using them because they're protecting their product? Lol come on, swallow that 3rd party pride.
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qvert said:
I think it's not the cable
There is a bug in Android 11 all versions, beta and not
But it does not impact all users
I was in contact with the support and delivered some log details etc and they confirm me it's a bug and they will fix it with a software update
Basically it's Only charging with max 18 Watt then
As it does not impact all phones (no clue why) most of the people are still fine
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So it turns out that they have disabled charging completely on 3rd party. I just came back to the phone after 4 hours on the 3rd party cable and the power level hadn't moved. Started at 24%, ended at 24%. So the 3rd party cable now only allows enough power to keep the phone in its current state, awesome.
And no, it makes no sense whatsoever that OnePlus would do this. This cable isn't under rated at all on power, in fact its an exact copy of the official OnePlus cable, red cable with white tips and all. All they did was reverse-engineer an original cable, and lengthen it. Its that simple. You can even tell looking into the plug ends that its an exact duplicate.
Theres nothing wrong with using this cable, its never even gotten warm when warp charging, it handles the power just as well as the original, same thickness and all. And the best part? The 2 pack of 12ft cables was just $14.99. Now thats a reasonable price for cables.
I even tried on my OnePlus Warp Car charger. Yep, 3rd party cable disables the warp charge there as well. The only way to charge with the 3rd party is to turn the phone off completely, in which case its a very slow trickle charge, taking literally 3 hours to charge up.
Welp, thats all the tests done. Guess Im just gonna go get my self an extension cord. Seems theres no other option now, the longest cord OnePlus sells is 150cm, or 6ft. Thats not good enough. Looks like Im resorting to getting the brick up and onto my night stand. To think I just warped charged on these 12ft cables literally 2 days ago Wed, Nov 11 was the last time it worked. Now even the brand new, never used cable didn't work.
Anyways, you guys are entitled to your own opinions but I really think this is a super shady move by OnePlus and I could never approve of it. Apples locked down ecosystem is exactly why Ive always hated Apple products and I could never own one, phone or otherwise. I like being able to modify my device and so Android is the obvious choice. And since the Android OS is Open Source, I think l should be able to use any cable rated for 30+ watts.
Its simple logic, and I am pretty sick of watching OnePlus SkyRocket in price anyways. There are better options these days and in a few years, when it is time, I can certainly say that I will be looking at other brands first.

12 foot cables? How far away is your bed side cabinet?
How long are your arms? Are you Dhalsim?
Jokes aside, I think 12 foot for 30watts is maybe pushing it a little. Do you happen to have a shorter cable? 6 foot maybe? Can't help but think that the length has something to do with it.
As a previous user just said, they noticed a bug and this will be fixed with an update, possible that they're looking into it.
Not sure buddy, time will tell or it won't.
It does sound like you just want to vent a bit.
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That's odd, I'm currently using a 3rd Party 6ft cable and I can warp charge on Android 11. I currently use this one.
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Length I think may be the decisive factor.
Longest cable I've ever seen officially provided with a device is the Kindle which I think may be 12 foot, but the wattage, amperage and voltage required is extremely low hence why it's ok to use.

dladz said:
12 foot cables? How far away is your bed side cabinet?
How long are your arms? Are you Dhalsim?
Jokes aside, I think 12 foot for 30watts is maybe pushing it a little. Do you happen to have a shorter cable? 6 foot maybe? Can't help but think that the length has something to do with it.
As a previous user just said, they noticed a bug and this will be fixed with an update, possible that they're looking into it.
Not sure buddy, time will tell or it won't.
It does sound like you just want to vent a bit.
Length I think may be the decisive factor.
Longest cable I've ever seen officially provided with a device is the Kindle which I think may be 12 foot, but the wattage, amperage and voltage required is extremely low hence why it's ok to use.
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Honestly, its not about venting, Ive never seen this happen on any other android device nor have I ever even heard of it happening. Remember, length has nothing to do with it considering the FACT that I had warp charge using these 12 foot cables for 6 months up until literally Wednesday this week. I purchased the cables as soon as I purchased the phone, knowing my night stand is roughly 10 feet from the nearest outlet. Its just sad to see OnePlus use such a tactic when they were once the leading "Flagship Killer" manufacturer whos founding ideas literally opposed a situation in which you were forced to purchase from within a locked ecosystem and spend more money. They have literally become Apple, and its disgusting and goes against my morals as someone who believes that large companies already bleed us way too much. It literally goes against everything OnePlus as a company is even supposed to stand for. "Never Settle"? Yeah, right, that saying means NOTHING these days, and that's a cold, hard FACT.

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Honestly, its not about venting, Ive never seen this happen on any other android device nor have I ever even heard of it happening. Remember, length has nothing to do with it considering the FACT that I had warp charge using these 12 foot cables for 6 months up until literally Wednesday this week. I purchased the cables as soon as I purchased the phone, knowing my night stand is roughly 10 feet from the nearest outlet. Its just sad to see OnePlus use such a tactic when they were once the leading "Flagship Killer" manufacturer whos founding ideas literally opposed a situation in which you were forced to purchase from within a locked ecosystem and spend more money. They have literally become Apple, and its disgusting and goes against my morals as someone who believes that large companies already bleed us way too much. It literally goes against everything OnePlus as a company is even supposed to stand for. "Never Settle"? Yeah, right, that saying means NOTHING these days, and that's a cold, hard FACT.
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Do you think that it may have to do with the fact that warp is new too, it wasn't on any other device prior to the 8 pro?
I dunno, if it's solely down to money then I agree with you, but can see why they did it (business practice)
But if be interested to see if there's a science behind it and it's there's a safety aspect involved, if thats the case then they could have done you a favour.
It'd be good to get some concise clarity.
Wouldn't go as far to call OnePlus apple mate, Huawei and Samsung sure but definitely not OnePlus.
The don't really mind you unlocking your bootloader, Samsung has an efuse chip that breaks when you modify the device with Odin (Dev software)
Huawei have completely blocked bootloader unlocking.
OnePlus until recently actually had twrp on their website?
If you unlock your bootloader you can still send it back for warranty, that's pretty opposite to Apple.
Safety (if this is why they reduced power to 3rd party cables) is mandatory to any company, saying "screw it so what if they catch fire, our customer saved some money" isn't in line with any company.
I think you're jumping the gun there.
Let's see what transpires first, seeing as another user is using a third party 6 foot cable there is no evidence that they have done that.
Your 12 foot cables may not meet their standards, after all did OnePlus release a 12 foot cable?

Not from what I can tell.
Tbh mate they have no moral obligation to support 12 foot cables.
Not bashing you btw, just giving you an objective opinion.
I can see your point but without clarity we can't see why that decision was made, coupled with the fact that they don't support that length I can't see how we can without a clear and concise response from OnePlus.
My money is on the length and potential risk.

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Not from what I can tell.
Tbh mate they have no moral obligation to support 12 foot cables.
Not bashing you btw, just giving you an objective opinion.
I can see your point but without clarity we can't see why that decision was made, coupled with the fact that they don't support that length I can't see how we can without a clear and concise response from OnePlus.
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Well you do have a decent point here, OnePlus is definitely not as bad as a couple others, YET. However, I strongly doubt it was disabled for safety reasons. As I said, the cables have worked for the past 6 months on warp charge and theyve NEVER gotten even warm, always cool to the touch. Heat is always the first indication that something is being fed too much power, believe me. I build PCs and hobby-grade RC cars. I know the limits of current and wattage. 30 watts is nothing. Im used to pushing 2000 watts through short lengths of 10AWG wire. Even my LiPo charger dishes out 200W of charge power per channel and thats not even a super high amount these days, there are chargers capable of 1000 watts out there.
RC cars are a sure-fire way to push electronics to their very limit. Little machines that can out-run real full sized cars is nothing to sneeze at. But anyways, the parts that ever got warm durching warp charge were always the phone (slightly unless being used simultaneously), and the power brick (not bad but warmer than the phone on standby receiving warp charge). Both of these are completely expected and normal behaviors and have been for years now.

wallacengineering said:
Well you do have a decent point here, OnePlus is definitely not as bad as a couple others, YET. However, I strongly doubt it was disabled for safety reasons. As I said, the cables have worked for the past 6 months on warp charge and theyve NEVER gotten even warm, always cool to the touch. Heat is always the first indication that something is being fed too much power, believe me. I build PCs and hobby-grade RC cars. I know the limits of current and wattage. 30 watts is nothing. Im used to pushing 2000 watts through short lengths of 10AWG wire. Even my LiPo charger dishes out 200W of charge power per channel and thats not even a super high amount these days, there are chargers capable of 1000 watts out there.
RC cars are a sure-fire way to push electronics to their very limit. Little machines that can out-run real full sized cars is nothing to sneeze at. But anyways, the parts that ever got warm durching warp charge were always the phone (slightly unless being used simultaneously), and the power brick (not bad but warmer than the phone on standby receiving warp charge). Both of these are completely expected and normal behaviors and have been for years now.
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Aye I've been building PC's for decades myself, bit of a tinkerer, guess a lot of people are on XDA.
I've got a friend who does the RC racing cars, they're crazy fast, all Carbon parts, costs a small fortune too, interesting hobby, got my eye on the racing drones myself.
With the cable, bottom line from me is I don't know, I wish I understood the science more. Just seems long lol, plus it's a trick missed on their part for not releasing it themselves, I can't help but think maybe there's a reason for it? If not then pfft I have no idea, if they release a new 12 foot cable soon then we have our answer.

dladz said:
Aye I've been building PC's for decades myself, bit of a tinkerer, guess a lot of people are on XDA.
I've got a friend who does the RC racing cars, they're crazy fast, all Carbon parts, costs a small fortune too, interesting hobby, got my eye on the racing drones myself.
With the cable, bottom line from me is I don't know, I wish I understood the science more. Just seems long lol, plus it's a trick missed on their part for not releasing it themselves, I can't help but think maybe there's a reason for it? If not then pfft I have no idea, if they release a new 12 foot cable soon then we have our answer.
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Ya, OnePlus releasing a 10 or 12-foot cable would just make me face palm like nobody's business ? lol.
Ya RC is fun as hell, probably the most fun an adult could ever have with a hobby. The community is amazing too, I race and bash with dozens of enthusiasts regularly just in my local area alone, we do everything from Monster Trucks to Rock Crawlers to Drift Cars to pro Racing Buggies. Just be sure to do your research. The Lithium batts aren't the same as the ones in our phones. They are incredibly power-dense and literally explode like a thermite grenade if mistreated. Luckily drone batteries are nowhere near the size of car and truck batts. My 6S LiPo is 6500mAH and 6S2P (Series-Parallel) configuration so thats 12 cells total. Its an incredibly violent and huge battery measuring 139(L)x48(W)x67mm(H) and weighs 900 grams. Its capable of burning right through 1in thick hardened alloy steel of class 12.9. Its a bad day if you set one of these guys off.
Its capable of 120 Amps of continuous current at 25 Volts (3000 watts) and bursts under 3 seconds of up to 200 Amps at 25 Volts (5000 watts). Its borderline ludacris technology. And these aren't even close to the most powerful LiPos available. Just be sure to understand that thanks to marketing, LiPo "C" discharge ratings are massively over rated and are false. Mine says 75C, which is BS, so they claim 487A continuous current when theres simply no way in hell. Tests have been done over the years to prove that C ratings are useless, so keep that in mind.
One Truck I own is the 1/8 Scale Arrma Kraton EXB. Ive put more than $1500 USD into it thus far, easily capable of 100+ MPH with appropriate gearing, capable of standing backflips, and can handle drops from 20 feet like it was just another drive home from work. Its an incredible machine, and I think you would like it. My 6S 6500mAH LiPo is responsible for powering it. Take a looksy at this review of the Kraton EXB from the second largest RC YouTuber:
https://youtu.be/DlVSj-zUlTY

wallacengineering said:
Ya, OnePlus releasing a 10 or 12-foot cable would just make me face palm like nobody's business ? lol.
Ya RC is fun as hell, probably the most fun an adult could ever have with a hobby. The community is amazing too, I race and bash with dozens of enthusiasts regularly just in my local area alone, we do everything from Monster Trucks to Rock Crawlers to Drift Cars to pro Racing Buggies. Just be sure to do your research. The Lithium batts aren't the same as the ones in our phones. They are incredibly power-dense and literally explode like a thermite grenade if mistreated. Luckily drone batteries are nowhere near the size of car and truck batts. My 6S LiPo is 6500mAH and 6S2P (Series-Parallel) configuration so thats 12 cells total. Its an incredibly violent and huge battery measuring 139(L)x48(W)x67mm(H) and weighs 900 grams. Its capable of burning right through 1in thick hardened alloy steel of class 12.9. Its a bad day if you set one of these guys off.
Its capable of 120 Amps of continuous current at 25 Volts (3000 watts) and bursts under 3 seconds of up to 200 Amps at 25 Volts (5000 watts). Its borderline ludacris technology. And these aren't even close to the most powerful LiPos available. Just be sure to understand that thanks to marketing, LiPo "C" discharge ratings are massively over rated and are false. Mine says 75C, which is BS, so they claim 487A continuous current when theres simply no way in hell. Tests have been done over the years to prove that C ratings are useless, so keep that in mind.
One Truck I own is the 1/8 Scale Arrma Kraton EXB. Ive put more than $1500 USD into it thus far, easily capable of 100+ MPH with appropriate gearing, capable of standing backflips, and can handle drops from 20 feet like it was just another drive home from work. Its an incredible machine, and I think you would like it. My 6S 6500mAH LiPo is responsible for powering it. Take a looksy at this review of the Kraton EXB from the second largest RC YouTuber:
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Haha that's mad. Brings out the inner child in every bloke in the world, you should try clay pigeon, most addictive hobby there is, I was hooked the second I tried it, I didn't miss a single shot on my first day out.
[email protected] I've seen actual cars sell for less.
I'll check out the vid, cheers
Also even if we've not solved the 12 foot OnePlus back step problem, you sound more upbeat and that's a start.
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Haha that's mad. Brings out the inner child in every bloke in the world, you should try clay pigeon, most addictive hobby there is, I was hooked the second I tried it, I didn't miss a single shot on my first day out.
[email protected] I've seen actual cars sell for less.
I'll check out the vid, cheers
Also even if we've not solved the 12 foot OnePlus back step problem, you sound more upbeat and that's a start.
:good:
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Don't get me wrong OnePlus is definitely still not impressing me right now. I considered alternatives before even buying the 8 Pro considering the price but ended up going for the innovative LPDDR5 RAM + worlds first high current wireless charging, but now this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. Guess we will cross that road when we come to it.
But RC discussions never fail to put a smile on my face, they truly are rediculous machines. You won't regret it. ?

wallacengineering said:
Don't get me wrong OnePlus is definitely still not impressing me right now. I considered alternatives before even buying the 8 Pro considering the price but ended up going for the innovative LPDDR5 RAM + worlds first high current wireless charging, but now this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. Guess we will cross that road when we come to it.
But RC discussions never fail to put a smile on my face, they truly are rediculous machines. You won't regret it. ?
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Might do, have other commitments first and if I start I know I'll be hooked.
Personally I think OnePlus is going to be the one to beat for many years to come.. I'm still hoping htc makes a comeback
Sony - boring, stupid DRM, poor battery, awful development.
LG- Mental, impractical, very poor battery, no idea on development, complicated device, impossible to implement on ROMs
Samsung - efuse chip, exynos chips on EU devices, awful all round, super expensive
Pixel - expensive, awful battery, not top tier hardware
What does that leave? The Chinese ones?
Yea I'll stick with OnePlus

dladz said:
Might do, have other commitments first and if I start I know I'll be hooked.
Personally I think OnePlus is going to be the one to beat for many years to come.. I'm still hoping htc makes a comeback
Sony - boring, stupid DRM, poor battery, awful development.
LG- Mental, impractical, very poor battery, no idea on development, complicated device, impossible to implement on ROMs
Samsung - efuse chip, exynos chips on EU devices, awful all round, super expensive
Pixel - expensive, awful battery, not top tier hardware
What does that leave? The Chinese ones?
Yea I'll stick with OnePlus
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There was a sony I saw a while back that actually looked really interesting. I forget what its called but it had a perfect 21:9 aspect ratio and looked kinda strange at first but as I watched reviews it became more and more appealing. But yea, the battery - not so great lol.

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There was a sony I saw a while back that actually looked really interesting. I forget what its called but it had a perfect 21:9 aspect ratio and looked kinda strange at first but as I watched reviews it became more and more appealing. But yea, the battery - not so great lol.
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Think I know the one, quite old though was £900 at the time. Didn't sell very well
There is something i like about Sony phones but so much to dislike

I also lost warp on my el-cheapo 6ft cable. Then again, that thing is so thin I doubt I even want it to run warp lol.
There's only one real competitor I see for the OP8 / Pro. The ROG Phone 3 / Strix. Similar price, amazing hardware and cooling, great battery, I don't really see a downside to it lol.

lol
how dare oneplus force me to use their cable, which came included with the phone, for warp charging, a feature that's exclusive to oneplus chargers....:crying: they're just like apple!
lol if you cry any harder i might think you're stormviper

I have an 8 foot red cable (don't recall if I got it from 1+) but I can fast charge. I originally had one of those interchangeable USB and tips but all it would do was maintain the current charge. Those interchangeable tips are very convenient when you have a house full of type c, micro USB, and Apple products. I don't know why they would invoke such a procedure as preventing use of alternate charging devices, but it is one of the things I have come to dislike about OnePlus. I don't know if I'd feel comfortable buying another one of their phones, even though in other ways they are superior. I do not like Samsung at all and I'm disappointed that the Pixel phones aren't keeping up.