I live in the US and really want to buy a new Mi Mix 2 but from what I've been reading I will have to flash it myself to the global ROM since all of these phones currently come with the Chinese version. Some questions for the experts:
(1) When is the global ROM coming out?
(2) All I really want is Google app store, Gmail, etc on my phone. If I install those then what are the benefits of flashing to global ROM?
(3) Will all apps in Google play store work with Chinese ROM?
(4) I am a total noob and have never flashed anything in my life. How difficult is this? Are there step-by-steps instructions for the Mi Mix 2? My biggest fear is bricking my phone and throwing away over $600 for something I didn't even get to use.
Thanks in advance for you advice and comments.
These are good questions
I wondering the same thing about question #1 so I can flash. Even with "english" set to mine there is still a lot of Chinese I'm running into. Just gonna wait for the global ROM.
I've just checked miui official site, and the latest both stable and developer version stock roms for Mix 2 have been released there. Simply download it and flash it through official flashing tool. Go check it! Hope can help you. I'm working on xposed for my mix 2 now
Is there a safe way to flash that without being unlocked. I am waiting for Xiaomi to allow me to unlock.
So to go from China to Global normally what you have to do is install from Fastboot, so Unlocked Bootloader is a must. There´s no news yet about Global ROM comingf out yet but I suspect that in a few weeks time it will be coming out, hopefully. Still no official news yet. With Chinese ROM you can install GApps through Mi store, there's an app which installs it, that should work for you. If you need help please let me know. Benefits from flashing GLOBAL is that GApps come preinstalled, theres not so much bloatware (MIUI CHINA has quite a lot, but you can still uninstall most of it easily, which I strongly suggest. Flashing an official rom isn't hard, but there's still people like me that can help you in the process for some cash and that can make sure that you don't mess up xd and make sure you understand what you are doing so you learn what you've done, at least that's my way of doing it
Re #1 its quite simple and i just did.
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Flash TWRP
3. Flash EU MIUI rom (based on chinese developer rom but comes with google)
4. Done
Did you wait 72 hours before you could unlock. I am waiting for that timer to get to 0, lol
raymondyipsp said:
Re #1 its quite simple and i just did.
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Flash TWRP
3. Flash EU MIUI rom (based on chinese developer rom but comes with google)
4. Done
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Where did you get this EU MIUI rom?
Here is the eu miui rom. Need to be unlocked and have twrp installed
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi.../files/xiaomi.eu/MIUI-WEEKLY-RELEASES/7.9.22/
stu5797 said:
Here is the eu miui rom. Need to be unlocked and have twrp installed
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi.../files/xiaomi.eu/MIUI-WEEKLY-RELEASES/7.9.22/
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There is a difference between your link and the rom from this one: http://en.miui.com/download-334.html
The link you have is for the Chinese rom and the Chinese developer rom.
My link is for the European EU Rom. EU ROM has Google Apps and no Chinese bloatware
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Did you wait 72 hours before you could unlock. I am waiting for that timer to get to 0, lol
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Yup, 72 hours waited
As i know taobao offers immediate unlock BL service, if you pay RMB$50
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stu5797 said:
The link you have is for the Chinese rom and the Chinese developer rom.
My link is for the European EU Rom. EU ROM has Google Apps and no Chinese bloatware
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EU MIUI is the best!
raymondyipsp said:
Yup, 72 hours waited
As i know taobao offers immediate unlock BL service, if you pay RMB$50
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EU MIUI is the best!
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Hey I've been waiting to purchase the phone until I know I will be able to install a fresh rom without all the bloatware. This EU MIUI you're talking about, could this be the infamous "Global Rom" that I've been hearing about?
Any screenshots of this EU MIUI that will show the lack of bloatware so I can compare?
stu5797 said:
Here is the eu miui rom. Need to be unlocked and have twrp installed
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi.../files/xiaomi.eu/MIUI-WEEKLY-RELEASES/7.9.22/
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looks like this one is an unofficial developer rom with MIUI9 right?
But there will be an official global rom from xiaomi?
Its official, dont worry about that.
Ideas4ya said:
Hey I've been waiting to purchase the phone until I know I will be able to install a fresh rom without all the bloatware. This EU MIUI you're talking about, could this be the infamous "Global Rom" that I've been hearing about?
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Not quite - they are two different things. The Global ROM usually refers to an official xiaomi ROM developed for outside China. It has Gapps built in and less Chinese software. If you go to en.miui.com and look at roms for various devices you will see many have both China and Global Roms. There isn't a global one yet for Mix 2.
The EU Roms are released by a team at xiaomi.eu and are based on xiaomi Roms but have some improvements, Gapps built in and many more languages.
Then in addition there are stable and developer options for each one.
I have always been satisfied with the EU Rom on previous xiaomi phones.
Hi guys! Any news on this? I need the global one with Google play
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Hi guys! Any news on this? I need the global one with Google play
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The India announcement is tomorrow. Hopefully the ROM should not be to far away.
Global rom out now!
The official Global rom for Mi Mix 2 is on the official website!
en.miui.com/download-334.html
I'm new to flashing and unlocking a Xiaomi device.
Can someone help get through the process step by step?
Things I already did:
Requested xiaomi to unlock my device. I will get an sms notification when it is approved.
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Because according to my online seller it does.
Question roughly translates to: Which ROM? If I encounter any issues can you help to claim the warranty (to China)?
He answered "Global ROM. Yes I can help"
But the question now is: does a global official stable ROM even exist for this phone? Isn't it China-only?
I bought the MI 5s Plus 64 GB in China a few days ago. I can confirm you there is no Global ROM yet. However, the stock Chinese ROM has English as language. You can also install Google Play Store and uninstall any bloatware default apps.
There is an Unofficial EU ROM if you wish to try.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/xiaomi-mi5s-plus.149/
I got the Mi5s (not plus) last week and it shipped with miui 8 global rom including pretty much any language not just english and chinese!
Please note that the MIUI rom could be manipulated by the guy who installed it. Currently there is no official global rom from Xiaomi for the 5s. All the currently sold ones with Global ROM are unpacked by the seller and reinstalled with some MIUI rom, which could be manipulated. Also OTA updates won't work with those mobiles
I'm also waiting for an official global rom, it's just not sure yet if there will be one.
I bought this phone with chinese rom and I was going to flash global rom as soon as it is released. but I'm not planning to change the rom anymore. I have debloated it myself and I'm happy with it at the moment.
I have to admit, I'm pretty disappointed. I honestly didn't realize I wouldn't be getting official MIUI.
Is there any particular way for me to see if there is any harmful backdoor software installed? So far this "global ROM (8.6.10.0)" seems solid enough, all functions seem to work except that when I go into the updater and try to choose an install package it tells me to install file explorer first....
I'm downloading the stable, official Chinese ROM right now... Not sure if I'll install it or not though...
dgrasley said:
I have to admit, I'm pretty disappointed. I honestly didn't realize I wouldn't be getting official MIUI.
Is there any particular way for me to see if there is any harmful backdoor software installed? So far this "global ROM (8.6.10.0)" seems solid enough, all functions seem to work except that when I go into the updater and try to choose an install package it tells me to install file explorer first....
I'm downloading the stable, official Chinese ROM right now... Not sure if I'll install it or not though...
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I got such a vendor "global" rom, tried to flash with official chinese zip, did not work -> verification problem.
unlocked bootloader, flashed twrp and xiaomi eu rom based on official chinesese developer rom..
Will wait for global rom as chinese rom is too much bloated..
If they launch it in india(hope so), global rom will exist, otherwise xiaomi eu forever...
[email protected] said:
I got such a vendor "global" rom, tried to flash with official chinese zip, did not work -> verification problem.
unlocked bootloader, flashed twrp and xiaomi eu rom based on official chinesese developer rom..
Will wait for global rom as chinese rom is too much bloated..
If they launch it in india(hope so), global rom will exist, otherwise xiaomi eu forever...
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So, you had success in unlocking BL and flashing twrp? Did you follow a guide? Do you have a link?
dgrasley said:
So, you had success in unlocking BL and flashing twrp? Did you follow a guide? Do you have a link?
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All good for me except fingerprint (may be due to plastic cover.. will try later after receiving my tempered glass)
I have an mi account which i used for unlocking..
You can create an account then use this link
http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Once they approve they will send a mail with link to download the unlocking software
You should install that, then run it and login in that..
You can unlock it there
install required tools- fastboot ... drivers.. (for me standard android sdk was sufficient...)
After installing those..
You should shutdown device completely then hold volume down and power button at same time to enter fastboot mode
Then connect mobile using cable to your pc
below command should list your device once connected...
fastboot devices
Download the twrp from link given here http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s/development/recovery-twrp-3-0-2-0-t3480133
make sure that its for proper device (mine is mi5s not plus)
if it a zip extract the img file.. then type command
fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
then to boot in to recovery
fastboot boot twrp.img
my twrp defaults to chinese so to change language refer video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOhR92EKD7A
download xiaomi eu for your device
from here https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-10-20.35693/
Then follow standard twrp flashing guidelines..
You can find it everywhere ( >>> Factory Reset >> Wipe select partitions >> install from internal memory if you already copied it there OR sideload using adb from pc)
PS: (I had formatted system partition as well without issues)
my back button was not working properly but after reboot it was ok..
Thank you very much [email protected] for the explanation.
I will try the procedure today evening when i'm home from work.
Update:
worked fine for me. Thank you very much!
Thanks for all the replies, but went ahead and bought the Note 4 instead. Camera is my only complaint against it, otherwise it's a really great first experience with Xiaomi!
Litronius said:
I bought the MI 5s Plus 64 GB in China a few days ago. I can confirm you there is no Global ROM yet. However, the stock Chinese ROM has English as language. You can also install Google Play Store and uninstall any bloatware default apps.
There is an Unofficial EU ROM if you wish to try.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/xiaomi-mi5s-plus.149/
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I just bought 5s 128 GB in Malaysia which is directly import (not from official dealer) with Stable Global ROM 8.0.10.0.0 (MAGCNDH) Build MXB48T as per attached. There is no bloatware and quite stable.
Can anyone confirm it is a real global ROM from Xiaomi or a modified ROM?
OneSU said:
I just bought 5s 128 GB in Malaysia which is directly import (not from official dealer) with Stable Global ROM 8.0.10.0.0 (MAGCNDH) Build MXB48T as per attached. There is no bloatware and quite stable.
Can anyone confirm it is a real global ROM from Xiaomi or a modified ROM?
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The additional 0 at the end of the MIUI version and the CN in the MAGCNDH shows that it is a chinese ROM which was manipulated.
So you won't be able to update it, and I at least could not unlock the bootloader because the xiaomi tool did not recognize it as a xiaomi phone....
So I built me a deep flash cable and flashed chinese official ROM, unlocked it and flashed TWRP and xiaomi.eu ROM....
derMerowinger said:
The additional 0 at the end of the MIUI version and the CN in the MAGCNDH shows that it is a chinese ROM which was manipulated.
So you won't be able to update it, and I at least could not unlock the bootloader because the xiaomi tool did not recognize it as a xiaomi phone....
So I built me a deep flash cable and flashed chinese official ROM, unlocked it and flashed TWRP and xiaomi.eu ROM....
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Any Guide for that? Or a video guide?
Check this here, source: http://en.miui.com/thread-390697-1-1.html
Here is what I did to get an official ROM instead of the malware infected 8.6.10.0:
At first I have to mention that using the EDL Method is very dangerous because you will probably brick your phone if it goes wrong.
If you are not sure about something better ask here before doing anything wrong. The phone should have a full battery and save all your files because the phone will be wiped during the proccess.
Step 1. Download the latest official MIUI Fastboot ROM for Mi 5s:
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V8.0.10.0....AGCNDH_20160805.0000.29_6.0_cn_49ab3a5120.tgz
(!!! Important - When flashing the ROM with the Xiaomi FlashTool in the step 3. you have browse into the /images Folder. - Browsing into the wrong folder and flashing wrong files will probably brick your phone !!!)
Step 2. Turn your phone into EDL Mode:
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-put-mi-5-into-edl-mode/
(Use Option #1 - Option #2 and #3 does not work)
Step 3. Use this Tutorial to flash the Fastboot ROM to your device. Use Method #3 , as Method #1 and #2 does not work anyway with the fake ROM 8.6.10.0.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-8-fastboot-and-recovery-rom/
( Skip Step 4,5,6 because your phone is already in the EDL Mode)
This helped me out go get the official Chinese ROM 8.0.10.0. Out of this ROM you can use the MIUI Updater function in the phone to install any other official ROM for the Mi 5s.
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There will never be a global ROM for this phone.
It's a China only device.
I still have a little hope that they might start to sell it in India, which typically means there will be a global rom. But so far nothing is announced, so at the moment there is no hope for an official and signed global rom.
patoberli said:
I still have a little hope that they might start to sell it in India, which typically means there will be a global rom. But so far nothing is announced, so at the moment there is no hope for an official and signed global rom.
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Xiaomi announced that they will not sell it in India.
When Hugo Barra says it wont be sold in India, then it wont be sold in India.
Read this, there the source is linked.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s/help/answer-global-miui-release-date-t3495372
Thanks for finding this, sad news
Miui global (custom rom) or NFC Payment, Pokemon Go, .... though decision.
OneSU said:
I just bought 5s 128 GB in Malaysia which is directly import (not from official dealer) with Stable Global ROM 8.0.10.0.0 (MAGCNDH) Build MXB48T as per attached. There is no bloatware and quite stable.
Can anyone confirm it is a real global ROM from Xiaomi or a modified ROM?
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My Mi 5s has the same ROM and it works flawlessly. Benchmark results are far ahead compering to those from reviews on YouTube. I was able to unlock bootloader in first try, no problem. If you use Windows 10 make sure to load proper drivers. I don't believe that any reseller is able to compile such perfectly working ROM. It must be Xiaomi that stay behind this, but this is what I believe. As you sad all languages are there and even some you don't find in official global ROM. I will keep this one until official global I released. Be patient.
I'm new here and I'm confused about the official global rom for the xiaomi mi max 3. I got 2 questions:
1) Is there an official global rom for it?
2) Where can I buy a legit xiaomi mii max 3 phone WITH OFFICIAL rom already installed from?
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deloj said:
1) Is there an official global rom for it?
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Yes, the recovery version of global stable is available for download. If you have a chinese variant phone without TWRP recovery, you need the fastboot version of the ROM to flash it but it's not available for download right now.
deloj said:
2) Where can I buy a legit xiaomi mii max 3 phone WITH OFFICIAL rom already installed from?
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If you live in Europe you can buy the official global version from the European warehouse of honorbuy.
https://www.honorbuy.com/257-xiaomi-mi-max-3-global-version
panospc said:
Yes, the recovery version of global stable is available for download. If you have a chinese variant phone without TWRP recovery, you need the fastboot version of the ROM to flash it but it's not available for download right now.
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I live in USA. I want the US-english version of this phone. That said, where can I buy it with the fastboot version to be able to install TWRP and root it?
I am confused with anything MIUI... ROM versions, MIUI versions, Android versions... They must be choosing those numbers randomly from a bowl with balls like a lottery.
panospc said:
Yes, the recovery version of global stable is available for download. If you have a chinese variant phone without TWRP recovery, you need the fastboot version of the ROM to flash it but it's not available for download right now.
If you live in Europe you can buy the official global version from the European warehouse of honorbuy.
https://www.honorbuy.com/257-xiaomi-mi-max-3-global-version
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isnt that xiaomi.eu version? not global c
version
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deloj said:
I live in USA. I want the US-english version of this phone. That said, where can I buy it with the fastboot version to be able to install TWRP and root it?
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if u want global version, u need to wait few more days. if u planning to root it, just go for chinese version from ali or shenzhengtrading ask for chinese original version.
ryanllts said:
if u want global version, u need to wait few more days. if u planning to root it, just go for chinese version from ali or shenzhengtrading ask for chinese original version.
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Hi ryanllts,
Yes I want the global rom. But are you saying I cannot root the global rom? That the only way to root is through the chinese rom?
Hi guys,
Could you guys suggest to me a website that sells the xiaomi mi max 3 with EU rom? Or is it possible to buy a global rom and flash it with EU rom?
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The rom from xiaomi.eu is not an official firmware, it's a custom rom based on China rom with some tweaks. You can flash it on both China and Global device.
mierlo420 said:
The rom from xiaomi.eu is not an official firmware, it's a custom rom based on China rom with some tweaks. You can flash it on both China and Global device.
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I'm a bit confused. I just want to buy it so I can root and nandroid it if possible. So you suggest that I buy the global version then flash it with official EU rom? I'm confused.
before Global rom released tradingshenzhen used to have option whether you want your phone shipped with china rom or EU rom.
but ever since official global rom released, they only ship with global rom option.
you can just buy any phone with global rom and flash it with EU rom.
this required unlock bootloader wait time varies from hours to days.
there are guides about this everywhere.
pakudaboy said:
before Global rom released tradingshenzhen used to have option whether you want your phone shipped with china rom or EU rom.
but ever since official global rom released, they only ship with global rom option.
you can just buy any phone with global rom and flash it with EU rom.
this required unlock bootloader wait time varies from hours to days.
there are guides about this everywhere.
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Hi pakudaboy. So I can buy any phone with global rom and flash it with EU rom like you said. But you also said the bootloader can take hours or days to unlock if I flash with EU rom? Is this accurate? How is that possible?
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Hi pakudaboy. So I can buy any phone with global rom and flash it with EU rom like you said. But you also said the bootloader can take hours or days to unlock if I flash with EU rom? Is this accurate? How is that possible?
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hi there,
sorry for the late reply.
yes you can flash EU rom over global rom version once you unlocked your bootloader.
unlocking bootloader for xiaomi depends on your xiaomi account. if you never use that account to unlock before then it might take days of wait time to get verified. in my opinion it's all worth it. since Max 3 is a good phone in all specs (yes including camera with google camera moded)
just fyi, EU rom is based on china dev rom. and it has been stable for pretty much all users.
pakudaboy said:
hi there,
sorry for the late reply.
yes you can flash EU rom over global rom version once you unlocked your bootloader.
unlocking bootloader for xiaomi depends on your xiaomi account. if you never use that account to unlock before then it might take days of wait time to get verified. in my opinion it's all worth it. since Max 3 is a good phone in all specs (yes including camera with google camera moded)
just fyi, EU rom is based on china dev rom. and it has been stable for pretty much all users.
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Hi pakudaboy,
I've seen mi max 3 global version from ebay and Aliexpress. Is it ok to buy the global version from these places? Below are just 2 links from Aliexpress. Let me know what you think....
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mult...a-7be8d4938daa
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...a-7be8d4938daa
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Hi pakudaboy,
I've seen mi max 3 global version from ebay and Aliexpress. Is it ok to buy the global version from these places? Below are just 2 links from Aliexpress. Let me know what you think....
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mult...a-7be8d4938daa
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...a-7be8d4938daa
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hi there,
sorry i can't see those pages. seems like it's in your shopping kart?
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hi there,
sorry i can't see those pages. seems like it's in your shopping kart?
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Hi pakudaboy,
Very sorry about that. Here you go:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Glo...lgo_pvid=021f9edf-48fd-434d-8f08-aaf4c3d95c5b
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...lgo_pvid=021f9edf-48fd-434d-8f08-aaf4c3d95c5b
I wouldn't buy from those shops if you want a global device.
When you look in the reviews you see Chinese devices on all photos.
But if you are flashing EU rom is doesn't matter if you have global or Chinese device, hardware is the same, only the charger is different.
Edit:
At the moment Banggood is the cheapest:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-max-3
They sell official Global devices. And when you choose priority direct mail you don't have extra import costs.
mierlo420 said:
I wouldn't buy from those shops if you want a global device.
When you look in the reviews you see Chinese devices on all photos.
But if you are flashing EU rom is doesn't matter if you have global or Chinese device, hardware is the same, only the charger is different.
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At the moment Banggood is the cheapest:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-max-3
They sell official Global devices. And when you choose priority direct mail you don't have extra import costs.
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Its all good. Appreciate it
Hello everyone,
I have got a mountain of questions that arised from reading the forum and a lot of different topics.
I'll have numbers on them, so if you can/want to only answer a few of them you can refer to the number.
1. I've read about this ARB quite a lot, what's the deal with that if I want to go to a custom rom?
2. I understood that it matters where to buy the device in terms of an unlocked bootloader (TradingShenzen seems like a good place to start). But if I can't get my hands on a phone with unlocked bootloader, can I unlock it myself?
3. I'd like to go with the xiaomi.eu rom, any advice on how to get there? What I mean is, should I choose a CN model or is a Global model better, does it matter? What steps to take regarding TWRP and avoiding ARB, etc.
4. What does GSI stand for? I haven't found any thread explaining what that means, and I'm quite new to xiaomi devices (would be my first one).
5. I've also seen that there are quite a few different variants of this device, do the roms for it just work on all of them or do I need to check if the model is supported? (That seems to be a bit different to other phone vendors)
That's it for now, please don't kill me if some of the things have been answered before, I haven't found an answer to the questions so far (the infos that I got so far were insufficient)
Cheers,
Zacki
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
Bartos81 said:
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
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Thanks for your reply.
@1. Interesting to see what Google is up to with things like this...why would they want this?
@2. Thanks, but whoa that's quite some time...and I guess I can only trigger the 300h AFTER I bought the phone, right? (Why so many hours actually...?)
@3. I've read about the changes they made to the rom and I like that. But what do you mean with being "less stable" than the global rom? In what way? I'd like to use that as my daily driver if I get it (not the weekly builds of course).
@4. Will have a look, thanks :good:
@5. I was actually looking at the 6GB/128GB version of the phone, if I can convince my wife to allow me to spend ~260€ on a phone (I'm currently a student ).
In this case, I'd already have an unlocked bootloader and if I want to install the rom from xiaomi.eu, there should be no problem, right? Also regarding ARB, this should be fine, right?
And in what ways are the CN and the Global versions different other than the rom? Are there differences for the supported bands or radios? I live in Austria, can I use the CN model here without any downside?
Edit: I'm having a look at this particular model, it would be available with CN firmware or with Global firmware. Would that still account as CN model in this case?
TradingShenzhen - Mi Max 3 - 6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636
Cheers
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
Bartos81 said:
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
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Ok got that, seems like people are trying everything to make a few bucks extra... Then it would have to be so (waiting).
Bartos81 said:
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
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Ok that's not such a big issue, as I said. I'd stay on the "stable" builds, not the weekly ones.
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If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
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So the xiaomi.eu roms don't have any of that ARB stuff, good to know. Could I technically install an older version of that custom rom without triggering the ARB or is that not possible? Just so I understand that.
And how is that with other custom roms? I've read in some threads that you have to make sure you have the correct ARB if you want to flash that particular rom, why that?
Bartos81 said:
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
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I'm not worried about the warranty but more about the specifics of the device. Is the CN model different in any way that it may not work properly with the providers in europe? Or things like that?
And sadly that vendor does not seem to have that version in stock at the moment, so I was thinking of getting the regular CN version of the device, that's why I'm asking
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
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So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
Bartos81 said:
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
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Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
Bartos81 said:
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
Oh and by the way, thank you for answering all my questions
So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
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it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while.
Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
Bartos81 said:
it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
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Ok sounds good, so if I want to go for the xiaomi.eu rom, I can just go ahead an flash that thing and I'm good, that's what I understood. Is that correct?
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Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while..
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Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
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I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
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Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Using dev to unlock the bootloader affected old phones. Currently, it does not matter. Rom useful as well as Stable.
I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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Miflash is used to install only official miui Rom, you use the rom .Tgz package
It installs through Miflash with the cleaning option. It does not leave garbage in the old system.
Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
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If you have xiaomi.eu then china rom does not matter.
You can look for a seller who offers a phone with downloaded xiaomi.eu or miui global - to choose from
in the past, the sellers offered the china version.
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If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
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So last question for now (I hope ), if I decide to get the EU version instead, can I still unlock the bootloader or is that only possible on the CN versions?
you can in any xiaomi
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You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
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I've just read in another thread that it is 720 hours that's full 30 days... I hope it's more the 300 hours you said but I fear I might have to wait a full month for that...
Can anyone confirm this number of hours?
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Usually it is 720 hours, but I checked it every now and then, after 4 days, this time has decreased by half.
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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That is an interesting note. I created an account a few days ago, when I ordered the phone. Does this already count as "having an account before trying to unlock"?
How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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I actually hope someone answers this question because this phone is very different than any other phone I have and it's hard figuring out the best way to do things on it.
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How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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The best way is to flash the stock with miflash. (Remember to select the checkbox at the bottom right on clean-all, do not flash with clean and lock otherwise lock the bootloader. To some he sent the phone in brick just this forgetfulness) I strongly advise against using twrp to flash the stock!
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The best way is to flash the stock with miflash. (Remember to select the checkbox at the bottom right on clean-all, do not flash with clean and lock otherwise lock the bootloader. To some he sent the phone in brick just this forgetfulness) I strongly advise against using twrp to flash the stock!
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I thought most people or everyone really liked Xiaomi EU over stock rom. I thought EU was a cleaned up verison of stock rom basically. Does it have Google play services?
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I thought most people or everyone really liked Xiaomi EU over stock rom. I thought EU was a cleaned up verison of stock rom basically. Does it have Google play services?
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I am using xiaomi.eu at the moment.
So, xiaomi.eu is a custom rom that takes Chinese stock as a basis and adapts it to global use, like adding Google services, translations for many languages and removing all Chinese apps. I prefer it to the global stock because being based on the chinese stock it has the fastest updates and functions that xiaomi puts only in the chinese rom. Also because the global roms is developed by poco So not directly from xiaomi and it is not said that they include all the features that xiaomi includes on the Chinese stock.
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I am using xiaomi.eu at the moment.
So, xiaomi.eu is a custom rom that takes Chinese stock as a basis and adapts it to global use, like adding Google services, translations for many languages and removing all Chinese apps. I prefer it to the global stock because being based on the chinese stock it has the fastest updates and functions that xiaomi puts only in the chinese rom. Also because the global roms is developed by poco So not directly from xiaomi and it is not said that they include all the features that xiaomi includes on the Chinese stock.
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Right now I'm crdroid 7.11 android 11 with twrp installed. When looking at the rom files for EU I've noticed that they have some versions that look like this xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_21.10.27_v12-12-fastboot.zip and than ones that look like this
xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_V12.5.14.0.RKHCNXM_v12-11.zip
What's the difference? And if I wanted to flash EU with Twrp from crdroid could I? Could I also just flash back to crdroid if I wanted to also? Thanks
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Right now I'm crdroid 7.11 android 11 with twrp installed. When looking at the rom files for EU I've noticed that they have some versions that look like this xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_21.10.27_v12-12-fastboot.zip and than ones that look like this
xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_V12.5.14.0.RKHCNXM_v12-11.zip
What's the difference? And if I wanted to flash EU with Twrp from crdroid could I? Could I also just flash back to crdroid if I wanted to also? Thanks
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The first is Android 12 weekly beta and can only be flashed via fastboot with the appropriate file that is inside the package.
The high is stable android 11 and can only be flashed via twrp.
I don't know if it works if the flashi from crdroid, I have not tried, it might or might not, at most if it doesn't work you install the stock with miflash and the flashi from there ...
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The first is Android 12 weekly beta and can only be flashed via fastboot with the appropriate file that is inside the package.
The high is stable android 11 and can only be flashed via twrp.
I don't know if it works if the flashi from crdroid, I have not tried, it might or might not, at most if it doesn't work you install the stock with miflash and the flashi from there ...
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Thank you, you have been much help I've been reading through threads and telegram for days now looking for the answers but couldn't find them. This phone is so popular things become cluttered and hard to find. I don't think I have ever seen a phone with as much development and that's surprising when I have a Nexus 6.
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How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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YES
But bootloader will remain unlocked.
If you want it locked, like virgin phone, you must use a called fastboot rom via MIFLASH tool.
Select the right rom version at XIAOMI ROm download site.
Flash it first without locking, boot your phone (you don't have to configure it, even you shouldn't because of incoming reset), and if all is good, flash it once again with locking bootloader.