Looking for some advice on a Nexus 7 (2013) - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I recently picked up a Nexus 7 through Amazon new (yes you can still get BNIB ones). It's a great little tablet. I use it purely as an E-Reader with Moon Reader Pro plus some light web browsing.
The tablet works like a charm on Android 6.0.1. However, one big issue. If the device runs out of battery or I restart it, it gets stuck in an endless reboot cycle. I have done partition recovery a couple of times and again it works perfectly (for over a month) until it ran out of battery while travelling. Back to the endless reboot cycle.
It doesn't seem like a hardware issue, it runs flawlessly with several hours of use a day but I simply can't keep a device that becomes unusable without a reformat every time the battery runs out.
So on to my question, I am aware of rooting but have zero experience with it. I know there are certain risks but at this point it's either find a solution or stop using the device.
Can someone recommend a very very simple rooting process that will give me a stable tablet? I am fine with Android 6.0.1 on the device, I simply need something stable and if it has added benefits of running cleaner and letting me remove additional bloatware that would be great, given it only has 16GB of storage.
So any simple advice would be appreciated.
Thanks

Before you to jump in, you should do as much research as possible.
Check out this thread from the Q&A subforum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380721
The how-to link that you want is in the first item in the faq. (i.e. how to unlock/root/install recovery).
The nexus line of devices are the easiest to unlock and root. But there is still some risks involved, it pays to be well informed.

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[Q] AT&T P-930 slow since ICS

Since I did the ICS update via the LG software updater my phone operates extremely slow(screen refresh, typing entry delay, etc...) and battery life is significantly lower. I do see other threads about different software versions and don't really know what a lot of it means. I also see advice on doing a factory reset after upgrading, but is this really necessary with the stock update? It's my understanding that my phone should scream because of the processor that it has. should I go back to GB or is there something I can do to make it a fast, powerful device?
Mine is 4.0.4 Android version and LG -P930-v20c-JUN-25-2012 is the software version.
Thanks in advance
Factory reset will probably solve all the problems you're having.
And the processor in this device is not a "screamer", it was about a year ago, but not any more unfortunately. It performs worse than the galaxy s 2 in most cases, mostly due to the added resolution of the screen.
That being said, I still quite like this phone, and running CM10 on it has me very happy. Once they sort the black screen of death issue (which is apparently present on many devices) it'll definitely keep me happy till I can afford a new phone (Or maybe christmas)
If you follow the steps posted here to root your phone (you'll have to unbrick it, follow the guide), and install CM9 on it, I'm sure you'll be far more impressed with your phone. The LG software sucks many dicks in my opinion, CM9 is WAY better.
hereric said:
Factory reset will probably solve all the problems you're having.
And the processor in this device is not a "screamer", it was about a year ago, but not any more unfortunately. It performs worse than the galaxy s 2 in most cases, mostly due to the added resolution of the screen.
That being said, I still quite like this phone, and running CM10 on it has me very happy. Once they sort the black screen of death issue (which is apparently present on many devices) it'll definitely keep me happy till I can afford a new phone (Or maybe christmas)
If you follow the steps posted here to root your phone (you'll have to unbrick it, follow the guide), and install CM9 on it, I'm sure you'll be far more impressed with your phone. The LG software sucks many dicks in my opinion, CM9 is WAY better.
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Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me what CM9 is? i will definitely try it.
thanks again
Try factory resetting first. Yes, you have to reconfigure almost everything. But you'd have to do that anyway if you try CM9. A lot of people say that the ICS update is good after you do a factory reset, so you may like it just fine.
CM9 is Cyanogenmod9, which is a custom ROM that can be installed on this phone. But it's not the easiest process for beginners.
When you factory reset, you'll lose things like text message history and contacts (unless contacts are synced to Google, then they'll reappear after you log back in after factory resetting -- or on your SIM card).
Thanks for the info on the ROM. I'll look for a link to instructions and try it when I can afford to be without it in the event of a failure. I am technical...just not with phones.
Thanks drumist
update...reset made a significant difference in the speed. keyboard & screens work great now. still have an issue with battery though; but that seems to be standard on ics.
thanks!
MichaelWayne_71 said:
update...reset made a significant difference in the speed. keyboard & screens work great now. still have an issue with battery though; but that seems to be standard on ics.
thanks!
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It takes a while after a fresh install of this rom for the battery life to settle in. After about a week the battery life improves significantly
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Looking at the A100

Hey everyone!
I've been looking at the A100 lately, as I have the ability to obtain one (new) for $75 and change (after a credit with the store). However, after reading this thread a bit, I'm concerned about the emmc issue.
Has Acer released any updated models that don't have this issue, do they all have this issue (at some point)? It's the only reason I would avoid it and look at different models. Is there an assembly date to watch for? lol I'd like to get one, but would rather avoid an issue like this, as I enjoy modding devices and don't want to run into warranty issues trying to have faulty tech replaced.
Any help/clarification would be greatly appreciated!
heX79 said:
Hey everyone!
I've been looking at the A100 lately, as I have the ability to obtain one (new) for $75 and change (after a credit with the store). However, after reading this thread a bit, I'm concerned about the emmc issue.
Has Acer released any updated models that don't have this issue, do they all have this issue (at some point)? It's the only reason I would avoid it and look at different models. Is there an assembly date to watch for? lol I'd like to get one, but would rather avoid an issue like this, as I enjoy modding devices and don't want to run into warranty issues trying to have faulty tech replaced.
Any help/clarification would be greatly appreciated!
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As far as we can tell they all have the same run of emmc memory, so in theory are all prone to it. Some protection can be found in the godmachine kernels and recovery, though. Mine hasn't bricked a second time since using a modified version of his kernels.
pio_masaki said:
As far as we can tell they all have the same run of emmc memory, so in theory are all prone to it. Some protection can be found in the godmachine kernels and recovery, though. Mine hasn't bricked a second time since using a modified version of his kernels.
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Thanks for the quick response! I've done some searching but can't seem to find any info on godmachine's recovery (unless I mistakenly overlooked it)? I can find his kernel (v2.0) and it appears to be installed via TWRP (which is fine).
This leaves me to assume that after unlocking the bootloader via the A200 replacement, I should just install TWRP, then flash godmachines kernel? (all this of course, after doing the ICS upgrade out of the box).
This is what I told a friend of mine who was thinking of getting one:
Depending on how much credit you are using, I would not spend more than $120 total for an A100 with all the new 7" tablets coming out with xmas and black friday on the way. I highly doubt you will get any more updates from acer with the new tablets they are releasing.
Pro:
Tegra2 chipset is great. ICS/JB runs really well. HDMI out works so this tablet acts as my portable media player (netflix, hulu, streaming from nas) to keep the kids busy. Games run well.
Con:
Emmc issue, bad viewing angle (even if it is only one really bad angle, the others are not so great either), low resolution, SOD, bad battery time (at least it charges really fast though), and worst of all, the touch screen issues. There are just some spots on the tablet that it takes 3-4 tries to work. build.prop also needs to be changed to show A500 for some games to be available.
As for development here on xda (with respect to pio_masaki and his private works) its safe to say that its pretty much dead. Good news is that the CM10 we have works almost flawlessly and Flexreaper rom is as solid as it gets.
Thanks for the feedback. I think, for now, I'll wait till the holidays arrive and see if other models come down in price. The Tegra 2 and dual core seemed a pretty decent combo for the price. The emmc issue is a complete turn-off, and was an absolute downer to read! But there is some possible hope for that with godmachines kernel.
I haven't read into it enough to have discovered the touch screen issues you mentioned, that is also going in the turn-off section.
Maybe I'll see what happens price wise with the Nexus 7 in December.
Thanks for the quick replies and helpful info! I'm still tempted, but will hold off on a purchase for now.
heX79 said:
Thanks for the quick response! I've done some searching but can't seem to find any info on godmachine's recovery (unless I mistakenly overlooked it)? I can find his kernel (v2.0) and it appears to be installed via TWRP (which is fine).
This leaves me to assume that after unlocking the bootloader via the A200 replacement, I should just install TWRP, then flash godmachines kernel? (all this of course, after doing the ICS upgrade out of the box).
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I let all the OTA ICS updates install, then rooted, then unlocked the bootloader, then installed TWRP, I then
used TWRP to install CM10, Jelly Bean optimized Kernel for A100, and pio_masaki's Gapps all at the same time,
I hope the "disabled MMC_CAP_ERASE function" does the job. :fingers-crossed:

[Q]Planning to buy a Kindle Fire HD 8.9'

Hi All,
I'm from India and I'm planning to get a Kindle Fire HD 8.9' tablet. A friend will be getting it over as he's coming down. I'm an advanced android user with a couple of android devices and i've got experience in rooting, installing custom roms etc.I have a few doubts regarding the tablet. This tablet will be mainly used by mom, and i plan to make it as user friendly as possible.
I've gone through the FAQs, but i'm still a little confused.
1)I've read a lot about the 2nd Gen KF HD, will this affect me a lot? Is there a high possiblity of me getting the 2nd gen if i order it from amazon?
2)Since warranty is out of question, is the build quality good? I can manage with software glitches as there will be better custom roms addressing the issues, i want to know how sturdy it is.
3)Since there is no google play, i plan to remove the whole amazon eco-zone, as it's technically of no use here in india. So I've seen some CM 10 roms, although i'm not sure if they apply to the 2nd GEN.
4) Should i buy the ad supported one and then use the KindleFree Pro app? Or will the custom roms remove the ads by themselves. I'm asking this because 15$ makes quite a lot of difference.
I do have some more questions which I'll ask later on as they come up.
Regards,
CD
1) You will certainly get a 2nd generation Kindle Fire if you order it directly from Amazon, but if you plan on getting an HD8.9, it will be 2nd generation regardless of where you get it.
2) Google search "Kindle Fire drop test", "Kindle Fire stress test" or something similar and you will find plenty of reviews and videos showing how solid and sturdy the tablet is. I'm sure you will find that it meets or exceeds your expectations.
3) Development is still in it's earliest stages. There are CM10 or JB based Android ROMs for both the KF2 and the HD8.9, and are very solid with a few minor bugs that are still getting worked out on the kernel level. The Google Play store can be installed to a rooted stock device rather easily, so if the bugs involved with the custom ROMs is too much of a problem, there is no real reason to instal one unless you absolutely hate the stock UI.
4) The lockscreen ads are specific to the stock Kindle Fire firmware and never on any custom ROMs, but they can be easily be removed on a rooted stock device
soupmagnet said:
1) You will certainly get a 2nd generation Kindle Fire if you order it directly from Amazon, but if you plan on getting an HD8.9, it will be 2nd generation regardless of where you get it.
2) Google search "Kindle Fire drop test", "Kindle Fire stress test" or something similar and you will find plenty of reviews and videos showing how solid and sturdy the tablet is. I'm sure you will find that it meets or exceeds your expectations.
3) Development is still in it's earliest stages. There are CM10 or JB based Android ROMs for both the KF2 and the HD8.9, and are very solid with a few minor bugs that are still getting worked out on the kernel level. The Google Play store can be installed to a rooted stock device rather easily, so if the bugs involved with the custom ROMs is too much of a problem, there is no real reason to instal one unless you absolutely hate the stock UI.
4) The lockscreen ads are specific to the stock Kindle Fire firmware and never on any custom ROMs, but they can be easily be removed on a rooted stock device
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Thank you very much.
So I'll go ahead and purchase it
CosmicDance said:
Thank you very much.
So I'll go ahead and purchase it
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Enjoy. Whilst we wait for fully functional CM10 ROMs (i need bluetooth) , the screen should be well enough to win you over - it is fantastic.
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I've ordered the Kindle Fire HD 8.9", fingers crossed as there isn't any warranty or service centres in my country.
CosmicDance said:
I've ordered the Kindle Fire HD 8.9", fingers crossed as there isn't any warranty or service centres in my country.
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live in argentina, they sent me a new one and i sent the not working one, you could pay nothing or only some dollars, a bit. where do you live
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persano said:
live in argentina, they sent me a new one and i sent the not working one, you could pay nothing or only some dollars, a bit. where do you live
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I'm from India
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Sold
soupmagnet said:
1) You will certainly get a 2nd generation Kindle Fire if you order it directly from Amazon, but if you plan on getting an HD8.9, it will be 2nd generation regardless of where you get it.
2) Google search "Kindle Fire drop test", "Kindle Fire stress test" or something similar and you will find plenty of reviews and videos showing how solid and sturdy the tablet is. I'm sure you will find that it meets or exceeds your expectations.
3) Development is still in it's earliest stages. There are CM10 or JB based Android ROMs for both the KF2 and the HD8.9, and are very solid with a few minor bugs that are still getting worked out on the kernel level. The Google Play store can be installed to a rooted stock device rather easily, so if the bugs involved with the custom ROMs is too much of a problem, there is no real reason to instal one unless you absolutely hate the stock UI.
4) The lockscreen ads are specific to the stock Kindle Fire firmware and never on any custom ROMs, but they can be easily be removed on a rooted stock device
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Now I'm sold. Must be best bang for buck
chindtown said:
Now I'm sold. Must be best bang for buck
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Certainly best screen for buck!
Hi All,
I didn't want to start a new thread, so i felt I'll post here...
I received the KFHD 8.9" today, and i started it and first thing i noticed is that i have to register it with the amazon account, without that i couldn't use the tab like a normal android device with an app drawer. I have a few questions as a first time user of a kindle:
1) I couldn't find a way to skip the registration part, is it possible to skip it?
2) If i have to register my device with amazon, will it auto update to the latest firmware? Currently i can see the device version as v8.3.user_XXXXX is this 8.3.0 or 8.3.1?
3) Initially i want to just root the device and disable the OTA updates. I assume @soupmagnet's SoupKit will do this.(Although it's gonna be interesting as i've not used linux before)
Hope i made my doubts clear.
Regards,
CD
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I didn't want to start a new thread, so i felt I'll post here...
I received the KFHD 8.9" today, and i started it and first thing i noticed is that i have to register it with the amazon account, without that i couldn't use the tab like a normal android device with an app drawer. I have a few questions as a first time user of a kindle:
1) I couldn't find a way to skip the registration part, is it possible to skip it?
2) If i have to register my device with amazon, will it auto update to the latest firmware? Currently i can see the device version as v8.3.user_XXXXX is this 8.3.0 or 8.3.1?
3) Initially i want to just root the device and disable the OTA updates. I assume @soupmagnet's SoupKit will do this.(Although it's gonna be interesting as i've not used linux before)
Hope i made my doubts clear.
Regards,
CD
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I was in your position a few months ago. I got the tablet because of the price. They were offering it to students for $250...which was the same price as two of my books. I then found out that I couldn't even use my own e-reader. It's such a power device, but it has a terrible UI and they give you next to no control over it.
You really have no choice but to root it. After you root it, please make sure that OTAs are disabled. I spent hours trying to get my kindle back to how it was after getting caught by an OTA. A few months ago, KFfirstaid was by far the easiest root tool, but I'm not sure if it's still supported.
Once you root, you can install google play and a new launcher. That should suffice for most users.
If you want, you can install hashcode's second bootloader/TWRP . It's not that hard to follow his directions, but it's more difficult than rooting. Then you can install custom roms, but most of them are still in trial phase.
URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128175"]Hashcode's instructions[/URL]
It's well worth it to root it, but it might be more difficult to deal with than you're used to.
Hi all. I am also planning to buy one of these to use as a regular tablet. Couldn't care less about the Amazon stuff, to be honest. I'm just interested in the bigger, higher resolution screen compared to the Nexus 7.
So is it safe to assume that, once you root, disable OTA updates, install Google Apps and a new app drawer (ADW, GoLauncher, etc) this would act like any other Android device? Or are there any other quirks to take into account?
Sorry to highjack the thread, but I felt there was some common ground here
anacondo said:
Hi all. I am also planning to buy one of these to use as a regular tablet. Couldn't care less about the Amazon stuff, to be honest. I'm just interested in the bigger, higher resolution screen compared to the Nexus 7.
So is it safe to assume that, once you root, disable OTA updates, install Google Apps and a new app drawer (ADW, GoLauncher, etc) this would act like any other Android device? Or are there any other quirks to take into account?
Sorry to highjack the thread, but I felt there was some common ground here
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Yes but I would install the CM10 ROM - the amazon stock Rom is slower and has lots of unnecessary bloat (if you do not need those features, which most do not).
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apd said:
Yes but I would install the CM10 ROM - the amazon stock Rom is slower and has lots of unnecessary bloat (if you do not need those features, which most do not).
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Thanks, but no thanks. At least not until a stable version is released.
I plan to use the stock OS and change the UI experience by using a different drawer, add some of my favorite apps and maybe even remove some of the Amazon garbage if i'm feeling adventurous, all without compromising stability, to use it as a general android tab. I was just wondering whether this would be possible, or if there's something I'm missing.
I'd like to know now, before I shell out the 300€
anacondo said:
Thanks, but no thanks. At least not until a stable version is released.
I plan to use the stock OS and change the UI experience by using a different drawer, add some of my favorite apps and maybe even remove some of the Amazon garbage if i'm feeling adventurous, all without compromising stability, to use it as a general android tab. I was just wondering whether this would be possible, or if there's something I'm missing.
I'd like to know now, before I shell out the 300€
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It's possible. You'll need to root it. You'll find it works fine (but not particularly responsively) with stock OS and a separate launcher. If you're rooting anyway and want rid of the amazon cr!p, why not install a decent ROM? it is, of course, your choice and Hashcode's CM10 has some minor issues but I use it very happily as a daily driver.
There's no recent apps button in stock but there are ways around that in the forums.
Good luck!
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apd said:
It's possible. You'll need to root it. You'll find it works fine (but not particularly responsively) with stock OS and a separate launcher. If you're rooting anyway and want rid of the amazon cr!p, why not install a decent ROM? it is, of course, your choice and Hashcode's CM10 has some minor issues but I use it very happily as a daily driver.
There's no recent apps button in stock but there are ways around that in the forums.
Good luck!
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Because i won't be the only person using it and i'd rather have a stable product that works just fine than the latest, bleeding edge in performance. Also, i'm a bit worried about voiding the warranty, so i'd rather not go too deep until things are more certain (proper roms, 100% support for all functionalities, etc).
How bad is responsiveness, though? This is the first time i hear of this, and the last thing i want is a laggy device. Are there any tests or reviews out there, with hard numbers?
Thanks!
anacondo said:
Because i won't be the only person using it and i'd rather have a stable product that works just fine than the latest, bleeding edge in performance. Also, i'm a bit worried about voiding the warranty, so i'd rather not go too deep until things are more certain (proper roms, 100% support for all functionalities, etc).
How bad is responsiveness, though? This is the first time i hear of this, and the last thing i want is a laggy device. Are there any tests or reviews out there, with hard numbers?
Thanks!
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Let's take this step by step. To install Google play and the launcher properly you will need root. You will also need root to remove amazon crap because some of it is system crap. As with all devices, that probably voids your warranty unless you return it to stock before getting a repair done (ie so they don't find out). So I'm not sure I see the logic of the warranty issue. If you read all the rooting threads, you will gain root first time and won't have any issues.
As for responsiveness with a third party launcher on top of stock, it is still responsive and usable, but less responsive. You will also have two launchers installed because the pure Amazon apps (eg kindle) are only accessible through the Amazon launcher if you are still on stock. There are no 'hard numbers' as each person's set up will be different and, also, the benchmarks are really quite useless.
Your starting point was to use the kfhd as a regular android tablet with the stock ROM. It will act like an android tablet but one with some quirks based on the stock ROM. If you want a stock android tablet, you need to go to cm10, which requires root (which you will have already) but also a second (removeable) boot loader. Again, read the threads before doing anything and you will not have issues. Look at the issues list for cm10 on the kfhd - the only real issue now is audio input and some people complain about 3d gaming.
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apd said:
Let's take this step by step. To install Google play and the launcher properly you will need root. You will also need root to remove amazon crap because some of it is system crap. As with all devices, that probably voids your warranty unless you return it to stock before getting a repair done (ie so they don't find out). So I'm not sure I see the logic of the warranty issue. If you read all the rooting threads, you will gain root first time and won't have any issues.
As for responsiveness with a third party launcher on top of stock, it is still responsive and usable, but less responsive. You will also have two launchers installed because the pure Amazon apps (eg kindle) are only accessible through the Amazon launcher if you are still on stock. There are no 'hard numbers' as each person's set up will be different and, also, the benchmarks are really quite useless.
Your starting point was to use the kfhd as a regular android tablet with the stock ROM. It will act like an android tablet but one with some quirks based on the stock ROM. If you want a stock android tablet, you need to go to cm10, which requires root (which you will have already) but also a second (removeable) boot loader. Again, read the threads before doing anything and you will not have issues. Look at the issues list for cm10 on the kfhd - the only real issue now is audio input and some people complain about 3d gaming.
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I know i'll have to root, and I know it'll void my warranty. But i'm somewhat more at peace by doing just that and staying stock (maybe even removing some apps) than completely wiping off the system and installing a 2nd bootloader. I may be wrong, but wouldn't it be simpler to revert to factory settings that way, in case I need to send it back?
I've been using android for a while now. I have used several roms with three different phones. Some were great, some others not so much. I've experienced its idiosyncrasies when things are still experimental, and I'm fine rebooting my phone every once in a while, or resetting the wi-fi because the driver is not working properly, if it's all for a greater good. But as I said before, this device won't be for me only, so I'd rather have stability and functionality at the cost of raw performance, at least until a stable rom with 100% functionality is released and the process is reasonably risk-free and fool proof. The other users of this device are non-tech savvy and I'd like to keep things as simple and smooth for them as possible.
That's why I'm interested in the quirks of the amazon firmware with another drawer app on top. What would be different from stock android? We will be using it mainly for web browsing, ebook reading, video and music reproduction, emailing and the casual game. I haven't had the chance to try one of this devices yet, so I don't know what could go wrong. Maybe the back and home buttons won't work with another drawer? You mentioned something about not having access to the recent opened app list. Those are the little things I'm interested about: they may not be show stoppers but they can make the day to day experience a little bit painful.
I've also been thinking about the ipad mini because of the ui and general ease of use, but since I can get one of these for 20eur less, with double the disk space and a far better screen, I would rather not. I just wanna make sure the kindle lives to my expectations
anacondo said:
I know i'll have to root, and I know it'll void my warranty. But i'm somewhat more at peace by doing just that and staying stock (maybe even removing some apps) than completely wiping off the system and installing a 2nd bootloader. I may be wrong, but wouldn't it be simpler to revert to factory settings that way, in case I need to send it back?
I've been using android for a while now. I have used several roms with three different phones. Some were great, some others not so much. I've experienced its idiosyncrasies when things are still experimental, and I'm fine rebooting my phone every once in a while, or resetting the wi-fi because the driver is not working properly, if it's all for a greater good. But as I said before, this device won't be for me only, so I'd rather have stability and functionality at the cost of raw performance, at least until a stable rom with 100% functionality is released and the process is reasonably risk-free and fool proof. The other users of this device are non-tech savvy and I'd like to keep things as simple and smooth for them as possible.
That's why I'm interested in the quirks of the amazon firmware with another drawer app on top. What would be different from stock android? We will be using it mainly for web browsing, ebook reading, video and music reproduction, emailing and the casual game. I haven't had the chance to try one of this devices yet, so I don't know what could go wrong. Maybe the back and home buttons won't work with another drawer? You mentioned something about not having access to the recent opened app list. Those are the little things I'm interested about: they may not be show stoppers but they can make the day to day experience a little bit painful.
I've also been thinking about the ipad mini because of the ui and general ease of use, but since I can get one of these for 20eur less, with double the disk space and a far better screen, I would rather not. I just wanna make sure the kindle lives to my expectations
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I'm not sure what else I can add without repeating what I've said. CM10 will do exactly what you want and smoothly. Amazon stock will behave as I;ve already set out. This is no contest with the iPad Mini which is too small, with a crap screen and no ability to customise.
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I didn't want to start a new thread, so i felt I'll post here...
I received the KFHD 8.9" today, and i started it and first thing i noticed is that i have to register it with the amazon account, without that i couldn't use the tab like a normal android device with an app drawer. I have a few questions as a first time user of a kindle:
1) I couldn't find a way to skip the registration part, is it possible to skip it?
2) If i have to register my device with amazon, will it auto update to the latest firmware? Currently i can see the device version as v8.3.user_XXXXX is this 8.3.0 or 8.3.1?
3) Initially i want to just root the device and disable the OTA updates. I assume @soupmagnet's SoupKit will do this.(Although it's gonna be interesting as i've not used linux before)
Hope i made my doubts clear.
Regards,
CD
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How's your experience been so far? Did you root using SoupKit for Linux in the end? Was it succesfull at removing the ads with version 8.3? Are you still using stock, or moved to CM10?
I seem to be in the same situation you were before buying the kindle, so I'm quite interested Would you still recommend the tablet?
Thanks!

[Q] To Unlock/S-Off/Root or not

Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
Coste5a9 said:
Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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Honestly, based on what you wrote I'd say just disable the apps you don't want showing up and call it good. The Sense based ROMs are actually quite nice and HTC has been good about timely updates. Turning things off like Facebook notifications, weather updates, location service, and Google Now if you don't need it will all help. Enjoy your new phone.
I agree with mmuzy. I got my One right after they blocked HTCDev on this phone and the phone it worked perfect with out root. Speed was good, battery life was ok considering the size of the battery. My only reason for being hell bent on rooting this phone was ads on YouTube lol Pretty sure you already know this but disabling the animations in the developer settings speeds up the phone just a tad as well.
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Coste5a9 said:
Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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First things first, with the latest 4.3 update rumrunner doesn't work so even if you wanted to root and s-off it wouldn't be possible yet. Second, unlike Samsung devices, this thing is buttery smooth with or without the bloat so honestly your experience will still be excellent either way. I had an S4 before this phone that was rooted, all bloat removed, ad blocking, greenify, etc and I can tell you right now that right out of the box the HTC One was STILL way smoother than the S4 with NOTHING done to it. I'm running BoneStock at the moment which is basically just a stock rom, so I think HTC did an excellent job with Sense 5 on this phone.
I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another, just sharing my story. I've had the VZW HTC One since launch (Aug 22nd) and never saw a need to root or unlock it out the box. Everything was running great, the phone was smooth.
Suddenly, the 4.3 update arrived and my previously (close to) perfect phone has been plagued by issues. Multiple FCs from core and basic apps, piss poor data connectivity, and worst of all, terrible battery. Since accepting the update, my phone radio has been sucking roughly 45-60% battery at all time. Now I'm growing desperate for a way to unlock my device and control it. I went from around 14-16 hours of medium to heavy usage to barely getting 8 hours from light use. Once again, this is only my story, but, I know that having more control over my device will give me the ability to change my radio and fix my issues. So I vote yay to unlock/root.
LightAeterna said:
I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another, just sharing my story. I've had the VZW HTC One since launch (Aug 22nd) and never saw a need to root or unlock it out the box. Everything was running great, the phone was smooth.
Suddenly, the 4.3 update arrived and my previously (close to) perfect phone has been plagued by issues. Multiple FCs from core and basic apps, piss poor data connectivity, and worst of all, terrible battery. Since accepting the update, my phone radio has been sucking roughly 45-60% battery at all time. Now I'm growing desperate for a way to unlock my device and control it. I went from around 14-16 hours of medium to heavy usage to barely getting 8 hours from light use. Once again, this is only my story, but, I know that having more control over my device will give me the ability to change my radio and fix my issues. So I vote yay to unlock/root.
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Try a factory reset. I was running the 4.3 OTA rom for a few days and I didn't experience any of the issues you just mentioned. I'm now on 4.3 BoneStock with zero issues as well.
Crawshayi said:
Try a factory reset. I was running the 4.3 OTA rom for a few days and I didn't experience any of the issues you just mentioned. I'm now on 4.3 BoneStock with zero issues as well.
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I agree with this. OTAs are nice in that we don't lose all our apps and settings but they're kind of like dirty flashing a custom ROM. If you have a gremlin infestation with the OTA then I'd start with a factory reset and see if things run better when you clean install your apps.
Well, after a few days of time to test after the full wipe and manual restore I'm still experiencing terrible battery life. As I stated before, it was mainly phone radio taking the brunt of the battery, and that still seems to be the case. On the positive side of things, I do have twice the free space available now.

Please help a semi newb, just want a usable device

So I used to root phones years and years ago. HAvent felt the need since.
I just got this the tab s 8.4. Lovely tablet, fast ,good build quality, etc. But I've been using nexus devices since the nexus S. Samsungs interface has me wanting to throw this tablet again the wall.
I just want a stock android experience on this otherwise wonderful tablet,
I looked a bit through the android development section and realized how lost I was. I just want to know the easjest way to get rid of this awful interface so I can run vanilla android.
Is that going to a require a root and rom flash? And there programs out now that do it for you so your back end involvement is mimimized?
Please point me in the right direction of what I need to do to have this wonderful tablet running stock android.
Any help is much appreciated. If someone really helps me out and walks me through the process I have no problem throwing them a few bucks on paypal. Just want this tablet to run the way I want it.
Thanks for your help. Feel free to text 561 808 9694 for quicker response as I may forgot to check this as often as I should.
Use "Google Now Launcher" from Play store
I have successfully used IronRom, which is rooted etc., and highly cusomable.
Also I have used Cyanogenmod 12.1, which is official with nightlies.
Search XDA forums, and you will find these and other gems.
Edit: I may have missed your point (stock android) but the ROM's mentioned gives you a new and better experience with the Tab s 8.4 ...

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