There are some surprisingly good deals for the Moto Z2 force on Swappa, but only for the T-mobile edition. My carrier is AT&T. Will the phone work with just an AT&T SIM?
Speaking from experience only... I always buy Verizon at best buy for full price... When I sold my s8 to a co-worker his at&t sim worked 100%. Now my sim is attached to a buisnesss account so that might help in the unlocking process but I'm pretty sure all Verizon phones are sim unlocked.
I don't think others like at&t/TMobile have easy ways to unlock the sim... It's doable but prbly a hassle
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There are some surprisingly good deals for the Moto Z2 force on Swappa, but only for the T-mobile edition. My carrier is AT&T. Will the phone work with just an AT&T SIM?
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It will work but be prepared for a fight to get it unlocked. Best way to think about it is to add $110 to whatever the price of the phone is. You will have to activate a T-Mobile prepaid account, add over $100, request an unlock, wait AT LEAST 4 days then pray your request is granted.
I recently went through this exact process and from the time I bought the phone to the time it was SIM Unlocked took just under two weeks. Because I purchased the phone from a third party and it didn't show up in TMobile's system it was not eligible for an unlock.
I spent literally hours on the phone with customer service from both T-Mobile and Motorola, to no avail. I tried third party unlock sites which also didn't work. Finally a member here recommended contacting T-Mobile via Twitter. This was by far the most helpful anyone had been and I was able to get the phone unlocked.
After I went through all of this trouble I still ended up selling the phone. There was nothing wrong with it, the gray just wasn't my thing and I wanted the black one. After SIM and bootloader unlocking it I was able to break even and I'm using the T-Mobile SIM in an old phone as a hotspot exclusively to game on.
Truly the best deal on a z2 force right now is to start a new line with Sprint at Best buy. I'm paying $16.34/month for 24 months with $0 down payment. That works out to $392 total. At that price this is absolutely the best phone for the money.
I've read all of the people who are unhappy with Sprint and say they have terrible reception but where I'm at (Midwest) I have had 4-5 bars of LTE all the time. That's better than Att.
What I will have to agree on is the slower network speeds. It's not a HUGE difference like some people say but it is noticable. Personally I'll gladly take a slightly slower but more reliable connection and save $40 bucks a month.
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Thanks for the feedback. This is exactly what I was afraid of. I can't switch to a different network. Both my wife and daughter have grandfathered unlimited iPhone accounts with AT&T as well as a healthy corporate discount, and financially the switch to any other carrier makes no sense. My Nexus 6p died last night and I have been debating between the Pixel XL, Oneplus 5, and Z2 force.
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Thanks for the feedback. This is exactly what I was afraid of. I can't switch to a different network. Both my wife and daughter have grandfathered unlimited iPhone accounts with AT&T as well as a healthy corporate discount, and financially the switch to any other carrier makes no sense. My Nexus 6p died last night and I have been debating between the Pixel XL, Oneplus 5, and Z2 force.
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I understand that. I've been on Att since 2007. It still feels weird seeing Sprint in the status bar and boot screen. However, buying this phone from Att is a huge rip off. They're charging OVER msrp and the bootloader is locked down.
If I were in your shoes I'd look into this: https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...h-Pixel-XLs-but-only-in-North-America_id98059
After dropping and cracking my old Sony Xperia I am all about that shattershield screen. The only other thing close to that with modern specs is the s8 active and that's an Att exclusive, feels cheap, looks awful and cost more than Att's z2! I hate using cases but in my line of work I need durable equipment. If I were smart I'd be using a $20 flip phone but I've been using a smartphone since windows mobile, Palm and blackberry were all still relevant (or even around)
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is this the GSM or CDMA / LTE version?
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according to the Bestbuy Ad it is the i9250m or HSI925BR
Since it's for Bell and Virigin in Canada, it can only possibly be the GSM/HSPA+ version. The CDMA/LTE model is specific to Verizon and won't work for anyone else.
i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones
Yep... no chance you'll get it off contract, pretty sure of that lol.
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i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones
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Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.
I just got back from bell and put my $50.00 deposit and yes there are selling the phone outright. $649.00 and it's 16gb..
Does anybody know if the Canada version will have Tmobile USA 3G/4G bands? I'm thinking it may be cheaper overall to buy the Canada version then it would the UK/International version.
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Base on Samsung and BestBuy Canadian site, it do support the 1700 and 2100 HSPA bands.
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Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.
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I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.
I talked to Bell about 2 days ago, you have to be already a Bell customer or a new customer on a new contract, to buy. They will not sell outright at least for the first month of sales.
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I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.
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this was expected, it'd have been real cool if it did include it though
I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?
I'm gonna guess they'll be unlocked but I have no solid information, just using the Nexus S last year as a proxy (was never sold locked in Canada despite what the carriers said).
Also it might be easier to get it from Virgin Mobile if you want to just buy it outright, which is what I'll try - their supertab or whatever dumb thing they call it then just cancel immediately after.
why cant verizon make ad like that and post it on their website ughhh i am getting sick of verizon
i wouldn't be worried about the SIM lock
you can always go online to have it unlocked
heck even just across the street inside Eaton Center lower level there's a cell phone kiosk there that does unlocking
I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather get it from Canada than from across the pond.
They won't be locked.
If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.
Not according to this...
http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/T...y-Nexus-previews-Android-s-future/ba-p/330548
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If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.
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Probably another 35 or so for "activation fee" if you do that. I think they only waive the fee for new contracts.
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I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?
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I just bought a Photon, which I only did because it is an international capable phone. I know Verizon is going to unlock global roaming, and they're CDMA like Sprint. Is the hardware inside the devices the same? Would it theoretically be possible that Sprint could issue a software update to add global roaming capabilities to their Galaxy SIII? I'm considering replacing the Photon because of the lack of real 4G, and mainly, the lack of SVDO. Part of the reason I have the internet on my phone is so I can get the email or notification right there and then, and if I'm talking to someone, I wanna be able to look something up, especially if it involves school or work. But I want a phone I can go abroad with too, and the Moto Admiral, the iPhone, or BB is no option
And if not, does Sprint really think they can revive their brand if going around the world means not having a phone? Have they not learned lessons from Verizon and ATT's success? Why be late on all three SVDO, LTE, and people travelling with their phones, especially such expensive and premium phones? I, for one, will be more likely to stay with Sprint, which I'm with at the moment because I'm young and don't have a ton of financial resources yet, if I don't always have to worry about renting a phone or having a dumb phone abroad, especially bc smartphones are great for strangers in strange lands.
so I called up Sprint today and the guy told me that it if Sprint wanted to, they COULD issue us an update to have international roaming on the GS3
the answer is no. it's physically impossible, because the Sprint SGS3 has an embedded SIM card for its LTE. meaning you cannot swap SIMs in it. no way around this.
sprint on left, att/tmo/uscc/vzw variant (this one is att) on right:
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notice the lack of SIM slot on sprint's.
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the answer is no. it's physically impossible, because the Sprint SGS3 has an embedded SIM card for its LTE. meaning you cannot swap SIMs in it. no way around this.
sprint on left, att/tmo/uscc/vzw variant (this one is att) on right:
notice the lack of SIM slot on sprint's.
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you don't have to swap SIMs for international ROAMING, so that makes sense, but this does mean it would be hard to use a prepaid SIM card, which is a **** of a lot more convenient. Plus, it probably wouldn't be hard to mod the plastic, or go online, order the part of the back with the screws and SIM-card slot version, which I might do
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you don't have to swap SIMs for international ROAMING, so that makes sense, but this does mean it would be hard to use a prepaid SIM card, which is a **** of a lot more convenient. Plus, it probably wouldn't be hard to mod the plastic, or go online, order the part of the back with the screws and SIM-card slot version, which I might do
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oh, right, you are correct. i assumed they meant a local SIM internationally.
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oh, right, you are correct. i assumed they meant a local SIM internationally.
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It would make perfect sense for Sprint to enable this; us galaxy owners could go overseas, they'd get the high roaming rates, and they wouldn't risk losing customers who wanna travel. I still might save my Photon to swap SIMs. If Sprint doesn't enable it, they are idiots.
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http://www.change.org/petitions/spr...g-on-4g-lte-phones-and-allow-sim-card-removal
I found this online, worth mentioning
ATT is screwing me by refusing to carry forward my unlimited data plan to LTE and has repeatedly tried to force me onto a capped plan.
I saw a newspaper ad today (archaic - I know!) saying T-Mo has an unlimited everything plan for this phone for $90 and it's tempting. I'm hoping to sell or swap my existing GS3.
Is there anything I should be aware of?
Also, what is T-mo's take on this plan if I try to tether?
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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His S3 won't get HSPA on T-Mobile. He needs a T-Mobile S3.
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I'm pretty sure you can just swap sims? Tethering has been beaten to death on these forums. I'd take a few minutes to search and ask your questions in those threads if they haven't been covered yet.
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I think I already made it clear I anticipated getting a new S3. I know that they aren't fully compatible for 3/4G/LTE.
Re: Tethering. I though this was a new plan - it appears to be as much in the advert.
They block tethering on unlimited data plans but rooted tethering might work. I haven't tried it yet.
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They are trying to kill teather with updates. I tried T-Mobile with still having my main line on att. Speeds were either really fast or dead slow. I'd rather just stick with att because it's decently fast wherever I go.
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I just recently re-upped with T-Mobile. They have two types of plans out right now. They have what they call the classic plan and I can't remember what their new plans are called.
Anyway, with the classic plan you get the phone subsidized, but the plan itself is pretty expensive. On the other hand if you get their newer plan, you pay full price for the phone, but the plan itself is dirt cheap (cheapest I can find among the major carriers). While $600 for a phone might seem like a lot, they only require a $200 down payment and since you're starting a new contract you'll probably get $100 or so knocked off. The rest of the price of the phone is spread throughout the first 20 months of your contract.
Applying a little basic finance and assuming you have a decent stock portfolio, I estimated my cost of my Galaxy S3 at around $350 and my monthly fees went down from $230-250 to its current $140-150.
Don't know much about T-Mobile signal in your area, but if you can manage a consistent 3G I'd say it's worth the cost savings.
I would tell you that you will be very happy with t-mobile vs att, I did the switch my self and I couldn't be any happier, my data is very fast and yes it is faster than att and I get 4g 95% of the time in my area, my brother still have att with the s3 and my phone is way faster than his, on a speed test mine gets between 17000-22000 kbs consent vs his the highest he gets is about 5000-8000
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kbs....I don't care what every one else says..but I drove from Michigan to Florida and I have coverage on t-mobile network 99% of the time....just my own personal experience .....good luck.
I forgot to mention that my phone is bone stock. Stock Rome and no root yet.
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I would tell you that you will be very happy with t-mobile vs att, I did the switch my self and I couldn't be any happier, my data is very fast and yes it is faster than att and I get 4g 95% of the time in my area, my brother still have att with the s3 and my phone is way faster than his, on a speed test mine gets between 17000-22000 kbs consent vs his the highest he gets is about 5000-8000View attachment 1339975kbs....I don't care what every one else says..but I drove from Michigan to Florida and I have coverage on t-mobile network 99% of the time....just my own personal experience .....good luck.
I forgot to mention that my phone is bone stock. Stock Rome and no root yet.
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Outside buildings great. Inside of them not so much. Everyone has a different experience. Hopefully it will be better for you
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Has anyone activated and used the Samsung Epic 4G on TracFone.
I was considering buying one of these, and activating it with TracFone, basically just to use for light mobile voice and data usage, and mostly for WiFi browsing.
TracFone claims you can activate a CDMA phone with them, but researching their site is extremely vague, and I was hoping a TracFone user could shed some light.
I was wondering how much it would cost to activate the phone, if you can use it with a third party ROM, and if you can buy a double the minutes card and use it with this phone.
Thanks for any info.
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Has anyone activated and used the Samsung Epic 4G on TracFone.
I was considering buying one of these, and activating it with TracFone, basically just to use for light mobile voice and data usage, and mostly for WiFi browsing.
TracFone claims you can activate a CDMA phone with them, but researching their site is extremely vague, and I was hoping a TracFone user could shed some light.
I was wondering how much it would cost to activate the phone, if you can use it with a third party ROM, and if you can buy a double the minutes card and use it with this phone.
Thanks for any info.
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I haven't heard of anybody using this device with TracFone, but FreedomPop, Virgin Mobile, Boost, Page Plus, and Straight Talk ate confirmed working. I'm on FreedomPop, $12.50 a month for 1GB of data and unlimited talk and text.
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I haven't heard of anybody using introduction with TracFone, but FreedomPop, Virgin Mobile, Boost, Page Plus, and Straight Talk ate confirmed working. I'm on FreedomPop, $12.50 a month for 1GB of data and unlimited talk and text.
Sounds good. Unfortunately FreedomPop is not available in NJ. I'm curious how FreedomPop delivers its access. TracFone simply buys huge amounts of time from ATT and Verizon, then resells it. FreedomPop sounds like a fantastic deal. Best you can get with TracFone is $7 a month, 60 minutes talk/60 texts/60mb data, and thats only possible if you bought a Triple the Minutes phone.
In my area, you can get either TracFone GSM phone (ATT Network which SUCKS), or TracFone CDMA phone (which is Verizon and is rock solid).
Does FreedomPop operate their own towers or do they simply buy time and resell it?
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bilgerryan said:
I haven't heard of anybody using introduction with TracFone, but FreedomPop, Virgin Mobile, Boost, Page Plus, and Straight Talk ate confirmed working. I'm on FreedomPop, $12.50 a month for 1GB of data and unlimited talk and text.
Sounds good. Unfortunately FreedomPop is not available in NJ. I'm curious how FreedomPop delivers its access. TracFone simply buys huge amounts of time from ATT and Verizon, then resells it. FreedomPop sounds like a fantastic deal. Best you can get with TracFone is $7 a month, 60 minutes talk/60 texts/60mb data, and thats only possible if you bought a Triple the Minutes phone.
In my area, you can get either TracFone GSM phone (ATT Network which SUCKS), or TracFone CDMA phone (which is Verizon and is rock solid).
Does FreedomPop operate their own towers or do they simply buy time and resell it?
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They use Sprint, if Sprint exists in NJ you're good, they said it wasn't available in my state. But it was $2.50 to try the first month, coverage is exactly the same as with Sprint. Calls and messages are done through a FreedomPop app.
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I have decided (if it is inexpensive enough) to purchase a Note 4 off-contract for use with AT&T.
My question is: which models are compatible with AT&T, in all respects. I don't want to sacrifice legitimate LTE connectivity, and I've read elsewhere that some of the factory-unlocked models don't play well with AT&T's LTE network, depending on where you live.
Obviously, my motivation for going this route is to get around the ongoing battle of AT&T locking the bootloaders on all of their Samsung devices, and given that I've had my S4 for 2 years with no unlock in sight...I'm never ever willing to go through 2 years of having a locked bootloader again.
Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2962920 as the T-Mobile appears to have all the necessary bands needed for use on ATT.
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Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2962920 as the T-Mobile appears to have all the necessary bands needed for use on ATT.
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It certainly doesn't have ALL the necessary bands, but you could argue that it has enough of them
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I have the T-mobile version and AT&T version of the Note 4. The T-mobile version works as good or the same compared to the at&t phone. The only issue i had was a few calls to at&t to stop them from seeing it as a blackberry. once that was fixed I've had zero issues whatsoever. Your mileage might vary depending upon what bands your area uses. If i had to do it again, i would most defiantly only buy the T-mobile version of the Note 4. My AT&T version is just a spare $852 paperweight sitting in the drawer due to the locked bootloader. Not to mention the T-Mobile version is $100 less on costs. Oh well i guess i have a spare screen just in case.
I would think the att version would be cheaper than T-Mobile because T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader. Why do you need unlocked boot loader? For Roms?
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I would think the att version would be cheaper than T-Mobile because T-Mobile has unlocked bootloader. Why do you need unlocked boot loader? For Roms?
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AT&T version is way more expensive on full price.
Unlocked bootloader for full root, kernel, twrp, rom support.
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AT&T version is way more expensive on full price.
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Ahh. No need to buy from carrier. Bought from another site and att let me add insurance on it. Plus note 5 around the corner so maybe wait and get tmobile one from carrier even cheaper
Maybe. I'm using square trade for warranty. It's $5 month with a deductible of only $75. But yup. I have AT&T version and T-Mobile phone. I bought both on payments.
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Maybe. I'm using square trade for warranty. It's $5 month with a deductible of only $75. But yup. I have AT&T version and T-Mobile phone. I bought both on payments.
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I like square trade and would recommend it but it doesn't cover stolen/lost phones. And they always have a good deal like $100 for 2 year warranty.