You miss Full-Disk Encryption on your OnePlus 5?
Here's a fix.
Flash the zip below after flashing your kernel (which means after every ROM update as well!).
The very first time you flash this mod, you'll have to format userdata, or bad things will happen.
First-time Install instructions:
Flash your ROM
Flash the attached Zip
(Optional) Flash Magisk
Format userdata. In TWRP, go to Wipe -> Format Data
Reboot
You are now unencrypted.
To encrypt in Full-Disk Encryption mode, go to Settings -> Security -> Encrypt
You're now in FDE mode!
Profit!
And don't forget to reflash this module every time you flash a new boot image.
XDA:DevDB Information
Full-Disk-Encryption Enabler for OP5, Device Specific App for the OnePlus 5
Contributors
Fif_
Version Information
Status: Beta
Current Beta Version: 1.0
Beta Release Date: 2017-09-12
Created 2017-09-13
Last Updated 2017-09-13
Here's the Zip.
@Fif_ should i erase "internal storage" or just data partition!Thank You!
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dragoi90 said:
@Fif_ should i erase "internal storage" or just data partition!Thank You!
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You need to format the data partition. That all also nuke the internal storage by the way, so your phone will be back to factory reset.
Is this used for people who decrypted their devices and wish to go back to encrypted so that they can flash roms that only works with encrypted?
BlueEffect said:
Is this used for people who decrypted their devices and wish to go back to encrypted so that they can flash roms that only works with encrypted?
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No this is for people that want to run FDE rather than FBE. Eg. to have Xposed working.
Fif_ said:
No this is for people that want to run FDE rather than FBE. Eg. to have Xposed working.
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You can have Xposed working with FBE by just soft rebooting using Xposed installer.
alukarulz said:
You can have Xposed working with FBE by just soft rebooting using Xposed installer.
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You are right, but I don't want to have to do that, I want Xposed on the first boot...
BlueEffect said:
Is this used for people who decrypted their devices and wish to go back to encrypted so that they can flash roms that only works with encrypted?
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If you want the go under settings and security and encrypt your phone
BlueEffect said:
Is this used for people who decrypted their devices and wish to go back to encrypted so that they can flash roms that only works with encrypted?
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ndarkside93 said:
If you want the go under settings and security and encrypt your phone
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This is used to change encryption type from FBE to FDE. You can also use it to run decrypted.
Fif_ said:
This is used to change encryption type from FBE to FDE. You can also use it to run decrypted.
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I know.I was just answering his question.
alukarulz said:
You can have Xposed working with FBE by just soft rebooting using Xposed installer.
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Fif_ said:
You are right, but I don't want to have to do that, I want Xposed on the first boot...
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Ahh... I see... I am getting tired of having to soft reboot after each reboot. It looks like this FDE mod/hack would resolve this problem, right? Are there any real drawbacks to using FDE over FBE? What about if/when I decide to switch to another ROM?
sjamie said:
Ahh... I see... I am getting tired of having to soft reboot after each reboot. It looks like this FDE mod/hack would resolve this problem, right? Are there any real drawbacks to using FDE over FBE? What about if/when I decide to switch to another ROM?
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I downside is you have to flash the fde flash file Everytime you flash an update. Plus the first time you need to erase data.
alukarulz said:
I downside is you have to flash the fde flash file Everytime you flash an update. Plus the first time you need to erase data.
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Would I have to also erase my data when switching to a different ROM?
alukarulz said:
I downside is you have to flash the fde flash file Everytime you flash an update. Plus the first time you need to erase data.
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I'm already flashing Magisk after every ROM update, so it's just one more zip to flash.
Actually stock OOS doesn't seem to care, you only have to flash this mod once, before you convert to FDE.
OOS 4.5.10 will happily boot in FDE even without the mod, provided that the data partition is already FDE.
That's not the case for every ROM.
Another downside is that no unattended boots are possible. You have to type in the FDE password to boot into Android.
sjamie said:
Would I have to also erase my data when switching to a different ROM?
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No. Only once.
Fif_ said:
I'm already flashing Magisk after every ROM update, so it's just one more zip to flash.
Actually stock OOS doesn't seem to care, you only have to flash this mod once, before you convert to FDE.
OOS 4.5.10 will happily boot in FDE even without the mod, provided that the data partition is already FDE.
That's not the case for every ROM.
Another downside is that no unattended boots are possible. You have to type in the FDE password to boot into Android.
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Thanks! I'll definitely give this mod a try if I truly get tired of having to soft boot after each normal boot. Is there a tasker profile or some other way to automate that?
sjamie said:
Thanks! I'll definitely give this mod a try if I truly get tired of having to soft boot after each normal boot. Is there a tasker profile or some other way to automate that?
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Yes you can, run in a root shell:
Code:
setsid sh -c 'stop; start'
But I always run into strange things in Xposed if it's not running at boot, so YMMV.
Be careful not to just restart the system UI but the full zygote stack.
Fif_ said:
Yes you can, run in a root shell:
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Thank you. What exactly is that command doing? Do I have to run it after each boot?
sjamie said:
Thank you. What exactly is that command doing? Do I have to run it after each boot?
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"stop" stops all Android services.
"start" starts them again.
The "setsid sh" wrapper is there so that the commands will survive the Android shutdown and run to completion even if the parent process calling root is killed (which will happen as soon as "stop" runs).
Yes you'd have to run this after every boot.
But be careful that the second time Android starts after a boot is not detected as a second boot event or you'll end up in a restart loop.
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I have seen several posts referring to disabling encryption but not a reason why I should. I am rooted, running 6.0.1, and I skipped the decryption step during the root. My phone says it is encrypted. I haven't noticed any lag but I have only had my phone for 1.5 weeks. One would "assume" that having it encrypted would be better. So why would I want to disable it? Is there a cumulative effect that I don't know about?
Thank you.
If you don't want to and you want to leave it encrypted go for it. An encrypted fs will have slower read/write speeds, and some people aren't worried about having their phone encrypted. You can always re encrypt in security settings just now you wont be forced to have it on.
For my personal device i never use encryption, without it devices are notably faster for me.
67p912 said:
I have seen several posts referring to disabling encryption but not a reason why I should. I am rooted, running 6.0.1, and I skipped the decryption step during the root. My phone says it is encrypted. I haven't noticed any lag but I have only had my phone for 1.5 weeks. One would "assume" that having it encrypted would be better. So why would I want to disable it? Is there a cumulative effect that I don't know about?
Thank you.
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It's more convenient for flashing ROMs if it's decrypted. Because TWRP recovery can't see an encrypted partition, you can't download a ROM to your phone's storage and then flash it in recovery. It would be nice if we could have two data partitions, an encrypted one and an unencrypted one.
Jacquestrapp said:
It's more convenient for flashing ROMs if it's decrypted. Because TWRP recovery can't see an encrypted partition, you can't download a ROM to your phone's storage and then flash it in recovery. It would be nice if we could have two data partitions, an encrypted one and an unencrypted one.
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TWRP has be able to 'see' encrypted storage for a while now.
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PiousInquisitor said:
TWRP has be able to 'see' encrypted storage for a while now.
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Is there some kind of trick to that, or some setting in TWRP that needs to be enabled? It didn't work for me the first time I tried it.
Jacquestrapp said:
Is there some kind of trick to that, or some setting in TWRP that needs to be enabled? It didn't work for me the first time I tried it.
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It just works and has since November with TWRP version 2.8.7.2.
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Regarding encryption, if I were to do a twrp backup with 'encryption on', can i restore that backup on a 'encryption off' phone after.
My plan is to:
Nandroid backup with encryption on
Decrypt (which erases all user data)
Restore backup
How will this affect the backup since 1 has encryption on previously?
how to disable encryption?
cavalloz said:
how to disable encryption?
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Code:
fastboot format userdata
^^^This will wipe your internal storage^^^
Edit: Need a modified kernel that doesn't force encryption.
How about a few more details on turning off encryption please.
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I know on most devices I've owned you needed a non-encrypted kernel and I had to perform a format of data to remove encryption. I have seen a few posts in a couple of other threads but nothing I saw was definitive. Does anyone know if unencrypting the XL is even possible? If so, which kernel are you using?
I also have the same question, I just want descrpt data partition to avoid risk when I turn to TWRP and MultiROM in future,
So anyone try this? I can not understand why I need Magisk here??
http://androiding.how/disable-verity-force-encryption-pixel-xl-decrypt/
Mike02z said:
I know on most devices I've owned you needed a non-encrypted kernel and I had to perform a format of data to remove encryption. I have seen a few posts in a couple of other threads but nothing I saw was definitive. Does anyone know if unencrypting the XL is even possible? If so, which kernel are you using?
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Azlun said:
I also have the same question, I just want descrpt data partition to avoid risk when I turn to TWRP and MultiROM in future,
So anyone try this? I can not understand why I need Magisk here??
http://androiding.how/disable-verity-force-encryption-pixel-xl-decrypt/
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Notice in the attached that it states that TWRP plus SuperSU decrypts file based encryption.... https://www.xda-developers.com/supersu-updated-to-work-with-twrp-on-pixel-and-pixelxl/
cam30era said:
Notice in the attached that it states that TWRP plus SuperSU decrypts file based encryption.... https://www.xda-developers.com/supersu-updated-to-work-with-twrp-on-pixel-and-pixelxl/
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" Dees_Troy to allow TWRP to decrypt the data partition involves modifying the same init binary " is NOT what I want according developer's
https://plus.google.com/+DeesTroy Pixel update 4 picture.
What I want is need the full device decryption permanently, on Anroid running time, not only on TWRP.
so, I think that is maybe more than TWRP can do, I guess a special boot.img or a kernel patch zip is need to reach what I need.
Mike02z said:
I know on most devices I've owned you needed a non-encrypted kernel and I had to perform a format of data to remove encryption. I have seen a few posts in a couple of other threads but nothing I saw was definitive. Does anyone know if unencrypting the XL is even possible? If so, which kernel are you using?
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Decrypting your pixel is possible. The process isn't much different than any previous Nexus. It differs due to the removal of the recovery partition thus the recovery fstab is now in the kernels ramdisk. So you must edit out forecencryption in both fstabs. (fstab.marlin,fstab.recovery).
Fastboot format userdata, flash a modified kernel, done..
Haven't seen any custom kernels that remove the flag yet so I modified ElementalX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pix...oem-unlock-t3498287/post69733387#post69733387
blueyes said:
Decrypting your pixel is possible. The process isn't much different than any previous Nexus. It differs due to the removal of the recovery partition thus the recovery fstab is now in the kernels ramdisk. So you must edit out forecencryption in both fstabs. (fstab.marlin,fstab.recovery).
Fastboot format userdata, flash a modified kernel, done..
Haven't seen any custom kernels that remove the flag yet so I modified ElementalX.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pix...oem-unlock-t3498287/post69733387#post69733387
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I did use your modified Elemental kernel that was in the thread about the ability to show that your bootloader is unlocked.
Here is what I did...
Went into TWRP and did a format data from the wipe menu.
Flashed your kernel via USB SD dongle.
Rebooted.
Took about 5-8 minutes to boot but when I went into "Security" it still showed my phone was encrypted. I did this with every Nexus device I've owned but not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Mike02z said:
I did use your modified Elemental kernel that was in the thread about the ability to show that your bootloader is unlocked.
Here is what I did...
Went into TWRP and did a format data from the wipe menu.
Flashed your kernel via USB SD dongle.
Rebooted.
Took about 5-8 minutes to boot but when I went into "Security" it still showed my phone was encrypted. I did this with every Nexus device I've owned but not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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Don't you need to format user data with fast boot to decrypt?
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to find ROM that supports encryption. There are two options available:
1. Encrypt using lock screen password
2. Encrypt device
The first one does nothing. I tried booting into TWRP and see all files unencrypted that are supposed to be, according to the disclaimer.
The second does not finish, it just gets to 100% and then stuck (I waited for a few hours) and the only way it to reboot having corrupted FS.
So the question is how to enable data encryption?
I tried almost everything global stable, Chinese stable and dev ROMS, original and miuipro and xioami.eu. And everything with the same outcome.
MIUI should be using file based encryption which will be present when you boot the ROM.
No need to enable it. Just don't disable it....
Most of the Nougat ROMs for Mi 6 support file based encryption now so all you need do is FORMAT data (not just wipe) and it will be present.
My suggestion would be to install and MIUI stock ROM and then format data (that includes internal storage so backup if you are using it now).
Then reboot and start phone as clean device.
There doesn't seem to be an advantage to using ROMs that don't have file based encryption and then trying to enable it later.
Rom either has FBE or it doesn't have encryption at all for me :/
Does it work for you? How do you confirm this?
I did format from TWRP, ran through setup and took a photo.
I still can access files and can see the content without entering any password from TWRP.
By default all encryption options are unset in MIUI.
You are saying right things if that would be vanilla Android but it seems something is broken in MIUI.
conmu said:
Hi guys,
I'm trying to find ROM that supports encryption. There are two options available....
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I flashed last global stable rom (1.9Gb .tgz) using mi flash tool after a format data in twrp and the device was encrypted by default. I only had to switch on "encrypt using lockscreen password" in privacy settings. But i don't know why even though i flash twrp the stock recovery returns after every reboot
Usefull link:
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/fe...nstall-redmi-note-4-mi-max-2-6-5s-mix-1771733
valeriopastore20 said:
I flashed last global stable rom (1.9Gb .tgz) using mi flash tool after a format data in twrp and the device was encrypted by default. I only had to switch on "encrypt using lockscreen password" in privacy settings. But i don't know why even though i flash twrp the stock recovery returns after every reboot
Usefull link:
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/fe...nstall-redmi-note-4-mi-max-2-6-5s-mix-1771733
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You have to disable the stock recovery being reflashed from system with a script.
Not sure where you get that though it comes default with Coffaces TWRP.
Are you using the official TWRP?
If so does it work properly?
Dobsgw said:
You have to disable the stock recovery being reflashed from system with a script.
Not sure where you get that though it comes default with Coffaces TWRP.
Are you using the official TWRP?
If so does it work properly?
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I'm using this one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-6/development/recovery-twrp-3-1-1-0-xiaomi-mi6-t3608008
because with other recoveries i had problems while restoring data from backup (error 255).
valeriopastore20 said:
I'm using this one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-6/development/recovery-twrp-3-1-1-0-xiaomi-mi6-t3608008
because with other recoveries i had problems while restoring data from backup (error 255).
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Okay cool.
Doesn't look like it has decryption support so maybe I'll try official
valeriopastore20 said:
the device was encrypted by default
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Sorry for the stupid question but how did you understand this? What is the actual check to confirm this?
conmu said:
Sorry for the stupid question but how did you understand this? What is the actual check to confirm this?
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Settings - security - encryption = "phone encrypted"
conmu said:
Sorry for the stupid question but how did you understand this? What is the actual check to confirm this?
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in privacy settings you will see something like this (i don't have miui9 encrypted anymore so i looked for a screenshot on google) http://attach.en.miui.com/forum/201604/10/202340xmpnzcaciianqnpg.png
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Settings - security - encryption = "phone encrypted"
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SYSTEM & DEVICE > Additional settings > Privacy: Advanced # Encrypt phone
If this it then that is point #2 from my initial message and that never finishes with any ROM I tried
So you say this is enabled right after the flashing and you did not actually ran "Encrypt phone" from this menu (that only works if battery charged above 80%)?
And when you boot into TWRP it asks for a password?
conmu said:
SYSTEM & DEVICE > Additional settings > Privacy: Advanced # Encrypt phone
If this it then that is point #2 from my initial message and that never finishes with any ROM I tried
So you say this is enabled right after the flashing and you did not actually ran "Encrypt phone" from this menu (that only works if battery charged above 80%)?
And when you boot into TWRP it asks for a password?
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Never had to manually encrypt no.
Just choose a ROM with FBE enabled. That includes MIUI stock.
Flash it and then format data with TWRP.
On first boot it creates the encryption.
Then when you set a password this is your key.
When you boot to TWRP it will ask for the password to decrypt. Password is your pin.
Dobsgw said:
Never had to manually encrypt no.
Just choose a ROM with FBE enabled. That includes MIUI stock.
Flash it and then format data with TWRP.
On first boot it creates the encryption.
Then when you set a password this is your key.
When you boot to TWRP it will ask for the password to decrypt. Password is your pin.
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Did you flash it via TWRP and formatted without reboot in the same session within TWRP? That is probably the only way I did not try.
conmu said:
Did you flash it via TWRP and formatted without reboot in the same session within TWRP? That is probably the only way I did not try.
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Yeah that would be the best way.
Formatting data deletes entire SD card so back it up to PC!
I was wondering if there existed a 'no-force encrypt' kernel I could flash to the Pixel C on 8.1.0?
Format data and then install magisk.
Monazite said:
Format data and then install magisk.
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Thanks. I wish it had been that simple .If I do this I think (and Iam not so sure) that wiping the data partition did remove the encryption. I then flashed Magisk. But when I rebooted to TWRP, the system was encrypted again, asking me for a password which I haven't got. Is there not a 'no-force encryption file I am supposed to flash before or after I flash Magisk, to prevent the system from encrypting again?
fgaine said:
Thanks. I wish it had been that simple .If I do this I think (and Iam not so sure) that wiping the data partition did remove the encryption. I then flashed Magisk. But when I rebooted to TWRP, the system was encrypted again, asking me for a password which I haven't got. Is there not a 'no-force encryption file I am supposed to flash before or after I flash Magisk, to prevent the system from encrypting again?
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Have you checked encrypted status in settings? Magisked boot.img should have disabled encryption if data partition is not encrypted. Or you need flash another kernel?
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fgaine said:
Thanks. I wish it had been that simple .If I do this I think (and Iam not so sure) that wiping the data partition did remove the encryption. I then flashed Magisk. But when I rebooted to TWRP, the system was encrypted again, asking me for a password which I haven't got. Is there not a 'no-force encryption file I am supposed to flash before or after I flash Magisk, to prevent the system from encrypting again?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...yflasher-make-install-custom-kernels-t3537487
JUST WANT TO DISABLE VERITY/ENCRYPTION?
You can build lazyflasher by itself, empty, without a kernel Image.fit or modules and flash it!
It's already set up to automatically disable verity and make encryption optional.
Alternatively, there's a branch already set up called no-verity-opt-encrypt. You can find prebuilt official zips at:
https://build.nethunter.com/android-tools/no-verity-opt-encrypt/
Install as last step - after Magisk installation .. but normally Magisk is removing force-encryption too.
Are you sure you did format /data ?
Just wiping is not enough !
As it's not a development topic this thread should be moved to QA section ..
Anyway .. Good luck !
followmsi said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...yflasher-make-install-custom-kernels-t3537487
JUST WANT TO DISABLE VERITY/ENCRYPTION?
You can build lazyflasher by itself, empty, without a kernel Image.fit or modules and flash it!
It's already set up to automatically disable verity and make encryption optional.
Alternatively, there's a branch already set up called no-verity-opt-encrypt. You can find prebuilt official zips at:
https://build.nethunter.com/android-tools/no-verity-opt-encrypt/
Install as last step - after Magisk installation .. but normally Magisk is removing force-encryption too.
Are you sure you did format /data ?
Just wiping is not enough !
As it's not a development topic this thread should be moved to QA section ..
Anyway .. Good luck !
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Thanks for the info. I'll try that later on. Don't fancy formatting and having to reinstall everything again for now. Cheers.
well, i've follow every single tutorial on a32 4g's xda page, even tried some youtube ones, but my phone just WON'T boot GSIs
it is not an a325F like most people, it's an a325M (the difference is that a325M support more LTE frequencies),
Well, i install samsung stock firmware, then install TWRP, run multidisabler, then format data, then reboot again, then factory reset and then finally installing the GSI as an .img file applied to System Image
that was the first method i tested, i tested many others, with no sucess
what happens, you may ask? the phone starts, show samsung logo with the classic warning above it, and after 3 secs it restarts.... a literal bootloop
can you guys help me? im tired of samsung's stock ONE UI, it's sooooo laggy
i've tried CrDroid, RiceDroid, Lineage with no success
i will try using DSU, ill return here later
installed the GSI using DSU sideloader w/ magisk, lets see if it boots
HEH didn't boot..... wtf is wrong with this phone???
i even tested GOOGLE'S OFICIAL GSI and it DIDNT BOOT.... yeah this phone is ****ted
applesucksLmao said:
i even tested GOOGLE'S OFICIAL GSI and it DIDNT BOOT.... yeah this phone is ****ted
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Did you format your phone at each time? And do you have installed a thing in top of magisk? Try this magisk ---> https://huskydg.github.io/magisk-files/
kilam9900 said:
Did you format your phone at each time? And do you have installed a thing in top of magisk? Try this magisk ---> https://huskydg.github.io/magisk-files/
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will try
doesn't work, even with no magisk it just bootloops
you know what, **** it, i had enough with this phone, guess ill just install normal ONE Ui and debloat it... the phone literally doesn't accept any GSI and bootloops, not even using android's own DSU system
Factory reset doesn't mean system wipe, it just means a data wipe. It goes back to Samsung's boot animation because OneUI is still installed.
Wipe Dalvik/ART Cache, System, Data and Cache and try again.
Have you also checked what kind of GSI your phone supports? Maybe it's A-Only, maybe it's AB.
Myrmeko said:
Factory reset doesn't mean system wipe, it just means a data wipe. It goes back to Samsung's boot animation because OneUI is still installed.
Wipe Dalvik/ART Cache, System, Data and Cache and try again.
Have you also checked what kind of GSI your phone supports? Maybe it's A-Only, maybe it's AB.
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i did that yesterday, and it's virtual AB
Did you disable AVB/VBmeta?
applesucksLmao said:
you know what, **** it, i had enough with this phone, guess ill just install normal ONE Ui and debloat it... the phone literally doesn't accept any GSI and bootloops, not even using android's own DSU sys
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kilam9900 said:
Did you disable AVB/VBmeta?
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yep
applesucksLmao said:
yep
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sure at 100%? because it could be this and even google says it
kilam9900 said:
sure at 100%? because it could be this and even google says it
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ye i've done it
applesucksLmao said:
ye i've done it
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Did you disable encryption?
kilam9900 said:
Did you disable encryption?
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yes, with multidisabler and i even tried one time using a force decrypt zip
applesucksLmao said:
yes, with multidisabler and i even tried one time using a force decrypt zip
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with anykernel one?
kilam9900 said:
with anykernel one?
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what do you mean? i didn't flash any kernel, oh actually, i tried one time with the kernel someone posted here on a different thread