i have an i747m phone on rogers network (locked). it is still on original firmware version, although it is rooted.
i recently flashed lineageos.
since then the sim card is not recognised (no network). i am unsure what the issue IS, but i have been further educating myself for the last four days on this topic and am still unclear on some things. i wonder if you could answer some questions and give a bit of guidance.
here's what i know:
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made nandroid backup before upgrading to lineageos
phone worked fine before the update to lineageos
android version was 4.0.4
the bootloader and modem has not to my knowledge been changed since purchase -- i am the original owner.
the phone was rooted shortly after purchase by me
baseband is I747MVLLE8
bootloader is i747MVLALE8
os is now lineageos 14.1-20170828-nightly-d2att
### i can receive calls. phone does not ring, but there is visual notification and i can answer and talk.
### (update) i reinstalled lineageos and now incoming DOES ring. on the screen it says "incoming call via emergency network". i do not see any way to answer the call now, and even after hanging up the initiating call it continues to ring until reboot.
### (update2) i have been able to answer the "incoming call via emergency network" and it seems to connect normally. is this a glitch, or are "incoming emergency calls" a "thing"?
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i read that one of the likely reasons is "out of date baseband/modem/bootloader"
here's what i am unsure of:
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probable cause of "no sim"
should i upgrade bootloader? if so to what version and how?
should i upgrade modem? if so to what version and how?
anything else that should be updated?
what does "d2att" stand for and represent? is it part of the hardware/model of the phone? e.g. what is the difference between d2att and d2can?
is d2att the correct "thing" for the rogers network in canada for an i747m?
can i use heimdall and the images from sammobile.com to upgrade ONLY the modem and/or bootloader? if so, what files do i use (which one's are which?)?
if i use heimdall to flash the WHOLE sammobile "firmware" what happens? do i need to flash them all incrementally (v4.1, v4.2, v4.3 etc), or can i go from 4.0.4 straight to 4.4.2?
what is the minimum baseband/modem/bootloader that will work with lineageos 14.1 (android 7?)?
what are the drawbacks associated with upgrading the baseband/modem/firmware?
should i flash an older baseband first and try to unlock my sim or is that problematic in other ways?
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i am tech savvy and can follow complex instructions. i am not afraid of SOFT bricks as long as there is some way for me to revert. what IS holding me up is the fact that there are no clear directions (that i could find so far) for doing what i am trying to do, no clear indications of what the dangers are (that i could find so far), and (seemingly) conflicting information abounds. i understand (more than ever now) that this is a very complex topic and everything in this realm is unofficial. i would be very grateful if you could bring me up to speed on this topic a bit more, help me to understand things in more depth.
my goal is to update the phone the the newest lineageos (if that is possible and recommended), and to have full functionality. IF lineageos 14.1 is not to my liking, being able to revert to SOMETHING else would be great!
thanks so much!
The phone needs to be running the latest bootloader and modem to run the latest Lineage.
d2att is the moniker for the AT&T s3. The d2can is the Canadian version used by Canadian carriers other than Wind/Freedom, Videotron, and Shaw. The d2lte is the international version of the s3, although the d2att and d2lte ROMs may work on the d2can.
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The phone needs to be running the latest bootloader and modem to run the latest Lineage.
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ok great to know!
do you know if i can update just the bootloader and modem and if so how? i have the file
I747MVLUFOB3_I747MOYAFOB3_RWC.zip
from sammobile.com (for the i747m rogers) which contains around ten files. which one is the bootloader and which one the modem (or does it work like that?)? there is a post here
ohthehugemanatee <dot> org/blog/2015/04/04/how-and-why-to-update-the-modem-slash-baseband-firmware-on-a-samsung-phone/
that talks about the theory (if not the exact practice for my exact phone) of how to do it. can you verify this would work as demonstrated using heimdall?
is it advised to do any of this with a locked sim? i am on the rogers network and would be flashing files/firmware (presumably) for the rogers network.
audit13 said:
d2att is the moniker for the AT&T s3. The d2can is the Canadian version used by Canadian carriers other than Wind/Freedom, Videotron, and Shaw. The d2lte is the international version of the s3, although the d2att and d2lte ROMs may work on the d2can.
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since you did not list rogers there does that mean that i would have the d2can then? i used the d2att version of TWRP (as well as lineageos) -- do you think that is going to cause problems?
thanks very much for your reply!
Rogers, Telus, and Bell s3 are the d2can.
You unzip the file from sammobile.com only once to get a tar.md5 file that you flash in the pda/ap slot of Odin. Sim card is not required to be in the phone when flashing.
Using twrp and lineage for the d2att shouldn't be an issue since the att version of the s3 uses the same hardware as the Rogers s3.
audit13 said:
Rogers, Telus, and Bell s3 are the d2can.
You unzip the file from sammobile.com only once to get a tar.md5 file that you flash in the pda/ap slot of Odin. Sim card is not required to be in the phone when flashing.
Using twrp and lineage for the d2att shouldn't be an issue since the att version of the s3 uses the same hardware as the Rogers s3.
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cool ok.
do you think i can go straight from 4.0.4 firmware to 4.4.2 (latest i think?)? is it recommended?
It should be no problem to flash the 4.4.2 stock rom over the existing 4.0x ROM.
Is the phone network unlocked? If not, flash the stock 4.1.1 ROM and use the free method to network unlock the phone. The unlock will be permanent.
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It should be no problem to flash the 4.4.2 stock rom over the existing 4.0x ROM.
Is the phone network unlocked? If not, flash the stock 4.1.1 ROM and use the free method to network unlock the phone. The unlock will be permanent.
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cool. couple of questions:
1/ do i need to use a sim from a network other than my own (rogers) in order to complete the free unlock? many of the "free unlock" tutorials mention inserting "the new sim" in order to do the unlock.
2/ will this image (rogers 4.1.1) work for getting me the free unlock or do i have to use a pristine one?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
the reason i ask is that sammobile seems to require a premium account to get that older 4.1.1 image.
cheers!
You don't need a SIM card from another carrier to unlock on 4.1.1 but you need a SIM from another carrier to verify that the phone is unlocked.
Try updato.com for a stock Canadian 4.1.1 rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529200
Don't flash beyond 4.1.1 until the phone is sim unlocked.
audit13 said:
You don't need a SIM card from another carrier to unlock on 4.1.1 but you need a SIM from another carrier to verify that the phone is unlocked.
Try updato.com for a stock Canadian 4.1.1 rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529200
Don't flash beyond 4.1.1 until the phone is sim unlocked.
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when i search for "i747m" on updato.com, the only 4.1.1 firmware they list is
GALAXY S III (Canada) SGH-I747M 4.1.1 December 21, 12 Puerto Rico (PCT) I747MUMBLL1
is that one suitable, being "region/carrier = puerto rico" or do i NEED rogers carrier?
Is your phone still locked to Rogers?
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Is your phone still locked to Rogers?
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i have not tried the unlock yet (because of the carrier/region question) but yes i believe it is locked to rogers.
i guess i don't really understand what the differences are on my phone -- what they are for.
i believe that the i747 is a different hardware than i474m.
but i don't know if d2att is different HARDWARE than d2can for example.
and the "rogers" part, vs "telus" or "sprint" or whatever. i am guessing that that signifies the PROGRAMMING in the OS or perhaps the FIRMWARE as well -- but not the hardware... but i could be wrong.
when i "unlock" the phone from rogers network, when i dial the "special number," do i need a network connection or is that number something internal to the phone (no rogers network (or any other) needed)? in other words, can i "unlock" my rogers locked phone using the non-rogers firmware upgrade 4.1.1 ?
The hardware for the ATT s3 (d2att) and Rogers/Telus/Bell s3 (d2can) is identical except the US version uses different boot loaders and modem from the Canadian version.
The Sprint and Verizon versions of the s3 are CDMA, not GSM like the ATT and Rogers version.
Neither a network connection, SIM card, or SD card is not needed to use the menu method to unlock the phone. You will need a non-Rogers SIM card to test the phone after it is unlocked. Do not upgrade beyond 4.1.1 until the phone is network unlocked. Upgrading beyond stock 4.1.1 will permanently lock you out of the dialler unlock menu and you will have to buy an unlock code if you want to network unlock the phone.
You can use any 4.1.1 stock ROM from Bell, Telus, Koodo, Rogers, or Fido to access the dialler unlock menu.
Use Odin 3.07 and the original Samsung USB cable to flash the ROM in the PDA slot of Odin.
Make sure you have a backup of your data as things can go wrong during any flash process that may cause you to lose your data.
All of the information I have provided is something that I have personally done. I can provide no guarantee that you won't encounter a problem or brick your phone. Proceed at your own risk.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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yes i have updates! i finally got around to doing this today and...
i updated to 4.1.1 bell stock that you suggested. i used heimdall to do the flash instead of odin using this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Heimdall
other than that i followed your advice to the T
success.
i then did the menu unlock procedure (a few times). i don't know if it worked or not because i am unable to test with a different network sim yet.
i then went to version 4.4.2 from sammobile using heimdall again -- all went well.
i then installed the (for me) non-working lineageos from last week and it now works -- i assume due to the upgraded baseband you suggested. i am able to make and receive calls as normal now.
i then updated to lineageos 14.1 20170904 with gapps nano. and i can report that all is working extremely well.
thank you so much audit13 for working this through with me. i have learned a ton of new stuff, and not a single brick.
thanks again!
That's great news. Thanks for the update.
We're all here to help and learn
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So ive gone ahead rooted my P935 many times now quite simple to do. The question is its a Telus phone i'm with rogers, when i flash the v10f kdz i get origninal GB korean rom fully unlocked phone shows using rogers network. When then doing nitro hd unbrick guide and if i only DD the system.img file to install the att version p930 then do the battery pull factory reset my phone still is network unlocked. What i'm tryin to find out is which .img files baseband firmware etc would control this network lock, since when i tried to flash H!ONO v20c P930 cmw flashable ics leak my phone became network locked again. Ijust cant seem to straighten it all out , information overload .
That's very strange, flashing ROMs should not affect network lock. I'm using Bell P930 on Fido, I've flashed AT&T leak and Bell official ICS and neither have re-locked the phone. As long as the IMEI remains unchanged you should be able to use the original unlock code you received to unlock the phone again.
jekostas said:
That's very strange, flashing ROMs should not affect network lock. I'm using Bell P930 on Fido, I've flashed AT&T leak and Bell official ICS and neither have re-locked the phone. As long as the IMEI remains unchanged you should be able to use the original unlock code you received to unlock the phone again.
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Interesting indeed would it be the v10f .kdz korean somehow. And heres the thing I have recieved no unlock code to unlock. And now am back to running the CM9.1 unlocked working on Rogers Network .
Aha! I figured it out. CM has your Rogers APN preconfigured. The official roms would not lol. I don't know why the SU640 rom was letting you connect. It really shouldn't because your firmware and baseband should be incorrect if you flash it. Anyway, APN has nothing to do with your phone being locked or not
w0095157, are you certain your phone was never carrier unlocked by someone? Did you purchase it brand new in box from a store?
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w0095157, are you certain your phone was never carrier unlocked by someone? Did you purchase it brand new in box from a store?
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brand new in box i swear, telus store,. must be a fluke. but it works id like to find more information on different radios modems, which may change service for me, but i was comparing this to what iphone 4 service was saying side b y side.
Yeah, that makes more sense. Unlock codes are $2 off of eBay, it's worth it just to make sure you don't have any hassles switching between ROMs.
Does LTE work on Rogers when using the Bell unlocked version (P930)?
I know you have to get an LTE Sim card and an LTE enabled plan, but before i buy on eBay and update my plan, i was wondering if the LTE band works on Rogers even if it is a Bell phone.
Yes, i have LTE in my area.
Cheers!
j1paque said:
Does LTE work on Rogers when using the Bell unlocked version (P930)?
I know you have to get an LTE Sim card and an LTE enabled plan, but before i buy on eBay and update my plan, i was wondering if the LTE band works on Rogers even if it is a Bell phone.
Yes, i have LTE in my area.
Cheers!
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I don't live in Canada, but from what I'm able to find online, Rogers and Bell are using compatible LTE frequencies so it should work just fine.
It works!!!
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So ive gone ahead rooted my P935 many times now quite simple to do....
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So after trying million and 1 things I made it work! Baseband and firmware go together and I thought they contain the SIM/network lock so i tried changing them, but apparently all the versions i tried were locked too.... so since the Korean version is with unlocked SIM, why not change directly from it to Cyanogen build ??? Because the wifi is not working!!! and since i did not manage to fine how to install in while offline (CM or Clockworkmod) i flashed from the Korean version just the system.img and voila! I have unlocked SIM with working WIFI ... so putting CM after this was a breeze!
so:
1. flash to Korean V10F_00.kdz
2. root the phone
3.adb shell
su
dd if=/sdcard/system.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p27
should have unlocked SIM + everything else working on the ATT version which you can now install Clockworkmod and go for Cyanogen mod of your choice. i did cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-p930.zip - works great!
I have a p930 with at&t permanent locked network, I discovered too that the baseband of the korean version is unlocked, I made a thread about this but nobody commented or cared i think lol, you can install any rom you want but remove the baseband of the rom before install.
Dreven said:
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So after trying million and 1 things I made it work! Baseband and firmware go together and I thought they contain the SIM/network lock so i tried changing them, but apparently all the versions i tried were locked too.... so since the Korean version is with unlocked SIM, why not change directly from it to Cyanogen build ??? Because the wifi is not working!!! and since i did not manage to fine how to install in while offline (CM or Clockworkmod) i flashed from the Korean version just the system.img and voila! I have unlocked SIM with working WIFI ... so putting CM after this was a breeze!
so:
1. flash to Korean V10F_00.kdz
2. root the phone
3.adb shell
su
dd if=/sdcard/system.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p27
should have unlocked SIM + everything else working on the ATT version which you can now install Clockworkmod and go for Cyanogen mod of your choice. i did cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-p930.zip - works great!
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Ok I have a similar problem with an at&t Lp 930, did the unbrick guide to sim unlock with the korean baseband. While in the koream ROM sim was succesfully unlocked. But after following the guide, flashing to AT&T Gingerbread and installing ClockWork Mod, I flashed it to HO!NO! AT&T ICS CWM Flashable ROM once in ICS, I lost Sim Unlock and was back to: Network Locked on Phone.
So what your saying is to basically only flash the system.img after the korean ROM is on the phone and ignore the other images, then after flash to desired ROM with CWM?
And if so, if I flashed to HO!NO! At&t flash, would I still have Locked Network?
Thank You
vagrant00 said:
Ok I have a similar problem with an at&t Lp 930, did the unbrick guide to sim unlock with the korean baseband. While in the koream ROM sim was succesfully unlocked. But after following the guide, flashing to AT&T Gingerbread and installing ClockWork Mod, I flashed it to HO!NO! AT&T ICS CWM Flashable ROM once in ICS, I lost Sim Unlock and was back to: Network Locked on Phone.
So what your saying is to basically only flash the system.img after the korean ROM is on the phone and ignore the other images, then after flash to desired ROM with CWM?
And if so, if I flashed to HO!NO! At&t flash, would I still have Locked Network?
Thank You
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replace everything but the baseband, that is how I did
How do I unlock the phone? I currently have Cm11 on it.
I want to ditch rogers (terrible service) so what do I need to do to unlock it?
side note, when I got the phone it was via future-shop warranty and they gave me a fido version and put my rogers sim in it, did they unlock it then?
SpacePotato said:
How do I unlock the phone? I currently have Cm11 on it.
I want to ditch rogers (terrible service) so what do I need to do to unlock it?
side note, when I got the phone it was via future-shop warranty and they gave me a fido version and put my rogers sim in it, did they unlock it then?
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Since Fido is really owned by Rogers, your Rogers SIM may work in the phone if it was originally locked to Fido. To check whether it's unlocked or not, try putting in a non-compatible SIM (like Bell or Telus) and see whether it prompts you for an unlock code. If it does, you would need to purchase a code online or request one from the carrier. If it wasn't on Android 4.3 prior to the CM11 installation, you may be able to install stock Android 4.1.1 and free unlock. Either way, whether you are free unlocking or using an unlock code, you have to be on a stock ROM for it work. You can check your phone's settings and see what baseband and bootloader versions you have. This will tell us know whether you should flash stock 4.1.1 or 4.3
Larry2999 said:
Since Fido is really owned by Rogers, your Rogers SIM may work in the phone if it was originally locked to Fido. To check whether it's unlocked or not, try putting in a non-compatible SIM (like Bell or Telus) and see whether it prompts you for an unlock code. If it does, you would need to purchase a code online or request one from the carrier. If it wasn't on Android 4.3 prior to the CM11 installation, you may be able to install stock Android 4.1.1 and free unlock. Either way, whether you are free unlocking or using an unlock code, you have to be on a stock ROM for it work. You can check your phone's settings and see what baseband and bootloader versions you have. This will tell us know whether you should flash stock 4.1.1 or 4.3
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Baseband is I747MVLUEMK5 bootloader I have no idea, I just used odin to flash CWM.
I'm open to flashing 4.1 to get a free unlock then going back to CM11
SpacePotato said:
Baseband is I747MVLUEMK5 bootloader I have no idea, I just used odin to flash CWM.
I'm open to flashing 4.1 to get a free unlock then going back to CM11
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I747MVLUEMK5 is ver. 4.3 and you almost certainly have the 4.3 bootloader as well. With this, unfortunately, you can't downgrade to 4.1.1 where the free unlock option is available as any attempt to do this could brick your phone. You would need to request an unlock code from the carrier, if eligible, or purchase one online. There have been reports also that the unlock codes don't work when you are on a custom ROM so if you buy one online and it doesn't work, you will have to flash stock 4.3.
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I747MVLUEMK5 is ver. 4.3 and you almost certainly have the 4.3 bootloader as well. With this, unfortunately, you can't downgrade to 4.1.1 where the free unlock option is available as any attempt to do this could brick your phone. You would need to request an unlock code from the carrier, if eligible, or purchase one online. There have been reports also that the unlock codes don't work when you are on a custom ROM so if you buy one online and it doesn't work, you will have to flash stock 4.3.
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ok, which carrier would I have to talk to, it was a fido phone as mentioned previously. Also is their a possibility I could downgrade to 4.1, or is it a guaranteed brick?
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ok, which carrier would I have to talk to, it was a fido phone as mentioned previously. Also is their a possibility I could downgrade to 4.1, or is it a guaranteed brick?
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You would need to contact Fido since it was originally on their network. I'm afraid nobody has yet posted a method to allow you successfully downgrade to 4.1.1 and still preserve the free unlock functionality. You could follow some instructions posted in this forum to downgrade to 4.1.1. However, this wouldn't allow you downgrade the bootloader/modem which is required for the unlock.
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You would need to contact Fido since it was originally on their network. I'm afraid nobody has yet posted a method to allow you successfully downgrade to 4.1.1 and still preserve the free unlock functionality. You could follow some instructions posted in this forum to downgrade to 4.1.1. However, this wouldn't allow you downgrade the bootloader/modem which is required for the unlock.
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ok thanks.
Larry2999 said:
I747MVLUEMK5 is ver. 4.3 and you almost certainly have the 4.3 bootloader as well. With this, unfortunately, you can't downgrade to 4.1.1 where the free unlock option is available as any attempt to do this could brick your phone. You would need to request an unlock code from the carrier, if eligible, or purchase one online. There have been reports also that the unlock codes don't work when you are on a custom ROM so if you buy one online and it doesn't work, you will have to flash stock 4.3.
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I found a way to downgrade from 4.3 to 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 stock. (for Bell).
I bought and used Mobile Odin (available on the play store). Anyhow, it flashes the stock rom and not the old bootloaders. Once you're on 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 the problem is that *#197328640# no longer works. Basically when you type that ServiceMode comes up, but all the options are gone. I believe this is because they locked those features on the new bootloader (which is still on the phone after the Mobile Odin downgrade...)
Unlocking this phone has become a major pain in the ass.
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I found a way to downgrade from 4.3 to 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 stock. (for Bell).
I bought and used Mobile Odin (available on the play store). Anyhow, it flashes the stock rom and not the old bootloaders. Once you're on 4.1.1 or 4.0.4 the problem is that *#197328640# no longer works. Basically when you type that ServiceMode comes up, but all the options are gone. I believe this is because they locked those features on the new bootloader (which is still on the phone after the Mobile Odin downgrade...)
Unlocking this phone has become a major pain in the ass.
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You are quite right. Sam and the networks are winning this time. You can indeed use Mobile Odin to downgrade the system (ROM). However, there hasn't been any reports of a successful downgrade of the bootloader. Therefore, even if you downgrade without bricking the phone, you can't free unlock. Tough but you will need a carrier unlock code.
Hiya,
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3 locked to Bell, and I have installed Cyanogenmod 11.
I'd like to unlock it and give it to a friend.
My questions are:
1. If I unlock this phone, will it work with Zoomer Mobile? It's a subsidiary of Rogers. I would imagine it would work, I just want to make sure.
2. I've read somewhere that Cyanogenmod causes problems with unlocking, is that true? Will I have to go back to stock firmware in order to unlock it, then go back to CM11?
3. I can't seem to find any information about unlocking through Cyanogenmod... anyone have a link to a guide of some sort?
Thanks in advance for any help!
am pretty sure you have to be on stock firmware to use free unlock method. will try to search around with for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2829415
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2922478
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2880571
err on the side of kindness
Tell us the bootloader version on your phone.
Once unlocked, it will run on all carriers except wind and mobilicity.
audit13 said:
Tell us the bootloader version on your phone.
Once unlocked, it will run on all carriers except wind and mobilicity.
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Thanks, thats great to know! My bootloader version is I747MVLUEMK5.
Thanks for all the links mrrocketdog, looks like everything I need to start unlocking!
Since you are on the MK5 bootloader, you will have to flash back to stock, purchase an unlock code, unlock the phone, and flash back to your custom ROM.
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Since you are on the MK5 bootloader, you will have to flash back to stock, purchase an unlock code, unlock the phone, and flash back to your custom ROM.
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Which version of stock, though? I can't remember what the phone came with since it was so long ago... I think it was something like 4.1 , but I'm not sure. Since I've since updated to 4.3/4.4, I'm also worried about bricking my device, because I've heard that flashing earlier roms with newer bootloaders can do that.
Which version of stock should I go with then? Thanks in advance!
Confirm that you have an i747m with mk5 bootloader and baseband. This can be done by using the Play app called Samsung Phone Info.
The stock i747m firmware is available on sammobile.com. Just search for the Bell sgh-i747m 4.3 ROM. You can flash it using Odin. Do NOT check anything except auto reboot and F.reset time. I recommend using Odin 3.07 and backing up your important data to your computer as flashing with Odin will wipe your phone.
I Used To Own A Tmobile S3 Which I Enjoyed Using Custom Roms Like Cm 12, LiquidSmooth 4.1 And Pac Rom Just To Name A Few And The Lcd Broke . So One Of My Friend Is Selling Me A Used At&t S3 On Stock 4.4.2 For Quite Cheap. But My Problem Is ( Correct Me If Im Wrong) I Think I Read An Article Stating That You Cannot Use Custom Roms On S3s On Stock 4.4.2 Or It Will Brick It . Is This Correct ? An S3 Serves No Purpose To Me On Stock TOUCHWIZ . So Is It Possible To Root And Flash Custom Roms On S3s On OFFICIAL STOCK 4.4.2 TOUCHWIZ ?
Jaii_Versace said:
I Used To Own A Tmobile S3 Which I Enjoyed Using Custom Roms Like Cm 12, LiquidSmooth 4.1 And Pac Rom Just To Name A Few And The Lcd Broke . So One Of My Friend Is Selling Me A Used At&t S3 On Stock 4.4.2 For Quite Cheap. But My Problem Is ( Correct Me If Im Wrong) I Think I Read An Article Stating That You Cannot Use Custom Roms On S3s On Stock 4.4.2 Or It Will Brick It . Is This Correct ? An S3 Serves No Purpose To Me On Stock TOUCHWIZ . So Is It Possible To Root And Flash Custom Roms On S3s On OFFICIAL STOCK 4.4.2 TOUCHWIZ ?
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The bootloader is not locked on the AT&T S3 (I747). You can use Odin to flash a custom recovery and flash any ROMs for d2att/d2lte you want. No unlocking required. It is a pretty modder friendly phone.
The thing you cannot do on the newer bootloaders is downgrade the bootloader. Attempts to downgrade anything beyond the 4.3 bootloader will result in a hard brick. This also prevents you from using the free sim unlocking method because it involves a firmware downgrade to 4.1. If you need to sim unlock the phone to use it on a different network you'll have to get a code from AT&T (they should provide one since a phone this old just about has to be off contract) or purchase one from a third party.
Jaii_Versace said:
... I Think I Read An Article Stating That You Cannot Use Custom Roms On S3s On Stock 4.4.2 Or It Will Brick It . Is This Correct ?... So Is It Possible To Root And Flash Custom Roms On S3s On OFFICIAL STOCK 4.4.2 TOUCHWIZ ?
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I concur with @jason2678
I have an AT&T SGS3 (d2att/i747) that is on the NE4 bootloader and modem (4.4.2) and am running CM11 atm. As a matter of fact, none of the CM or AOSP roms since late in 4.4.2 development will run unless you are on one of the 4.4.2 bootloaders (NE4, NJ1, NJ2)
What you stated, quoted above, is true for the Verizon SGS3 (d2vzw/i535).
jason2678 said:
The bootloader is not locked on the AT&T S3 (I747). You can use Odin to flash a custom recovery and flash any ROMs for d2att/d2lte you want. No unlocking required. It is a pretty modder friendly phone.
The thing you cannot do on the newer bootloaders is downgrade the bootloader. Attempts to downgrade anything beyond the 4.3 bootloader will result in a hard brick. This also prevents you from using the free sim unlocking method because it involves a firmware downgrade to 4.1. If you need to sim unlock the phone to use it on a different network you'll have to get a code from AT&T (they should provide one since a phone this old just about has to be off contract) or purchase one from a third party.
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Hello I am new here and could you please tell me the status of my phone since the phone does not provide me with option to enter unlock code after I inserted other carrier SIM.
I already have my unlock code given by AT&T.
I have CWM custom recovery installed
My phone info from Samsung Phone info Apps is
Bootloader version : I747UCUEMJB
PDA Version : I747UCUFNE4
CSC Version : I747ATTFNE4
Baseband Version : I747UCUEMJB
I have searched and tried with service mode method *#197328640# without success
Is Sim unlock related to bootloader
Thanks
car2carl said:
Hello I am new here and could you please tell me the status of my phone since the phone does not provide me with option to enter unlock code after I inserted other carrier SIM.
I already have my unlock code given by AT&T.
I have CWM custom recovery installed
My phone info from Samsung Phone info Apps is
Bootloader version : I747UCUEMJB
PDA Version : I747UCUFNE4
CSC Version : I747ATTFNE4
Baseband Version : I747UCUEMJB
I have searched and tried with service mode method *#197328640# without success
Is Sim unlock related to bootloader
Thanks
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It appears that you have an NE4/Android4.4.2/KitKat rom installed over 4.3 bootloader and modem. I have seen several custom TouchWiz roms that run fine with this setup as long as one of a couple of custom kernels were installed. CM and AOSP roms will also run in this condition. BUT, from what I have read you will not be able to use the unlock codes. My reading indicates that you must be on complete stock ROM for the code to work, including stock recovery instead of CWM. ALSO, what I have read says that you only gt five attempts before the code becomes invalid.
I don't know why your phone is not asking for the unlock code, unless it has already been carrier unlocked. Even thouhg it is not asking for the code, does it function as it should?
Frequently the service modes do not work on custom roms, even TW based ones, because they are not using the stock dialers. I have also seen it reported that some were disabled with the 4.3 update and others in more recent updates.
Proceed carefully.
You may be able to enter the unlock code if the phone is running a stock dialler with a matching bootloader and modem combination.
dawgdoc said:
It appears that you have an NE4/Android4.4.2/KitKat rom installed over 4.3 bootloader and modem. I have seen several custom TouchWiz roms that run fine with this setup as long as one of a couple of custom kernels were installed. CM and AOSP roms will also run in this condition. BUT, from what I have read you will not be able to use the unlock codes. My reading indicates that you must be on complete stock ROM for the code to work, including stock recovery instead of CWM. ALSO, what I have read says that you only gt five attempts before the code becomes invalid.
I don't know why your phone is not asking for the unlock code, unless it has already been carrier unlocked. Even thouhg it is not asking for the code, does it function as it should?
Frequently the service modes do not work on custom roms, even TW based ones, because they are not using the stock dialers. I have also seen it reported that some were disabled with the 4.3 update and others in more recent updates.
Proceed carefully.
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Thanks for respond
I had this phone since 3 years ago (new from ATT) and rooted stock rom with CWM 6.0.4.7 recovery touch . and I remember that I could unlocked through SERVICE MODE when I was overseas. ( sure I had used this phone with Other carrier) about 1 year ago I put this phone in my drawer I did factory reset and installed Stock firmware and update OTA to 4.3.
Last week I want to use this phone with Tmobile SIM but got Phone Not Allowed MM#6 message . The rom was still 4.3, Contact AT&T and got Unlock code.
but this phone didn't ask for unlock code entry option and still 4.3 , tried the whole weekend with service mode and upgrade to 4.4.2 via CWM recovery.
and still no luck
With your suggestion , it means that I don't have choice to downgrade back to 4.3 rom same with my bootloader and baseband? I heard we can't downgrade if we already in 4.4.2 , is that true?
But I still use stock recovery from CWM.
Before I proceed with replacing with stock recovery, is the stock recovery have to be 4.3 stock recovery or any version for S3? do I need to use odin to change to stock recovery?
if you have good link please help?
Thanks again
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audit13 said:
You may be able to enter the unlock code if the phone is running a stock dialler with a matching bootloader and modem combination.
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Stock dialer means the entire Rom must be replaced to match my bootloader and modem combination or just replace the dialer in my case and still use 4.4.2?
Appreciated if you can help, thanks
Stock dialler requires a stock Samsung kernel.
From what I am seeing, you are on the 4.3 bootloader and modem. As I said before, there are custom TouchWiz 4.4.2 Roms that will run on the 4.3 bootloader and modem. Changing to a 4.3 rom, stock or otherwise, therefore would not be downgrading your bootloader and modem.
What rom are you on?
Some of the custom TouchWiz roms use dialers from the S5, therefore not stock for the S3.
Some of the custom TouchWiz Roms use the stock kernel, some use a custom kernel.
Did you flash a custom kernel?
What is your kernel version? (check under Settings > About Phone)
With the answers to the questions I asked, audit13 and I may be able to give more definite guidance. It could be as simple as flashing the stock kernel and a stock dialer. But, I can't tell at the moment.
car2carl said:
Thanks for respond
I had this phone since 3 years ago (new from ATT) and rooted stock rom with CWM 6.0.4.7 recovery touch . and I remember that I could unlocked through SERVICE MODE when I was overseas. ( sure I had used this phone with Other carrier) about 1 year ago I put this phone in my drawer I did factory reset and installed Stock firmware and update OTA to 4.3.
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Are you saying you unlocked it before? If so it should still be unlocked. Flashing/wiping won't affect that, so it's pretty much a permanent thing. If so, maybe the Sim card you're using is an older one? they don't always work on tmobiles networks.
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Are you saying you unlocked it before? If so it should still be unlocked. Flashing/wiping won't affect that, so it's pretty much a permanent thing. If so, maybe the Sim card you're using is an older one? they don't always work on tmobiles networks.
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audit13, dawgdoc, DocHoliday77
Thank you for your responses , Sorry I couldn't response any sooner as I worked in mountain/forest area that browsing the web is luxury
(yes I remember for sure I have used this cell phone overseas couple times and the way I unlocked through service mode. Way before AT&T OTA update since new)
I have weird situation that make me wondering if I had unlocked my S3 since message
"PHONE NOT ALLOWED MM#6" comes up if I use any other carrier beside AT&T
Per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
thanks to OP
I just managed to change my bootloader to I747UCUFNE4 and also my baseband version to I747UCUFNE4
I still keep my CWM 6.0.4.7 recovery touch
I have Flashed with countless other rom such below:
I747UCUFNE4_Stock_Rooted_Odex.zip
I747UCUFNE4_Stock_Rooted_Deodex_3-31-15.zip
I747UCUFNE4_Stock_Rooted_3-31-15.zip
and even custom rom without any success
This was happened with my S3 after flash.
if I flashed with inserted active SIM Card (T Mobile or foreign SIM Card)
I will see PHONE NOT ALLOWED MM#6 after reboot
if I flashed without any SIM Card inserted after reboot :
- inserted foreign sim card and reboot again
I will have AT&T as roaming provider and for about few seconds received text message about fee from SIM issuer roaming to AT&T so means My S3 is unlocked...
(no... not so much!!!) in few minute I will have "PHONE NOT ALLOWED MM#6" and phone is useless as emergency only.
- inserted T-Mobile Sim Card and reboot again it shows "PHONE NOT ALLOWED MM#6" immediately
My Kernel Version :
3.4.0-1514807
[email protected] #1
Mon May 19 21:00:05 KST 2014
Thank you if you can help.
So you are not getting asked enter a network unlock code when running a stock rom with a foreign sim?
Does your provider use aws frequencies? The i747 does not natively support T-Mobile aws frequencies.
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So you are not getting asked enter a network unlock code when running a stock rom with a foreign sim?
Does your provider use aws frequencies? The i747 does not natively support T-Mobile aws frequencies.
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No, It doesn't ask at all. just pop up "Phone not allowed MM#6."
my foreign SIM is ok.
I tested on Galaxy Note 4 T-Mo (unlocked) it grabbed ATT roaming,
tested on Iphone 4S (ATT-unlocked) it grabbed Tmobile roaming:laugh:
I just flashed stock recovery and still no go..
do I need to unroot?
Can I flash stock root rom with stock recovery
Thanks
What rom was on the phone when you inserted a foreign sim?
If you are running a Samsung rom, try this:
Www.unlockriver.com/Samsung-unlocking
I am using I747UCUFNE4_Stock_Rooted_3-31-15.zip
I just replaced CWM recovery with UCUFNE4 stock recovery
I did unroot with SuperSU and also
do factory setting through setting menu
basically my phone just as new factory setting but with UCUFNE4
the funny thing is :System Status: Custom is this related I have rooted this device before?
When I turn on bootloader mode (Odin Mode)
product name : SGH-I747
Current Binary: Samsung Official
System Status: Custom
Qualcomm secure boot : enable
warranty bit: 1
bootloader ap Swrev: 3
as I have stated at my 1st post that I had official unlock code from AT&T and got email from them the unlock PIN
but there is no option asking to key in the PIN with other carrier sim inserted .
I have checked also with Swappa esn check
and result is
Blacklisted => Not Indicated
This device does not appear to be globally blacklisted.
spent countless hours just to beat solving this device and read the threads and no result. And still "PHONE NOT ALLOWED MM#6"
My friend's AT&T Galaxy S3 (SGH-I747) was unlocked at 4.1.1 stock and now I installed Resurrection Remix (7.1.1). Now when I insert my sim there is no network but it recognises that there's a SIM but no carrier or whatsoever
Is my phone now locked or unlocked?
I live in India
Baseband - I747UCDLK3
Bootloader - I747UCDLK3
I have to return the phone by 10th March
I'm a novice, however in my experience once the phone is unlocked it stays unlocked no matter what rom you install. Perhaps another rom may work better in your situation. LineageOS seem to work well for my needs (with unlocked phone) and you should give it (or others) a try.
You may have lost the IMEI and will have to ODIN back to stock to try to get it back. Also, you can search for IMEI in the forums.
Check in about phone status under settings to confirm you lost the IMEI before all this.
I would flash it back to stock 4.1.1 from Sammobile.com with Odin.
7.1.1 roms will require the latest bootloader and modem to work.
It may be too late now but your main reason for lack of success is your "bootloader_modem" you are currently 5 or 6 places behind the latest release! Its very old and these ROMs require the latest bootloaders: I747UCUFNJ2 for Android version 4.4.2. Check out "enewmam17" threads on XDA for how-to and links to .zip files. Hope this is not too late to help in any case it's good for future reference.
Edit: added a link : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/general/ucuemjb-to-ucufne4-firmware-update-t2808654