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Hi all,
I have searched forum regarding photo quality, and i have seen recommendations like removing plastic(CCD shield) from the back of the phone, but i am not interested in mechanical modifications.
is there any difference in picture quality when taking photos with various HTC Desire(bravo) roms?.....or all of them output same JPG quality compression?.
Thank you in advance
Personally, did not notice any difference.
Only that the audio recording is miles better with videos on HD Roms (default camera app).
Sent from my customized HTC Desire using TTP
thanks for the response mate,
so your recommendation would be HD rom to Regular HTC desire, because of improved audio quality.
Any particular rom in your experience you noticed better audio?
cheers
When the early HD/Z ROMs came out and I flashed them, I seemed to have at least some camera quality issues with my device, especially in low light situations. However, the overall quality was still good. Not great, but more than acceptable.
I think if there was indeed an issue with the camera, it has in the meantime been fixed - and indeed with my current Z ROM I don't notice any difference at all. I use Cool Z.
Have fun
was the quality better than with stock HTC rom?
btw: low light situations require you to change to higher ISO level, but that is a trade off, because you will get more noise in the photo....i always try to take a shoot with ISO 100, when possible.
dado023 said:
thanks for the response mate,
so your recommendation would be HD rom to Regular HTC desire, because of improved audio quality.
Any particular rom in your experience you noticed better audio?
cheers
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Insertcoin for sure, but all HD/Z ROM ports should have it. But strangely it does not affect the 720p recording (still sh*tty sound). Checked my mate's DHD - same issue, every other option records with great sound, but 720p is 8khz mono.
Recommend using LGCamera if you want to shoot in 720p with HQ audio.
can i get 720p recording at 30fps on desire
i m tired of this **** never gives above 10-15 fps
in day time in bright light it might give 20-24fps....but still audio is out of sync and **** like tht
i know desire reduces frame rate to prevent picture from turning grainyin low light especially at night.
even under bright tubelights i get 10fps nothing more than that.
also light constantly keeps on flickering...the light sensors further reduce the frame rate
bad thing is that even after 1.5 yrs after the release of desire....HTC didnt do anything to fix this in the gingerbread
i have tried stuff like setting ISO to 800 and increasing exposure levels to increase fps but still its not good enough
some of th expert developers out here have been able to do the impossible and bring stuff on the desire which is unbelievable...
but i seem to find no one who has been able to fix the camera on desire...
plz guys look into this....
can the camera app be tweaked to make it record at constant 30fps...
can the variable fps be fixed .
i dont care if quality drops or not....coz who cares if u get quality which is not watching
i dont mind grainy images but i want 30fps....can the developers do some tweaking/??coz i know the hardware is there to handle
do this:
-change the desire camera with a better one
-change the desire gpu with a better one
-write the correct drivers and kernel to handle the news parts
and thats it...
or just keep in mind this phone is not capable to make great hd video.
so u say its a hardware problem????
also is the hardware on other HTC phones like sensation and desire S the same???
I heard these phones also suffer from same bad fps in low light problem
Desire S - has Newer SoC, Single 1Ghz CPU, but Adreno 205 GPU - it makes very good 720p videos, but with lower FPS (but not below 23 in low light) - My roommate has it and it is miles better, than my Desire.
The Sensation has even newer SoC - Dual-core 1.2 GHz and Adreno 220 GPU - I tested my collegues device, and it had no struggles even with 1080p in low light.
that you have an hardware problem is my opinion, too
danielluib said:
that you have an hardware problem is my opinion, too
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Like everyone with this device.
so is it worth upgrading???
i am looking forward to HTC amaze...
I hope it doesnt suffer from lower fps problem
(also fps not lower than 23fps in low light does not sound bad)
now i am confused whether I should go for droid RAZR,galaxy S2 or galaxy nexus...
i liked HTC for HTC sense...now with all these devices receiving Ice cream sandwich....
i am thinking UI will be same for all....so confused
You can try the recording on cyanogenmod 7. I think the 720p framerate is a bit better.
Hi
I want to buy LG G3 32GB version that has 3GB RAM
please help me out with my problem here my priorities are :
1. best performance for gaming
2. best sound + screen quality for watching movies
3. best camera for scanning documents + taking pictures
4. ideal development state
5. best battery lifetime
but before all of these I want the longest and best lifetime a device can offer cause im gonna have this phone for about 2 years till i change it again.
so based on my priorities and the fact that i will most definitely root and use custom kernel/roms and tweaks can this device offer me the best lifetime and least issues !?
Does it heat up really bad when playing games and recording with camera with the new updates and etc ?
How is the camera quality ?
How is the sound and audio quality ?
Are there any real issues with screen and its battery drain and heating up ?
Are there issues that I must be concerned with before buying ?
Zspitter said:
Does it heat up really bad when playing games and recording with camera with the new updates and etc ?
How is the camera quality ?
How is the sound and audio quality ?
Are there any real issues with screen and its battery drain and heating up ?
Are there issues that I must be concerned with before buying ?
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It does, but not that bad. Then thermal control kicks and the lag becomes noticeable.
Great camera, but only in stock roms.
Sound clear, but not to loud.
Some units have to much glue and yellow spots appear on screen. Most are fine. Amazing screen with great viewing angles and natural, desaturated colors.
Before buying this or another phone, remember that lollipop is a mess right now. Multitasking is awful. There are some important bugs in g3's lollipop.
You should read through this forum, because everything you asked is actively debated.
If money is no problem, then G4 might be better for you.
Hey M5 user,
Could you provide your personal opinion on this device or probably a review, stating the pros and cons and expecting future updates and improvement.
So as to help me potential M5 buyer make the decision to purchase this phone.
Hello,
What? I thought you have it already
Here,
Best newly developed 21mp fastest camera, its true. The front 13mp camera is also awesome. You can use both cameras in one photo. You can say the camera is 2nd in line after the Z5 premium's camera. 4k video recording is awesome. If you are adding a memory card, get a very high speed memory card like samsung evo+ or Samsung Pro, which will help you take longer 4k videos, and the operations wont heat the device.
The brightness of the screen is very balanced. By adjusting the brightness from low to High, it wont loose any colors and contrast. just adjust according to your light conditions.
The sound(which is not specified anywhere on the official website) is best, like other premium Xperias.
Bluetooth, WiFi, network very fast.
Calling experience is awesome. You wont hear any surrounding disturbances through the microphone.
There are a some preloaded apps like Kindle, Linkedin etc that you will have to remove if you dont use.
The battery drain is an issue. We will have to wait for root unlocking of the boot loader and take total control over it. But the Stamina mode is awesome. just drains 1/2% or 1% of battery over night in stamina mode. It didn't even allow Google Play Services to load in the background. Then there is a Ultra Stamina mode which disables more features so seriously that it has to restart the phone when you deactivate it. It comes with the same 850mah charger that came with the old phones like xperia Tipo. You will need to get fast charger if you dont want to wait for 3.5 hours for charging(from 0% to 100%). Even a small portable power bank cuts down the charging time to less than 2.5 hours.
Good thing is they are no more selling our privacy to Facebook. They have pre-installed Facebook but it is removable, and no other facebook junk apps and widgets. If you remove facebook, make sure you also disable the 'Xperia for Facebook' background process.
Well if this is your budget, then xperia M5 is best for you. or else get z5 for much higher budget.
Will let you know after finding out more goodies in it.
Ketansa said:
Hello,
What? I thought you have it already
Here,
Best newly developed 21mp fastest camera, its true. The front 13mp camera is also awesome. You can use both cameras in one photo. You can say the camera is 2nd in line after the Z5 premium's camera. 4k video recording is awesome. If you are adding a memory card, get a very high speed memory card like samsung evo+ or Samsung Pro, which will help you take longer 4k videos, and the operations wont heat the device.
The brightness of the screen is very balanced. By adjusting the brightness from low to High, it wont loose any colors and contrast. just adjust according to your light conditions.
The sound(which is not specified anywhere on the official website) is best, like other premium Xperias.
Bluetooth, WiFi, network very fast.
Calling experience is awesome. You wont hear any surrounding disturbances through the microphone.
There are a some preloaded apps like Kindle, Linkedin etc that you will have to remove if you dont use.
The battery drain is an issue. We will have to wait for root unlocking of the boot loader and take total control over it. But the Stamina mode is awesome. just drains 1/2% or 1% of battery over night in stamina mode. It didn't even allow Google Play Services to load in the background. Then there is a Ultra Stamina mode which disables more features so seriously that it has to restart the phone when you deactivate it. It comes with the same 850mah charger that came with the old phones like xperia Tipo. You will need to get fast charger if you dont want to wait for 3.5 hours for charging(from 0% to 100%). Even a small portable power bank cuts down the charging time to less than 2.5 hours.
Good thing is they are no more selling our privacy to Facebook. They have pre-installed Facebook but it is removable, and no other facebook junk apps and widgets. If you remove facebook, make sure you also disable the 'Xperia for Facebook' background process.
Well if this is your budget, then xperia M5 is best for you. or else get z5 for much higher budget.
Will let you know after finding out more goodies in it.
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Thank you Ketansa for sharing, i experienced lag when taking photo with the demo unit. Please advise do you still encounter it when taking photo using your device.
If you are coming from Samsung I think the camera can be considered laggy, I come from Nexus 5, so the camera experience is much better for me on this phone. And with the 1.33 update, the PDAF seems more consistent. So I am overall happy with the camera, there's some flare issue though which I need to test more. There's too much haze around this area now so I don't have a good way to test the camera.
I am also trying out to figure out the battery issue manually. I have:
1. Whatsapp
2. Hangouts
3. LG G Watch
4. WiFi always on
5. Mobile Data Always on
Then I turned off/uninstalled the following:
1. Facebook
2. Facebook Messenger
3. Google Fit
4. Google Now
5. Location History
6. Auto-Sync (I only enable this when charging).
Quite happy with the battery, I will still have like 60% battery after 14 hours off charger, with around 1.5 hours screen on time.
Going to try re-enabling the stuffs one by one and see which one is the real battery drain.
what about shutter lag?
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Thank you Ketansa for sharing, i experienced lag when taking photo with the demo unit. Please advise do you still encounter it when taking photo using your device.
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Hello,
No absolutely non-laggy in the final product. And it is the fastest among other brands that I have checked.
There is a new update. It solves the battery issue.
Also turn off the Android System WebView (its a resource and battery hog), you will see much difference.
Shutter lag is still there, for me, before and after the update to 1.33. Basically if you are moving, or the subject is moving, the photo is definitely not taken at the point you press and release the shutter, there's at least a 1 second delay.
More questions, it have support to OTG?,HDMI wired?Stereo speakers?,sound improvements like SDEE,xloud,clear phase,S-force.?.,image improvents like Bravia2,x-reality?,have front flash and dual rear flash ?Antutu Score?
Is the DSEE HX present? Possible to play high resolution audio?
I just brought the phone to repair as I am not able to charge the phone after using it for 2 weeks, the service center help changing hardwares in 3 days (good service), but the whole log of goods seem to have hardware issues, as the CS whisper (loud enough to let me hear) to herself that she getting many users complaint on mobile failures.
Battery have heat issue while charging and discharging imo.
Algebra the Bard
I have the phone for a week and here's my impressions:
My older phone was xperia z2 (it was stolen, that's why i have a m5 now) and seems to me the m5 is quite fast, has a better screen than z2, speakers are louder and the rear camera is obviously great.
The only thing worse comparing to z2 is the battery. But for me the battery phone handles a full day.
After the Z1 and Z2 I can just say I love the M5. I mean, at that price, IP68, fast and fluid, awesome cameras, stylish etc... why go again for a much more expensive Z Series? for the 0,25ms faster shutter and fingeprint reader? Really?
Only downside I see right now is the low participation of Custom Rom ...
jamespmi said:
After the Z1 and Z2 I can just say I love the M5. I mean, at that price, IP68, fast and fluid, awesome cameras, stylish etc... why go again for a much more expensive Z Series? for the 0,25ms faster shutter and fingeprint reader? Really?
Only downside I see right now is the low participation of Custom Rom ...
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Wait a few months and developers will eventually find themselves here.
the kernel of M5 is open sourced, so anyone can do a custom kernel (TWRP)
Kizoky said:
Wait a few months and developers will eventually find themselves here.
the kernel of M5 is open sourced, so anyone can do a custom kernel (TWRP)
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Is the kernel open sourced? I can't find the kernel source on Xperia Open Source Archives.
Is there any prevision of when m5 devices will receive the android 6.0?
aidfarh said:
Is the kernel open sourced? I can't find the kernel source on Xperia Open Source Archives.
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I don't know. You can always ask sony to release the source code to public
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Is there any prevision of when m5 devices will receive the android 6.0?
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good question, z5 devices have not only got MM but they have already received an UPDATE to it as well!!
Not compactible with VR Box or Google Cardboard. :'(
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Hey M5 user,
Could you provide your personal opinion on this device or probably a review, stating the pros and cons and expecting future updates and improvement.
So as to help me potential M5 buyer make the decision to purchase this phone.
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[B']I have got a google cardboard and I was really willing to use with my phone. Sadly sony M series and C series are not compactible with VR effects. :'( [/B]
Hi i loved LG G4 and that it had LG V10 camera ported to it.
Now i understand that different brand and all but is there a way to port LG V10 camera to HTC phone?
Im mainly looking at manual exposure in video mode because even after all these years HTC video recording is terrible because of framerate.
Whenever i record video in lowish light i get like 20 fps video looks terrible and laggy even tho sensor on this phone is big and can do stable 30fps in low light with a little higher iso because i also have LG V10 with smaller sensor and higher resolution which means much smaller pixel and in manual mode in same scene i put video exposure time at 1/30th or even 1/60th with iso at 600 and i get little noise while being buttery smooth.
Now this has been issue with HTC from OG days and is there a mod or port that i dont know about that can let me control exposure in video mode and i dont mind separate app for that since im using gcam for photos and get some of the best pictures ive ever seen on smartphone,even compared to latest smartphones its in top 3 definitely.
Now back to video,ive seen snapdragon camera and other,none of them does anything to video framerate.
Is there a way to set lowest exposure to 1/30th so that phone does not drop framerate do raise exposure and lower iso.
I personally dont mind grainy video in lower light but man recording campfire i dont need nightvision but for some reason phone tries so hard that it blows highlights and gets laggy as hell.
Some config mods,api mods,apk mods anything to adress this issue,i would be alfa tester for some mods if anyone has time to tinker with it,im more of hardware guy,repairing phones and modding cooling,thermal paste and pads mod,etc.
Software? Not my kind of skill.
So if someone else has some advice or existing mod i havent seen yet let me know i would gladly try it.
Sorry for typos or mistakes typing this on a phone without auto correction
Cheers and thanks in advance
xxBeatsByDrDrexx said:
Hi i loved LG G4 and that it had LG V10 camera ported to it.
Now i understand that different brand and all but is there a way to port LG V10 camera to HTC phone?
Im mainly looking at manual exposure in video mode because even after all these years HTC video recording is terrible because of framerate.
Whenever i record video in lowish light i get like 20 fps video looks terrible and laggy even tho sensor on this phone is big and can do stable 30fps in low light with a little higher iso because i also have LG V10 with smaller sensor and higher resolution which means much smaller pixel and in manual mode in same scene i put video exposure time at 1/30th or even 1/60th with iso at 600 and i get little noise while being buttery smooth.
Now this has been issue with HTC from OG days and is there a mod or port that i dont know about that can let me control exposure in video mode and i dont mind separate app for that since im using gcam for photos and get some of the best pictures ive ever seen on smartphone,even compared to latest smartphones its in top 3 definitely.
Now back to video,ive seen snapdragon camera and other,none of them does anything to video framerate.
Is there a way to set lowest exposure to 1/30th so that phone does not drop framerate do raise exposure and lower iso.
I personally dont mind grainy video in lower light but man recording campfire i dont need nightvision but for some reason phone tries so hard that it blows highlights and gets laggy as hell.
Some config mods,api mods,apk mods anything to adress this issue,i would be alfa tester for some mods if anyone has time to tinker with it,im more of hardware guy,repairing phones and modding cooling,thermal paste and pads mod,etc.
Software? Not my kind of skill.
So if someone else has some advice or existing mod i havent seen yet let me know i would gladly try it.
Sorry for typos or mistakes typing this on a phone without auto correction
Cheers and thanks in advance
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Highly doubt anyone is willing to put in the work to port an LG camera app at this stage of the 10 (2015 flagship) but I cannot speak for others.
I also don't really use my camera outside normal shots so I don't have good experience with vid framerate, etc.
I will suggest that you try out the Google camera ports if you haven't already.
I have tried gcam for video but its terrible compared to stock,in gcam video recording i get stuttering an what not.
I know old phone custom development is over.
Also how it that there is no some universal camera that can use those core features available on other phones.
Unless LG uses some sort of asic for camera but i doubt it since LG V10 camera can be ported on other LG phones like G4.
xxBeatsByDrDrexx said:
I have tried gcam for video but its terrible compared to stock,in gcam video recording i get stuttering an what not.
I know old phone custom development is over.
Also how it that there is no some universal camera that can use those core features available on other phones.
Unless LG uses some sort of asic for camera but i doubt it since LG V10 camera can be ported on other LG phones like G4.
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Sorry wish could help more.
Gcam is the best ull see for non-sense ROMs.
There's many ports and settings you've played with that? Like changing from nexus to pixel.
andybones said:
Sorry wish could help more.
Gcam is the best ull see for non-sense ROMs.
There's many ports and settings you've played with that? Like changing from nexus to pixel.
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I have tried other mods and setting but in any case when i pan camera its stuttery on gcam and didnt try gcam in low light tho.
Only thing i need basically is ti limit minimum fps to 30 because it drops to 20 or so in low light and panning from lets say bright window to darker room suddenly video looks blurry and smeared because of shutter speed.
Im on custom rom Leedroid using Elementalx kernel not overcloked or underclocked.
Any ideas what to try,its not professional camera i know and i dont shoot movies with infact i dont shoot maybe 2 times a week short video and i eork ina gaming club where light is dimm and sometimes some promo video needs to be recorded for social media and it looks terrible and overexposed even tho ist dark cause camera is launching shutter speed into the sky to make up for low light.
I used professional camera in full manual mode to record conferences and things like that and shutter speed half of frame time like 30 fps max exposure 1/30th but you put it to 1/60th to make video look smooth as,and only change ISO and aperture to change how bright shot is.
In any case any kernel api config profilesxml file to change that because i have LG V10 and with that things manual camera i can do wonders for video cause at the end of the day best camera is the one that you have with you all the time,amarite?
Thanks for the answer tho u will try some other ports and test just in case i missed something.
I only used apk ports,do i need flashable zip for better and more stable ports?
Any android camera experts out there feel free to add some smart teach heavy solutions.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
Looking now at gcam video it is less smeary but when recording starts it hicups every second or so.
Any setting to change in dev settings of camera?
And sorry for typos in ally posts i type on the go without autocorrect,what can i say i live my life dangerously
xxBeatsByDrDrexx said:
Looking now at gcam video it is less smeary but when recording starts it hicups every second or so.
Any setting to change in dev settings of camera?
And sorry for typos in ally posts i type on the go without autocorrect,what can i say i live my life dangerously
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Not the guy to ask.
Maybe one of these threads after a quick search.
Could be better threads, but thb I've probably used this camera like 30 times max since May/2015 lol so safe to say I don't take many pictures or vie.
Hope this helps.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/google-camera-mods