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[Q] cannot boot into bootloader

when i issue the command adb reboot bootloader it just reboots the tablet it does not boot into bootloader mode.

markboston said:
when i issue the command adb reboot bootloader it just reboots the tablet it does not boot into bootloader mode.
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In the v510 gpe?

sleekmason said:
In the v510 gpe?
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whats v510 gpe?

markboston said:
whats v510 gpe?
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there are two different versions of the gpad tablet. If you didn't buy it through the Google Play Store it is not the GPE.
I am not aware that adb can be used with the bootloader on the regular LG g pad.
the second thread in the general section has information on rooting your lg device.
if you did buy it through the Play Store then make that the first thread.
might I ask what you're trying to do? There may be another way.

ah gpe google play edition of course! i am trying to put a custom reocvery onto it. using a script i found online and it doesn't seem to be working.
sleekmason said:
there are two different versions of the gpad tablet. If you didn't buy it through the Google Play Store it is not the GPE.
I am not aware that adb can be used with the bootloader on the regular LG g pad.
the very first thread in the general section has information on rooting your lg device.
if you did buy it through the Play Store then make that the second thread.
might I ask what you're trying to do? There may be another way.
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markboston said:
ah gpe google play edition of course! i am trying to put a custom reocvery onto it. using a script i found online and it doesn't seem to be working.
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The first thread in general will show you how to accomplish that in both windows and Linux. Where was the other script please?
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markboston said:
ah gpe google play edition of course! i am trying to put a custom reocvery onto it. using a script i found online and it doesn't seem to be working.
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also, if you are using Linux you may follow the first post in my signature below for the fluxbox blog. In there is a complete guide to root your pad from start to finish using Linux as your base.

the second step is to unlock the bootloader. how do i accomplish this?

markboston said:
the second step is to unlock the bootloader. how do i accomplish this?
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are you using Windows or Linux?
you first need to download and install ADB properly on your computer. Then make sure that your device is read by your computer, and then proceed from there. Again, if you are using Linux feel free to follow my signature below if you are using Windows however you will need to definitely follow the guide in general.

right now im on windows. the guide in general is what this post was about. when i type the command adb bootloader reboot to get into the bootloader it just reboots the tablet. is there a way to manual do this?
sleekmason said:
are you using Windows or Linux?
you first need to download and install ADB properly on your computer. Then make sure that your device is read by your computer, and then proceed from there. Again, if you are using Linux feel free to follow my signature below if you are using Windows however you will need to definitely follow the guide in general.
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markboston said:
right now im on windows. the guide in general is what this post was about. when i type the command adb bootloader reboot to get into the bootloader it just reboots the tablet. is there a way to manual do this?
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There is. From a device that is off, plug in your USB cord and then press the power button and the down volume button at the same time. The bootloader screen should come up. I don't know that this works for a locked bootloader.
When you type in "adb devices", you should receive a prompt on your tablet instructing you do accept your computer as an interface. I recommend trying this first. Without adb you stand a good chance of messing up your device.

im not getting a dialog box on the tablet but adb does see the tablet
sleekmason said:
There is. From a device that is off, plug in your USB cord and then press the power button and the down volume button at the same time. The bootloader screen should come up. I don't know that this works for a locked bootloader.
When you type in "adb devices", you should receive a prompt on your tablet instructing you do accept your computer as an interface. I recommend trying this first. Without adb you stand a good chance of messing up your device.
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markboston said:
im not getting a dialog box on the tablet but adb does see the tablet
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do you have USB debugging enabled in developer options on your tablet?

also power and vol down does nothing.
markboston said:
im not getting a dialog box on the tablet but adb does see the tablet
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markboston said:
also power and vol down does nothing.
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yes

i figured out the issue you have to have it in mtp mode.

[Q] No Fast Boot In Power Setting

Hello there
I wanna root my HTC one m8, But i cant find fast boot in power setting...
Anybody can help me on this....

Why would you need that ?

Mr Hofs said:
Why would you need that ?
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I want to root my m8, all tutorial ask untick fast boot....any help to root m8
This some tutorial I watch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaRQoJWWDw

poje84 said:
I want to root my m8, all tutorial ask untick fast boot....any help to root m8
This some tutorial I watch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaRQoJWWDw
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don't watch video's, rather take a good guide here from XDA ! learn adb/fastboot commands and use them wise......if you don't know what you are doing stop it and read up first and full understand what you want to do.
hint :
ADB reboot bootloader

Mr Hofs said:
don't watch video's, rather take a good guide here from XDA ! learn adb/fastboot commands and use them wise......if you don't know what you are doing stop it and read up first and full understand what you want to do.
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ADB reboot bootloader
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Thanks for ur advice bro,anything I need I will post in this post

Fast boot has been removed in Lollipop so if you're running that it won't be there

EddyOS said:
Fast boot has been removed in Lollipop so if you're running that it won't be there
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Yes mine is lollipop,so is it still can be root with the same method or I need to wait???

poje84 said:
Yes mine is lollipop,so is it still can be root with the same method or I need to wait???
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1. Flash TWRP
2. Flash SuperSU ZIP
3. Done

Unticking the "Fast boot" option was a bit unnecessary even before.
Unticking it just prevented folks from getting confused why they couldn't get into bootloader from a "Power off" condition (which with "Fast boot" is really not a true power off, but a deep sleep mode).
If you used any other method, like selecting "Restart" after holding the power button (which is a true reboot) or holding down the Power + Vol up to reboot; those always worked to enter bootloader (by pressing vol down while rebooting).
For all the guides that said to untick "Fast boot" I always just left it on, since I preferred it that way.
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EddyOS said:
Fast boot has been removed in Lollipop so if you're running that it won't be there
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Just noticed myself today, that the option was removed. LP boots pretty speedy anyway!

Need help guys... How to root my m8 phone.. Its lolipop version. Help me fast

Ce_dric said:
Need help guys... How to root my m8 phone.. Its lolipop version. Help me fast
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Search for the superuser.zip from chain fire and flash it in the custom recovery.....
Please do it fast !!!
This is the most easy thing to find out for yourself on how to do it ...... seriously

Mr Hofs said:
Search for the superuser.zip from chain fire and flash it in the custom recovery.....
Please do it fast !!!
This is the most easy thing to find out for yourself on how to do it ...... seriously
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Bro can we be friend in Facebook.. I am going root first time so I'm confused.. Give me ur fb id

Ce_dric said:
Bro can we be friend in Facebook.. I am going root first time so I'm confused.. Give me ur fb id
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Uh no way mate. FB is for my friends not for people i do not know. Sorry.
1: unlock the bootloader
2: flash or boot TWRP custom recovery
3: CREATE A FULL NANDROID BACKUP
4: flash superuser.zip to gain root access
Done
Have a read here. Many people don't want to invest in reading carefully but want to be spoon fed ...... got to do some homework buddy.

Restore!
poje84 said:
Hello there
I wanna root my HTC one m8, But i cant find fast boot in power setting...
Anybody can help me on this....
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In the last update (lollipop) the fast boot option is disabled. So all you can do is backup your stuff and factory reset your phone so it will go back to the previous update where fast boot option is available.

eam55028 said:
In the last update (lollipop) the fast boot option is disabled. So all you can do is backup your stuff and factory reset your phone so it will go back to the previous update where fast boot option is available.
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You do realize the post you responded to is a year and a half old, correct?

xunholyx said:
You do realize the post you responded to is a year and a half old, correct?
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Absolutely, but i just came across a spare phone to root which turns out to be an m8 with 6.0.

eam55028 said:
In the last update (lollipop) the fast boot option is disabled. So all you can do is backup your stuff and factory reset your phone so it will go back to the previous update where fast boot option is available.
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This information is false, for more reason that one (see below). If you bothered to read a thread, I already explained it above in Post #9.
1) The only thing the "fast boot" power option (in Settings) prevented, was going to bootloader from a "power off" condition, as in this case, the phone isn't truly powered off (just a deep sleep state). But you can still get to booloader with a REBOOT, which is always a true reboot; even with "fast boot" power setting enabled.
2) With the "fast boot" power option gone, Item 1 above is irrelevant. The absence of this option in fact makes it easier to get to bootloader, not harder. This is not related to the Android fastboot/adb interface, if that is part of the confusion (as the name is practically the same).
3) Your advice about doing a factory reset is false, as a factory reset does not return you to a former OS version (despite somewhat popular misconception). All factory reset does, is delete user data. Plus, what you advise is completely unnecessary due to Item 2 above. Users on LP or MM are free to get into bootloader, unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com and root; without returning to any older OS version (which is actually impossible without root and/or s-off).

redpoint73 said:
This information is false, for more reason that one (see below). If you bothered to read a thread, I already explained it above in Post #9.
1) The only thing the "fast boot" power option (in Settings) prevented, was going to bootloader from a "power off" condition, as in this case, the phone isn't truly powered off (just a deep sleep state). But you can still get to booloader with a REBOOT, which is always a true reboot; even with "fast boot" power setting enabled.
2) With the "fast boot" power option gone, Item 1 above is irrelevant. The absence of this option in fact makes it easier to get to bootloader, not harder. This is not related to the Android fastboot/adb interface, if that is part of the confusion (as the name is practically the same).
3) Your advice about doing a factory reset is false, as a factory reset does not return you to a former OS version (despite somewhat popular misconception). All factory reset does, is delete user data. Plus, what you advise is completely unnecessary due to Item 2 above. Users on LP or MM are free to get into bootloader, unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com and root; without returning to any older OS version (which is actually impossible without root and/or s-off).
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LOL! I never even read the post. I just saw how dead the thread was

xunholyx said:
LOL! I never even read the post. I just saw how dead the thread was
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Fully agree. But Post #14 was so completely incorrect, that I felt the need to respond and prevent possible spread of misinformation.

Ce_dric said:
Need help guys... How to root my m8 phone.. Its lolipop version. Help me fast
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http://theroot.ninja/

[SamSung Note 4 - SM-N910A] HardBrick - QHSUSB_BULK help

OEM battery was replaced with new batteries bought off amazon. After the new update, suddenly it started randomly rebooting on me. and next thing it knew, if would show me a Samsung Logo screen and be stuck on it.
I saw some suggestion and I did the remove battery and held the power button and down vol. it reboots.. and every it auto restart and goes to the downloading screen... i just remove the batter and restart the process.
I accidentally on my reboot select the boot from bootloader, and from there it Hardbrick. It no longer turns on, as good as dead, but when I plugged into the PC... I hear 3 beeps... and QHSUSB_BULK driver not found.
I bought a jig, and see if it would help me go into the Bootup Mode, but it was still unresponsive
I was hoping if anyone is able to offer me some guidance

we are able to unbrick it
......if we had someone to help use with the development by just spending the extra few minutes on helping us

What kind of help do you need?
I saw post about Jtag service saying that they cab fix it, should I give them a try?

I have a device that did the same exact thing. Started acted funny, then just hardbricked on a battery pull. Same error message on computer when plugged in, despite locating correct drivers, etc. I am really upset because I've lost a lot of pictures and videos of my little girl. I wrote to a jtag repair person & they felt jtag would not help. And of course I've done all the usual stuff, new battery, all the button combos, etc. It's deader that a door nail, no charging light, vibrations, nothing. I've not dropped it, gotten it wet, nothing.....it just died. And a few few days short of my upgrade, too! Go figure. Anyhow, if ANYONE can PLEASE offer any help, that would be awesome. Even if just as much for me to recover my pics from the emc.

XenophobiaDX said:
What kind of help do you need?
I saw post about Jtag service saying that they cab fix it, should I give them a try?
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we all know about JTAG
but we want a person who owns an AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4 who is still in Android Lollipop
Because if we found a person on it
we can create an unbrick image to boot it

alexanderdab said:
we all know about jtag
but we want a person who owns an at&t samsung galaxy note 4 who is still in android lollipop
because if we found a person on it
we can create an unbrick image to boot it
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right here. Just dont know how

viewsfromthepi said:
right here. Just dont know how
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what version of Android are you on?

AlexanderDAB said:
what version of Android are you on?
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Lollipop

viewsfromthepi said:
Lollipop
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what is your Baseband version

alexanderdab said:
what is your baseband version
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n910aucu2doi3

viewsfromthepi said:
n910aucu2doi3
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can you temp root with Kingroot

AlexanderDAB said:
can you temp root with Kingroot
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Yes

viewsfromthepi said:
Yes
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If you have a computer, and if you can root with kingroot
Use the batch file on a Windows based computer
And please create the unbrick image
Please, for everyone who has a bricked AT&T Note 4
And link me to the unbrick image

AlexanderDAB said:
If you have a computer, and if you can root with kingroot
Use the batch file on a Windows based computer
And please create the unbrick image
Please, for everyone who has a bricked AT&T Note 4
And link me to the unbrick image
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Question. Will my information be copied?

viewsfromthepi said:
Question. Will my information be copied?
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It will not, it only copies the Bootloader mechanisms into an image

AlexanderDAB said:
It will not, it only copies the Bootloader mechanisms into an image
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Ok. Will upload when I have a chance

viewsfromthepi said:
Ok. Will upload when I have a chance
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THANK YOU
I NEED TO UNBRICK THE PHONE ;u;

I hope my work can help the community can help to root this phone
Its been 2 Years, 3 Months and 20 Days since this phone came out

viewsfromthepi said:
I hope my work can help the community can help to root this phone
Its been 2 Years, 3 Months and 20 Days since this phone came out
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Yes it has
The "unrootable unlockable" Verizon Note 4 has a bootloader unlock and root, twrp, customs roms and kernel
meaning anything is possible

AlexanderDAB said:
Yes it has
The "unrootable unlockable" Verizon Note 4 has a bootloader unlock and root, twrp, customs roms and kernel
meaning anything is possible
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Kingroot is too bugy it reboots. Any alternatives?

Can't find valid operating system

hi guys please help me i get this error on the screen ". The device will not start." and i can't use my phone, i can't enter the recovery mode (i get the same error) and the device state locked ! please help me

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Chouiyekh said:
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Tried reflashing stock?

djcrystals said:
Tried reflashing stock?
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i can't because the bootloader is locked, please help to find a way to revive my mobile (i don't know i there is a box or something else to install the os even the bootloader locked)
the problem happened when i tried to relock the bootloader, unfortunately i don't know the place of purchase because i'm a second hand and i don't know the person who sold me the phone where to live we just met through the internet and we don't have google support in Morocco

Chouiyekh said:
i can't because the bootloader is locked, please help to find a way to revive my mobile (i don't know i there is a box or something else to install the os even the bootloader locked)
the problem happened when i tried to relock the bootloader, unfortunately i don't know the place of purchase because i'm a second hand and i don't know the person who sold me the phone where to live we just met through the internet and we don't have google support in Morocco
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If you were not on full stock rom without root, or anything custom, and you turned off OEM unlocking and USB debugging, then locked the bootloader, you are basically hosed my friend

Look at this point it just needs to be said... PEOPLE STOP RE-LOCKING THE DARN BOOTLOADER!!
PERIOD!!
There are literally a half dozen posts this week with probably bricked phones and a good amount of them are this same root cause.

CyberpodS2 said:
Look at this point it just needs to be said... PEOPLE STOP RE-LOCKING THE DARN BOOTLOADER!!
PERIOD!!
There are literally a half dozen posts this week with probably bricked phones and a good amount of them are this same root cause.
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Your preaching to the choir ol friend! While I agree with you 100%, some things are best learned the hard, and expensive way! I've done it twice myself.
The carpenters rule should apply to these phones as well...."measure twice, cut once" :good:

I remember and I'm sure that i left USB debugging enabled, and the bootloader locked, so is there any hope ?

Chouiyekh said:
I remember and I'm sure that i left USB debugging enabled, and the bootloader locked, so is there any hope ?
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Did you leave OEM unlocking on as well? And, were you on full stock, non rooted rom?

Badger50 said:
Did you leave OEM unlocking on as well? And, were you on full stock, non rooted rom?
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i left it in this case, OEM unlocking OFF and USB debugging ON, and i was on full stock, rooted rom , the problem happened when i tried to unroot and relock the bootloader

any hopes please please guys, i'm ready to donate for the one who will help i promise

Chouiyekh said:
any hopes please please guys, i'm ready to donate for the one who will help i promise
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My friend.....you could give me or anybody else 10 thousand bucks, and it's still not going to solve your problem I'm sorry to say. You should have unrooted the phone first, then fastbooted the factory image, or do a factory reset, and made sure that OEM unlocking & USB debugging were left on until you were done locking the bootloader. Sorry man, but there's not much you can do without at least a stock recovery, so....accept the loss, learn from your mistake, and move on. Many of us here, including myself, have been there as well. What you choose to learn from it is up to you

Badger50 said:
My friend.....you could give me or anybody else 10 thousand bucks, and it's still not going to solve your problem I'm sorry to say. You should have unrooted the phone first, then fastbooted the factory image, or do a factory reset, and made sure that OEM unlocking & USB debugging were left on until you were done locking the bootloader. Sorry man, but there's not much you can do without at least a stock recovery, so....accept the loss, learn from your mistake, and move on. Many of us here, including myself, have been there as well. What you choose to learn from it is up to you
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Thank you so much, i will accept this loss as you said and absolutely i will learn from it. Tupac was right " that which does not kill me can only make me stronger "

Chouiyekh said:
Thank you so much, i will accept this loss as you said and absolutely i will learn from it. Tupac was right " that which does not kill me can only make me stronger "
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No problem my friend. As they say "s#*t happens"
And your quote isn't from Tupac, it's from the philosopher Frederick Nietzsche in 1888. :laugh:

Badger50 said:
No problem my friend. As they say "s#*t happens"
And your quote isn't from Tupac, it's from the philosopher Frederick Nietzsche in 1888. :laugh:
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Easy to mistake the two...

Badger50 said:
No problem my friend. As they say "s#*t happens"
And your quote isn't from Tupac, it's from the philosopher Frederick Nietzsche in 1888. :laugh:
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hahaha, what a big mustache he has

CyberpodS2 said:
Easy to mistake the two...
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Oh absolutely it is! Almost like twins! ???

Badger50 said:
Oh absolutely it is! Almost like twins!
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Chouiyekh said:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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have you tried flashing the official ota image as that doesnt require an unlocked bootloader so it coud be worth a shot

kevtrysmoddin said:
have you tried flashing the official ota image as that doesnt require an unlocked bootloader so it coud be worth a shot
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You are correct. Unfortunately, he has no stock recovery anymore

Pixel 2xl Can't Find Valid Operating System.

I've tried to lock the bootloader. But after locking the bootloader the phone restarts and shows the message that Can't Find Valid Operating System.
In FastBoot Mode it shows:
Secure Boot -Yes
Device State - Locked
My Bootloader Version - TMZ20k
Baseband Version - g8998-00253-1809191716
What's the solution?

Hope you didn't try to lock the bootloader without being fully stock...
If so, you've just bricked your phone.
If you're fully stock, you can bootloader unlock the phone again and start over.

ilal2ielli said:
Hope you didn't try to lock the bootloader without being fully stock...
If so, you've just bricked your phone.
If you're fully stock, you can bootloader unlock the phone again and start over.
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The phone was in full stock.
I didn't changed any rom.
How can I unlock the phone again and start over?

msnahad98 said:
The phone was in full stock.
I didn't changed any rom.
How can I unlock the phone again and start over?
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does your computer recognize your phone?
if so make sure you have up to date adb/fastboot
boot into bootloader then open command prompt
type fastboot flashing_unlock
why did you relock your bootloader?
maybe try deuce's script or the all in one tool. They're pretty handy

Edmontonchef said:
does your computer recognize your phone?
if so make sure you have up to date adb/fastboot
boot into bootloader then open command prompt
type fastboot flashing_unlock
why did you relock your bootloader?
maybe try deuce's script or the all in one tool. They're pretty handy
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Yes My Computer recognize my phone.
After entering this command "fastboot flashing unlock"
It Shows:
FAILED (remote: 'Flashing Unlock is not allowed')

Have you tried adb sideloading an ota file?
If that doesn't work I'm not sure what else you can do.

msnahad98 said:
I've tried to lock the bootloader. But after locking the bootloader the phone restarts and shows the message that Can't Find Valid Operating System.
In FastBoot Mode it shows:
Secure Boot -Yes
Device State - Locked
My Bootloader Version - TMZ20k
Baseband Version - g8998-00253-1809191716
What's the solution?
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By chance did you turn off OEM unlocking and USB debugging before you locked the bootloader? If so, it's......Brickhouse time! :fingers-crossed:

Badger50 said:
By chance did you turn off OEM unlocking and USB debugging before you locked the bootloader? If so, it's......Brickhouse time! :fingers-crossed:
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Yes unfortunately I've turned off OEM unlocking and USB debugging before locking the bootloader.
Isn't there any kind of solution???:crying:

If you're under warranty you can return it.

Edmontonchef said:
If you're under warranty you can return it.
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I don't have any warranty.

msnahad98 said:
Yes unfortunately I've turned off OEM unlocking and USB debugging before locking the bootloader.
Isn't there any kind of solution???:crying:
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msnahad98 said:
I don't have any warranty.
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You could try sideloading the OTA through stock recovery like @Edmontonchef suggested. I don't think it'll work, but at this point, anything is worth a try.

Could somebody PLEASE sticky a warning on every section to NOT RELOCK BOOTLOADER?? Pretty please??

CyberpodS2 said:
Could somebody PLEASE sticky a warning on every section to NOT RELOCK BOOTLOADER?? Pretty please??
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While that would be nice my friend, I also think that there is enough information out there already that if users were willing to search for it, they would find out quickly that this is a no no. Unless of course, it's done in the correct manner. :fingers-crossed:

Why did you relock the bootloader? What advantage did you expect to gain from that?

CyberpodS2 said:
Could somebody PLEASE sticky a warning on every section to NOT RELOCK BOOTLOADER?? Pretty please??
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Badger50 said:
While that would be nice my friend, I also think that there is enough information out there already that if users were willing to search for it, they would find out quickly that this is a no no. Unless of course, it's done in the correct manner. :fingers-crossed:
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You mean, put THAT sticky right next to the sticky that states, SEARCH FIRST, or the one that states "generic questions belong in the Q&A section for each device"?
Edited out of compassion

Az Biker said:
You mean, put THAT sticky right next to the sticky that states, SEARCH FIRST?
Or next to the sticky that states "generic questions belong in the Q&A section for each device"?
Or any of the other 100s of stickies that the vast majority never read?
Those stickies?
I'm actually AMAZED at the "right now, immediate gratification" mentality of so many people nowadays.
I have this $800+ device, I want to customize it, what should I do first?
1) read the OPs and research the guides for my device PRIOR to messing with it,
or
2) skip all the research and OPs and flash my new device the way I flashed my Note 3 from five years ago?
Who in their ever loving right mind picks 2??????
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Amen by brother! No truer words have ever been spoken! :good:

Badger50 said:
Amen by brother! No truer words have ever been spoken! :good:
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I feel bad for new members like the OP. No doubt this will be a learning moment for him, and he seems sharp enough that I think he'll be okay down the road and will do the research needed before customizing his devices.
The members who have been with Xda for years and STILL don't research, read OPs, read stickies.... those are the folks who chap my hide

Az Biker said:
I feel bad for new members like the OP. No doubt this will be a learning moment for him, and he seems sharp enough that I think he'll be okay down the road and will do the research needed before customizing his devices.
The members who have been with Xda for years and STILL don't research, read OPs, read stickies.... those are the folks who chap my hide
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Yeah, don't let it get ya down Hoss! Some folks just like learning things the hard way I reckon. We both did. And, in the long run, they'll be better off for it :good: