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Official Statement:
"We are working with relevant regulatory bodies to investigate the recently reported cases involving the Galaxy Note7. Because consumers’ safety remains our top priority, Samsung will ask all carrier and retail partners globally to stop sales and exchanges of the Galaxy Note7 while the investigation is taking place.
We remain committed to working diligently with appropriate regulatory authorities to take all necessary steps to resolve the situation. Consumers with either an original Galaxy Note7 or replacement Galaxy Note7 device should power down and stop using the device and take advantage of the remedies available."
Source: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
What are you Note 7 holders gonna do next?! "Don't forget to answer the poll! "
A second recall is on the way: http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ <-------- "Updated on Oct. 10 2016"
And I am still waiting my preorder!
This did not need another thread.
andyahs said:
This did not need another thread.
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Why not? It's the newest info and there is no real "note 7 burn discussion thread". I'm just curious why the thread is bad actually. It's an important information, that shouldn't be buried in a 20 site thread.
Btw. link to the news: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place
I returned mine and my wife's to att for complete refund.. I now have an axon 7 on order and she has the oneplus 3 coming..
chanter100 said:
I returned mine and my wife's to att for complete refund.. I now have an axon 7 on order and she has the oneplus 3 coming..
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Yeah ... right when I can get a new phone this problem comes up and now I don't really have something to get... need a good camera and > 5.5"...
- note 7 > flames
- pixel > too expensive (could buy it, but I won't because the price itself is an insolence...)
- LG v20 > no release in europe for now
- moto z > cam not that good
- Sony Z5 > no alternate firmware / root without loosing some cam quality etc.
- One Plus, Axon, HTC ... > bad cams in comparison
Right now I even thing about getting a nexus 6p (like my wife, nightshots are awesome and cheap to get). Still will wait a bit how this disaster plays out for samsung. If they can fix it, the note is not off the table.
Same as my thoughts! You can answer the poll then
Thank you!
Maerad said:
Yeah ... right when I can get a new phone this problem comes up and now I don't really have something to get... need a good camera and > 5.5"...
- note 7 > flames
- pixel > too expensive (could buy it, but I won't because the price itself is an insolence...)
- LG v20 > no release in europe for now
- moto z > cam not that good
- Sony Z5 > no alternate firmware / root without loosing some cam quality etc.
- One Plus, Axon, HTC ... > bad cams in comparison
Right now I even thing about getting a nexus 6p (like my wife, nightshots are awesome and cheap to get). Still will wait a bit how this disaster plays out for samsung. If they can fix it, the note is not off the table.
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Hmmm... This really is a bummer. I got my N930FD through EBay and have no idea what to do lol.
...But there's a poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im going to turn my two in and go to something else... Im really pissed about it cause i love this phone, and nothing else compares....
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Hmmm... This really is a bummer. I got my N930FD through EBay and have no idea what to do lol.
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If Samsung ceases total production on it or even if they put out a v3 .. they would have to replace it for you since it's now a pariah. I'd call them and get them to exchange it for an S7 Edge. It IS the very least they could do. I really, really wanted this 2nd battery to be the fix and we could move on. Alas, that sh** ain't happening.
Im going to have to ask for a full refund. No need to try thirst note 7.
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If Samsung ceases total production on it or even if they put out a v3 .. they would have to replace it for you since it's now a pariah. I'd call them and get them to exchange it for an S7 Edge. It IS the very least they could do. I really, really wanted this 2nd battery to be the fix and we could move on. Alas, that sh** ain't happening.
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Ya this truly is a $hit storm. I love this unit as it runs perfect I'm still actually using the original unit but since all these new inconvenience it's getting frusting especially if ever they decide to stop supporting and updates. :crying:
So, will we be able to exchange the S7 Edge loaners for Note 7's once they are deemed safe again?
I know it's a hassle, but I really like this phone. I don't even care about Nougat or future updates other than security updates...
Samsung can stick the 25$ gift card/credit up their a$$. I wasted countless hours in the last 2 months on this phone. Great phone but not worth all this BS.
I suppose I will hold onto it until the v20 hits. Hopefully it's not hard to obtain since many will be jumping the sinking Samsung ship like I am.
I want to keep the Note 7. I don't want any other device. I'll replace it again if needed but I want another Note 7. There is no other device comparable to the Note. Maybe by some miracle we can get a unlocked bootloader edition Note 7 by chance. Just think how awesome custom Roms could be for this device.
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I want to keep the Note 7. I don't want any other device. I'll replace it again if needed but I want another Note 7. There is no other device comparable to the Note. Maybe by some miracle we can get a unlocked bootloader edition Note 7 by chance. Just think how awesome custom Roms could be for this device.
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You would have to wonder how much time and effort Samsung will put into this device with future updates...the community around this device will be small as well, which won't bode well for custom roms.
I was waiting for my wife's carrier to get the Note 7 in stock to get one (they had already discounted it to $0 on a 2 year contract, and her contract was up). I have and love my S7 and it has me spoiled.
If anyone can name me a 5.5in amoled screen or larger phone with awesome camera, sd card slot and good water resistance, I'll bite. I'm not a fan of the big curves of the S7 Edge
Guess I'm on track with having the S7 Edge for 2-3 years, then getting the Note 9 or 10...
Wonder what the tech will be then?
I agree with that, I am not giving up mine, but am worried about the future of updates. I have the ATT one, and they suck on updates anyways. That scares me more than the phone popping.
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I agree with that, I am not giving up mine, but am worried about the future of updates. I have the ATT one, and they suck on updates anyways. That scares me more than the phone popping.
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The way I see it, samsung will not put too much effort into updating it...because they DID say to return it completely or exchange it...as a business if i have sent out such notice, i will not expect buyers to dive at it once again (upon a second recall) if ever released...with that information, i will put my energy elsewhere to bring in profit...rather than a sinking ship.
adding sammy delay in update to that of the carrier...we are looking at nouget in 2 years lol
Over the past 2 years the Note series and S series phones have become very closely related, almost identical besides the s-pen and software. I wouldn't doubt for Samsung to scrap the note line altogether after this and have the S8 and new S8+ with included s-pen. Nightmare from the note goes away and they continue on with their successful S series. They've already had a Note 8 before so they had to change something with the name anyway. Just an idea.
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I think they push a FW update again, disabling the phone if you do not power down yourself.
But yes, I can wait... again....
Just wanna see if i can start a discussion/information depot as to which new phones we root toot and twrp booting, majisk using, custom rom lovin' and xposed framework abusing SOBs can look forward to... after our s6's vaporize from all the xposed mods were runnin' (some of us at least ).
Is it an unlocked s8? Does that even have any dev'ing going on?
How about a nexus 6p? Or maybe the next nexus phone...
If your like me you have only had sammys since the s1... remember the epic 4g with a slide out keyboard, or ill do ya one better, the moment? Is keyboard button mapping Emulator heaven worth the downgrade? LOL
Or are we gonna just keep our s6s forever?
Life is tough and ever since these locked bootloaders on our beloved flagships, its not fair either.
What are we gonna do? What have you guys heard/learned about the competition?
Yes i could do all the research myself, or we can have a fun discussion about it and save us all a few google searches!
I think it's the s8 for me...
monroe0328 said:
Just wanna see if i can start a discussion/information depot as to which new phones we root toot and twrp booting, majisk using, custom rom lovin' and xposed framework abusing SOBs can look forward to... after our s6's vaporize from all the xposed mods were runnin' (some of us at least ).
Is it an unlocked s8? Does that even have any dev'ing going on?
How about a nexus 6p? Or maybe the next nexus phone...
If your like me you have only had sammys since the s1... remember the epic 4g with a slide out keyboard, or ill do ya one better, the moment? Is keyboard button mapping Emulator heaven worth the downgrade? LOL
Or are we gonna just keep our s6s forever?
Life is tough and ever since these locked bootloaders on our beloved flagships, its not fair either.
What are we gonna do? What have you guys heard/learned about the competition?
Yes i could do all the research myself, or we can have a fun discussion about it and save us all a few google searches!
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I think it's the s8 for me.
I'm super disappointed the the Snapdragon version (US Version) of the galaxy s8 is apparently unable to be rooted by either a SuperSU method or a Magisk method (or any other method)- and I will have to find a way to live without Titanium Backup, Xposed, PMP, etc etc etc.
That said- it appears that "Package Disabler Pro" https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/package-disabler-pro-safe-to-disable-t3593305 will at least give me some granular control back, especially as I fight to minimize the spam and bloatware.
I think I'll have to combine that with whatever non-root methods I can to piece together some sanity.
Too bad, but the battery on my S6 has started to drift badly with age, and I think it is just time to move on.
Good news I suppose is that it is waterproof. Always irked me a bit that s5, s7, and s8... but NOT s6 were...
Ya my battery is on the fritz too. I can squeeze another hour SOT if i under clock/under volt but thats not why we bought these phones right?
I was checkin the s8 out the other day and i may be leaning towards the s8+. I dn the curved edges are cool but the s8 screen seemed a bit thin to me, maybe just not used to the new curves. I tell you what tho that screen is the whole dang phone! Very sexy.
Not sure how i feel about the capacitive buttons gone but not a deal breaker, more screen cant be bad.
Remember if your up for an upgrade to call the 1800 number to get the 200ish dollar upgrade price to avoid the monthly lease, thats how i do it, plus u trade in your s6 if its worth it. Prolly get that phone for 200 or less out the door.
Life without root tho gosh... at least we got nova, maybe a modded youtube app thatl work without root. Its just an apk hunt for all our tweaks that we like.
An unlocked s8 tho, good on all carriers. But without root we may not be able to get wifi calling or volte or other carrier specific goodies, least thats what i heard.
Its the phone we always wanted, thats why im so intrested in the unlocked version, even if i havento wait for a deal. Just imagine... s8, rooted and free to dominate. I havnt even looked into its new LTE advanced perks if there are any, like tmobiles 256 qam 4x4 mimo stuff
Looks like samsung will lease the unlocked s8 for 26 bucks a month for 24 months... not like I have the credit for anything like that.
Best buy got em for 600 somethin. Wonder how much our s6 is worth? Ive also wondered if you could somehow use an upgrade on the unlocked version. Almost certain its a no but hey we can still dream.
There is some dev'ing goin on for the s8 unlocked but looks like mostly international variants, exynos mostly.
Next post...
S8 models fyi..
Versions: G950F (Europe, Global Single-SIM); G950FD (Global Dual-SIM); G950U (USA Unlocked); G950A (AT&T); G950P (Sprint); G950T (T-Mobile); G950V (Verizon); G950R4 (US Cellular); G950W (Canada); G950S/G950K/G950L (South Korea); G9500 (China)
spammy l said:
I think it's the s8 for me.
I'm super disappointed the the Snapdragon version (US Version) of the galaxy s8 is apparently unable to be rooted by either a SuperSU method or a Magisk method (or any other method)- and I will have to find a way to live without Titanium Backup, Xposed, PMP, etc etc etc.
That said- it appears that "Package Disabler Pro" https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/package-disabler-pro-safe-to-disable-t3593305 will at least give me some granular control back, especially as I fight to minimize the spam and bloatware.
I think I'll have to combine that with whatever non-root methods I can to piece together some sanity.
Too bad, but the battery on my S6 has started to drift badly with age, and I think it is just time to move on.
Good news I suppose is that it is waterproof. Always irked me a bit that s5, s7, and s8... but NOT s6 were...
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https://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-galaxy-s8-deal,news-24784.html
Worth the read. Looks like samsung will give you 200 for your s6 bringing an unlocked s8 to $425 i think it said.
Im gonna find out if you can use your sprint upgrade on an unlocked one at best buy. Thad be rad.
...like hey mr best buy rep, 20 bucks says thats a sprint phone, not an unlocked one
monroe0328 said:
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-galaxy-s8-deal,news-24784.html
Worth the read. Looks like samsung will give you 200 for your s6 bringing an unlocked s8 to $425 i think it said.
Im gonna find out if you can use your sprint upgrade on an unlocked one at best buy. Thad be rad.
...like hey mr best buy rep, 20 bucks says thats a sprint phone, not an unlocked one
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Yeah- Unfortunately I think the $200 buyback is for other carriers like verizon, etc. Sprint I don't think offers that much-- but I'd love to be wrong about it.
I went ahead and ordered the s8 from bestbuy for 600 total (they do 150 off, 25/month for 24 months) and you own not lease it. They also throw in a fast wireless charging dock.
If I could have found an arctic silver one with a clean ESN I would have gotten one on ebay (no tax! save 70 bucks!)-- there were black and arctic gray ones brand new in box recently that went for 550 there. No free charging dock- but whatev- you can get a good one of those for 20 bucks on amazon, so overall that saves around 100 from even the best buy deal.
I'm still really really bummed about the no root thing. I've had root for so long on so many phones I don't even know what kind of automating apps are out there (ie replacements for things like tasker/automateit pro, etc) --- or how much control the non-root versions give.
On the same boat my beautiful s6 is the first phone I didn't upgrade after my contract was due.
None of the new phone are keeping the features from the s6 like the IR blaster which is why I haven't upgraded.
I also used to own an epic 4g miss the full physical keyboard
Oh dont remind me. I use my IR blaster alllll the time. I dont know how many relatives and friends houses dont have remotes for their tvs, and i swoop in and save the day.
BEST IR APP IMO - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tekoia.sure.activities
monroe0328 said:
Just wanna see if i can start a discussion/information depot as to which new phones we root toot and twrp booting, majisk using, custom rom lovin' and xposed framework abusing SOBs can look forward to... after our s6's vaporize from all the xposed mods were runnin' (some of us at least ).
Is it an unlocked s8? Does that even have any dev'ing going on?
How about a nexus 6p? Or maybe the next nexus phone...
If your like me you have only had sammys since the s1... remember the epic 4g with a slide out keyboard, or ill do ya one better, the moment? Is keyboard button mapping Emulator heaven worth the downgrade? LOL
Or are we gonna just keep our s6s forever?
Life is tough and ever since these locked bootloaders on our beloved flagships, its not fair either.
What are we gonna do? What have you guys heard/learned about the competition?
Yes i could do all the research myself, or we can have a fun discussion about it and save us all a few google searches!
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My S6 is falling apart. I am going to the Moto G4 pretty soon. My S6 has so many issues so the downgrade is more of an upgrade. Either that or I might activate my S5 (It's better than my S6 in almost everyway minus the cracked screen)
Edit: After my contracts up (I am only going to use the Moto G4 until my contracts up) in 6 months I will most likely spring for the HTC 10. Although I will have to pay for sunshine to get S-OFF to flash LOS. Might be worth it honestly.
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My S6 is falling apart. I am going to the Moto G4 pretty soon. My S6 has so many issues so the downgrade is more of an upgrade. Either that or I might activate my S5 (It's better than my S6 in almost everyway minus the cracked screen)
Edit: After my contracts up (I am only going to use the Moto G4 until my contracts up) in 6 months I will most likely spring for the HTC 10. Although I will have to pay for sunshine to get S-OFF to flash LOS. Might be worth it honestly.
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Yep gonna have to check out the htc linup. I feel ya tho on the downgrade upgrade, i really considered the 6p just from all the development the phone has. Give AOSP a shot. Last phone i ran AOSP on was one of the early galaxys. Or cyanogen mod i think it was.
But we galaxy consumers are here for the specs. So buying older is always tough for me. I heard the 6p flys tho.
Any other phones got an ir blaster these days?
Update: these phones have ir blasters
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_IR_blaster
Looks like the pixel 2 may release this october... def check the specs when they're out
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Yep gonna have to check out the htc linup. I feel ya tho on the downgrade upgrade, i really considered the 6p just from all the development the phone has. Give AOSP a shot. Last phone i ran AOSP on was one of the early galaxys. Or cyanogen mod i think it was.
But we galaxy consumers are here for the specs. So buying older is always tough for me. I heard the 6p flys tho.
Any other phones got an ir blaster these days?
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AOSP is so much better than TouchWiz. My s5 has CM13 and it's blazing fast. I've done speed tests on my s5 vs s6. S5 wins in almost every way. LOS 14 is even faster than CM13 but I am waiting for xposed support before I upgrade. I'd definitely recommend trying out some AOSP Roms on the n6p (although I don't think they'll be as needed as it already has stock Android)
As for the IR blaster... I don't know. I know that there are some IR blasters that you can plug into the headphone jack of your phone (that is if your phone has a headphone jack ) I think the HTC 10 might. I'll look.
Edit: Nope. HTC 10 doesn't have one and the HTC U 11 doesn't seem to have one either.
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AOSP is so much better than TouchWiz. My s5 has CM13 and it's blazing fast. I've done speed tests on my s5 vs s6. S5 wins in almost every way. LOS 14 is even faster than CM13 but I am waiting for xposed support before I upgrade. I'd definitely recommend trying out some AOSP Roms on the n6p (although I don't think they'll be as needed as it already has stock Android)
As for the IR blaster... I don't know. I know that there are some IR blasters that you can plug into the headphone jack of your phone (that is if your phone has a headphone jack ) I think the HTC 10 might. I'll look.
Edit: Nope. HTC 10 doesn't have one and the HTC U 11 doesn't seem to have one either.
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Ya the ir blaster is dead, i like the little headphone jack adapters but thats on its way out too.
I totally forgot about the next samsung note. Wonder if it will be unlockable. Certainly a big NO but who knows. I honestly dont think im gonna get anything but an unlocked s8 or s8+. But, gonna have to save a bit longer and do s'more research.
Is the one plus phones compatible with sprint? Ima check it out.
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Is the one plus phones compatible with sprint? Ima check it out.
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As long as it has CDMA support it should be.
Poebat said:
As long as it has CDMA support it should be.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/1-5-sprint-t3624788/page1
Looks like someone just bought it... no confirmation yet. Looks like the issue is with the type of band sprint CDMA uses OR if sprint approves the device... just stay tuned to the thread to find out! :/ (not mine, theirs lol)
Dude guys. My friend here in mississippi used his UPGRADE PRICE on the UNLOCKED galaxy s8. Walked out the door with the unlocked version for around 150 bucks.
Was this a fluke? Did they just hook him up? New guy mistake?
It is worth noting that the carrier was "C Spire" ?? Here in meridian, MS.
Or should i walk into best buy like I own the place and demand an s8 unlocked for $200?
This gets me excited. Your thoughts?
Hi,
I have a new Z2 Play and the camera's not great. I'm traveling this weekend and need a good camera. Would the Hasselblad mod be an improvement? I see both the phone and the mod have a 12-mp camera but am not techie enough to understand any other differences in specs between the two. I get 25% off at Verizon, which would bring the price down a bit, and I guess I have 14 days to return, but don't want to go through (or put the store through) all that if it's not an improvement over the Z2 Play camera.
My other option is to take an old, inactive Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus to use as a camera; it had some water damage but I don't think it affected the camera? Unfortunately I just traded in/sold all 3 iPhones
TIA!
(Also xposting to the mods section)
I think you should get it (I want one too!)
Yes, despite the same 12 megapixel rating it will be a noticeable improvement over the built-in camera. Not only does the Hasselblad mod have a real 10x optical zoom, but it offers selectable modes tailored for sport, portrait, etc. that can minimize blurring and optimize lighting and contrast for scenes. It uses its own imaging hardware so it is not dependent on any of the phone's built-in imaging hardware or software. In addition to saving pictures as JPG files, it also captures images in RAW format, so if you really want to tweak the pictures later you will have uncompressed RAW mode files (though file sizes will be several times larger). In addition to all of that great stuff, I *think* it has optical image stabilization, though reviews on the web claim both that it does and that it doesn't. I haven't been able to confirm if it really has OIS or not.
Unfortunately I don't yet have one myself but have been seriously considering buying one and have done lots of research. My opinion is you should get it if you can afford the $250 USD price, especially considering your comment about getting it at a discounted price. I paid over $200 for my point-and-click Samsung camera, and while it has a 21x zoom and 16mpix sensor I would prefer to have my phone be the center of my imaging solution rather than carry around another device. Sure, I would be doing that with the Hasselblad mod as well but I wouldn't have to worry about moving the pictures off my camera later and they would automatically be uploaded to Google Photos. The convenience and added features would make it worth it.
The only downside (beyond price) I see is that it's useless unless it's connected to a some type of Moto Z phone. However, if you're comfortable with that (it's the same for any Moto Mod) then it probably isn't a concern.
Good luck, and if you do buy it please post an update for those of us who are on the fence need an excuse to buy it!
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I forgot to ask; how do you get a 25% discount from Verizon? I would buy it right now if I could get it at that price.
danicrit said:
Hi,
I have a new Z2 Play and the camera's not great. I'm traveling this weekend and need a good camera. Would the Hasselblad mod be an improvement? I see both the phone and the mod have a 12-mp camera but am not techie enough to understand any other differences in specs between the two. I get 25% off at Verizon, which would bring the price down a bit, and I guess I have 14 days to return, but don't want to go through (or put the store through) all that if it's not an improvement over the Z2 Play camera.
My other option is to take an old, inactive Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus to use as a camera; it had some water damage but I don't think it affected the camera? Unfortunately I just traded in/sold all 3 iPhones
TIA!
(Also xposting to the mods section)
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tropho said:
Yes, despite the same 12 megapixel rating it will be a noticeable improvement over the built-in camera. Not only does the Hasselblad mod have a real 10x optical zoom, but it offers selectable modes tailored for sport, portrait, etc. that can minimize blurring and optimize lighting and contrast for scenes. It uses its own imaging hardware so it is not dependent on any of the phone's built-in imaging hardware or software. In addition to saving pictures as JPG files, it also captures images in RAW format, so if you really want to tweak the pictures later you will have uncompressed RAW mode files (though file sizes will be several times larger). In addition to all of that great stuff, I *think* it has optical image stabilization, though reviews on the web claim both that it does and that it doesn't. I haven't been able to confirm if it really has OIS or not.
Unfortunately I don't yet have one myself but have been seriously considering buying one and have done lots of research. My opinion is you should get it if you can afford the $250 USD price, especially considering your comment about getting it at a discounted price. I paid over $200 for my point-and-click Samsung camera, and while it has a 21x zoom and 16mpix sensor I would prefer to have my phone be the center of my imaging solution rather than carry around another device. Sure, I would be doing that with the Hasselblad mod as well but I wouldn't have to worry about moving the pictures off my camera later and they would automatically be uploaded to Google Photos. The convenience and added features would make it worth it.
The only downside (beyond price) I see is that it's useless unless it's connected to a some type of Moto Z phone. However, if you're comfortable with that (it's the same for any Moto Mod) then it probably isn't a concern.
Good luck, and if you do buy it please post an update for those of us who are on the fence need an excuse to buy it!
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Thank you so much!!! Yes, I noticed the same thing you did about some reviews saying OIS and others not, which really frustrated me. However, the official Moto site says (under "Full Specifications"):
image stabilization
Still: OIS
Video: EIS
--but like I said, I'm not techie enough to really know how much of a difference that makes.
I had the Moto Z a few weeks ago and got a like-new Hasselblad (supposedly only used a couple times) for $100 on Facebook Marketplace. I only took 2 pics with it though, and one was just when I needed the zoom -- an hour after I bought it (which was almost a 3-hour roundtrip in DC Friday rush hour traffic), I was looking across a busy highway trying to figure out how to get a close-up pic of a faraway sign I wanted to show my kids--then I remembered, duh, I just bought this camera with zoom and that's why I drove all the way out here in the first place! The pic was great as far as the zoom went, I didn't pay attention to anything else. I ended up selling it on Craigslist for $100 when I returned the Z a few days later (due to its' poor battery life). When I got the Z2 Play, the guy I sold it to said I could buy it back if I regretted selling it, but he was happy with it and I didn't want to do that to him (plus I would've had to do another long drive).
For some reason I wasn't sure if the quality of the phone/camera makes a difference--the Z had a better processor and camera than the Z2 Play does, so I wasn't sure if that would impact the quality of pics taken with the mod.
I've seen the mod on Facebook marketplace/Craigslist but am out of time to get it that way now, plus a return will be easier at Verizon. Thanks for your help--I'll bite the bullet and rack up more credit card debt at Verizon tomorrow! It's down to $250 there and I get a 25% discount so I guess that's around $187 before taxes.... ouch. I'll play around with it on my trip this weekend and then decide if it's worth keeping
I forgot to ask; how do you get a 25% discount from Verizon? I would buy it right now if I could get it at that price.
Apparently my husband's company/employer is one of the companies that qualifies for 18% off service (doesn't apply to unlimited plans) and 25% off accessories. If your employer qualifies, you can enroll online or (faster) in a store with a paystub (like I did--but they still messed up and I had to go through a lot to redo it). Third-party retailers vary in the extent to which they'll honor the discount, if at all. Corporate stores will honor it, as will Verizon online and by phone. It's down to $250 on the Verizon website right now, so I hope it's the same in stores since I'm probably out of time to order online for in-store pickup (leaving town Friday--well, I guess I maybe I could try for in-store pickup in the town where I'm going, LOL). When I bought the Z a few weeks ago, the 3rd-party store offered 50% off the mods if you bought them with the phone. I don't think they carried the camera mod though (?); I don't think any 3rd party stores do. I had some other options including a Groupon for a third-party Verizon store that could probably special order it for me, but again, I wouldn't have it in time for this trip. Though I guess I could always return the one I buy tomorrow, after my trip, and get it somewhere else cheaper.
That is great info, thank you. I currently get the military discount, which provides 25% discount on select accessories and unfortunately the Hasselblad mod is not eligible. I double checked via a chat session with a Verizon rep and they confirmed it is not eligible. Oh well, I will eagerly await your follow up report on whether I should just close my eyes and click "submit order"
Since I can't get your awesome discount, I checked elsewhere and see it's listed on Amazon for $239.99, $10 less than Verizon. I wonder if there's an unused Amazon gift card hiding between my couch cushions...
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I forgot to ask; how do you get a 25% discount from Verizon? I would buy it right now if I could get it at that price.
Apparently my husband's company/employer is one of the companies that qualifies for 18% off service (doesn't apply to unlimited plans) and 25% off accessories. If your employer qualifies, you can enroll online or (faster) in a store with a paystub (like I did--but they still messed up and I had to go through a lot to redo it). Third-party retailers vary in the extent to which they'll honor the discount, if at all. Corporate stores will honor it, as will Verizon online and by phone. It's down to $250 on the Verizon website right now, so I hope it's the same in stores since I'm probably out of time to order online for in-store pickup (leaving town Friday--well, I guess I maybe I could try for in-store pickup in the town where I'm going, LOL). When I bought the Z a few weeks ago, the 3rd-party store offered 50% off the mods if you bought them with the phone. I don't think they carried the camera mod though (?); I don't think any 3rd party stores do. I had some other options including a Groupon for a third-party Verizon store that could probably special order it for me, but again, I wouldn't have it in time for this trip. Though I guess I could always return the one I buy tomorrow, after my trip, and get it somewhere else cheaper.
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It uses its own imaging hardware so it is not dependent on any of the phone's built-in imaging hardware or software.
This is something I was confused/concerned about--I know the mod took a couple decent pics with the Z, but that phone had better specs and processor (Snapdragon 820 vs 626) than the Z2 Play, and I wasn't sure how much of a difference that makes when using the mod--in other words, I was worried pics taken with the mod on better/higher-end phones might be better than those taken with the mod on midrange/budget phones. It sounds like that's not the case. Thanks for clearing that up!
That is great info, thank you. I currently get the military discount, which provides 25% discount on select accessories and unfortunately the Hasselblad mod is not eligible. I double checked via a chat session with a Verizon rep and they confirmed it is not eligible. Oh well, I will eagerly await your follow up report on whether I should just close my eyes and click "submit order"
Since I can't get your awesome discount, I checked elsewhere and see it's listed on Amazon for $239.99, $10 less than Verizon. I wonder if there's an unused Amazon gift card hiding between my couch cushions...
I just checked and I have a $24 Amazon balance, LOL, and $22 on Google Express which only has the Tumi battery mod (which I just returned--too heavy, but it's now down to $16.99, which was basically free with a Groupon). Based on my experience with Verizon, I suspect you were given incorrect information about the mod not qualifying as an eligible accessory. I was told something similar at a corporate Verizon store and they turned out to be wrong. When I'm back in town next week, I'll try to get confirmation for you
OT - Another 3rd-party store that currently has a Groupon, said they could special order the Incipio wireless charging battery mod for me. They're saying it's $34.99. I'm going to try to get it and try to get them to honor the price after they realize their mistake (retail is $89.99)......
Update: Got the camera mod!
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Verizon confirmed this accessory isn't eligible for either the employer or military accessory discount.
I went ahead and got it at a discounted price. If I decide not to keep it after my trip this weekend, I'll sell it rather than return it, but that probably won't happen.
Which picture do you prefer? LOL. I also took some indoor shots at my desk and am not sure I see much of a difference...
Having trouble getting both the embedded pics to show up in this post, AND the link to the pictures to work when clicked on (clicking on the Google Photos links takes me to an XDA page)
Comparison shots
https://goo.gl/photos/ont5BbJrGtEN7vGm7
The comparison shots
Sorry about all the posts since there's no option to declutter by deleting.
I just realized if you click the little i at the top right of the pic, and keep that sidebar open as you scroll through the pics, it will show you which pics were taken with which camera (HB being the mod and XT being the phone without the mod).
Can you PM me? I'm not sure if that option exists here. Thanks.
Other than zoom shots, the Z2 Play takes better photos. It's an even bigger gap with the 2016 Z Force Droid and probably Z2 Force. But zoom shots are usually better with the Hasselblad. Also, you can experiment with other camera apps to see if you can get somewhat better shots.
Wow, thank you so much for shooting so many pics for comparison! They both look great but I think the Moto's color temperature is warmer than the Hasselblad's in these pictures, which look to be on the cooler/bluer end of the color spectrum. I like the warmer colors more, but that's something easily changed before or after. Given there are so many tweakable settings in the Hasselblad mod's camera software I'm sure there is something that can be turned on or off depending on the scene. Even so, with the addition of zoom and optical image stabilization I'm still in love with the mod and your efforts have only made me want it more. I now have a birthday gift recommendation to subtly pass to my wife!
Btw that street market looks cool!
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I forgot to ask your opinion of the time required to focus with the Hasselblad, especially when zooming. Some of the reviews criticized it's slow focusing. Did you experience that, and if so was it constant or just during certain situations like low light?
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Wow, thank you so much for shooting so many pics for comparison! They both look great but I think the Moto's color temperature is warmer than the Hasselblad's in these pictures, which look to be on the cooler/bluer end of the color spectrum. I like the warmer colors more, but that's something easily changed before or after. Given there are so many tweakable settings in the Hasselblad mod's camera software I'm sure there is something that can be turned on or off depending on the scene. Even so, with the addition of zoom and optical image stabilization I'm still in love with the mod and your efforts have only made me want it more. I now have a birthday gift recommendation to subtly pass to my wife!
Btw that street market looks cool!
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Thanks!
Sorry for the delayed response, I've been having multiple issues getting into my account and was just about to give up and create a new one. I preferred the Z2 Play shots and am debating not keeping the camera and selling it for the discounted price I paid (or just returning it).
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Other than zoom shots, the Z2 Play takes better photos. It's an even bigger gap with the 2016 Z Force Droid and probably Z2 Force. But zoom shots are usually better with the Hasselblad. Also, you can experiment with other camera apps to see if you can get somewhat better shots.
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Yup, I preferred the Z2 Play shots as well, and I'm not convinced there are "so many tweakable settings" with the mod that will really make enough of a difference to justify $200. I'm thinking about returning it, or selling it so someone else can get the discounted price--that's why I asked you to PM me in case you might be interested in buying it. I also wanted to find out what state you're in, since I'm traveling this weekend.
I actually had an album with Z2 Play shots a couple weeks ago, but already took it down. (I think all the pics are still in my trash folder though, if you're interested in seeing them.)
That's the Thursday Farmer's Market right outside my office
I've never noticed any lag/time issues with focusing or zooming, but then again I wasn't really trying/paying attention, literally just walking around doing point and shoot with no effort (the way most of us take our pictures on the fly). I knew from reading reviews this time around that I needed to press the shutter button halfway down, wait for it to focus, and then press the rest of the way to take the picture. One thing that did scare me a bit was that I started getting 'camera error' message issues after taking pics, and wasn't able to save those pics. I kept taking the mod on and off, restarting it manually, etc. It finally went back to working normally, but I don't know what caused it or how to fix it.... I've seen some user reviews that it just stopped working after a few months but am not sure how/why.
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Wow, thank you so much for shooting so many pics for comparison! They both look great but I think the Moto's color temperature is warmer than the Hasselblad's in these pictures, which look to be on the cooler/bluer end of the color spectrum. I like the warmer colors more, but that's something easily changed before or after. Given there are so many tweakable settings in the Hasselblad mod's camera software I'm sure there is something that can be turned on or off depending on the scene. Even so, with the addition of zoom and optical image stabilization I'm still in love with the mod and your efforts have only made me want it more. I now have a birthday gift recommendation to subtly pass to my wife!
Btw that street market looks cool!
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I forgot to ask your opinion of the time required to focus with the Hasselblad, especially when zooming. Some of the reviews criticized it's slow focusing. Did you experience that, and if so was it constant or just during certain situations like low light?
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Duh, sorry, I just realized if you're reading this thread you probably have a Z2 Play already as well? And therefore would have no need to see the pics I took with one... LOL. Or maybe not, since I guess anyone with a Z series phone might be interested in questions about the mods.
I'll be in New Orleans for the weekend, and will try to take and post a lot of pictures while trying to decide whether to keep the mod or not. I will say it's not all that quick or convenient standing there taking off/putting on the mod to take the comparison shots! I'm probably also taking an old, inactive Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus to use as a camera and for comparison purposes - it had some water damage but I don't think that affected the camera. I suspect it may be cloudy/rainy all weekend though :-/
A bit OT--I'm excited, finally got my notification that the free Soundboost 2 mod (promo with the new Play) is finally shipping. Though why it says allow up to 2-3 more weeks for delivery, I don't know... Can't wait! Wish I had it for my trip this weekend, where I'll be showing off my new phone and mods (but at the moment I only have the camera mod) to my son and his girlfriend (sophomore/junior in college). I wonder if he'll be jealous, LOL, since he's gotten sucked over to the dark side in the past couple years (iPhone).
Oh, just saw this in the FedEx tracking info--guess it will be waiting for me when I get home from my trip Monday night!
Scheduled delivery: Mon 8/21/2017 by end of day
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A bit OT--I'm excited, finally got my notification that the free Soundboost 2 mod (promo with the new Play) is finally shipping. Though why it says allow up to 2-3 more weeks for delivery, I don't know... Can't wait! Wish I had it for my trip this weekend, where I'll be showing off my new phone and mods (but at the moment I only have the camera mod) to my son and his girlfriend (sophomore/junior in college). I wonder if he'll be jealous, LOL, since he's gotten sucked over to the dark side in the past couple years (iPhone).
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Oh no, those camera error messages are not a good sign, nor is the report about it dying after a couple months. That definitely gives me pause about buying one, and I don't want my wishy-washiness to stop you from getting a refund if you're looking to return it. I greatly appreciate the offer (and I may regret that later) but I think it's probably the right move
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Yup, I preferred the Z2 Play shots as well, and I'm not convinced there are "so many tweakable settings" with the mod that will really make enough of a difference to justify $200. I'm thinking about returning it, or selling it so someone else can get the discounted price--that's why I asked you to PM me in case you might be interested in buying it. I also wanted to find out what state you're in, since I'm traveling this weekend.
I actually had an album with Z2 Play shots a couple weeks ago, but already took it down. (I think all the pics are still in my trash folder though, if you're interested in seeing them.)
That's the Thursday Farmer's Market right outside my office
I've never noticed any lag/time issues with focusing or zooming, but then again I wasn't really trying/paying attention, literally just walking around doing point and shoot with no effort (the way most of us take our pictures on the fly). I knew from reading reviews this time around that I needed to press the shutter button halfway down, wait for it to focus, and then press the rest of the way to take the picture. One thing that did scare me a bit was that I started getting 'camera error' message issues after taking pics, and wasn't able to save those pics. I kept taking the mod on and off, restarting it manually, etc. It finally went back to working normally, but I don't know what caused it or how to fix it.... I've seen some user reviews that it just stopped working after a few months but am not sure how/why.
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I have the original Soundboost and think it is awesome, and that you will be impressed if v2 is even better. It is LOUD and sounds great even at high volume. Beware though, it will kill your phone's battery even though it has battery capacity of it's own. Basically, the louder the volume the more power is required.
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A bit OT--I'm excited, finally got my notification that the free Soundboost 2 mod (promo with the new Play) is finally shipping. Though why it says allow up to 2-3 more weeks for delivery, I don't know... Can't wait! Wish I had it for my trip this weekend, where I'll be showing off my new phone and mods (but at the moment I only have the camera mod) to my son and his girlfriend (sophomore/junior in college). I wonder if he'll be jealous, LOL, since he's gotten sucked over to the dark side in the past couple years (iPhone).
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Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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No.
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Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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Nope. Because the reviews out at this point are early impressions based on not reaching expectations based on hype. Nothing ever hits that, and every phone review is basically the same as a result.
In the end, this is the best Android phone out there, and likely will remain the best for a year. Nobody else does "no compromises" phones anymore, because everyone else knows nobody will pay the money that it costs to do it. Samsung is the only player out there willing to take the risk of putting out a phone that checks all the boxes, and that's all I really care about - I am tired of paying close to a thousand bucks for a phone that has skimped out and leaves me wanting to upgrade a year later, and at this point in my life I can afford to pay more so I can just keep my damned phone for 2 or 3 years rather than regretting some annoyance 6 months later.
Nope, as long as it is better than my Pixel 4 xl.
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Been reading every review I've come across on the 20 U and they all have been saying the same thing, not worth the money, camera is barely better than 10, if at all. Has anyone cancelled their order because of this and going to wait it out? On the fence, as I've seen the pixel "getting fixed" , now several months later and still isn't. If anyone has come across a review, post latest update, please share. TIA
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I didn't get the impression that anyone was saying the camera wasn't better than the S10, only that the autofocus is slower. The camera is better than everything and on par with the iPhone 11 pro from everything I read.
Granted, it's hard to say a $1400 phone is worth it for the average consumer when the Pixel 3a and Chinese phones exist.
Maybe because it looks worse than my Note 10+ which looks worse than my 11 Pro Max which is king when it comes to video and night mode!
My delivery date is 03/17/2020 so plenty of time. Don't think that cancel button is going away any time soon. Real reviews will be live in a week running updated firmware.
After learning of the Samsung store's 15% restocking fee (!), I certainly don't want to make a $240 mistake.
Reviews are not horrible and everyone forget that phone is still 1 full week from officially launching. Everytime I get a phone on launch day, as it activates I get a software update. I'll be super surprised if there isn't a big update in the works coming in a few days
I'm going to try the phone out myself. People get way too emotional about new phones to give objective opinions and as others said, it isn't even released yet. I too have a P4XL and if I like it better, I'll keep it. I can afford it or I wouldn't have ordered it. I also just read Samsung's return policy on their website. It says you have 15 days to return a phone at no cost to you, shipping is even covered. I returned a phone a couple years ago and that's how it was. If that policy had changed I would think their website would reflect the change. returns
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Reviews are not horrible and everyone forget that phone is still 1 full week from officially launching. Everytime I get a phone on launch day, as it activates I get a software update. I'll be super surprised if there isn't a big update in the works coming in a few days
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We know for certain that there's an update to let you turn on 120hz mode at full resolution, and one to improve auto-focus performance.
The auto-focus thing is not really a focus issue so much as an artifact that has to do with the larger sensors and lenses - it behaves a lot more like an SLR than a phone camera in terms of focal length and F.stop, and hence the depth of field detection needs tuning. It's the same reason that the phone gives such incredible bokeh even without turning on portrait mode. Think of it more like the transition from fixed focus to auto-focus cameras, and how people had trouble getting good shots in the early days. More savvy reviewers picked up on this and were already correcting for it themselves by the time of their reviews.
Bottom line is this isn't likely ever going to be as "point and shoot" as other phones are, but they can tune things better than they are now and are working on doing so. In exchange, when you go into pro mode you should be able to do a lot of things that you simply can't with other phone cameras.
Most of the negativity has been about:
Value for money
Specific camera attributes especially the worthiness of 100x zoom
Battery impact of 120Hz refresh rate
Size, weight, and protrusion of the camera array
Missing headphone jack
Boring and limited colors
My thoughts:
With $1K phones not so unusual any more I guess value is relative. With Samsung's liberal trade-in programs a lot of people are going to being paying a lot that than $1.3K.
From reading the reviews improved low light, excellent zoom up to 10x, and multiple ways to take everyday photos will make the camera great and a step up based on the way I use it. I do think some of the issues like occasionally wonky auto focus will be corrected with s/w.
I'll probably use 120Hz and probably have more than enough battery to get through my day. I'll turn it off when I'm travelling when battery is more important than smoothness. I'd bet fine tuning via s/w improves 120Hz performance over time.
I currently have a Galaxy Fold so the S20 Ultra will seem small. But for those used to big phones it's just another big phone. The camera array is pretty in your face but most cases minimize it. I ordered a black phone to help make the camera array less in your face.
Yesterday's news.
Whether black and gray are livable is individually subjective. Don't like black and gray? Don't buy the phone.
This is the first 5G phone that theoretically supports the deployed bands. That's kind of big and kind of cool. I'm on AT&T and cities I travel to have real 5G so it'll be neat using it. AT&T'rs with long term plans for this phone keep in mind their changing their topology in 2021 and it won't work after that. Other than that it's just another solid evolution of the things Samsung does well. I'm guessing for those buying it the phone's assets weighed against its liabilities still make it worth purchasing. To each their own.
How many people actually stop and write a good review, very few because they are busy enjoying their new phone.
I'm gonna rock the Ultra 5g 512gb.Cosmic Black and wait till the Note 20 5g drops and see how Samsung improves and streamlines from the S20 Ultra to the Note 20 plus, with the trade ins each time and the bonus credits of preordering,Still not a bad deal,plus 6.9 inch 120 htz.refresh rate.I'm perfectly happy with that.as for the bland colors I always put a case on it from day one so problem solved on that,but I dont mind Cosmic Black at all either.
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Maybe because it looks worse than my Note 10+ which looks worse than my 11 Pro Max which is king when it comes to video and night mode!
My delivery date is 03/17/2020 so plenty of time. Don't think that cancel button is going away any time soon. Real reviews will be live in a week running updated firmware.
After learning of the Samsung store's 15% restocking fee (!), I certainly don't want to make a $240 mistake.
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Where did you hear about a 15% restocking fee? I don't see anything about that on the Samsung site (at least for the US Store) and I chatted with a Samsung rep who confirmed that there is no restocking fee for opened phones.
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Where did you hear about a 15% restocking fee? I don't see anything about that on the Samsung site (at least for the US Store) and I chatted with a Samsung rep who confirmed that there is no restocking fee for opened phones.
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Samsung seems to have multiple FAQ stores, some claim 15% on most items, others don't.
I returned a S10+, and don't remember a restocking fee, but I also have problems remembering what I did yesterday so.
My new S20 Ultra is here
On Friday, I got my brand new, cosmic black S20 Ultra, to replace my S10+ and there is no doubt that the S20 Ultra is the best phone I have ever used. It is better in every respect than any other phone including the note 10+: The screen is unbelievable sharp with amazing colors and contrast. Camera is quick and snappy and the photos are the best I have ever seen from a phone. So, don't hesitate!! Buy this phone and you won't regret it!! I also got the best case for the S20, the Speck Presidio Grip.. Expensive but the best money can buy.. Go for it
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On Friday, I got my brand new, cosmic black S20 Ultra, to replace my S10+ and there is no doubt that the S20 Ultra is the best phone I have ever used. It is better in every respect than any other phone including the note 10+: The screen is unbelievable sharp with amazing colors and contrast. Camera is quick and snappy and the photos are the best I have ever seen from a phone. So, don't hesitate!! Buy this phone and you won't regret it!! I also got the best case for the S20, the Speck Presidio Grip.. Expensive but the best money can buy.. Go for it
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What SW is it running? Does it have the new one with supposedly updated camera sw?
i dont really trust the reviewers on youtube. there will always be criticisms to try to be objective. but all the reviews are subjective no matter what.
people are going to say 5g is not worth it yet. but later, 5g will be used all over, and this phone will not be outdated by not having 5g.
i guess what im saying is, there are uneducated reviews about products on youtube
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what sw is it running? Does it have the new one with supposedly updated camera sw?
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Honestly, I have not read any horrible reviews. What I have read are several excellent reviews that also mention there are some issues with the Camera - but which look like they can be fixed with a future software update.
Certainly, it would be ideal to get a new phone and have everything work perfectly - -unfortunately, that isn't reality. The S20 Ultra still appears be an incredible phone - it just has a few software issues that need to be taken care of. I am stil feeling really good about the phone and feel confident that Samsung will provide u pdates to otake care of those issues.
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i dont really trust the reviewers on youtube. there will always be criticisms to try to be objective. but all the reviews are subjective no matter what.
people are going to say 5g is not worth it yet. but later, 5g will be used all over, and this phone will not be outdated by not having 5g.
i guess what im saying is, there are uneducated reviews about products on youtube
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4G still good today. Also, 5G will not be avaliable in every country in at least 10 years so, unless you live in US or any country that has any plans of starting to use 5G in a short period of time (2-4 years), is pretty worthless. Probably after 3-4 years (being generous) you will change your phone and you would never have used 5G in that time.
Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
I too would like to know. However I am keeping mine as I have already traded in my iPhone 11 pro. I am just kinda stuck right now, and am just as frustrated that NO info is available for the snapdragon version. I am also unsure if my unlocked version will get it direct or if I will need to wait for it.
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Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
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Nobody has a crystal ball and return it if your unhappy.
We're just gonna have to wait it out. Samsung is SLOW with their updates.
April update.
I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
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It can be made better to where it works really well in daytime brightness. But will never be very good in low light. Most likely Manual Focus will be needed for very low light situations. That is because the S20 and s20+ use Dual Pixel Auto Focus (DPAF) and the Ultra uses a Phase Detection Auto Focus (PDAF) which is good for fast auto focusing in bright situations like daytime but terrible in low light.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Shot suggestion was off by default on mine and I disabled scene optimizer as well.
Better question is why aren't the android sites or blogs picking up the auto focus/ camera story? Maybe a little more exposure will hurry Samsung to fix due to bad press.
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Better question is why aren't the android sites or blogs picking up the auto focus/ camera story? Maybe a little more exposure will hurry Samsung to fix due to bad press.
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I got Banned for pushing the issue in Samsung community. They obviously don't like the bad press.
Apparently Samsung has released a fix for Exynos variant https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s20-firmware-update-rolling-out-fix-camera-autofocus/
The only early review I saw that mentioned it was MKBHD and by that time my phone was already in transit heading to me.
Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Zirox said:
Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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Tell us how you really feel....Nobody forced you to buy it and why didnt you return it within the 15 days then?
Man, have some patience. This is a minor issue which only affects a small amount of people. Relax.
There is going to be an update in the next few days. https://www.androidcentral.com/late...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
Commies said:
Man, have some patience. This is a minor issue which only affects a small amount of people. Relax.
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Seems to me it's pretty much across the board, not just on a small amount of people.
I cancelled an Ultra 512GB due to the many problems discussed in multiple places about the phone. If they ever fix it, I'll reconsider a purchase; but it has to be fixed first.
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chronos7 said:
There is going to be an update in the next few days. https://www.androidcentral.com/late...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
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But not yet for the Qualcomm phones.
DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
Seems to me it's pretty much across the board, not just on a small amount of people.
I cancelled an Ultra 512GB due to the many problems discussed in multiple places about the phone. If they ever fix it, I'll reconsider a purchase; but it has to be fixed first.
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But not yet for the Qualcomm phones.
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It's not across the board. Not a single person I know (including myself) who bought the phone is having the issues. Just a select few online.
nique0201 said:
I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Zirox said:
Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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Commies said:
It's not across the board. Not a single person I know (including myself) who bought the phone is having the issues. Just a select few online.
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Thta's not accurate, the auto-focus is unusable on anything close.
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Thta's not accurate, the auto-focus is unusable on anything close.
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Maybe for you. It's fine for me and everyone I know with Snapdragon. My point isn't that it's not happening. It's that it's not happening to the majority of people and even if it was, it's not something that would be considered high priority.