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This may be premature since the phones haven't shipped yet but when I go to order the phone on Google's website they give an option for a Verizon version with a sim card or an unlocked version. If both phones are the same except one has a locked bootloader then why bother to do this? Why not let Verizon sell their own variant with a locked bootloader? Are there any disadvantages or missing features when using the unlocked version on Verizon???
If both phones were the same and acted the same when on Verizon then I'd be royally pissed if I bought the Verizon pixel from Google's site only to find it had a locked bootloader. I'll bet that a lot of people will buy the Verizon version from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can still be unlocked because they bought it from Google and not at the Verizon store. I'm surprised more people aren't discussing this and warning others. In the past if you bought a gen. 1 pixel from the Google store it was guaranteed to be unlockable but now it doesn't seem to be the case and Verizon probably convinced Google to con purchasers into doing this since they get such a hard-on about locking bootloaders.
Now if the unlocked version doesn't work the same on the Verizon network (I.e. Volte does not work or signal strength isn't as good then I don't feel too bad about Google selling both variants directly from their store.
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I don't believe the Gen 1 Verizon pixel was ever intended to have an unlockable bootloader.
No it wasn't but there was no way to purchase a Verizon Gen 1 pixel from Google like there is for the Gen 2. If you wanted an unlocked bootloader you just bought the only pixel offered on the Google store. Now there is two options from the same store. I'm just worried that people will get the Verizon version from the Google store (not Verizon store) thinking that it's unlocked because they bought it from Google, not Verizon.
Do both phones (Verizon and unlocked versions) operate on the same bands with same features when activated on Verizon network?
The option for the version states that a SIM is included. My only guess is that they toss a SIM card in the box for you if you select Verizon.
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I was wondering the same thing, I plan on activating on Verizon when I receive my unlocked XL 2. But decided to buy the unlocked version just in case there was something stupid like a locked down bootloader or something weird.
I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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Go in and reorder it, I switched from a Panda Verizon XL 2 128gb that was gonna get delivered Nov7-9th to just black 128gb xl 2 unlocked which said Oct 25th. The shipping dates havent really changed much.
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I ordered mine so fast I'm worried I selected the Verizon version by accident. In order status it shows nothing about whether you ordered the unlocked or the Verizon version. Can someone that ordered a Verizon version check and see if their order status says Verizon or anything? Mine just says Pixel 2 XL (128 GB, Just Black). No mention of unlocked or Verizon anywhere.
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Same for me: no mention of Unlocked or Verizon on order acknowledgment...
If you are unsure, the advice to cancel and reorder is good, just with penalty of
later shipping.
I ordered mine while *slightly inebriated" last night. This morning I simply canceled my order and reordered it while 100% sober so that I knew 100% that I ordered an unlocked version and not the Verizon model. The order history didn't state unlocked or Verizon so I just wasn't sure... You can't be too sure of these types of things lol =)
Thanks for the post. I made the mistake of ordering the Verizon version. It does say this in the description on the order confirmation. Reordered and delivery date was reduced to October 27 from Nov 20.
(64 GB, Just Black, Verizon SIM-enabled
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It would be the first time for me to order a google (pixel) phone.
Im am from Germany, will the pixel from "Deutsche Telekom" (T-Mobile) be different than the one straight from the google store? :/
@EDIT: Asked the Support from Telekom Deutschland and tehy told me, that there isnt a difference between the Telekom Device and the Google Store Device in relation to Bootloader, updates or bloatware.
Can anyone verify if the unlocked version works the same as the Verizon version when on the Verizon network? Does volte and vvm work the same? Does the unlocked version have access to the same cell towers and lte bands? Or does Verizon cripple some features on the unlocked variant?
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Can anyone verify if the unlocked version works the same as the Verizon version when on the Verizon network? Does volte and vvm work the same? Does the unlocked version have access to the same cell towers and lte bands? Or does Verizon cripple some features on the unlocked variant?
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On the old Pixel XL it worked the same on either model. I had an unlocked Pixel XL and a Verizon Pixel and they both worked the same with features. VoLTE and VVM both worked fine. The only difference was the unlocked model showed as "other" Pixel device with a generic picture in my Verizon account and the Verizon pixel showed as "Verizon Pixel" with an actual picture of the phone.
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Thanks for the post. I made the mistake of ordering the Verizon version. It does say this in the description on the order confirmation. Reordered and delivery date was reduced to October 27 from Nov 20.
(64 GB, Just Black, Verizon SIM-enabled
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Thanks for confirming. I think I'm ok then since it looks like the Verizon version actually states it in the order status.
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On the old Pixel XL it worked the same on either model. I had an unlocked Pixel XL and a Verizon Pixel and they both worked the same with features. VoLTE and VVM both worked fine. The only difference was the unlocked model showed as "other" Pixel device with a generic picture in my Verizon account and the Verizon pixel showed as "Verizon Pixel" with an actual picture of the phone.
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Thanks for confirming. I think I'm ok then since it looks like the Verizon version actually states it in the order status.
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Would this also apply if you order the Pixel 2 XL from Verizon directly?
This is happening exactly as I predicted. People are being duped into buying the Verizon pixel 2 from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can be unlocked because they purchased from the Google store instead of the Verizon store.
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This is happening exactly as I predicted. People are being duped into buying the Verizon pixel 2 from the Google store thinking that the bootloader can be unlocked because they purchased from the Google store instead of the Verizon store.
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I can get the Verizon version directly from them through my work for $350, that is why I was wondering.
Can someone who ordered the Verizon Pixel show a snippet of the confirmation page?
If VZW version is the same as the unlocked one, and Google is simply throwing in the SIM card, insert the VZW SIM card after turn on the phone and unlock the bootloader.
Google Customer service confirmed to me on the phone that bootloader for Verizon version is locked but should get OS and security patch updates directly from Google if bought from Google Store. He wasn't sure about OS updates if phone is bought from Verizon.
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Google Customer service confirmed to me on the phone that bootloader for Verizon version is locked but should get OS and security patch updates directly from Google if bought from Google Store. He wasn't sure about OS updates if phone is bought from Verizon.
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Well last year was the Pixel different when ordering directly from Verizon with updates?
The boot loader unlocked really is not necessary in my case because I would be happy just to be on stock Android with regular updates.
Hello guys. I want to buy new Pixel 2 XL, and best offer I have found is brand new from USA. Price is much lower then in regular polish shops, so I want to ask, is there any possibility that the phone will not work right in Poland? Maybe some options will be locked? Or there will be problem with updates?
I have Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from USA now and I can't update it cause it's from AT&T (worst mistake i could do), and I don't want to be dissapointed again.
Also, second thing, is the screen really that bad as they write in reviews? How is it compared to Galaxy Note 4, worse? There are so many mixed reviews, some praise the screen, some say that it is crap. Are there different versions of this phone or what?
Thank you very much for help.
pixel updates are not regulated by carrier, however make sure the bands supported on the american pixel are same as the bands used in poland. as far as i know america uses different bands compared to europe and rest of the world.
some screens are worse than others, but there is now way of confirming as some people with newer batches have also had complaints with the screen. and if pixel is not officially available in your country, you wont be able to rma also and i'm not sure how the warranty would work there in poland.
I would think as long as it's an unlocked USA phone and not from Verizon it should be fine if your country's bands are listed.
As for the screen, the blue shift and black crushing is there but it's not that bad. My wife had the Note 4 and it was a good screen for the time of release but I would say it's worse than that.
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Hello guys. I want to buy new Pixel 2 XL, and best offer I have found is brand new from USA. Price is much lower then in regular polish shops, so I want to ask, is there any possibility that the phone will not work right in Poland? Maybe some options will be locked? Or there will be problem with updates?
I have Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from USA now and I can't update it cause it's from AT&T (worst mistake i could do), and I don't want to be dissapointed again.
Also, second thing, is the screen really that bad as they write in reviews? How is it compared to Galaxy Note 4, worse? There are so many mixed reviews, some praise the screen, some say that it is crap. Are there different versions of this phone or what?
Thank you very much for help.
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Ok, seller says that it works in Poland. I just make sure that it is not from Verizon.
About screen, if it is better than Note 4, than it is just fine for me. I've made my decision, I will be Pixel 2 XL owner thank you very much for help.
Hey there! Neighbor here, I'm Lithuanian. 3 days ago I bought mine from USA as well. Works fine, just buy a USA to EU charger adapter beforehand
By the way, switched from Note 4. Screen is a bit more dull compared to Note 4 but I kinda dig it and you can always use Saturated mode, so that's not a problem.
Also, camera, I'm shooting everything everywhere, can't get enough of it.
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Ok, seller says that it works in Poland. I just make sure that it is not from Verizon.
About screen, if it is better than Note 4, than it is just fine for me. I've made my decision, I will be Pixel 2 XL owner thank you very much for help.
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Why Verizon one is not recommended?
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If you want to unlock the bootloader one day, you can't with Verizon. If that doesn't matter, then go ahead. The Verizon phone will work with the same SIM cards the carrier free US one does.
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Why Verizon one is not recommended?
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Why Verizon one is not recommended?
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It's because phones sold by carriers are locked to only that carrier. If you were to get the one from Verizon and put in your SIM card you'd get something like "Invalid SIM". Phones can be unlocked but Verizon would have to give you the needed info.
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nikhil.agrawal said:
pixel updates are not regulated by carrier, however make sure the bands supported on the american pixel are same as the bands used in poland. as far as i know america uses different bands compared to europe and rest of the world.
some screens are worse than others, but there is now way of confirming as some people with newer batches have also had complaints with the screen. and if pixel is not officially available in your country, you wont be able to rma also and i'm not sure how the warranty would work there in poland.
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There is no "American" Pixel 2. It's the same phone sold everywhere. Either the phone supports the bands used in Poland or it doesn't. The original post did say the phone is sold in stores in Poland so I'm guessing the Pixel 2 supports bands used in Poland or stores wouldn't sell it.
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It's because phones sold by carriers are locked to only that carrier. If you were to get the one from Verizon and put in your SIM card you'd get something like "Invalid SIM". Phones can be unlocked but Verizon would have to give you the needed info.
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There is no "American" Pixel 2. It's the same phone sold everywhere. Either the phone supports the bands used in Poland or it doesn't. The original post did say the phone is sold in stores in Poland so I'm guessing the Pixel 2 supports bands used in Poland or stores wouldn't sell it.
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Yes, my bad. I totally missed how the new phones support all bands. The band thing I said earlier used to be a thing of past. A few years back American phones didn't used to work in India or other countries due to the bands supported in states were different.
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It's because phones sold by carriers are locked to only that carrier. If you were to get the one from Verizon and put in your SIM card you'd get something like "Invalid SIM". Phones can be unlocked but Verizon would have to give you the needed info.
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There is no "American" Pixel 2. It's the same phone sold everywhere. Either the phone supports the bands used in Poland or it doesn't. The original post did say the phone is sold in stores in Poland so I'm guessing the Pixel 2 supports bands used in Poland or stores wouldn't sell it.
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Verizon LTE phones are carrier unlocked from the get go.
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Verizon LTE phones are carrier unlocked from the get go.
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If that's true it's a very recent change. A co-worker of mine is on T-Mobile. He bought a used Pixel XL last November. He tried to put in his T-Mobile SIM card and it didn't work. He discovered that it was originally bought from Verizon. He put in a family member's Verizon SIM card and it worked fine.
I've also never heard of ANY carrier selling a phone that is carrier unlocked.
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If that's true it's a very recent change. A co-worker of mine is on T-Mobile. He bought a used Pixel XL last November. He tried to put in his T-Mobile SIM card and it didn't work. He discovered that it was originally bought from Verizon. He put in a family member's Verizon SIM card and it worked fine.
I've also never heard of ANY carrier selling a phone that is carrier unlocked.
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Verizon has had to sell LTE phones unlocked since their won the 700 mhz block c in 2008. They are actually about to lock the new ones down this year. I bought a pixel XL in Nov 2016 and switched to TMobile in June 2017 and didn't have a single issue. I know have a pixel 2 xl on TMobile with no issues. Interesting that he had issues with it.
https://www.droid-life.com/2017/10/09/which-google-pixel-2-verizon-or-unlocked/
Start reading at "Both versions work everywhere"
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EeZeEpEe said:
https://www.droid-life.com/2017/10/09/which-google-pixel-2-verizon-or-unlocked/
Start reading at "Both versions work everywhere"
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That's strange. I only have the experience of one single phone so I can't really make a general statement. All I can say is that for that one phone what is said in that Droid Life article isn't true. The phone worked with a Verizon SIM but not a T-Mobile SIM. If the phone was unlocked then maybe something else could cause that?
The reason not to get a Verizon P2XL is they lock the bootloader so it can't be rooted. As noted above they don't SIM lock devices, and haven't done so for years. Prepaid may be the exception to that, but I stay away from Verizon.
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Verizon has had to sell LTE phones unlocked since their won the 700 mhz block c in 2008. They are actually about to lock the new ones down this year. I bought a pixel XL in Nov 2016 and switched to TMobile in June 2017 and didn't have a single issue. I know have a pixel 2 xl on TMobile with no issues. Interesting that he had issues with it.
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When you say "They are actually about to lock the new ones down this year."
What do you mean? There is a policy change on SIM locking?
Edit: Found my own answer.
https://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-will-lock-its-smartphones-to-combat-theft/
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The reason not to get a Verizon P2XL is they lock the bootloader so it can't be rooted. As noted above they don't SIM lock devices, and haven't done so for years. Prepaid may be the exception to that, but I stay away from Verizon.
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I don't think that is universally true. As I said in a previous comment the original Pixel XL, or at least one of them, was locked to Verizon. Did Verizon sell the Pixel XL as a prepaid phone? Maybe the Verizon Pixel XL my co-worker bought was originally sold as a prepaid device and that's why it was locked?
Maybe. I don't know and don't care to know as I don't do silly crap like buy Verizon or AT&T devices.
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I don't think that is universally true. As I said in a previous comment the original Pixel XL, or at least one of them, was locked to Verizon. Did Verizon sell the Pixel XL as a prepaid phone? Maybe the Verizon Pixel XL my co-worker bought was originally sold as a prepaid device and that's why it was locked?
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Google locks them all, theirs and VZs when they are first sold.. When they first start up they phone home and check a database on a server at Google to see if it has permission to unlock.
On the OG Pixel and OG XL there were quite a few errors in that system and VZ phones got permission to unlock. Still happens on the 2's but not as often.
That's it, a simple error in a database at Google.
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Google locks them all, theirs and VZs when they are first sold.. When they first start up they phone home and check a database on a server at Google to see if it has permission to unlock.
On the OG Pixel and OG XL there were quite a few errors in that system and VZ phones got permission to unlock. Still happens on the 2's but not as often.
That's it, a simple error in a database at Google.
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And that would cause a used Pixel XL that was already used on Verizon to work for ONLY Verizon but not for any other carrier? So when it was first activated on Verizon it was only unlocked for Verizon?
Hi all,
I live in the UK and use an unlocked Verizon Pixel XL which I imported from the States. My SIM-only contract is due for renewal, and one of the factors I'm looking at for my next carrier is VoLTE compatibility.
Most of the carriers here require you to have bought a Pixel directly from them for VoLTE to be enabled, but the EE network says that all Pixel XL owners should be able to get VoLTE on their network, even if they didn't buy their phone from EE.
My question is: does the fact that my Pixel XL is the Verizon edition affect that? Have Verizon implemented some kind of region lock for this feature?
I took mine to London last year and used EE. My XL came from Verizon. I had no problems everything worked fine inc. VoLTE.
nato844 said:
I took mine to London last year and used EE. My XL came from Verizon. I had no problems everything worked fine inc. VoLTE.
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Couldn't have asked for a more perfect response! Thanks!
I know they sell an unlocked, Verizon and GoogleFi versions of the phone. The unlocked will work on Sprint, AT&T, etc... but I've found a seller that says it will work on AT&T (and other GSM), but not Sprint. Are they correct or should it work on Sprint too?
Any help is appreciated, cracked my 2XL screen last night and figured I'd have a minor upgrade since most all replacement screens/digitizer combos are out of stock most every where (for a decent price).
I work for best buy as a mobile rep, and all versions should support sprint. I've activated the Verizon and Google fi edition (which is just the regular unlocked version) on sprint with no issues. You primary just need the sprint 4-1 byod sim kit
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I work for best buy as a mobile rep, and all versions should support sprint. I've activated the Verizon and Google fi edition (which is just the regular unlocked version) on sprint with no issues. You primary just need the sprint 4-1 byod sim kit
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Thanks for the quick reply and help! I suspected it wouldn't be an issue, but figured I'd ask the experts to be safe. Thanks again!
I purchased a Pixel XL from eBay because I read it was easy to unlock the bootloader. I must have received a Verizon model, because the OEM unlock option was disabled, despite spending an entire day trying every method to enable it that I could find. I finally gave up and returned the phone.
How do I go about finding a Pixel XL that's bootloader unlockable? The one I previously ordered was described as "New Google Pixel XL AT&T T-Mob Verizon", which indicated to me that it wasn't a Verizon specific model. Are there certain model numbers to look for? Does "factory unlocked" refer to the bootloader?
terzarima said:
I purchased a Pixel XL from eBay because I read it was easy to unlock the bootloader. I must have received a Verizon model, because the OEM unlock option was disabled, despite spending an entire day trying every method to enable it that I could find. I finally gave up and returned the phone.
How do I go about finding a Pixel XL that's bootloader unlockable? The one I previously ordered was described as "New Google Pixel XL AT&T T-Mob Verizon", which indicated to me that it wasn't a Verizon specific model. Are there certain model numbers to look for? Does "factory unlocked" refer to the bootloader?
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People that put unlocked/Factory unlocked in their description usually mean carrier unlocked not bootloader unlockable or bootloader unlocked. If I remember correctly a Pixel XL with an IMEI that starts with 35 is not bootloader unlockable.
terzarima said:
I purchased a Pixel XL from eBay because I read it was easy to unlock the bootloader. I must have received a Verizon model, because the OEM unlock option was disabled, despite spending an entire day trying every method to enable it that I could find. I finally gave up and returned the phone.
How do I go about finding a Pixel XL that's bootloader unlockable? The one I previously ordered was described as "New Google Pixel XL AT&T T-Mob Verizon", which indicated to me that it wasn't a Verizon specific model. Are there certain model numbers to look for? Does "factory unlocked" refer to the bootloader?
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https://swappa.com/mobile/buy/google-pixel-xl/unlocked
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https://swappa.com/mobile/buy/google-pixel-xl/unlocked
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In this context, does "unlocked" mean the bootloader is unlocked or it's just not locked to the Verizon network?
terzarima said:
In this context, does "unlocked" mean the bootloader is unlocked or it's just not locked to the Verizon network?
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Not locked to Verizon.
The following phones can be unlocked using a simple fastboot command. Doing so will not void the device's warranty, as the manufacturer has intentionally included this functionality.
Google Pixel, Pixel 2, Pixel 3 (non-Verizon models)
Google Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL, Pixel 3 XL (non-Verizon models)
Be certain to check the IMEI, Verizon models have an IMEI starting with 35 vs Google's 99
Keep in mind, SIM unlock and Bootloader unlock are two different things. You need to determine if your device is a Verizon SIM unlocked phone which allows you to use on any network with any SIM.
rodken said:
Not locked to Verizon.
The following phones can be unlocked using a simple fastboot command. Doing so will not void the device's warranty, as the manufacturer has intentionally included this functionality.
Google Pixel, Pixel 2, Pixel 3 (non-Verizon models)
Google Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL, Pixel 3 XL (non-Verizon models)
Be certain to check the IMEI, Verizon models have an IMEI starting with 35 vs Google's 99
Keep in mind, SIM unlock and Bootloader unlock are two different things. You need to determine if your device is a Verizon SIM unlocked phone which allows you to use on any network with any SIM.
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If the bootloader is unlockable doesn't that mean you can use it on any carrier?
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If the bootloader is unlockable doesn't that mean you can use it on any carrier?
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That is correct. Bear in mind that when you see a device advertised as unlocked, it is referring to the SIM not the bootloader unless other wise stated in the descrip.
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Be certain to check the IMEI, Verizon models have an IMEI starting with 35 vs Google's 99
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So the only way to tell is to turn the device on and check the IMEI? I was hoping there would be something printed on the box or on the back of the phone, like a UPC or model number.
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So the only way to tell is to turn the device on and check the IMEI? I was hoping there would be something printed on the box or on the back of the phone, like a UPC or model number.
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If it's not printed on the box, you would have to power on the device.
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If it's not printed on the box, you would have to power on the device.
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What about the model number? I just noticed this on Wikipedia:
G-2PW2100 (North America)
G-2PW2200 (International)
Is the international version guaranteed to be non-Verizon? Would it even work in the US?
I also read somewhere that the non-Verizon model number includes 01x, while the Verizon model number has 02x. Is that accurate?
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What about the model number? I just noticed this on Wikipedia:
G-2PW2100 (North America)
G-2PW2200 (International)
Is the international version guaranteed to be non-Verizon? Would it even work in the US?
I also read somewhere that the non-Verizon model number includes 01x, while the Verizon model number has 02x. Is that accurate?
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Google Pixel XL G-2PW2100 32GB; Network compatibility with all four major carriers.
Google Pixel XL G-2PW2200; Network compatibility with only AT&T and T-Mobile.
Keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. But it is always a great place to start.
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Google Pixel XL G-2PW2100 32GB; Network compatibility with all four major carriers.
Google Pixel XL G-2PW2200; Network compatibility with only AT&T and T-Mobile.
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I have a theory in that case. If the phone is listed as GSM only, then it's guaranteed to be non-Verizon. Right?
terzarima said:
I have a theory in that case. If the phone is listed as GSM only, then it's guaranteed to be non-Verizon. Right?
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If the phone does not have CDMA capabilities you would not be able activate the phone on Verizon. Whichever device you are considering needs to have the LTE band 13 for Verizon Wireless. Then it should also have the CDMA radios for Verizon Wireless unless it could function as an LTE only device with VoLTE. Verizon Compatibility Tool.
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If the phone does not have CDMA capabilities you would not be able activate the phone on Verizon. Whichever device you are considering needs to have the LTE band 13 for Verizon Wireless. Then it should also have the CDMA radios for Verizon Wireless unless it could function as an LTE only device with VoLTE. Verizon Compatibility Tool.
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Well, remember the question I'm trying to answer is how to ensure a phone I buy will be bootloader unlockable. I'm not interested in activating it on Verizon. My theory is that if the phone is GMS only, then it must be a Google model and therefore unlockable.
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Well, remember the question I'm trying to answer is how to ensure a phone I buy will be bootloader unlockable. I'm not interested in activating it on Verizon. My theory is that if the phone is GMS only, then it must be a Google model and therefore unlockable.
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Let's be clear, Google Pixel and Pixel XL have unlockable bootloaders, with the exception of models purchased from Verizon or a Verizon branded device. Your theory does have enough evidence to support the hypothesis, GMS only, Unlockable Bootloader.
I'm currently on a Pixel 3XL but have a Pixel XL international model and it works perfect on Verizon. When I bought it, it was too insure that I received one with an unlockable BL and not the Verizon variety.
Gulfstream 650 said:
I'm currently on a Pixel 3XL but have a Pixel XL international model and it works perfect on Verizon. When I bought it, it was too insure that I received one with an unlockable BL and not the Verizon variety.
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If you have a Pixel/Pixel XL with an unlockable bootloader, not a carrier unlocked Pixel/Pixel XL you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Guide (#3 Unlock bootloader).