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[Q] ARC camera resolution

Hello everyone!
I recently bought a Sony Ericsson Arc and the images taken by its camera look pretty good on the phone it self, but wen it comes to downloading them on PC the results are quite unexpected. the image resolution is poor 400xXXX pixels or less and size is about 600kb (same shown in astro file explorer) although its taken on 8mpx settings and same with using HDR camera. I use universal android suit (i dont know maybe i need original sofware?) The question is how do I fix that Resolution problem? what settings and where? pls help

cczr1 said:
Hello everyone!
I recently bought a Sony Ericsson Arc and the images taken by its camera look pretty good on the phone it self, but wen it comes to downloading them on PC the results are quite unexpected. the image resolution is poor 400xXXX pixels or less and size is about 600kb (same shown in astro file explorer) although its taken on 8mpx settings and same with using HDR camera. I use universal android suit (i dont know maybe i need original sofware?) The question is how do I fix that Resolution problem? what settings and where? pls help
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i don't believe hdr camera supports full resolution even if it claims it. Take a picture with the stock camera and check the resolution on that. What's universal Android suit?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
i don't believe hdr camera supports full resolution even if it claims it. Take a picture with the stock camera and check the resolution on that. What's universal Android suit?
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HDR camera does support full resolution, I have taking several pictures with both SE camera app, HDR camera and Vignette all at 8MP and compared them with 100-200% magnification, the resolution on each is exactly the same, there is absolute no difference in the details recorded.
HDR camera does after combining three pictures increase color saturation and contrast for the whole picture and fine details. This makes the pictures look like they have more details but up close it is easy to see the same amount of details and same pixel sizes.
I have decided to uninstall Vignette as it add some very weird "pixel curtain" all over the pictures which initially gives it a larger file size as it add additional pixels which is not supposed to be there. This could give the wrong impression that it contains more details which is not the case.

[Q] Camera problems

Hello!
I need some assistance regarding the HOX stock camera app.
You see, the photos i tace with the One X turns out really bad.
My old (old, old, old) iPhone 3GS kicks this one's ass.
The images turns out grainy and low res. It's set to 8mpx and all settings are stock.
Now i thought it was a hardware problem but when trying other camera apps souch as Camera Zoom FX they turn out pretty great.
The stock camera app pictures is about 1.5-1.7 mb while the Camera Zoom fx are at a natural ca 3.5mb.
Photo taken with stock camera app: 8mpx: http://oi45.tinypic.com/n2odar.jpg
Photo taken with Camera Zoom FX, 8mpx: http://oi48.tinypic.com/i5ver8.jpg
HOX stock: http://oi49.tinypic.com/21dizcx.jpg
Camera Zoom FX: http://oi48.tinypic.com/315cvg0.jpg
What could be causing this problem, or should I simply return it?

Do you have the stock camera app 8mp set to 16:9 or 4:3 format? I noticed with my own testing that the 16:9 format uses less of the sensor and you dont get full 8mp images resulting in lower image size. The 4:3 format is getting me 2.8mb+ image size.

undegaard said:
Hello!
I need some assistance regarding the HOX stock camera app.
You see, the photos i tace with the One X turns out really bad.
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Now i thought it was a hardware problem but when trying other camera apps souch as Camera Zoom FX they turn out pretty great.
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What could be causing this problem, or should I simply return it?
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You seem to have already answered your first question, and as to whether to return it or not because the stock camera app over compresses images, well, up to you.

Stock cam app compresses so you can have burst mode. Third party apps don't have the same speed as stock camera, but compensates with quality. And no, even with the stock app, the 3GS camera is worse.

harlz: I've tried both. 4:3 gives me a slightly better image.
I'ts strange thoug. Yesterday I rebooted the phone and took a picture, the screen was black for about 3 sek and then it took a photo that was just amazingly good. I took about tree more great pictures that ended up on ca 4mb. But now. I'm down to about 2mb and the images just looks like crap.
What could be causing this? Is anyone experiencing something like this?

ArmedandDangerous said:
Stock cam app compresses so you can have burst mode. Third party apps don't have the same speed as stock camera, but compensates with quality. And no, even with the stock app, the 3GS camera is worse.
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Thanks for the help! Or...
Anyway, 3gs photo: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...54128967643_649942642_9781743_388921598_n.jpg
not that superdifferance

undegaard said:
harlz: I've tried both. 4:3 gives me a slightly better image.
I'ts strange thoug. Yesterday I rebooted the phone and took a picture, the screen was black for about 3 sek and then it took a photo that was just amazingly good. I took about tree more great pictures that ended up on ca 4mb. But now. I'm down to about 2mb and the images just looks like crap.
What could be causing this? Is anyone experiencing something like this?
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Sounds like you were using the HDR function of the camera?

undegaard said:
Thanks for the help! Or...
Anyway, 3gs photo: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...54128967643_649942642_9781743_388921598_n.jpg
not that superdifferance
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Well..your image is out of focus so -_-
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach.../1/8/2/4/3/uploadfromtaptalk1335072169687.jpg

Jummy said:
Sounds like you were using the HDR function of the camera?
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I wish I was. But if you look at the picture Its not. Niether is any of the other bad pictures. I made a thread at swedroid and people are experiencing this as well.

Alternative/Best Camera app for op3?

Are Camera apps other than stock that offer same or better quality/focus for crisper images? Just wondering.
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A camera with a much better auto focus is what I am looking for also
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What's the problem with your AF?
Mine works better than on any other phone I've had..

ptoner said:
A camera with a much better auto focus is what I am looking for also
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Agree, is there one? I saw someone who used Open Camera for "pro" Pictures but i havent tested it out yet.
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Apart from specific features and camera2api compatibility,
I did not find a single app yet which can compete with the stock camera app
in terms of general processing quality.
Sure, sometimes the stock app tends to overprocess images, but I guess they can further tweak this with future updates.
( check this video on this matter: http://www108.zippyshare.com/v/KidtanPE/file.html )
I often noticed that faces tend to be overly processed and thus result smoothed-out. This without using HQ or HDR which is bad!
Judging by this issue, it might be better to enable raw or use another app in specific situations.
In terms of white balance abd focus accuracy, they are all more or less the same.

AcmE85 said:
Sure, sometimes the stock app tends to overprocess images, but I guess they can further tweak this with future updates.
( check this video on this matter: http://www108.zippyshare.com/v/KidtanPE/file.html )
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That link is virus as ****.
General balances can be edited but Focus cant. Would be great with an app that locks on a Little better when tapping the screen for Focus.
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markusviktorius said:
That link is virus as ****.
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Would be great with an app that locks on a Little better when tapping the screen for Focus.
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Sorry for any inconvenience produced by this link. I am using an adblocker on my OP3 and my PC so I don't have any issues with zippyshare.
Regarding focus, when using the stock camera app you can lock focus by long pressing on a subject.
Personally I don't have focus issues. My only issue is the processing you can see in my video.
It might actually be the reason why some think that pictures are not correctly focused.
They appear sharp at first, but get blurry after processing has been applied.
I can upload somewhere else if you want. Just tell me a hoster.

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Sorry for any inconvenience produced by this link. I am using an adblocker on my OP3 and my PC so I don't have any issues with zippyshare.
Regarding focus, when using the stock camera app you can lock focus by long pressing on a subject.
Personally I don't have focus issues. My only issue is the processing you can see in my video.
It might actually be the reason why some think that pictures are not correctly focused.
They appear sharp at first, but get blurry after processing has been applied.
I can upload somewhere else if you want. Just tell me a hoster.
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Alright, didnt think you did that on purpose. How about uploading to Youtube? Or any other Place, does not really matter. Oh, i honestly did not know.
I just know that i am too lazy for using the manual tweaks to get perfection?
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markusviktorius said:
How about uploading to Youtube? Or any other Place, does not really matter. Oh, i honestly did not know.
I just know that i am too lazy for using the manual tweaks to get perfection��
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There you go
This is a serious issue OnePlus needs to address and probably the reason many think they have focus issues.

AcmE85 said:
There you go
This is a serious issue OnePlus needs to address and probably the reason many think they have focus issues.
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Thanks! Mine does that too but it flickers 3 Times instead of your 1 time.
Yours get blurry the first time and so does mine, but mine moves back and forth one more time before settling with a pic that is as Good or almost as Good as the first pic shown.
Edit: actually now when i look at it it doesnt flicker in Good lighting, just in semi-poor to poor lighting for some reason..
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Yes, it differs with the lighting. It may sound strange but I was actually happier with the OPO in some situations
because it offered more consistency compared to the OP3 (in daylight).
Off course, the overall quality is much better on the OP3, especially in lowlight, but sometimes you won't know what the postprocessing will actually do with the final image,
mostly with slightly moving subjects (I am not talking about motion blur due to slow shutter-speed!).
I already did some pictures from people which appeared great at first inside the gallery, but then got destroyed by postprocessing!

AcmE85 said:
Yes, it differs with the lighting. It may sound strange but I was actually happier with the OPO in some situations
because it offered more consistency compared to the OP3 (in daylight).
Off course, the overall quality is much better on the OP3, especially in lowlight, but sometimes you won't know what the postprocessing will actually do with the final image,
mostly with slightly moving subjects (I am not talking about motion blur due to slow shutter-speed!).
I already did some pictures from people which appeared great at first inside the gallery, but then got destroyed by postprocessing!
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You have obviously tested other apps such as Open camera and confirmed that the problem stays the same regardless of the app used?
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markusviktorius said:
You have obviously tested other apps such as Open camera and confirmed that the problem stays the same regardless of the app used?
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Oh, the OOS Camera App is the only app with this issue because it uses proprietary postprocessing to filter out noise, which is not available for other camera apps.
Other apps use the same "basic" postprocessing which is nearly identical in good lighting, or much worse in bad lighting compared to the OOS Camera.
Google Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_001912tkqmo.jpg
Stock Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_001920t9q4y.jpg
Google Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_002156l7rpb.jpg
Stock Camera https://abload.de/img/img_20160723_002205h1q8y.jpg
In lowlight, no apps beats the OOS camera.
In daylight and depending on the subject you will often get more details with third-party apps, but more noise.
But I need to do more testing, especially when taking pictures of people to really see the differences.
In terms of focusing I did not see a difference. I might test Open Camera later.

For flawless quality, just enable DNG RAW file save and process images yourself. DNG files offer vastly superior dynamic range because the 31 MB files contain all red, green and blue subpixel data, unprocessed.
For wider range of manual controls, I recommend AZ Camera, it has full manual controls for video as well. I also like A Better Camera, I use it's HDR mode which has far superior (albeit grainy) multi-shot processing. Manual Camera is always an option, I just prefer AZ Camera because of video settings and I like AZ Screen recorder.
At the end of the day, stock app image quality is not that bad, though HDR is more denoised since oxygen OS 3.2.2.

It's clear that you can get the most out of a raw file, especially when using additional denoising algorithms on a PC.
This doesn't mean that this is a solution for everyone and we can't discuss this any further.
Some people just want to take their devices and snap the best possible photos without too much of an effort.
I took my fair share of raw photos, but often just don't want to.
In comparison with the OPO for example, the gap between the processed jpeg and the developed dng is not too far away on the OP3.
The OP3's processing still has much room for improvement in auto-mode though, as you can see in my YouTube video.
After some testing I can say that the perfect app highly depends on the lighting conditions.
... I will add more to this post later.

AcmE85 said:
Sorry for any inconvenience produced by this link. I am using an adblocker on my OP3 and my PC so I don't have any issues with zippyshare.
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What Ad-Blocker are you using? I have ADP on Chrome but I still got a new window pop-up from that link (AV blocked link). And ADP on my OP3 frickin blocks all internet traffic sometimes, welp most of the times. So on OP3 i only have Ad-Away .. but it's pretty useless.

Adaway on OP3 and uBlock Origin on my PC running Chrome Beta 52.
ABP is slowing down Chrome compared to uBlock.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-vs.-ABP:-efficiency-compared
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Camera comparison
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w3q0it8lgu6hsvl/AABAuFOsk6MKGs7Nn6uMpFXOa?dl=0
For best quality, download the whole package and watch on your PC.
Keep in mind that the Windows 10 standard photos app is a blurry mess and they still did not fix this issue!!!!
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...fea-889b-48e4-8368-1a2d2922dd0c?page=1&auth=1
Use the old picture viewer for example
OxygenOS Camera vs. Google Camera vs. Open Camera (camera2api enabled)
Running on OxygenOS 3.2.2
All pictures were taken handheld on auto-mode, no HQ or HDR or any additional modes enabled.
All with autofocus. All pictures were the first and only shots I did in this situations. I did not have to correct focal points or anything, just aim, snap & done.
What I can say so far is that in daylight (Photos 1, 2 and 5) there is almost no difference when comparing them on the OP3 screen.
Only noticeably difference are plain colored objects. There is still some minimal noise left with Open Camera and Google Camera.
The OOS Camera filters most of it without losing any details.
I have included one photo taken with Open Camera with camera2api disabled and it looks like there is no denoise filter enabled at all.
The exception to the rule is the photo showing Yoda (Photo 3).
At first glance there is no difference. When comparing at 100% crop you can see that the OOS Camera loses some slight details due to postprocessing.
On photo 4 I tried to darken the room. There is one photo which shows the proper lighting in that scene, by manually decreasing the exposure with OOS camera.
The improved postprocessing by the OOS Camera clearly wins here hands down. What can be observed is that all apps increase the exposure.
Weirdly, all have the same shutter-speed (1/17s), but although having the by far least amount of noise, the OOS camera uses a 6400 ISO, the other two a 3200 ISO!
I am pretty sure there is something wrong with exif data on the OOS Camera.
Photo 6 shows the Dark Tower^^
OOS Camera wins again. Once again 6400 vs 3200 ISO.
Photo 7 shows the same results as the first daylight shots.
Photo 8 was taken with artificial lighting. The results are equal to photo 4.
Basically the pictures and processing are identical on the Google Camera and Open Camera.
I had more apps installed, but earlier shots were showing the same results, so I did not include them into this comparison.
The OOS Camera basically wins every time in lowlight.
Daylight pictures are hard to judge as it tends to make them quite clean with its denoising (see Yoda!)
Google and Open Camera show a slightly more noise, but one could argue that they are preserving more detail.
As I already mentioned earlier, the OOS Camera sometimes goes way too far when there is slight movement involved in the scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
that includes peoples faces in perfect lighting. I will continue shooting with Google Camera in these occasions to compare
the behaviour to the OOS Camera.
In terms of focus speed and accuracy, all apps performed the same.
I was using CM13 for a day, the day before it got official nightlies, and can say that camera quality
is identical to what you get with Google Camera on Oxygen OS.
Unfortunately this means that when you are going to do lowlight shots, you will get worse results.
I really hope we will get a fully working OOS camera port in the future.
Until then I am forced to stay on OxygenOS.
edit: Before I get any of these posts to just use manual mode or raw, or... this is not the goal of this comparison ok

AcmE85 said:
Yes, it differs with the lighting. It may sound strange but I was actually happier with the OPO in some situations
because it offered more consistency compared to the OP3 (in daylight).
Off course, the overall quality is much better on the OP3, especially in lowlight, but sometimes you won't know what the postprocessing will actually do with the final image,
mostly with slightly moving subjects (I am not talking about motion blur due to slow shutter-speed!).
I already did some pictures from people which appeared great at first inside the gallery, but then got destroyed by postprocessing!
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This solved my issue:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-post-processing.470510/page-14#post-16614706

camera FV-5

Google camera with hdr

Main camera distortion

Using Global version 11.0.6.0.
I notice that the main camera, even at 1x setting, produces quite a bit of pincushion distortion at the edges. Furthermore, in 0.6x wide angle, the distortion is severe and not at all helped by turning on the correction setting.
None of the camera reviews for the RN8P mention this, so I am wondering if there is a defect in my device.
Any thoughts?

use gcam it will fix it

Nihat2003lol said:
use gcam it will fix it
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I guess I have to pick my poison. I briefly tried Gcam but didn't really evaluate it because it seemed so laggy and buggy

jshames said:
I guess I have to pick my poison. I briefly tried Gcam but didn't really evaluate it because it seemed so laggy and buggy
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yes it seems laggy but it is good. To not to experience bugs download [this]

Nihat2003lol said:
yes it seems laggy but it is good. To not to experience bugs download [this]
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I tried it and I don't see any clear improvement over the built in app, either with distortion or with the photo quality itself. In fact the native app 64 mp mode is much clearer
I admit that I haven't bothered with using the xml file, in the past I haven't found that its worth the effort...

jshames said:
I tried it and I don't see any clear improvement over the built in app, either with distortion or with the photo quality itself. In fact the native app 64 mp mode is much clearer
I admit that I haven't bothered with using the xml file, in the past I haven't found that its worth the effort...
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Use it with hdr+ option on. Otherwise you cant see anyting different.

Nihat2003lol said:
Use it with hdr+ option on. Otherwise you cant see anyting different.
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Only when I use the "enhanced HDR+" is there a difference, but that's like night mode where it takes a few seconds to take the shot
I saw a youtube review and comparison using this version and the stock app. The reviewer perhaps could see the difference (pixel peeping), but it was not obvious to me

Themes / Apps / Mods Gcam for Xperia 10 III

UPDATE 2022.02.26_GCam 8.1
This 8.1 version of Gcam works very well out of the box (aux cameras, video. Night mode etc etc)
Arnova8G2: Gcam-8.1.101.build-V6.2.211013
Download Gcam-8.1.101.build-V6.2.211013 by Arnova8G2.
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The app crashes only in video rallenty mode.
I changed the 7.4 version below with 8.1 above.
Hi guys, I tried a lot of gcams, finally I found one that works well with 99% of features.
https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/NGCam_7.4.104-v2.0_eng.apk
I attach the config file by myself.
Only bug is video recording with aux cameras.
If someone found a better setting or a better combo (gcam+setting), please reply to this post

Does it make the camera better?

yes, really better. With the HDR+ Auto (non advanced), shots are also more quick than stock (that is really slow to be honest). The overall quality is very better, and night mode, potrait mode, astrography etc etc are a considerable plus. This are two shots made during this reply. IMG file is the Gcam, DCIM is Sony (1x cam, no adjustment, all auto).

the right one is with Gcam?

HIXPERIA said:
the right one is with Gcam?
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yes, but this is only an example. In outdoor or dark conditions there is a lot of difference.

alonzimanuel said:
Hi guys, I tried a lot of gcams, finally I found one that works well with 99% of features.
https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/NGCam_7.4.104-v2.0_eng.apk
I attach the config file by myself.
Only bug is video recording with aux cameras.
If someone found a better setting or a better combo (gcam+setting), please reply to this post
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Video works for me for all 3 cameras. I didn't install the config though, just went to settings -> Advanced -> Auxiliary cameras -> added 3 cameras and assigned appropriate samsung tree icons . After initial crash, it's working fine

bimjunk said:
Video works for me for all 3 cameras. I didn't install the config though, just went to settings -> Advanced -> Auxiliary cameras -> added 3 cameras and assigned appropriate samsung tree icons . After initial crash, it's working fine
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Well! The aux not working in video in original post was because I had the video stabilization on. Talking about photos, have you seen any colour balance difference between the cameras?

alonzimanuel said:
Well! The aux not working in video in original post was because I had the video stabilization on. Talking about photos, have you seen any colour balance difference between the cameras?
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Yes, and focus goes in and out...stock camera focussing is spot on, for now, using the stock

The focus is good for me, better than stock, expecially in LL condition. Try my config disabling video stab.

I'm seriously considering getting this phone. Can anybody post more samples from GCam?

alonzimanuel said:
Hi guys, I tried a lot of gcams, finally I found one that works well with 99% of features.
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Hello, are you able to shot in RAW mode? That is Raw+Jpg?
thanks!

Yes, you can shot in raw+jpeg

I upload the last config file:
-the video stab. Is disabled because video capture with aux freeze the app.
-every gcam 7 feature is working well
-colors are quite different switching cameras, I suppose there's a little settings to do well. But this difference is already present in the stock camera app.

alonzimanuel said:
Yes, you can shot in raw+jpeg
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You are right, it just saves the RAW files in a different folder (Picture\RAW), that's why I wasn't able to see them!
Do you know if it's possible to save them in the same folder of the JPGs?

No I don't know, I just haven't this kind of need yet.

A little bit offtopic because I did not try GCam yet, but my 10iii arrived yesterday and the pictures (same objects, auto-mode, sony app & opencamera) are im comparison to my 4 year old XZ1c smaller in resolution and size (1,4mb vs 5,8mb) and quality almost as bad as the xz1c. Highest resolution I can set is 12MP in the settings. Are there any settings I have overseen? Or do I have to send it back and buy the Zenfone 8 although I loved Xperia phones since years?

holden69 said:
A little bit offtopic because I did not try GCam yet, but my 10iii arrived yesterday and the pictures (same objects, auto-mode, sony app & opencamera) are im comparison to my 4 year old XZ1c smaller in resolution and size (1,4mb vs 5,8mb) and quality almost as bad as the xz1c. Highest resolution I can set is 12MP in the settings. Are there any settings I have overseen? Or do I have to send it back and buy the Zenfone 8 although I loved Xperia phones since years?
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I bought this phone at launch. And I will never change with a zenphone 8. I'm very happy with this phone and every update Sony made has solved a problem. I love it. So to come back on topic try the gcam in this post with the last setting.

alonzimanuel said:
I bought this phone at launch. And I will never change with a zenphone 8. I'm very happy with this phone and every update Sony made has solved a problem. I love it. So to come back on topic try the gcam in this post with the last setting.
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Thanks, I just tried your GCam with the latest xml. Might be the best app for 10iii, shutter is quicker than stock, white balance and colors as well, but still the results are awful for a phone from 2021 if you compare it to the xz1c-pictures attached. I don't get it why Sony builts really good cameras (I'm on Canon, but anyway..) and the ones in their phones are bad. After 11 years Xperia-phones I'll go for the Zenfone now

alonzimanuel said:
I upload the last config file:
-the video stab. Is disabled because video capture with aux freeze the app.
-every gcam 7 feature is working well
-colors are quite different switching cameras, I suppose there's a little settings to do well. But this difference is already present in the stock camera app.
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Thanks a bunch for the all done config, but it was not obvious how to import it.
See https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/settings09/ and follow instructions for GCam 7.x

HI! can I post here the pictures I made with the factory camera, is that all right?