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In your opinion, how hard would it be to modify a case/back panel for the Glide, so that it has inductive charging support? I just saw a video online of someone internalizing an iPhone 4/4S charger, with only slight structural modifications (it had the appearance of no case on the outside), and was thinking that I might be able to do it to my Glide. At the moment, I am using a Body Glove case, made of rubber-coated plastic (the only one AT&T sells/sold for the Glide), and my best guess is that the case is about 3mm in thickness. I am looking for no actual phone modifications here (except for wiring the case to the battery, and maybe a modified back cover), so does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
Interesting. There is a company selling those inductive charging mats. I believe there is a connector that plugs to our phone (micro USB) to work with it. You could buy that and try to modify the phone back panel and a case to add the necessary hardware.
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The companies name is Duracell powermatt.
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I saw this, and figured that's what I was going to use. However, It looks as if the case for most phones adds quite a bit of thickness. I looked at another guide, which involved ripping up a Palm Pre back, soldering some things together, and using the Touchstone mat. As for whether or not that would work with a Powermat, I am not sure.
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I saw this, and figured that's what I was going to use. However, It looks as if the case for most phones adds quite a bit of thickness. I looked at another guide, which involved ripping up a Palm Pre back, soldering some things together, and using the Touchstone mat. As for whether or not that would work with a Powermat, I am not sure.
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I've seen that guide, it was for the galaxy s3.
It looks like that phone has the two charging pins below the back cover; looking at the glide, I can't see them.
I fear we would need circuitry or at least more complicated wiring to make it work.
The one I saw was for the original Galaxy S. You may have seen a different one. The video I saw showed him wiring some things directly to the battery, if I remember correctly.
any progress
Hey there!
I found this thread as THE only one where someone imagining about the glide having the possibility to charge inductively.
any new info about it?
@a_p3rson: did you find a way to do it?
I would love to see it becoming true..
best regards
jay
So far, the best chance I've seen was using the induction sticker on the back for the Palm (pre I believe), and wiring it to the USB port. I think that would work pretty well, though I am worried with how it would affect the normal function of the USB port. If anyone wants to try it (and share the results), by all means, please do so!
EDIT: It wouldn't be possible to wire the sticker directly to the battery, right? Of course, without causing overcharging/overheating/general harm/etc. to the battery or any part of it?
just throw it out there i have a extended battery from amazon it is about twice as thick as stock batter new back cover has large empty space between camera and batter pack i mean could put flash drive with room to spare in there would be easy to add some new hardware in there if need be for you power matt bought mine of amaxon for 11.00
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just throw it out there i have a extended battery from amazon it is about twice as thick as stock batter new back cover has large empty space between camera and batter pack i mean could put flash drive with room to spare in there would be easy to add some new hardware in there if need be for you power matt bought mine of amaxon for 11.00
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I seem to remember the sticker on the Pre being really thin - like paper thin. Plus, I really am against cosmetic things like that (e.g. large back, extended battery), so an extended back shouldn't be needed.
However, I do know that the guide that I found (for the Galaxy S) said that it was possible by just wiring the sticker to the charging ports in the USB connector. The only worry I have is if the phone's USB communication would be affected at all.
If it is possible to just directly wire into the charging ports, there appears to be an easily removable panel directly above the microusb port that would presumably give access to it. I'm at work right now, so I can't exactly check, just puttin it out there.
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If it is possible to just directly wire into the charging ports, there appears to be an easily removable panel directly above the microusb port that would presumably give access to it. I'm at work right now, so I can't exactly check, just puttin it out there.
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Did you ever see if it was possible to hook the induction sticker to the USB port from here? I just looked at the panel, and it actually looks like there is a sticker that contains some wires going to the main board on that plate, makes me think that it could be an antenna of some sort, and that it might be kind of hard to deal with.
If you have bought and used a Qi receiver in your s3 for more then a week I want to hear about it.
I would like your replies to include pics of it installed in your phone. Hopeful that will keep this thread shill free.
Are they all the same level of crap?
Did yours bulge the back so bad it cracked?
Did it heat up the phone more then gaming?
Did they block NFC?
Is it slower/faster then usb?
I'm actually kinda temped to buy one of the S5 ones that are advertised as "paper thin" and modify it to fit. Some of them have pics of callipers measuring them and they look damn thin. None of the S3 ones currently on amazon or eBay look like something that won't burst into flames :/
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If you have bought and used a Qi receiver in your s3 for more then a week I want to hear about it.
I would like your replies to include pics of it installed in your phone. Hopeful that will keep this thread shill free.
Are they all the same level of crap?
Did yours bulge the back so bad it cracked?
Did it heat up the phone more then gaming?
Did they block NFC?
Is it slower/faster then usb?
I'm actually kinda temped to buy one of the S5 ones that are advertised as "paper thin" and modify it to fit. Some of them have pics of callipers measuring them and they look damn thin. None of the S3 ones currently on amazon or eBay look like something that won't burst into flames :/
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Sorry I don't have pics. I have used one for the last year. It's been a bit of hit n miss. The quality seems to be ok as far as I can tell visually and I had bought the cheapest one I could find. I haven't had any problems with cracking of the case but it does bulge ever so slightly and any 3rd party case of tried with it doesn't have any problems with fit. The receiver is about credit card thickness. It does not block nfc on my phone. It is very much slower to charge than with regular usb, but it will charge my phone completely overnight. The problem I have with it just recently is that it doesn't consistently charge. It "loses" connection randomly. I have made sure that the contacts stay connected but still the problem persists. I'm not sure if it's hardware or software related at this point but it did use to work consistently. Also it may be the charging pad that is going funky and not the receiver itself. I have ordered a new and different charging pad that should arrive this week and I'll have a better idea of what's going on when I get it. Hope that helps a bit.
I have been using one for about two weeks now, no bulges, it overheats a bit, but I am using cm12 and boeffla kernel and have oc'ed current to 950 for faster charge so thats on me, its faster than usb atm, but a bit slower than normal charger. Didnt understand what you meant with ''blocks nfc''
The NFC coil is on the back of the battery.
These Qi stickers glue to the battery. It stands to reason one coil over the other might interfere.
Which is why I asked if you still have NFC with one installed.
I've had my S3 for a couple months now; got it as a freedompop refurb during a good sale. Came with the usb port loose and was hard to get it to charge, so I went on ebay and got a cheap qi charger (came with coil and charge plate). It was supposedly a 1000ma charging coil, though it does charge pretty fast. The charging base does heat up a bit while charging, and will heat up the phone just by proximity, but so far nothing too serious.
I don't use NFC for anything so I have no idea if it's impacted at all. There's probably other qi charging topics here with answers.
The coil barely made a dent in the backplate plastic. It is slightly visible, but it didn't impact the phone fitting in a few of the cases my friends had. I settled on a nice leather folding case that also worked as a landscape-stand.
It might be just the quality of the charge plate or the coil I received that's making this one little problem: if the phone is directly on the base (bare-plastic back to charge plate), it likes to blink in and out of charging constantly. If there's a little space though, it'll steadily charge and not blink (or very rarely blink). The gap I found to work the best is roughly the phone's normal thickness. I used a piece of cardboard and a couple gift cards to get there until I got the folding case. Folding the front over to the back provided enough space for steady charging on its own. Again, it's probably the china quality, but at least it's working well.
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I've had my S3 for a couple months now; got it as a freedompop refurb during a good sale. Came with the usb port loose and was hard to get it to charge, so I went on ebay and got a cheap qi charger (came with coil and charge plate). It was supposedly a 1000ma charging coil, though it does charge pretty fast. The charging base does heat up a bit while charging, and will heat up the phone just by proximity, but so far nothing too serious.
I don't use NFC for anything so I have no idea if it's impacted at all. There's probably other qi charging topics here with answers.
The coil barely made a dent in the backplate plastic. It is slightly visible, but it didn't impact the phone fitting in a few of the cases my friends had. I settled on a nice leather folding case that also worked as a landscape-stand.
It might be just the quality of the charge plate or the coil I received that's making this one little problem: if the phone is directly on the base (bare-plastic back to charge plate), it likes to blink in and out of charging constantly. If there's a little space though, it'll steadily charge and not blink (or very rarely blink). The gap I found to work the best is roughly the phone's normal thickness. I used a piece of cardboard and a couple gift cards to get there until I got the folding case. Folding the front over to the back provided enough space for steady charging on its own. Again, it's probably the china quality, but at least it's working well.
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Great idea on the spacing! Mine does basically the same thing. Never thought of moving it farther away. Sweet! But you might want to be careful if you're using gift cards that haven't been redeemed. I think, not positive, that it might ruin the magnetic strips on them.
So I'm looking into the possibility of making a wireless charging solution on my own. I have lots of wireless chargers at home, work, in the car, and I would really benefit from getting wireless charging working.
I took a USB Qi charging coil and soldered wires, which I then attached (well, just touched ) to either end of the magnetic connector, and it worked.
The difficulty I'm facing is, how can I keep these wires touching the magnetic charging port semi-permanently without doing anything dangerous like attempting to solder it directly.
So I'm wondering if anyone has any neat ideas of how I might rig this up. Any ideas would help a lot! If I come up with something good, I'll make a guide so others can do it.
You could try to get someone to 3D print a side piece similar to the one on the Z3 wireless charging case from sony: http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
Have them leave chambers to run the wire through.
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You could try to get someone to 3D print a side piece similar to the one on the Z3 wireless charging case from sony: http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
Have them leave chambers to run the wire through.
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I've been thinking about making my own wireless charging case similar to the sony branded case but using high quality leather, and an oem qi charging circuit with a 3d printed base clip with the circuit connectors integrated into the clip, just to ensure constant connectivity.
just looking into prices for scrap leather now.
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So I'm looking into the possibility of making a wireless charging solution on my own. I have lots of wireless chargers at home, work, in the car, and I would really benefit from getting wireless charging working.
I took a USB Qi charging coil and soldered wires, which I then attached (well, just touched ) to either end of the magnetic connector, and it worked.
The difficulty I'm facing is, how can I keep these wires touching the magnetic charging port semi-permanently without doing anything dangerous like attempting to solder it directly.
So I'm wondering if anyone has any neat ideas of how I might rig this up. Any ideas would help a lot! If I come up with something good, I'll make a guide so others can do it.
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Have you tried tape? It would be covered up by your case anyway, right?
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Have you tried tape? It would be covered up by your case anyway, right?
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I've thought of tape but I've yet to figure out a way to tape it where it will definitely stay in place.
I might be able to get a case that would cover it, but my current cases have holes so that magnetic chargers could be plugged in.
I've decided to try using copper tape to connect a Qi coil to the magnetic dock port. I'll see how it goes. Hopefully it will be as easy as I'm hoping it will be.
So I finally managed to make it work. Unfortunately, I had to solder.
I gave up with trying to line things up just right and keep it in place, so I just soldered a Qi receiver to the magnetic charging port, wrapped it around to the back of the phone, and fit in a case. It charges wirelessly now, so I'm happy. Unfortunately, I don't know if I'll ever be able to clean it up in the future if I want to sell the phone. But to me, wireless charging was super important. I was also able to continue using my Z1C battery case which uses the magnetic port, so I'm pretty happy with the end result.
Pics?
it's ugly, but I'll put up pics when I get a chance.
Pictures as promised. I had been concerned adding this might block NFC, but NFC works just fine. Obviously, magnetic charging cables don't work (but a Z1C charging case I have does.)
It adds some thickness behind it so the case doesn't fit quite perfectly, but well enough to stay on. I didn't have thinner cables, but having some might have been able to decrease the thickness. Also, I'm not necessarily good at soldering, so I just did what I could.
But I can charge it on my bedside table and in my iOttie Qi dock in my car, so I'm cool with it.
hmm not pretty, but i guess it works. how is the charging speed?
you should be able to clean it up fine if you use some solder wick.
Awesome job!
Can you please give us a link for the receiver?
All I can find are with usb
ugly doesn't even start describing it... seriously, you ruined that phone. You could've cannibalized a 3rd party docking station instead
duraaraa,
Thanks for blazing this trail for us, mighty brave to solder to your phone like that! Now that you've had this set up for a few weeks, is it holding up ok? I'd just about give my left nut for an actual phone case that simply has a wireless receiver built in and taps into the magnetic charger pins, but I doubt anyone will ever make one since (I believe) the Z3C is discontinued. I mean, they make those giant external battery packs for the Z3C that use the pins, so why not a qi-compatible one??? Anyway, no way I'm soldering to my pins so I'm basically trying to mold a connector out of epoxy that I can squeeze between the side of the case and the pins. (Basically I pushed one of my magnetic cable connectors into a clay bar and filled w/epoxy.) It's still drying so I have no idea if it's feasible at all, but wanted to pop in and say thanks for the inspiration.
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duraaraa,
Thanks for blazing this trail for us, mighty brave to solder to your phone like that! Now that you've had this set up for a few weeks, is it holding up ok? I'd just about give my left nut for an actual phone case that simply has a wireless receiver built in and taps into the magnetic charger pins, but I doubt anyone will ever make one since (I believe) the Z3C is discontinued. I mean, they make those giant external battery packs for the Z3C that use the pins, so why not a qi-compatible one??? Anyway, no way I'm soldering to my pins so I'm basically trying to mold a connector out of epoxy that I can squeeze between the side of the case and the pins. (Basically I pushed one of my magnetic cable connectors into a clay bar and filled w/epoxy.) It's still drying so I have no idea if it's feasible at all, but wanted to pop in and say thanks for the inspiration.
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hows your build coming along mate I'd love to see how it looks.
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hows your build coming along mate I'd love to see how it looks.
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Not good I'm afraid my friend... My first attempt (trying to mold a connector out of epoxy using a clay mold) failed, the thing came out looking like a chewed up piece of gum and just wouldn't work. My next attempt involved slicing up a couple of cheap magnetic adapters and cables to try to trim down the connectors to something reasonably sized, but they become really brittle when you cut them that thin... Unfortunately, I think it'd take someone with some type of plastic molding equipment or maybe a 3d printer (that is capable of making really small, fine-detail parts) to make this thing. I'm still disappointed that Sony makes a wireless case for the Z3, but not the Z3C, but I've also come to realize that the Z3C has such good battery life that maybe I don't really need such a case. (I come from a long line of Nexus, HTC, and Samsung devices so I've become somewhat of a charging addict!)
tl;dr: Just enjoy the Z3C and use the handy magnetic dock for overnight charging.
just looking at the magnetic connectors on the z3c I think there might be a way but it'll add a couple more mm to the height, would need to get someone with a 3d printer, but if the wallet is made of leather and is inserted underneath, with the qi wireless pad, and two wires made into connection terminals which would then clip onto the phone so a solid connection is made between those terminals.
Just to answer some questions, it's held up. I think it's fine -- anyone desperate for Qi should just bite the bullet and solder. Charging speed is similar to really any other Qi-charged device.
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Awesome job!
Can you please give us a link for the receiver?
All I can find are with usb
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Sorry my response is so late!
It's the USB type. I un-soldered the USB ribbon and soldered a wire for the two connections.
So you would want to buy the USB version, I think.
Look into copper tape. I attempted this a little while back but I think my charging pad wasn't powerful enough. What charging pad are you using?
As we all know, the new Zenfone 2 is missing wireless charging capabilities, however there are multiple solutions to enable wireless charging on basically any phone.
Example is http://www.amazon.com/BEZALEL®-Wire..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1432149451&sr=1-4
It is a cover with a Qi receiver built in, which connects to the charging port and it also provides an independent micro usb port as a part of the case.
The absence of wireless charging in Zenfone 2 is a deal breaker for me ( don't judge) and as soon as an appropriate case is available, I'll get it and the phone as well.
Please post your findings here.
Would love to use wireless charging but using a cover like the one posted is out of question.
I love the slim form and feel of this phone. so i will have to live without QI and other solutions.
This will occupy the mUSB port but would probably be the best current solution.
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This will occupy the mUSB port but would probably be the best current solution.
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That's pretty cool. I like wireless charging because I'd rather not wear out my micro usb...but that setup kinda marries you to wireless charging all the time. I'd have to rig up wireless charging in the car and at work...not just at home. You use something like that?
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That's pretty cool. I like wireless charging because I'd rather not wear out my micro usb...but that setup kinda marries you to wireless charging all the time. I'd have to rig up wireless charging in the car and at work...not just at home. You use something like that?
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Not sure if I'm going to stick with the ZF2, so I haven't gone out and done all that yet but qi adapters are pretty cheap now for both home and car. How effective some of the car ones are though are another story. iOttie has two models out now that look promising for the car.
There may also be the possibility of placing those adapters into a separate case just meant for wireless charging... remove the case if you need the mUSB port.]
Or... if they do release new back covers... get one that you install the qi adapter in and then one that you won't have the qi adapter in.
WHYYYYYYYYY
Why did Asus decide not to include the qi pins in the back ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>_<
what to do :'(
Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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Which goes back to my point. Why did Asus purposdely omit to include QI/wireless charging pins on the back? It would had cost them hardly anything extra at all, and users could just have changed back cover to get wireless charging...
That one http://www.amazon.com/BLUBOON-Unive...2630&sr=8-2&keywords=qi+wireless+charger+1000 is 1000mA, if it does make a difference. But a case integrated receiver would be much better solution, if ever.
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That one http://www.amazon.com/BLUBOON-Unive...2630&sr=8-2&keywords=qi+wireless+charger+1000 is 1000mA, if it does make a difference. But a case integrated receiver would be much better solution, if ever.
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I bought that model. I have a Qi charger (used with a Nexus 5) hooked up to a 2A USB Adapter, and it barely charges the Zenfone. I do not recommend. Maybe a 2A receiver would work better.
It's ridiculous.... why did asus decide not to offer a wireless charging solution similar to the previous samsung galaxies/lg.
Have the pins for charging on the back, and let the user change the case to a qi receiver case or add a qi receiver pad inside. this is honestly the only thing that disappoints on this phone (((((((((((((
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Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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I just received mine and there is enough space in the back cover for the receiver to fit in, albeit with a small bulge. It does show my phone as charging even when just held up to my Moto 360 cradle; whether or not it's charging, however, I have no idea.
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I just received mine and there is enough space in the back cover for the receiver to fit in, albeit with a small bulge. It does show my phone as charging even when just held up to my Moto 360 cradle; whether or not it's charging, however, I have no idea.
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Thanks for trying. Did you actually solder or just plug it in the usb port? If you plugged it in the usb port, does the cover close without damaging the cable?
I'm asking because if that works, we could potentially design a slightly thicker but hollow back case that could hold NFC and the wireless receive without unnatural bulges.
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Thanks for trying. Did you actually solder or just plug it in the usb port? If you plugged it in the usb port, does the cover close without damaging the cable?
I'm asking because if that works, we could potentially design a slightly thicker but hollow back case that could hold NFC and the wireless receive without unnatural bulges.
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
don't judge
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Yeah I judge, wireless charging its just another feature. A small battery, a slow processor or low memory now that's a real deal-breaker since your phone wont last a day, apps will run like hell and you will always have to micromanage just for things to run properly.
I'm way more pissed off at this phone not having a removable battery, not just because its a real deal-breaker during travel where I will be forced to lug around one of those brickish power banks but because Li-ION batteries have the lifespan of a mosquito. I already had 2 phones like that and the result was always a massive pain in the ass to deal with.
I rather buy a case with an extra battery than this thing
Three pins USB Board?
Hi there
Maybe some one knows, what are those three pins on the USB board, that are accessible without disassembly phone?? That should be connectors to charging instead of usb socket?
I have a qi charger built into my car. I do not like aftermarket charger added to the phone. So this is a deal breaker for me and will not consider any phones without buildin qi charger.
Looking to buy this phone and own a quick charging card like this. Is it possible to slip the card under the back cover (without a case) or will it cause it to bulge in too unsightly a manner?
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
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Looking to buy this phone and own a quick charging card like this. Is it possible to slip the card under the back cover (without a case) or will it cause it to bulge in too unsightly a manner?
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It can but causes a gap near the usb port that I could not close. I would've run it inside if it didn't do that.
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
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Great Idea.
The speed of charge is 350 MAH ?? Is to slowly (USB PC charge normally 550 MAH)
Hi,
After going through all possible options of connecting a wireless receiver to a magnetic charging port, and having no luck, I come up with something even more simpler.
Any soldering was not an option, as I wanted to keep my phone waterproof when I need it.
So I got these three things:
- Case. I was looking for something slim, preferably with covered magnetic port, since I'm not going to use it anymore. (this case I bought from aliexpress)
- MicroSD cover, didn't wanna ruin original. Cover has to be there, without it microsd will get lost.
- Wireless receiver itself. Any should do, but the longer is the cable the better.
After being using it for a month, even magnetic charging now feels like too time consuming to me )
Here's how it looks.
You cut the cover of the USB port and sd card slot? How could it be waterproof anymore?
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You cut the cover of the USB port and sd card slot? How could it be waterproof anymore?
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That's why I got a spare one, so I can replace it when I need it.
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After being using it for a month, even magnetic charging now feels like too time consuming to me )
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Huh ? How so ?
It's only 800mA charging current on your wireless charger...that's like half of the original charger used with a magnetic cable(1.5A)
I see. I meant that it takes time, especially at night, to to align magnetic connector. As far as charging time, it takes about 4hrs.
I like this a lot. Thanks for posting. Where did you get the spare cover?
For me this would be most useful in the car. I'd still like to use the magnetic dock on my desk so now I'm off to find a dock-friendly case.
Do you have links to the stuff you bought for that?
How did you create such a small micro usb connector?