Suggestions on next device after LG G3? - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks,
Love my G3 but I'm getting the itch to upgrade. What's the next device I should look into? Must be rootable and have Dev support here. Size at least as big screen as the G3 (so, 5.5" display or slightly bigger is OK). Battery life critical... Even with a new battery my G3 (D851 - T-Mobile version, but used on AT&T) has trouble getting through the day. I'm not a power gamer but need decent screen-on-time.
The Pixel XL looks good, but even on swappa a used good/mint one is a bit pricier than I'd like. Hoping to keep things under $400.
I usually buy phones about a year or 18 months after release.... Don't need latest flagship, but prefer tried and true last year's best contender.
Thoughts appreciated!

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Coming from an HTC VIVID

I am way overdue for an upgrade (AT&T family plan).
I didn't do it when the Nexus 5 came out thought I would wait for the S5 which then coincided with the M8 and did neither of those either thinking the G3 would be the best bet.
Yes I have the disease badly!
Little things bugged me eg. the battery flap on the S5 and the reduced screen size/strange shape of the M8 along with poor fit and finish of the store models I handled.
Reading here the most talked about issue of the G3 appears to be some lag reported by some folks specially when compared to the other competitors. Other than not being able to load custom Roms, everything else seems just about perfect.
Coming from the Vivid (which still performs very well) I am sure that from every perspective the G3 will totally overshadow my Vivid with respect to performance, camera, screen resolution/brightness, battery life, memory etc. etc.
I was struggling to decide if I could live with one of these new devices for the next 2 years.
I think the G3 could be the one. Go on, give me the push I need.
I would like to hear from current G3 owners.
Thanks
samsat said:
I am way overdue for an upgrade (AT&T family plan).
I didn't do it when the Nexus 5 came out thought I would wait for the S5 which then coincided with the M8 and did neither of those either thinking the G3 would be the best bet.
Yes I have the disease badly!
Little things bugged me eg. the battery flap on the S5 and the reduced screen size/strange shape of the M8 along with poor fit and finish of the store models I handled.
Reading here the most talked about issue of the G3 appears to be some lag reported by some folks specially when compared to the other competitors. Other than not being able to load custom Roms, everything else seems just about perfect.
Coming from the Vivid (which still performs very well) I am sure that from every perspective the G3 will totally overshadow my Vivid with respect to performance, camera, screen resolution/brightness, battery life, memory etc. etc.
I was struggling to decide if I could live with one of these new devices for the next 2 years.
I think the G3 could be the one. Go on, give me the push I need.
I would like to hear from current G3 owners.
Thanks
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I test drove the S5 for a couple of days, but I decided return it and go with the G3, Very Glad I did.
Wow youre still rocking the vivid. That phone was awesome. Both s5 and g3 have their shortcomings, i would suggest to wait till september and see what the note 4 is gonna be like or
The new iphone. You have waited this long might as well wait another month or so.
nohcho said:
Wow youre still rocking the vivid. That phone was awesome. Both s5 and g3 have their shortcomings, i would suggest to wait till september and see what the note 4 is gonna be like or
The new iphone. You have waited this long might as well wait another month or so.
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Haha, that's what I thought after not going for the N5, it's now a lot longer than a few months later!
I don't like the IOS ecosystem so the Iphone is not an option. The G3 is already quite big the Note 4 will be much too big.
I could have had 2 upgrades in the length of time it's taken me not to commit!
You are not the only one with the deseas lol. I waited 5 years. Came fresh from a samsung galaxy s. The first generation OG galaxy s lol
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Wow... The vivid. That actually was the phone that took me away from ios. Crazy you held on to it this long. But, anyways, I left the vivid for the N4, then the N5 and now the G3. This thing is great! Root the sucker (i believe towel root works on the att variant and thats as easy as rooting gets) and freeze/get rid of bloat and the phone flies. I've also got xposed, G3 tweaksbox and greenify too.
Thanks guys, looks like the G3 will more than do the job for me.
My Vivid is now SIM unlocked so a great travel phone, just returned from 3 countries and the Vivid worked great with the respective sims.
The battery has suddenly got a bit tired. I need to buy another battery and keep this phone for when I travel.

[Q] Lack of G3 ROM development and interest?

I am debating whether to get the G3 or M8 and was leaning towards the G3..but on looking at their respective XDA development pages, on first look there are only 2 custom ROM's being developed for the G3 whilst the M8 seems to have more and they are significantly more active.
This is swaying me more to the M8, though I would rather have the better camera/OIS/laser focus..saying that, it appears too that benchmarks of the G3 vs M8 unfortunately make the M8 a better performer too despite having a higher clocked SOC and more RAM with the EU version.
I was also told in Carphone Warehouse that basically people are buying on brands so the HTC is flying off shelves and nobody is interested in the G3. The guy said that even he wasn't aware of how matched a contender the G3 was to the M8 until a rep from LG came in and showed them. He was really pushing me the M8 also saying that they have had 0 in for repair whilst the whole Samsung range esp the S5/Note 3 are unreliable and plagued with issues such as the battery expanding so it does not fit anymore.
I imagine people are happy with their G3 here but do people recommend the M8 if what I am looking for is active development of more features through regular ROM developments? I currently still have a I-9000 and I have kept it as it does what I want and still has a very active ROM development community.
D0MINO said:
I am debating whether to get the G3 or M8 and was leaning towards the G3..but on looking at their respective XDA development pages, on first look there are only 2 custom ROM's being developed for the G3 whilst the M8 seems to have more and they are significantly more active.
This is swaying me more to the M8, though I would rather have the better camera/OIS/laser focus..saying that, it appears too that benchmarks of the G3 vs M8 unfortunately make the M8 a better performer too despite having a higher clocked SOC and more RAM with the EU version.
I was also told in Carphone Warehouse that basically people are buying on brands so the HTC is flying off shelves and nobody is interested in the G3. The guy said that even he wasn't aware of how matched a contender the G3 was to the M8 until a rep from LG came in and showed them. He was really pushing me the M8 also saying that they have had 0 in for repair whilst the whole Samsung range esp the S5/Note 3 are unreliable and plagued with issues such as the battery expanding so it does not fit anymore.
I imagine people are happy with their G3 here but do people recommend the M8 if what I am looking for is active development of more features through regular ROM developments? I currently still have a I-9000 and I have kept it as it does what I want and still has a very active ROM development community.
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The reason there is no development is that the bootloader is still not unlockable, so there is no way to actually flash a ROM if one was made. This should change once it is, the G2 had plenty of good development and the G3 is outselling it quite a lot.
ChrisM75 said:
The reason there is no development is that the bootloader is still not unlockable, so there is no way to actually flash a ROM if one was made. This should change once it is, the G2 had plenty of good development and the G3 is outselling it quite a lot.
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Ah, I didn't know that..well with my custom ROM today just randomly wiping all my apps and data, 1st time something like that has ever happened and when I was even out and needed my phone, unless the bootloader gets unlocked in the next few days thenI am just going to get the M8 as I don't have time to wait for that. The first thing I would do is root and flash a custom ROM on any new phone so to buy the G3 and be stuck with an inferior stock ROM missing many features compared to my current CM11.2 based I-9000 one will end up annoying me.
Can I ask, how long did it take after launch for the bootloader to be unlocked in the G2 and are LG power user friendly or are they like some companies have been in the past and purposely made it super difficult to unlock the bootloader?
G2 bootloader was never unlocked. They find an exploit to get roms through. The only version so far that has an unlocked bootloader is the T-Mobile version in the United States. Development will come, just going to take a bit longer than other phones. But to me is worth the wait, however I am one of the lucky ones who got the unlocked bootloader from T-Mobile.
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if you go look through the Bootloader Bounty thread in the AT&T subforum, you will see that @utoprime and a few others are pretty optimistic that the bootloader will be unlocked pretty quickly. not a "few days" quickly, but more like a few weeks. and once it is (or once there is a work around (i.e., loki) like with the G2), i would anticipate there being pretty stout development for the G3.
like you, my phone history has all been unlocked devices: OG, GNex, and N5. that being said, i got my G3 first day, and rooted within a couple hours. despite my long-standing flashing history, i haven't really missed custom roms on this thing - it's that nice. i'll have to see, but once L drops, i don't know that custom roms will be that big of a deal - Andy OS has come so far. the main reason i want an unlocked bootloader is to be able to have the OS versions more quickly.
IMO, you can't go wrong with either device. BUT, if you like the G3 better, and are basing your buying decision solely on an unlocked bootloader and a variety of custom roms, personally i would still go with the G3 - it will get there.
huskerkate said:
if you go look through the Bootloader Bounty thread in the AT&T subforum, you will see that @utoprime and a few others are pretty optimistic that the bootloader will be unlocked pretty quickly. not a "few days" quickly, but more like a few weeks. and once it is (or once there is a work around (i.e., loki) like with the G2), i would anticipate there being pretty stout development for the G3.
like you, my phone history has all been unlocked devices: OG, GNex, and N5. that being said, i got my G3 first day, and rooted within a couple hours. despite my long-standing flashing history, i haven't really missed custom roms on this thing - it's that nice. i'll have to see, but once L drops, i don't know that custom roms will be that big of a deal - Andy OS has come so far. the main reason i want an unlocked bootloader is to be able to have the OS versions more quickly.
IMO, you can't go wrong with either device. BUT, if you like the G3 better, and are basing your buying decision solely on an unlocked bootloader and a variety of custom roms, personally i would still go with the G3 - it will get there.
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Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
If you're wanting the phone to last 5 years I wouldn't go with a non replaceable battery like the M8's. The G3's battery is replaceable.
I have the D855 32GB and all I can say is I'm very satisfied even running on stock...
Had the N7 2013, it was awesome, but the G3 is just on a different level...
Once the bootloader is unlocked and custom roms are available, this will fly leaving the rest...
D0MINO said:
Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
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I switched from the M8 to the G3 (S3 > M7 > Note 3 > N5 > M8 > G3) size wise, the G3 is comfortable, easy to hold and relatively light.
Screen wise, you definitely notice the difference. Colours are more vibrant and bright on the G3 IMO, I don't miss my M8, not saying the M8 was a bad device it was actually a very very good device.
There isn't a lot of differences between flagship devices these days hardware is almost identical it's really cosmetic, I switched as I got bored of the M8 and I'm already bored of the G3.. Just waiting to see what else comes along before I maybe look at the OPO.
radicalisto said:
I switched from the M8 to the G3 (S3 > M7 > Note 3 > N5 > M8 > G3) size wise, the G3 is comfortable, easy to hold and relatively light.
Screen wise, you definitely notice the difference. Colours are more vibrant and bright on the G3 IMO, I don't miss my M8, not saying the M8 was a bad device it was actually a very very good device.
There isn't a lot of differences between flagship devices these days hardware is almost identical it's really cosmetic, I switched as I got bored of the M8 and I'm already bored of the G3.. Just waiting to see what else comes along before I maybe look at the OPO.
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Lol a man very hard to please! I'm guessing you have more money than the average person as most would not be able to afford buying a new flagship every time they were bored of it!
I was thinking of the OPO but it appears inferior to the M8 and G3 from the reviews I have read of it except perhaps in price, but if you want to lose 32GB internal memory and gain an SD card slot then that may be worth it. Tbh, if you are fine with getting a grey import you can get any phone for about the same price as the OPO.
What holds me back from the Opo, besides not having an invite, is the lack of support through my carrier(T-mobile). If my G3 refuses to turn on one day, I can get one overnighted to me from them. If i have the Opo, and it does the same, I move looking at a much longer period of time.
I'm also not willing to pay for an invite. If i had one, then I'd probably buy one because I do miss the stock experience.
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I have the tmobile g3, and i heard the bootloaders were unlocked when u buy them..im rooted but i have no custom rom, so im not totally sure if its true or not, i believe i seen it on here somewhere..
Zachary droid said:
I have the tmobile g3, and i heard the bootloaders were unlocked when u buy them..im rooted but i have no custom rom, so im not totally sure if its true or not, i believe i seen it on here somewhere..
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T-Mobile has an unlocked Bootloader yes. Check out the T-Mo section here.
Does anyone know if the cat 6 f460 can install the same roms as the US versions or will it need separate development?
radicalisto said:
T-Mobile has an unlocked Bootloader yes. Check out the T-Mo section here.
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So basically only a G3 that T-Mobile (US?) has branded and loaded with their own unlocked bootloader is able to take ROMs without any exploits at the moment. A stock G3 fresh from the LG factory does not and is not able to have an unlocked bootloader on it ATM?
I'm guessing then that means that it IS possible and LG can unlock the bootloader if they want, but for us lot, someone has to find out how to find an exploit in the blocked bootloader to load the required content from the T-Mobile firmware on to non T-Mobile devices?
tospace2006 said:
Does anyone know if the cat 6 f460 can install the same roms as the US versions or will it need separate development?
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Ah, I didn't realise there was an updated/premium G3 too. Is it any worth getting this one over the G3 as the specs look like they are far superior but I don't know how realistic it is that really affordable 4K TV's will be mainstream in even perhaps 2 yrs time to be more than just a marketing gimmick for the F460.
D0MINO said:
Thanks for ur reply...I just came across this which seems hopeful but obviously we know that these things are always faster through unofficial means. I guess I am looking at these phones as being able to last up to 5 years like my I9000 as I am not a conspicuous consumption kinda person and if something can still be updated/relevant and keep doing the job then I don't see the need to spend hundreds to replace it every year just to keep up with fashion.
A few things more.
After having a Super AMOLED screen for the past 5 yrs and being very happy with the vibrancy of the colours how does the G3 compare (and M8 too if you have used it)?
Is the G3 comfortable to use one handed and is there a tendancy/risk of it being able to drop out of your hand due to the size? This was another biggie for me as a colleague has a Note 3 which is 0.2" bigger and he complains that it's often awkward to put in pockets and handle. Tbh I have never been interested in a phablet nor something 1.5" bigger than my i9000 causing pocket fitting issues so if it was just a little smaller (~5.2") then I would have been sold on it. The M8 seemed in store to be just the right size and quite comfortable to hold especially with the weight, the G3 was just on the cusp of being too big and ok but noticeably lighter and I'm wondering if this would make it more likely to slip/drop. Obviously I would get a case for it but then that will increase it's size further too.
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with 3 gig RAM, an sdcard, and the 801, i think the G3 will be serviceable as a daily driver for a few years - i don't know about 5 years, given how fast tech changes, tho.
as for the screen, if you really like Super AMOLED, you might be initially disappointed in the G3. with AMOLED, some people call the colors "vibrant," others call it "over saturated." it all depends on personal preference. for me, the G3 colors are more "true," and the screen is outstanding. i found Super AMOLED (like the GS5) to be too saturated, and almost cartoonish. but, again, its a matter of preference. i think that 4k resolution is going to be the standard going forward, and you are going to see apps becoming optimized for that. so, in terms of relevance beyond a year or two, i think the G3 is ahead of the curve, so to speak, and that the M8 (as with just about any HTC device ever made) will become pseudo-obsolete/outdated in a year or so.
the size of the G3 is fine. with the lack of bezel, it is pretty easy to use one handed, and i'm never concerned with it slipping out of my hand (but, i do have large hands). it fits comfortably in my pocket, is easy to get out, and feels light and slim in the hand. you do have to do a little "hand shimmying" to get from the top of the screen to the bottom, but i don't find it troublesome at all. tbh, if the screen was just 0.2" smaller, it would be perfect for me. but all other things considered, that's a pretty minor gripe.
D0MINO said:
So basically only a G3 that T-Mobile (US?) has branded and loaded with their own unlocked bootloader is able to take ROMs without any exploits at the moment. A stock G3 fresh from the LG factory does not and is not able to have an unlocked bootloader on it ATM?
I'm guessing then that means that it IS possible and LG can unlock the bootloader if they want, but for us lot, someone has to find out how to find an exploit in the blocked bootloader to load the required content from the T-Mobile firmware on to non T-Mobile devices?
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correct, TMo is the only variant with an unlocked bootloader, and it came from the factory that way. but, again, the devs are pretty confident that they are close to unlocking the bootloader for the other variants. this device has been getting a lot of attention, and sales have been pretty robust. i think the demand is there, and we WILL see custom roms for the G3.
D0MINO said:
Ah, I didn't realise there was an updated/premium G3 too. Is it any worth getting this one over the G3 as the specs look like they are far superior but I don't know how realistic it is that really affordable 4K TV's will be mainstream in even perhaps 2 yrs time to be more than just a marketing gimmick for the F460.
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so far, the "premium" G3 has only been announced in Korea, and the ONLY difference is it has an 805 processor, instead of the 801. from the reading i have done, it appears that the ONLY reason LG put in the 805 was to gain access to the cat6 LTE bandwidth. if you are in a market that does not have cat6 (like in the States), the prevailing speculation is that the "premium" G3 won't even be made available by LG. if it is made available, it probably won't be until the end of the year or after the first of the year. a lot of people have been clamoring for and 805 version of the G3, because it supposedly has a faster and more efficient graphics processor. i really don't do any gaming on my device, so that's not a huge concern for me.
huskerkate said:
with 3 gig RAM, an sdcard, and the 801, i think the G3 will be serviceable as a daily driver for a few years - i don't know about 5 years, given how fast tech changes, tho.
as for the screen, if you really like Super AMOLED, you might be initially disappointed in the G3. with AMOLED, some people call the colors "vibrant," others call it "over saturated." it all depends on personal preference. for me, the G3 colors are more "true," and the screen is outstanding. i found Super AMOLED (like the GS5) to be too saturated, and almost cartoonish. but, again, its a matter of preference. i think that 4k resolution is going to be the standard going forward, and you are going to see apps becoming optimized for that. so, in terms of relevance beyond a year or two, i think the G3 is ahead of the curve, so to speak, and that the M8 (as with just about any HTC device ever made) will become pseudo-obsolete/outdated in a year or so.
the size of the G3 is fine. with the lack of bezel, it is pretty easy to use one handed, and i'm never concerned with it slipping out of my hand (but, i do have large hands). it fits comfortably in my pocket, is easy to get out, and feels light and slim in the hand. you do have to do a little "hand shimmying" to get from the top of the screen to the bottom, but i don't find it troublesome at all. tbh, if the screen was just 0.2" smaller, it would be perfect for me. but all other things considered, that's a pretty minor gripe.
correct, TMo is the only variant with an unlocked bootloader, and it came from the factory that way. but, again, the devs are pretty confident that they are close to unlocking the bootloader for the other variants. this device has been getting a lot of attention, and sales have been pretty robust. i think the demand is there, and we WILL see custom roms for the G3.
so far, the "premium" G3 has only been announced in Korea, and the ONLY difference is it has an 805 processor, instead of the 801. from the reading i have done, it appears that the ONLY reason LG put in the 805 was to gain access to the cat6 LTE bandwidth. if you are in a market that does not have cat6 (like in the States), the prevailing speculation is that the "premium" G3 won't even be made available by LG. if it is made available, it probably won't be until the end of the year or after the first of the year. a lot of people have been clamoring for and 805 version of the G3, because it supposedly has a faster and more efficient graphics processor. i really don't do any gaming on my device, so that's not a huge concern for me.
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The LG Prime is being launched in Europe at the IFA next month.
http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/...tylus-smartphones-pegged-for-ifa-2014-launch/
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The LG Prime is being launched in Europe at the IFA next month.
http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/...tylus-smartphones-pegged-for-ifa-2014-launch/
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i did not know that (obviously). cool! maybe the States will actually see a G3 Prime...
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i did not know that (obviously). cool! maybe the States will actually see a G3 Prime...
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Yeah, I've read rumours it will be launching worldwide. Who knows.

[Q] Should I get the LG G3?

Hi guys! I'm in a bit of a dilemma here with choosing between the LG G3 or the Nexus 5. I actually owned a Nexus 5 already but dropped it making it unusable but aside from it breaking and the 2 hr SOT battery life, the Nexus 5 was already amazing to me. The LG G3 on the other hand is obviously a beast in hardware and it looks a lot sexier but I'm just worried that I might not get the software updates I deserve on the LG G3. I'm sure Android L will hit the G3 but as always, having a manufacturer in between you and Google in terms of updates can just make things complicated. I'm just wondering if the extra $200 (That's the difference of getting one here right now in the Philippines) is worth it for the G3.
I also want to know if there are any common issues or defects I should be looking out for because I got a 2nd hand G2 after breaking my Nexus 5 and it was great except that it was heating up so easily (from just browsing and texting even) and the battery life wouldn't get me more than 3 hrs SOT so I'm kind of hesitant in getting a non-Nexus device right now. So now I'm selling my G2 and I'm in a toss up between getting a new Nexus 5 or adding some cash to get the LG G3. Hoping you G3 owners could shed some light and help me decide.
Thanks!!
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Hi guys! I'm in a bit of a dilemma here with choosing between the LG G3 or the Nexus 5. I actually owned a Nexus 5 already but dropped it making it unusable but aside from it breaking and the 2 hr SOT battery life, the Nexus 5 was already amazing to me. The LG G3 on the other hand is obviously a beast in hardware and it looks a lot sexier but I'm just worried that I might not get the software updates I deserve on the LG G3. I'm sure Android L will hit the G3 but as always, having a manufacturer in between you and Google in terms of updates can just make things complicated. I'm just wondering if the extra $200 (That's the difference of getting one here right now in the Philippines) is worth it for the G3.
I also want to know if there are any common issues or defects I should be looking out for because I got a 2nd hand G2 after breaking my Nexus 5 and it was great except that it was heating up so easily (from just browsing and texting even) and the battery life wouldn't get me more than 3 hrs SOT so I'm kind of hesitant in getting a non-Nexus device right now. So now I'm selling my G2 and I'm in a toss up between getting a new Nexus 5 or adding some cash to get the LG G3. Hoping you G3 owners could shed some light and help me decide.
Thanks!!
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If the most important thing to you is to get Android updates ASAP, then a Nexus is your best option. The Moto-X (2013) got them almost as fast as the Nexus, so the new Moto-X (2014) probably will, too. But once the sale to Lenovo is completed, who knows if that will slow things down.
Any carrier branded phone will take longer to get updates. Including the G3. I think what the G3 offers over the Nexus makes the wait worthwhile, but not everyone will feel the same way.
I was in the same dilemma, and didn't know which one to get. I figured the Nexus 5 was getting a little out dated and the camera was much better on the G3. I have T-Mobile so I ended up getting the G3 becuase the bootloader was unlocked and the G3 had better hardware and design. I can't wait until a steady AOSP ROM is available. CM 11 is in Alpha stage in the G3 as of now.
Hei
So you guy´s think lg is going to unlock bootloaders as they said?
I´m very much in a dilemma between g3 and note 4...on note 4 there´s gonna be tons of custom roms etc. but not so sure about g3 tho?
But if cm11 is on alpha stage, it´s a very god start, everybody can live with cm11, aosp not needed that bad then!
What would you guy´s choose?
spoonymoon said:
Hei
So you guy´s think lg is going to unlock bootloaders as they said?
I´m very much in a dilemma between g3 and note 4...on note 4 there´s gonna be tons of custom roms etc. but not so sure about g3 tho?
But if cm11 is on alpha stage, it´s a very god start, everybody can live with cm11, aosp not needed that bad then!
What would you guy´s choose?
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I returned my LG G3 the day the Note 4 was announced.
+ on the LG G3: form factor, rear buttons, max screen to size ratio, camera
- on the LG G3: display, display, display. Coming from a line of Samsung phones, the LG G3 display is dim and colors are underwhelming
+- i never had any trouble with lag, fast enough for me.
I think G3 is a new experience....its so smooth I am so happy with it ,.
About battery:at first time it still gor 9-12 hours , but know is 19- 22 hours ....?.
I thinks you should get it
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I think G3 is a new experience....its so smooth I am so happy with it ,
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Get it. Great phone, Display really is something else. Batterys not all that bad just not the leader in the market. Good UI. Not touchwiz crap. Get it haha
Well..I had to decide, too.
The LG3 has a fantastic display but has some issues.
Some people aren't able to make the audio output working in their cars, like me.
Additionally, the LG is a bit laggy, but there are workarounds available and very good working.
The features are stunning, battery is good and the material is fantastic.
I owned a Galaxy Note 2 and experienced that the G3 is close to perfection.
It is like getting a car.
A Volkswagen Golf is nice, but a Lamborghini is nicer.
=> If you aren't able to buy the LG G3, go for the Nexus 5.
In my opinion you have to buy the G3..
I test it yesterday , and the battery from100% to 18 % about 30 h ?.....indeed .....maybe no one will belive that? .....but it's truth?.......well .....with my special Using.
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Are you going to keep your G4?

Having previously owned the G2 and G3, I was looking forward to the G4, however personally the camera is the only reason why I stick with it. Everything else seems like a downgrade from the G3, especially in the looks and feel. I'm glad we have root and Xposed which helps greatly, but going from the G2 to the G3 showed a large decline in dev support, and seeing as how it's been several months since release and we still have no custom ROMs makes it seem like there is going to be very little dev support going forward, even if we eventually get custom ROMs.
I don't remember wanting a new phone so quickly the last 2 years, but I've been anxiously awaiting the new phones this fall to see if there is something else that I'd like more. I'm leaning towards either the Moto X Pure or new Nexus.
Is anyone else disappointed enough in either the phone or dev support that they are looking to replace their G4 earlier than usual?
For most people the G4 is one heck of a phone, but for those of us who hang out here, no development = no fun.
I do like the G4 for the most part. It has it's issues though. Particularly the Verizon one more so from all I've read.
I mainly am bothered by the touchscreen issues. So many missed taps or swipes registering as taps instead and opening things I meant to just swipe across or whatever. Little bit of lag but it's workable.
Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless. The only thing that really stopped me from buying the S6 edge was the piddly battery and it not being changeable. Now that the S6 edge + is out and they've beefed up the battery, in hindsight if it was released at the same time I would have bought that instead because I did like the S4 for it's time.
That's the tech world for you though, you buy something new that's the best that day and something (arguably) better comes out right around the corner.
Every point I was going to make has been covered.
The Samsung development overshadows LG development, 2 to 1.
Definitely will be a consideration on the next purchase.
Take note LG, we wont be fooled again.
I was going to sell my G4 now, but not really excited about anything out there. Probably waiting for the new Motorola X Pure. Checked selling prices on swappa and I will already lose $100 or more if I sell now. Maybe I shouldn't wait..
I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
If I wasn't trying to save money, I would consider the MXP. That said, even though there isn't a thriving development community for it, the G4 works pretty well for my needs since root and Xposed are available for it and haven't been giving me any issues.
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I already got the galaxy s6 edge+ and have the moto x pure arriving soon. The development in this and the main G4 section bores me, so i recently listed my G4 on Swappa. Time will tell if i list my Samsung, but I should at least be good with the moto for a while!
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I remember reading that the Note 5 and I assume S6 Edge + are not able to be unlocked/rooted on Verizon and AT&T, as Samsung has incorporated that into Knox that the phones will no longer work if modified (or something along those lines).
I miss the days when pretty much all phones, especially flagships, had tons of dev support and were rooted quickly. Seems like as time goes on pretty much only Nexus and unlocked global phones get any support.
Bailed for Nexus 6...couldn't take not having roms....... my wife is happy with it.
Made the exact same decision. I don't miss that phone at all. Nexus 6 may be older but it still is a kick a** phone
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I may regret this decision, but I decided to preorder the iPhone 6s lol
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So far love the G4, but it's only been a week, not noticing any issues thus far. Coming from a bad experience with a Sony Z3V and Verizon, who finally agreed to give me a new phone and I picked the G4. My biggest concern was the battery but I'm getting 2 days with moderate use.
Yes, for now.
In general the phone is pretty good I'm just disappointed that there is no unlocked boot-loader and custom recovery as yet for the VS986. I hope it becomes available in the near future.
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Coming to it from the Galaxy S4 it was definitely an upgrade regardless.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
Pretty unhappy with my G4, even after rooting and trying several fixes for existing issues. The battery life is poor at best, the touch screen misses and issues are awful and on top of that, general lag persists throughout the day. Overall, I WANT to like the phone. I like the camera, the shape, etc. I really think we need the bootloader unlocked to have users fix these issues that LG and VZW cannot. I'm stuck on the edge plan, so I guess I'm waiting.
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I have a Galaxy S4 and trying to decide between the S6 and G4. What has me most considering the G4 over the S6 is the lack of removable battery and expandable memory on the S6. Reviews I have seen mostly rate the S6 higher as far as specs. But I can live with a slightly slower performing phone if it has other features more important to me. I don't care what material the phone is made of because I always put them in cases to protect them. You say the G4 is definitely an upgrade. What about the G4 in your opinion make it better then the S4? Also that screen issue you were referring to, is that typical of the G4 or an issue with some owners? I would appreciate feedback from any other former S4 owners. Thanks.
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Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
But, coming from the S4 back in June my contract happened to be up for upgrade on the exact release date of the G4, I would have been totally content to stick with the Galaxy line had they not gotten away from the removable battery and SD card support in the S6, and the battery that is in the S6 really is pretty tiny. That was the deciding factor for me buying the G4 much like you're concerned with. Other than those things the S6/S6 edge would have been perfect to me. I decided to try something new and went with the G4 on the basis they had the removable battery and SD card slot (and the changeable backs as a bonus).
Naturally with there being two years between my S4 and the G4, the G4 is faster and smoother, has a better display, better camera. That's just advancements in technology at work. Down the line we'll look at the same specs as today's flagship phones as minor leagues.
Read around here and just about any phone forums, you'll see the same things echoed to varying degrees:
S6: Piddly battery life, no SD card, no removable battery, great looking screen, fast, arguably best camera, great build with the glass/metal, quick charge/wireless charge built in
G4: Bigger swappable battery, great (larger) screen, fast but some models lag depending on carrier, arguably best camera, nice changeable backs, wireless charge not built in, some models with touch screen response issues
Like I said you'll read the same things everywhere and just have to decide what works best for you. If you're the type that prefers to swap the battery for a quick boost to 100%, don't buy the S6 obviously. If you like the idea of using wireless charging, don't buy the G4 obviously. If you prefer a smaller screen go with the S6, if you want big go G4 (Or the newer Note 5 or S6 edge + of course), if you want to try a new button scheme go G4 (I do like the rear buttons) or if you like traditional side buttons go Samsung. It's a tough call really, you get what I mean, either way it's been years since the S4 so no matter what you're going to get a better phone due to the advancements both companies have made. Compared to the S4 both the S6 and G4 will fly through processing, have better displays, have better cameras, and be more efficient. You just have to decide which features are more important to you.
Now, I know you didn't mention the newer S6 edge + or Note 5 but they've been released since the G4 was released and in hindsight if they'd been released all at the same time I'd have chosen one of them over the G4 and am probably switching over to one of them soon as I can. As I said earlier the only reason I went with the G4 over the original S6 was the tiny battery in the S6, and in the newer two phones Samsung has beefed up that department to match the G4 at 3000mah. So that said, I'm probably looking to get back into a Samsung, because when it was in it's prime, I really did love my S4.
My main gripe with the G4 is the touch screen response, which like I said if you read around you will see it is pretty common and no known fix has been brought to light. It seems pretty hit or miss but it is really frustrating.
Hopefully I helped and answered some of your questions. If not feel free to let me know.
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Well to be honest as I write this I'm working on getting myself into the S6 edge + or Note 5 now that they've come out. More on that later.
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Cwey I very much appreciate your detailed and very helpful reply. After reading it this morning I decided to get the S6. I picked one up a 64gb version a couple of hours ago and my wife got a iPhone 6S (she loves apples ). I figure with 64gb's SD card memory expansion is no big deal. I had to give up my unlimited data because I'm doing the 24 month no-contract phone payment service. I really don't use a lot of data anyway. I was on the old service plan paying for minutes and text. I'm actually paying about $10 a month less with unlimited calls and text. I looked into other phones also like the soon to be relesed Nexus 5X but the specs don't seem to be that great. The S6 Edge+ and Note 5 are too big for my taste. The larger size of the G4 is also a negative for me. Also I have the S6 with the OE2 firmware which can be rooted. The updated OF1 cannot be rooted at this time. I just have to be careful not to allow the firmware update to go through. Thanks again.
I got a Nexus 6 as well. Great phone even though it is old now. Also got a One M9 and sent it off to Java Card S-Off'ed. Also a good phone with custom roms. I miss the G4 camera a bit but nothing else.
I'll be looking at the Nexus 5X or the Moto X Pure as a replacement for the G4
I'm not sure how long i will keep it, because the digital products update so fast!

Does it make sense to get LG G7 ThinQ today?

Hello folks,
Son dropped my phone and broke the screen. It is not worth spending money to fix the screen. I am looking for a newish phone but in the current job climate, I do not want to spend more than $150. While going through Swappa listings, I found a few LG G7 Thin Q listed below $150.
I was wondering what is the scenario on this board with regards to rooting and ROM availability for this device. I have been going through various threads but I am not clear about it. So does it make sense to spend $150 on getting Lg G7 ThinQ or I should be looking at other devices like Pixel 2 or something?
Thanks in advance.
I have the same question, I can buy a lg g7 thinq or a mi 8 at the same price and idk what could be the best.
i feel like g7 gives you the best bang for your buck from what i see
I can tell u the g7 is worth, but be sure u buy the 710Em version (eur/global) that is the version that will give u all his power. Other versions live t-mobile are hard soft blocked, u need to do some tricks to get 1% of all the dev there are here. Trust me u will no get the same quality on other devices at same price or on the same SOC, lg did his work hard with this mobile. Im not a fanbpy, but every day i discover new things about my phone that makes it wonderful.
Hi,
I bought the G7+ dual sim EAW version with 6gb ram and 128gb storage only had it 4 weeks and i dropped it resulting in the black screen of death. The cost to replace screen was £70 which i fixed myself. Apart from this it is a very good phone for the specs it has. Very good screen with boost for out in the sun. I can watch stuff without screwing up my eyes with ease. As for battery life its ok but i bought my self the battery case that gives it a total if more than 2 days use using both internal and external battery.
Well worth considering if buying another phone.
Definitely Worth Buying
I bought a mint used one from Swappa - it's fast enough for my purpose, battery is certainly good for my all day usage. Excellent screen, fits my hand well for one hand use (and I have small hands). Great reception on T-Mobile.
Unless you're going to root it you can disable most of the crap that you do not want and even on the T-Mobile model I have no issue with RAM. Compared to the specs for the G8, it wouldn't make sense to upgrade.
Only issue is that the morons from LG will never provide timely updates - no wonder LG loses money.
I second @docfreed. The LG G7 is a great phone overall. You won't find many other rootable phones that also have an SD slot and headphone jack. If the battery was easily replaceable, it'd be darn near perfect. My wife and I have had our rooted G7s for a year or two, and they've performed admirably. My charge port is giving out, so I'm actually looking around at other options, and I keep coming back to the G7. You just get a lot of bang for the buck.
Let me know if you have any questions.

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