So I've browsed through the Lineage rom thread to gather some information on it, my new Z Play is sitting at home waiting for me. I've been flashing Cyanogenmod/Lineage since the Nexus One days, and I haven't ever used a phone with stock firmware.
But the times, they are a-changing! It's getting harder and harder to have a rooted/customized phone and justifying the benefits gained while losing a lot of functionality with DRM & copyright nonsense. Motorola does a great job with their stock firmware too, so I'm actually considering skipping Lineage and custom roms this time. So some questions:
I use Lineage on my Moto X 2014, but I had to keep root off for it to show as "Certified" in the app store. Not so much for stuff like Android Pay that I can go without, but for Netflix. While you can sideload the Netflix apk, you can't use the download option, which is big for me because I travel a lot for business. So a rom that will show up "Certified" is a big one for me. Is this the case with Lineage? Or any stock-based rom?
If it's not, I know stuff like Magisk exists & I can figure out how to get it set up, but what worries me is how much time I'll have to spend constantly updating and trying to stay one step ahead of Google every time they patch or fix the exploits used by that stuff. How long can you usually go with a Magisk fix? And how long after it quits working are updates released?
Any other insight you folks might have specific to the Moto Z Play would be helpful, hoping to contribute as best I can here, thanks!
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Good evening All,
I have the Pro 8.4 and I must say that I'm loving it so far. That said, I have also used CyanogenMod before and would love to put it on this tab. I do have a concern however. Whereas I have never had to buy productivity apps before, I have for this tab as I'll be using it for business as well as pleasure. I have heard around the interwebs of the Play store acting wonky. Any truth to this?
I'd hate to have to give up on having Cyanogen on this tab because I can't use apps that I need and paid for. Any advise would be appreciated.
By the way, I have rooted and put CM on other devices before. This is just the first time I have ever needed to put any type of GApp on it afterwards.
* I should say: putting the Play store on a custom rom....
Celtish said:
Good evening All,
I have the Pro 8.4 and I must say that I'm loving it so far. That said, I have also used CyanogenMod before and would love to put it on this tab. I do have a concern however. Whereas I have never had to buy productivity apps before, I have for this tab as I'll be using it for business as well as pleasure. I have heard around the interwebs of the Play store acting wonky. Any truth to this?
I'd hate to have to give up on having Cyanogen on this tab because I can't use apps that I need and paid for. Any advise would be appreciated.
By the way, I have rooted and put CM on other devices before. This is just the first time I have ever needed to put any type of GApp on it afterwards.
* I should say: putting the Play store on a custom rom....
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You have had to install GApps for CM on all devices for a long time (since CM7 maybe?) . GApps are the Google proprietary code that you are only allowed to redistribute if you have a contractual agreement with Google and pass CTS. Only the 1+1 CM11s fits into that category, all other CM builds do not and therefore they do not distribute the proprietary code as they are not legally entitled to.
I have no problems with the Play Store.
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Thanks for the response Crpalmer. I had known that you would have to put it on seperately. I should have been more clear prior. I had never put them back on as I didn't need the functionality. I now need it however and just wanted to make are that my purchases would carry over. Afain, thanks for the response.
So as the title say, i have my "old" g3 d855, since i got a S7 Edge its just collecting dust atm. Is there anything fun i can do wihth it? Special rom or anything? Can i have any use of it?
All suggestions are welcomed, except im not gonna smash it or anything. Best regards,
I got my dad's old G3 to mess around with as it didn't boot to system at all (I already had a Nexus 6P and Xperia Z2, so I didn't even really need a new phone). What I did first was to get it to work and then decided to root it, flash a recovery and flash a new ROM.
So I'd suggest flashing a new ROM on it and messing around with the settings or mods. Just make it look and feel perfect for you even though it's not really your daily driver. That's at least what I consider somewhat fun to do.
(Of course you could also super brick the device just for fun and then you'd really have a great time trying to get it to work again)
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I got my dad's old G3 to mess around with as it didn't boot to system at all (I already had a Nexus 6P and Xperia Z2, so I didn't even really need a new phone). What I did first was to get it to work and then decided to root it, flash a recovery and flash a new ROM.
So I'd suggest flashing a new ROM on it and messing around with the settings or mods. Just make it look and feel perfect for you even though it's not really your daily driver. That's at least what I consider somewhat fun to do.
(Of course you could also super brick the device just for fun and then you'd really have a great time trying to get it to work again)
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If he decides to brick it then he can also test the new stuff I´m cooking (I´m testing it myself ofc before anything) :good:
TheSanteriAT said:
I got my dad's old G3 to mess around with as it didn't boot to system at all (I already had a Nexus 6P and Xperia Z2, so I didn't even really need a new phone). What I did first was to get it to work and then decided to root it, flash a recovery and flash a new ROM.
So I'd suggest flashing a new ROM on it and messing around with the settings or mods. Just make it look and feel perfect for you even though it's not really your daily driver. That's at least what I consider somewhat fun to do.
(Of course you could also super brick the device just for fun and then you'd really have a great time trying to get it to work again)
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Thank you i guess i'll just mess around a bit with it
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If he decides to brick it then he can also test the new stuff I´m cooking (I´m testing it myself ofc before anything) :good:
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What kind of stuff are you "cooking"?
New autorec without seperate downloads needed
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You could use it for a voice automation phone. That is what I use my old G2 for as its LCD is damaged and almost unusable. You should set up tasker + AutoInput + AutoVoice with Google Now everywhere enabled and keep the phone always plugged in so that it will pick up your voice even when the screen is off. I use this to play Pandora stations, for example, I have a "Main" station and it is setup to interpret that when I say "Ok Google, Pandora Main," it will open Pandora and play my main station. If I wanted it to stream that music to somewhere in my house, I will say, "Ok Google, Airmusic room," and it'll stream my music to my AirPlay server on my PC in my room.
Obviously, you have to setup everything and ensure it is all working with AutoInput so that it'll "press" the right menus and such , but it is a great way to get into the Voice Automation like Star Trek.
Hey,
I'm 100% new to doing any sort of custom stuff with my Android devices, so please forgive my dumb questions.
I've known for a while now that my Nexus 7 was vulnerable since it stopped receiving security updates in August 2016, but I wasn't terribly concerned at the time since I use it so casually. With this recent WPA2 news, though, I'm kinda anxious.
Is there any way at all to make my device secure? Google doesn't give a **** so I know there's no chance in hell it gets an official patch, so I assume I have to go with a custom ROM, but I have no idea where to start.
If I went with a custom version, will I still be able to use the apps I own? Will I still be able to use stuff like Chrome and Drive as well? Also, if I'm using a custom ROM, is there actually any guarantee that it is actually secure? How do I ensure it receives security updates in an unofficial setting?
tl;dr version: Just hoping for a way to use my Android device mostly in the same way I already do, but with actual security updates going forward, since Google are a-holes.
Be aware that some apps will refuse to run on a rooted device. You also won't be able to use Google Pay.
You can mitigate the security issue somewhat by using a VPN service; all your communications will be encrypted, so a MITM attack should fail unless they can also decrypt your communications stream.
I use PrivateInternetAccess myself; one of their app's features is the ability to bypass VPN for selected apps, so for example I can run Pokemon Go (which won't run on VPN) and avoid running video streams through VPN (I don't really care if they can see me watching Hill Street Blues on Hulu and I'd rather avoid the performance hit). YMMV and I'd recommend doing your own research, and VPN isn't a magic bullet. But it makes the WPA2 problem less urgent without a lot of work and without having to root your device.
Mind you, I'm saying all this while perusing the forums to discover what custom ROMs are available for my Nexus 7, as I'm considering rooting it.
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To address a different part of your question, aside from the "some things won't run rooted" issue I already mentioned, the rest of your apps should run fine. You'll want to install some version of Open GApps to get Google functionality. That's probably covered in the instructions for the custom ROM.
Two favorites are LineageOS, which has a lot of neat features added, and AOSP, which is the bare Google Android experience with neither bells nor whistles.
Keep in mind that if you don't like what you get, you can always change. So if LineageOS isn't for you, you can try AOSP, or something else if you find it. I'm assuming that somebody has the base ROM available; it should even be possible to put the stock ROM back and unroot the device. Know that I'm speaking from inexperience, sorta... I haven't done this with a Nexus yet, but I've done it lots of times with a Galaxy S4. So I'm not really an authority but I figured I could get you started in the right direction, at least. Just remember to back up everything on your device before you start.
Really, really be sure you back up before you start.
I'm having this conundrum as well. I currently use MM on my Nexus 7 2013 due to better idle time and more reliable WiFi. It seems like there is no way to fix this vulnerability without moving to Nougat.
Lineage OS is a good rom to start with. It receives security updates OTA, and it doesn't come with root binaries, so most apps should work.
anzianzi said:
Lineage OS is a good rom to start with. It receives security updates OTA, and it doesn't come with root binaries, so most apps should work.
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I have an old mediatek based redme note4, so very much due an upgrade. The cameras on this look pretty decent and good enough for my youtube vid work...
But I have one issue i want to address...
On my old Note4 using MiUi ive noticed that A LOT of system programs dial home to aliexpress servers... I assume to Xiaomi controlled servers... Ive noticed this quite regularly when doing certain tasks like using Chrome or email, or installing apps...
Now I want to get this phone, I kinda need to know that there will be some roms going around that will strip all this crap out. Annoyingly though I like MiUI as an interface. I just dont like this phone dialing home as much as it is.
So got the few questions.
As its snapdragon, i realise in all likely hood there will be custom roms. What will my likely options be? Lineage? Will there likely be a MiUi with the nastiness stripped?
And I also, when I root the phone to do all this is there anyway to mask the root? I use banking apps that wont run if the phones been rooted...
Anyway I realise its early day. Just thought I should ask. I might be getting the phone around december or january...
We can expect that there would be xiaomi eu rom support which is debloated miui with additional languages. (Also with their shi**y roboto font)
Custom roms may not be your favor cuz they usually give you same boring aosp experience whatever you install.
Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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Magisk has a "hide" feature that allows to have root and still use Bank apps.
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This typically doesn't work anymore, or it works with very high efforts for a short period.
Mine is arriving today and I will be unlocking the bootloader ASAP.
Xiaomi usually let you unlock the bootloader although you have to wait and the custom ROM scene for past Xiaomi devices has been good (I've had both a Mi 5 and Mi 9 and can testify to this).
So long as someone builds for this device, you'll probably end up with a fair selection of ROMs to choose from including customised / debloated versions of MIUI which aren't too bad either
I want a private rom or custom rom
I have some function or features to add
google free rom , or no google app in it.
will pay 1k usd ,who can customize it contact me. skype:sudhir.jatrana
There's only 2 models of the zfold3 that can be rooted the rest are locked with no ability to root period because Samsung locked it down. There's a guide in this section of the forum for rooting that has both models listed and if yours isn't one of those you are **** out of luck
Also, Google makes the Android ROM base. So are you wanting to install a ROM that lacks the Google apps? There is a thread that shows how to remove system apps, but you might remove things that are required for Android to run.
I can understand the idea you have, but you may not be in luck for a working result.
it's definitely possible
I'm also looking for a way to get privacy on my Z Fold 3
Been pretty successfull so far with getting suckerberg out with modded insta and whatsapp, but Google is deep in the system and I desperetely need a rom without it
Well you can remove gapps with adb app control app on windows and using debugging settings. But you'd lose out on getting security updates from Google. And no telling how much it would break Samsung stuff. No clue how it would turn out. But it wouldn't be a custom ROM. It would be a severely stripped down Samsung stock ROM. If you try it and don't like it, just wipe it and start over. Keep us in the loop and let us know how it works.
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I want a private rom or custom rom
I have some function or features to add
google free rom , or no google app in it.
will pay 1k usd ,who can customize it contact me. skype:sudhir.jatrana
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Just use your 1000 dollars, and buy a pixel 6 pro and install graphene os, that's about as good as your going to get, unless you decide to build your own room based on lineage os, but with a phone this expensive, your not gonna find custom ROMs. Or look into gsi's and have a play with those, pretty much your only option or choice im afraid, unless you want a crippled stock Samsung ROM, which would be pointless
Honestly man, if you are wanting to De-Google your phone and be able to do a lot of things like this, the LAST thing you should have done is go with such a new phone. Especially if you know ANYTHING about Android and Rooting. You should know that rooting is not always a thing and in the case of new phones, it can take a while to get it to where you want/need. Like YEARS.
What you SHOULD have done is gone with an older, more customizable phone that has a TON of ROM's and support in this regard.
In short, RESEARCH. Buying a phone that you want and then going out to the modding community and making a request like this is going to get you... well... pretty much what you're getting...
Good luck, but I can promise you that you are not going to get what you want 100%, but, I hope that the suggestions offered here get you close to what you want, but you're not going to get what you want with a Z Fold 3.